Not even gonna pretend to understand the emotional roller coaster Nick & his family must have endured.
He lost a chunk of his senior year of HS.
He's now (mostly) lost his final year of college.
Someday, these will be but footnotes in an extraordinary career. But at the moment, they kinda suck.
Wish nothing but the best for the smaller fella.
"It's always scotch-thirty on my island."
Yeah, this really sucks for him and for us as fans.
I was so looking forward - as we all were - to Nick wrecking the rest of the Big 10 and the playoffs, should we make them.
To see arguably the best defensive player in all of college football play at the very top of his game... wouldda been an amazing thing to see.
Just very, very disappointed for him, and - selfishly - for us.
Go get 'em, Nick! Heal up and have a great career in the NFL.
"Be a first rate version of yourself, not a second rate version of someone else." - Judy Garland
i hope to live long enough to see the next generation of Bosa's playing for Ohio State.
Sounds just like a father. A really good one! There is no father that would ever risk their kid's health. At least and not feel like he was doing his job.
Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!
I completely agree. I think the clarification from Mr. Bosa helps us all accept this a little bit more (again, not that we have to like it). Some of us thought that it was a less severe injury with a 5-6 week recovery, but it was a little more intense than that. Also, I think if John Bosa's quotes are put out there in a strategic way, it is something that can only help us in the future. The trust he had and the faith he had in the coaches is something all parents want.
Every time I let my kid go on the soccer field, basketball court, football field, etc. I am risking his health. Its the nature of athletic competition.
I think most people consider "risk" to mean a healthy percentage / probability for something seriously bad to happen. I know that is not the definition, but that is certainly the interpretation. Also, the risk you are mentioning is very minor for a major injury, and not very good for a minor injury. The risk Bosa would be making is tens of millions of dollars. If I had the virtual certainty of that kind of money, anything over a 1% chance of losing some or all of it would be far too great of a risk. NFL careers are short lived. Need to make as much as you can in order to provide for yourself and your family for 40+ years of life after football.
We are talking about risk to health. The risk to health (long term affects) is easily as great to a kid as it is to a college athlete).
Everyone has said the type of injury he has, while painful and not a quick recovery is not one that has long term implications. Again though, as you mention, the decision is entirely about money and not future health.
Perfect recruiting advertisement:
"I’ve trusted both of my sons to that group of coaches, and I can’t thank them enough. I love Coach Meyer and Coach Johnson’s been a mentor to both my sons, and it’s been an amazing run. "
I believe him when he says it was difficult.
AKA the Horseshoe, the Shoe, and the House That Harley Built
Yep. I hope Zach Harrison’s parents read this in the Dispatch tomorrow.
Fields of Dreams
I'm sure that family is paying close attention to this situation.
Thanks for the additional information Dan. Wishing Little Bear all the best!
Good luck with your recovery and NFL journey, Nick. Can't wait to cheer for you on Sundays.
Once a Buckeye always a Buckeye.
Wishing him all the best .....but........next man up....
Saban on a cart eating cold pizza
Nick had the decision to either stay in school or go to rehab to make millions. The camera showing him on the Ohio State bench said it all. I could tell something was not right by his body language and facial expression.
Exactly, Tress!! I literally had the exact thought. He looked distant and almost, like, guilty as though he knew he was going to be bowing out.
Best of luck Nick. You made the great state of Ohio proud.
edit: initially misread a quote. It sounds like they feel he would have to push it a little harder than they're comfortable with in order to be in game shape in time for the playoff.
I'm still curious about the timing (it is not any of my business, but I am curious). Is there something about the rehab that he cannot get done while staying enrolled in case he is ready? What is gained by pulling the plug now?
He is rehabbing in Philly where his surgeon is located. There is no need to stay enrolled as he isn't going to graduate this year and he isn't going to be on campus to attend class.
Even if Nick was ready to play a game or two after his rehab, why risk another injury just for that? Getting fully healthy and ready for the NFL draft is the smartest thing for him to do, although I had always hoped that he would return. Maybe if he could have been ready by the MSU game the thought process may have been different. That we will probably never know.
Totally forgot about the student part of student athlete in my grief last night - that's sensible. You cannot balance rehab in Philly and still fulfill student duties well enough to stay eligible, at least not reasonably.
The loss of his play on the field and the love that most of us have for his play is the hardest part to reconcile with the person that has made the decision to get healthy and move along in life. I don't know the man and I would hope that if he were one of my own, I would want what is best for him. With that being said, I wish Nick nothing but the best and I thank the entire Bosa family for being part of my Buckeye fandom for the past several years.
