Once a Buckeye, NOT always a Buckeye.
Damn. I am truly disappointed in him.
My favorite team? Whoever is playing TTUN.
Why? He’s a lock for top 5 draft pick. Literally can’t do anything to help his worth at the next level.
The only thing he could do is get hurt again and drop his draft stock so I’m fine with his preparing for his future. Good for him.
How do you throw away a chance to be a national champion? He's the missing piece to make this team championship caliber.
Stop abandoning the running backs.
An amateur title might not mean as much as top 3 draft position and getting a head start on your career?
if you're from a desolate background and NEED to earn that big paycheck. this is not meant to say that just because you're not from a desolate background, you don't have the right earn that big paycheck, etc...but you don't NEED to. So once you strip out the money factor, then it becomes national champion, pride, glory, legacy at Ohio State VS top 10 draft pick....seems kinda obvious which one is more rewarding and fulfilling....taking the money factor out of the equation that is....
Yeah, there is a chance that OSU will earn an opportunity to compete for a national championship, but there is also chance that the remaining games on the schedule will result in a meaningless bowl game. Bosa made an informed decision on the the highest and best use of his skills: healing and preparing for the NFL draft.
Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72
So Haskins should leave too!
Do you realize how you sound?
People have to talk about something just to keep their voice boxes in working order so they'll have good voice boxes in case there's ever anything really meaningful to say. - Kurt Vonnegut
This is the relative point. Haskins has likely already played himself into a first round pick. How would anyone feel if he dropped out of school tomorrow and went to the west coast to train for the draft?
Haskins doesn't have the type of injury that if you come back too soon and don't let it heal, or re-injure it, will never leave your crotch (excuse the pun) for as long as you play
If you die before you die, then you won't die when you die.
Any player slotted in the top 15 should scratch the season and get combine ready in fear of injury???? Top prospect $ will always be there (Jaylon Smith).
The ugly truth is often downvoted
The Rose Bowl is NOT a meaningless bowl game.
What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.
In the playoff era, it pretty much is. I know traditionalists hate to admit it, but what meaning does any game have that doesn't have an impact on either A) who gets into the playoff or B) who wins the playoff? The correct answer is nothing. No meaning, whatsoever. Bowl games are now basically glorified scrimmages.
Fundraisers., merch sales, TV revenue and still helps with recruiting too. For the player could a platform to showcase skills and elevate status.
You win with people.
Ya but he wouldnt be coming back for the playoff either lol
if its not a playoff game, then yes it is
I'm just going to put this idea out there, and y'all can agree or disagree. But really, does a decent chance of possibly playing for a title which earns you zero dollars outweigh the possibility of injuring oneself further, and thereby costing oneself potentially millions in future earnings? I say no.
I'm sure these kids all want to play for national titles, but it's not as important to them as we as fans would like it to be. I mean, it's still an amateur sport to them. As diehard fans, we think it's like the most important thing ever, but it's just not. We have to accept that.
Your right! Let's look out for Haskins, and tell him go get ready. Tate, you're up!
I agree and although their situations are not the same, I wonder how much money Tyler Eifert's injuries over the past few years have cost him. Football players more than anyone else are likely going to be over the hill by the time their in their late twenties. I wish Bosa would have come back, but I can't blame him for taking the time off.
Never place a bet on anything that can talk.
Or the ND Linebacker (Smith? did he win Butkus?) in bowl game against tOSU blew out knee....projected top 1st rounder if I recall. Went to Dallas what 3rd round maybe? He'll never make that money up.
Picked 34th. Still got paid.
You, my friend, have NEVER taken a class in statistics.
does a decent chance of possibly playing for a title which earns you zero dollars outweigh the possibility of injuring oneself further, and thereby costing oneself potentially millions in future earnings?
I would say yes, but it's a complicated decision that involves the severity of his injury, how healthy he can get back to this season, and his personal priorities. But, assuming he's able to come back healthy I think the chance to win a national title is greater than the chance to get injured and/or miss out on millions of future earnings. My hunch is years from now looking back at his career he may wish he would have finished out the year with his teammates.
Strength equipment is expensive & guarantees you nothing. A strong will is free & will give you everything you need.
With all due respect, I would disagree that Buckeye fans to accept Bosa's decision, that is, without being critical.
To me, it's undeniable that from Bosa's perspective, he made a choice out of self-interest--it's a me-first decision, which is fine, but then, why should the same choice be denied to fans?
I can't speak for anybody else, but as far as my interests go, I couldn't give a crap about Bosa's pro career. Frankly, if the NFL went away tomorrow, I'd be fine.
I'm interested in college football and the Buckeyes playing well. That's my self-interest, and I doubt I'm alone, so...
Hey, good luck to Bosa. Seriously. I can walk and chew gum at the same time, but there's no special reason for me to place his self-interested choice above my own interests as a fan, or else that of Buckeye Nation.
To that end, personally, I think every fan here has a right to express any level of disappointment they want at Bosa for grabbing the dollars, just as Bosa has every right to make the choice he made.
It may be unpopular to say this, but it's a matter of fact: He's grabbing the money as his priority above the possibility of contributing to his team and possibly winning a national championship.