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. Urban Frank Meyer
It's a multi-generational financial business decision, and I fully support and agree with Nick Bosa and his Dad. It's the right decision from a rational standpoint, and really THE standpoint of a father for his son. When they "stripped away the emotion," it was the only decision to make. It's sad, but necessary under the circumstances.
Forget when the surgery was, but I seem to recall it was soon after the 9/15 injury, I think that Monday. So that would put Nick after 12 weeks following 9/18 (a Tuesday) at 12/11 to actually begin football practice and prep for a NY6 bowl or CFP semi-final in 3 weeks from that date. Would he even be at 100% for that (possibly only) game? Not worth the $20 million or plus-ish guaranteed risk as a top 5 pick.
“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman
As a fan, I feel cheated. I Have thoroughly enjoyed watching the Bosa Bros at tOSU. through the first three games i thought sbear was better than bbear and was ecstatic to watch him embarrass the B1G.
As a person I wish him a speedy recovery and would have done exactly the same in his shoes.
This is bullshit. Some people tried to keep me out of my final game in high school. The doctors were like "you need to sit out. You have ebola."
But I played. You should have seen the look on my brothers' and coaches' faces while I scored the state championship winning touchdown with blood coming out of my eyes.
"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM
What the ...
Kanga, you're drunk. Go sleep it off. That game-winning TD will still be there tomorrow morning, Tiger.
I hadn’t realized your first sentence was a topic sentence.
Never joke about Ebola. Nothing ever funny about it.
We use italics when expressing sarcasm on this site.
Ah, but the italics make it too obvious and not as fun IMO.
I found this comment strangely funny.
"In America, anyone can become president. That's the problem." George Carlin
That was the idea. People took it much too serious lol
I understand fully the Bosas' decision that Nick play no more this season. However, he is a captain. We were told during fall camp that he was a leader, a stabilizing force for the underclassmen. How can he just abandon the team, especially as the defense seems in flux?
I guess $$ is the measuring cup of character in the Bosa family. I understand that too.
OSU 2019 defense - The Twelfth Man
Are you for real? He wouldn't be cleared to play until December. "The recovery time for that injury is about 12 weeks, putting his return date "well into December.""
^^^Here is the worst of the Ohio State fandom.
It is you, Brazilian Buckeye. I had to log in to respond to this. I am actually embarrassed you call yourself a Buckeye. I do not have a history of hammering people, but I stand here with a sledge hammer to try to bludgeon the stupidity out of you...if indeed you aren’t simply a troll trying to stick your face where it shouldn’t be (I have few other places that your face might find appropriate lodging, but it isn’t here).
I noticed a few other insensitive and stupid takes, but to slight the young man’s character like that, Sir...I really do want to use some military connections I have, track you down, and kick you square between the tiny nuts you might have.
You are an idiot.
“Young Bosa, God speed your healing...THANK YOU for the time we were blessed to see you play. We will be watching with pride as you continue your journey!”
A grateful Buckeye Nation
I like cookies.
I merely feel he need not leave Columbus. Bosa could get the best rehabbing right here. A captain should hang with his brothers. Ask Dremont Jones how he feels about this.
What!?! You told me you were staying next year https://t.co/gHDYJQbkD5
— Dre'Mont Jones (@TheOfficial_80) October 16, 2018
Seems like he is OK with it. Nick Bosa's reply is first in the list of Dre'Mont's tweet. It is almost as if all of the players are close to each other and understand things far better than emotional "fans" do.
You are entitled to your opinion but you don't speak for the rest of us.
You are an idiot.
Please refrain from name calling. It's a commenting policy violation, and it's not a good look.
I really do want to use some military connections I have, track you down, and kick you square between the tiny nuts you might have.
honestly, how is this any better than what you've accused the OP of?
"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott
I'm thankful we got all the details. I knew it was a situation where the injury was severe and he wasn't going to be able to return, but the initial reports were a little misleading. It should have read season ending injury. I know the Bosa family and Nick "love" OSU and he would come back if it made any sense. I hope he returns like so many of our other great stars and represents us all in the NFL.
This is nonsense. This kid is injury prone. He needs to prove he can play and not get injured. Does he (or daddy) think it’s going to be easier in the NFL? It’s also nice to know, Nick can state his own point of view.
What's wrong with you?
It's ridiculous for sure. The trolls here the last couple months are off the chain.
Some crazy-stupid hot takes on this. Shameful and embarrassing. WTH?
I don't think he is injury prone. But he tried playing through a minor injury and turned it into a major one. Trying to satisfy fan expectations can lead to bad decisions. This time he is making a better decision in my opinion.
Thank you Bosa family for trusting your son's to our Buckeye team. Bless you and much success in the future. #proudbuckeye
He is the Archie Manning of Defensive Ends. Just sayjng.
^^ interesting, indeed
I've never seen a football player make a tackle with a smile on his face. - W. W. Hayes
As an Ohio State fan, I'm devastated. As a college football fan, I'm devastated. Everybody is counting us out at this point. Nobody is giving us a chance. But the Buckeye brotherhood goes far beyond our best player dropping out. The Buckeye brotherhood goes far beyond what the ESPN so called college football "experts" are saying. It goes far beyond the Urban Meyer suspension. Right now we are going through a fire. But we never, ever, except defeat. This brotherhood won't just survive the fire, but we will come out of it stronger than ever. May this be the day we turn our entire season around. May this be the day, that we turn our entire franchise around. May this be the day, that people realize what it means to be a Buckeye.
Well shucks..,heal up and go get em
So good to hear addtl info from Papa Bear: that Nick was playing thru' groin pain, and that the surgeon noted muscle fraying, so the injury did not happen at just one time.
So very sorry Little Bear was seriously injured, and so disappointed to not see him again with a silver helmet.
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
Any chance that there’s another Bosa brother we just don’t know about yet...???
In all seriousness, even if he was going to be 100% by early November, I never thought it was worth the risk, and never thought he was returning to play. The photos of him at practice at the WHAC got my hopes up, but hearing now that he wouldn’t be ready until December leaves only one logical, responsible answer, although I would have liked to have seen him remain part of the program and support the #Brotherhood.
"Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed, is more important than any other one thing." - Abraham Lincoln
Nick, we will miss you on the field, but enjoyed the heck out of your career. Heal fully and skip the Combine. You'll still be a top 5 pick and won't go through the grind that so many rookies have in the rookie NFL season. Would love to have you be defensive rookie of the year- May as well keep to strong going, bro!
Sounds like the old man - won.
It was fun watching Nick as a Buckeye, but I wont be watching him play in the NFL, because I can't stand the NFL!
Good luck NICK!
I'll work for helmet stickers!
Oh it was hard for him? Poor guy....
He used Ohio State. He took more than he was willing to give and got what he came for and said see ya. I don’t give a shit about him. Hope he tanks in the pros, and on a positive note...I’m glad that he is gone after finding out his intentions towards Ohio State because someone else can stay on the field who wants to be here while this clown continues his “All About Me” tour.
I’ll leave this till it grays out to oblivion...
FUCK NICK BOSA!!!! GET DRAFTED BY THE LIONS!
Worst. Take. Yet.
This does not even deserve to stay grayed out.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
Seriously,……Keys! Then I guess you could say I used Ohio State as well. However, 105,000 academicians did not pay 7 times a year to observe me in my music education classes. I came to OSU with the idea of earning a degree, knowing it would provide opportunities for future employment in the field of teaching. While there, I was thankful to be part of TBDBITL. Now, it would be crazy to think that football fans actually came on Saturdays to watch me march and play, right? Just like I came to Ohio State for future employment opportunities, I believe young men who play football, realize by coming to Columbus, they too will have future employment opportunities. Ohio State has a great placement program in education. Because I was able to interview for a job on campus, and was accepted by a local school district, I was put in a position to be a successful teacher for 33 years. I will say I did not find too many music teaching jobs that paid millions of dollars for me to instill learning in their youngsters. Ohio State has proven it has a great placement program in the NFL.
Does the NFL require their player employees to have college degrees in order for them to represent their teams? Not that I know of. It seems to me, BlackKeys, if you have been a person who has paid money to attend Buckeye games, that maybe you, too, have used Ohio State. We as fans, sit comfortably in our stadium seats, while players bust their butts on the field for US. Are you a graduate of TOSU, or just a regular fan, who receives a “high” when the Buckeyes win? Or, are you a UM fan, who has infiltrated this site, disgusted with your “poor” up north Detroit NFL team?
It would have been foolish for Nick deciding not to leave. He is placing himself in a position to be successful in future employment. Again, be cognizant that teachers MUST have degrees, giving them opportunities to earn, hopefully $35K per year, their first years out. NFL players DO NOT need degrees, and yet they have opportunities to make MILLIONS. If a school district had come to me, offering millions, after I had only completed 2 years of classes with “A’s,” do you think I would have turned them down? And, by the way, I am glad OSU will always be there for Nick, should he desire to complete his academic degree in the future, after his playing days are over.
Thank you Bosa family for allowing your sons to play for the Buckeyes. I have truly enjoyed watching the athleticism of your kids. Quite amazing! In an age when many people “coast along” in their paid occupations, underutilizing their God given abilities, it was awesome to see Joey and Nick play their hardest on EVERY down for me as a fan. I appreciated them sacrificing their bodies FOR FREE, though I am sure you, ....Keys, will remind me of their scholarship finances. I will miss watching Nick play for the Buckeyes. May Nick be as successful in his career, because of THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY, as I was in mine.
O-H- Bosa family!
Go Bucks-BEAT THE BOILERS!
JI row end 78
I don’t blame Bosa for one second for this decision. But, if it is a hard decision, he has a year of eligibility left. Just sayin’...
EDIT: Actualky 2 because he could take a redshirt this year.
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
Wouldn't THAT be awesome.
Ahh.... we can dream, right?
In today's culture it is not surprising. This is just the beginning unless something happens to change the course of the culture. What I'm going to put below will not be liked by many but again, it is because of the culture today.
money + self > honour + team
In the near future, any prospect who is slated to be a first round draft pick will pull out of school. Watch and see.
On the other hand, people may send their condolences for whatever ill-fortune comes your way, but that doesn't mean they will really care if your life is essentially over before your twenty-first birthday. This is his one shot at making it to the pros.
Never place a bet on anything that can talk.
We have a real ASSHAT here who's going through and DOWNVOTING all these comments of sympathy and sorrow and good wishes. WTF?!
Four words for ya: Get The F Out!
I was just thinking the same thing. There is no way this could be the same guy. My lord who would have the time to login to just downvote every “take”? That would take one sick puppy.
"There are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad" - the Curse of Woody Hayes
Unfortunately based on the comments I've seen there are plenty of sick puppies who I think would do that.
"I am El Guapo...the handsome one."
Clearly, "Pure Michigan."
I don't think so. They are celebrating this whole thing because their chances got better.
According to MGOBlog, it would appear TTUN's best victory under Harbaugh occurred when Iowa beat us last year.
There is a lesson to be learned here hidden in the disappointment of it all. That lesson is that when it comes to muscular pain you should listen to your body. He played through the pain for three games and practices until he completely tore them. Now if he had been willing to sit out those first three or four games of the season then most likely he would have fully recovered and could have played the second half of the season. I've made this mistake and I bet most guys have. But I firmly believe that the whole notion of playing through pain and "No Pain, No Gain" is completely off target.
As for Nick Bosa's decision I totally agree with it. Even if his body is ready to start competing sometime in December he should still ease into things. It will take probably a month after being fully fit just to rebuild those muscles in his core that he has to lay off of right now. And trying to play your first games back in something like a playoff games means that most likely he is going to go too hard and re-injure himself.
I don't think his decision is only about money. I think it is also about common sense. It simply isn't a good idea to try to play in college play offs or bowl games if you aren't fully fit.
Next man up.
We were walking behind him and his group after the Minnesota game when my brother spotted him. I took a photo and joked with my brother that I should tell him that we pray that he can get back asap. Clearly did not as he was wearing a hoodie trying to avoid folks and a scene. Ironic that it would be the last time we would see him on campus.
Despite how well the Bosa's train to be in tip-top shape, I have to believe his brother's current injury and slow recovery made a difficult decision that much easier. Wish him all the luck in the world. Since he left the university, will he still get his ring when we win the National Championship this year?
I think he forfeits that.
Right......I always cry when 30 mil is waived my face.
"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa
He does have 2 years of eligibility left.....can’t see any players usurping his draft prospect this year or next or whenever he leaves. So why now? Stay w the team, take the redshirt and heal up properly and come back next year. He doesn’t need to take care of his family like most other drafted players.
Team + Honor + glory VS top 5 draft pick $$$ now?
those are the facts, aren’t they? As a fan, i expect him to choose the former. This is a homer buckeye fan site, right?
Nothing but love for all of the Bosa's. Appreciate their contribution to OSU and hope they kill it in the NFL
Time will heal Nick and our broken hearts. Best wishes and thanks for the memories...
You win with people.
Rather than bemoan him leaving, we should choose to enjoy the time we had Nick Bosa as a buckeye. What a force on the field. I hope he gets back to completely being 100% and lights up the NFL.
Hopefully he makes it back to Columbus for pro day and puts on a show!
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
I still don't understand why you need to withdraw from school to rehab an injury. Why would being in school would prevent a proper rehab or "cost him millions"? I understand not pushing yourself to return from an injury and potentially make it worse. But, why not stay with the team, continue to support your teammates, and finish your year in college academically?
Strength equipment is expensive & guarantees you nothing. A strong will is free & will give you everything you need.
This is simple—the reason he is withdrawing is the same reason he isn’t seriously considering coming back—his decision to come to school was prinarily about becoming a pro, not earning a degree. He isn’t alone in this and I don’t begrudge him this decision, but that is why.
I just wish the haters and doubters could hear it from Nick's mouth how much he loves Ohio State, maybe then they'd stop questioning his motives. Some people act like this must have been an easy decision, I happen to think it was devastating for him and not how he wanted to go out at all. Hearing his Dad speak about it really hit me in the feels. Best of Luck Nick....just don't go to the Steelers.
"I don't want to be around average, why be around average!" -UFM
I can't speak for others. I have no doubt it was a difficult decision and he has mixed emotions about it. However, I don't see any reason why he can't rehab his injury while still being a student at OSU and being a part of his team without withdrawing from school. He doesn't have to push himself to return before he's ready, or even at all for that matter, to remain on the team and support his teammates while doing his rehab. I'm sure it was a difficult decision, but it's still a selfish one. Staying in school should not cost him a thing, but would aid in his personal development and allow him to support his team and maintain his role as a team captain.
I agree with your points about his at least sticking around for the team, I hadn't really thought of that too much but I'm sure there are reasons, be it medical treatment, rehab facilities he wants to use, etc...I just don't know....I do agree that as a captain, if there was a way he could at least be there for his guys he should do that. You make some valid points for sure.
What would have been the downside of staying in school?
Sorry, there's much of this "it was a tough decision" story that doesn't add up.
All the best to Nick. It is the right decision and we fans should be grateful for having watched him play while we had the chance. I love how flippant some are about him putting his career and future in mind when making this decision - he stepping away removes a distraction and allows others to step up. Even if he made it back for the bowl game, he would be rusty and probably not as effective as the guys who have played the other eleven games while he rehabs. This decision is in the best interest for the Buckeyes as well as Nick.
I'm sure this was a very difficult decision for all involved. I even thought when Nick went down vs TCU, that this very well may be the last time we see him in an OSU uni.
That being said, to say that fans are "emotional" or taking this too personal is just another excuse to say our fans are, well...fanatics. Isn't that what being a "fan" is all about (not to take pot-shots at Nick, but to make statements of opinion shouldn't make people get so bent out of shape...it's just someone's opinion.)?
However I do see, now, that the family and Nick had a very difficult decision. I'm sure it wasn't easy to leave the rest of his teammates and coaches. As Meyer said, he was hopeful, but this came at no surprise. Ditto!
It is time!!!!!
In the Buckeye Homer world, Nick had a choice to not end his Buckeye career... but in the real world, there is no freakin way you don't make the same decision! It truly sucks for the program and the fans, but anybody with a working brain cannot disagree with the decision!!!
DAMN it, though... I really wanted to see him play during The Game and crushing the QB into little bitty wolverine pieces!!!
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Chase Young reporting for duty sir!!
Somehow, someway, I think the Bosa’s -Nick, John and Joey - didn’t give a moment’s attention to the teammates, coaches and University that may have deserved a little “payback” in terms of presence in the locker room, practice field and sidelines.
Besides the talent and hard work, Nick needed the coaching, facilities and stage tOSU provided to reach the point of consideration for the first overall pick. In what is now completely apparent, it’s a team sport and this move leaves his teammates in the dust.
North until you smell it, west until you step in it
Here is the best way for me to sum up my opinion. IF this injury happens to Bosa as a frosh or soph and we are undefeated and ranked #2 in the country, what would he be doing the the next 4-6 weeks? The answer is that he would be doing everything he possibly could in order to try and and recover so that he could play again if we were to make the playoffs. Now, I have no idea whether he would be able to recover to the point of being able to do that, but he would have been 100% committed to trying to do it. The fact that he wasn't 100% committed to giving it a try along with leaving his team mates in the middle of the season (plenty of time to rehab and prepare for the draft after the season) is what I feel shows lack of commitment to his team.
Fuck him. Loyalty to a team means nothing to the clown.