Again, that's great for him. But if someone was to say, "to Hell with Bosa and his money grab," well... why should I say such a person is jerk for his or her self interest but Bosa isn't?
I might add, if Bosa really wants to be a pro, as well as handle what comes along with the job, he better get used to this kind of criticism, because, I dunno about you, but I've heard these crazy rumors that NFL fans often care more about their team winning than whether or not a player gets paid big money.
How dare they!!!
Never mind that the whole reason these guys make big money in the first place is exactly because fans care about heir teams winning.
The bottom line: Players have their priorities, and fans have theirs, and sometimes the interests of the two don't coincide (and not everyone puts dollars ahead of everything else--in fact, fans have to PAY dollars whereas players get paid).
As an interesting side note, some NFL scouts are probably taking note, and the irony is that Bosa's decision might see him making less money in the long run, since they just might notice that Bosa...
1) is a bit undersized for his position, and
2) like it or not, he'll face legit criticism that he's a bit injury prone, since, as a matter of absolute fact (vs. idle criticism) injuries have knocked him out of 2 of his past 4 seasons.
3) Not only hasn't Bosa ever earned and/or completed a full season as a starter, or for that matter, even a third of a season (!!!)--check the record--he's been able to avoid playing against top competition for the most part, and when he has faced tough teams, it's largely been as a part-time specialist. As a matter of fact, TCU is the SOLE exception.
4) Bosa's injury may not be permanent, but it's a matter of fact the abdominal tears typically take 3-6 weeks to heal after surgery... for NORMAL people(!) as opposed to allegedly elite athletes. The 12 week timeframe for Bosa is nothing short of amazing, especially since even Bosa's father admitted that the surgery "went fantastic" not to mention that he was handled by one of the nations top sports specialists in this area. This begs a serious question for any NLF scout putting together a profile a Bosa and his college career: Is Bosa really that slow of a healer, or, is he simply that greedy?
Then there's the capper of all concerns....
4) When given the chance to put his team first, as well as the possibility of winning a championship, he put money first.
Smart GMs just might notice such things, just as surely as risk-taking GMS will surely notice that he has the best pas rushing technique in college football. I fully expect that they'll shell out the dollars for him, but don't be shocked if Bosa's stock drops slightly more than anticipated.
And a reputation will follow him.
You can bet the media will be watching.
Unfortunately, Bosa might have been able to answer all of the above criticisms by showcasing his talent against top teams to close out the 2018 season, but he didn't want to take the risk.
Again. Good luck. Seriously. But that's now on his permanent record. His college career is over and his profile is now a matter of history. That being the case...
Let's call this what it is: Bosa quit the team to make millions. Or do you prefer "left" the team?
The former has a salty flavor, while the other is a bit too sweet. But I guess it depends on our taste buds, and why should I like the taste of this decision?
Most people would say that Bosa would be a fool for making any other decision than what he's doing, and they might be right, assuming that Bosa making big money is their first priority, but I say that anybody who describes it any differently than him either leaving or quitting the team for the sake of money is just sugar-coating the decision, which is anybody's prerogative to do.
We might have no choice to accept the decision he's made... but not without criticism.
per my previous comments, Bosa's been fortunate enough that he doesn't NEED the money, like most of his peers who come from a much more disadvantaged background and do NEED the money. so, taking the money aside, is he trying to insure his top-10 draft status? that just seems so insignificant, unless it is just about the money....if you're someone who doesn't need the money, but focuses purely on the money? then I think that's called....greed. again, nothing wrong with that. But as a fan, there is something wrong with that.
Chicago Connection, I have a question for you. Lets say you have a really cool house. I'm your best friend and I really, really love hanging out at your house. Someone offers to buy your house and you'll make $30 million on the deal. Acting out of self-interest (as every sensible, rational human should), you sell the house and take the money. Now, acting out of self interest, I'm super pissed at you for taking all that money and selling YOUR house because I really, really liked hanging out there. Who is the jerk in that scenario?
I think people are not exactly weighing things correctly (shocking development in an internet forum, I know):
First, let me say I understand Nick's decision and I am fine with it. He made a business and career move and he has every right.
2nd, the notion however of everything else is meaningless I think is wrong, both because those saying that are valuing money as the only thing and two ignoring other possible money.
On meaning: You have to ask yourself, when you are 80 and looking back on your life, which will you value more, the maybe marginally more money you made in the NFL or the glory of battle at the highest collegiate level with your brothers, winning gold pants (though sounds like he would not have made that game), playing in the playoffs?
That's an individual decision, though Nick is in a different situation than some others. He comes from a rich family and his brother is already making bank. Even if the worst happens he'd be ok financially (but yeah, a lot less). For a poor kid, very different. On the other hand a poor kid might not have this option and might need to stay at the school for medicine and rehab and such.
The other factor is the value of being a Buckeye legend. It has value. Joey earned his. There are so many big plays in big games and finishing out the run. He'll be welcomed back at OSU forever and there can be financial value in that.
Now, again, probably doesn't apply as much to the Bosa family as they will probably never live in Ohio unless one plays for Browns or Bengals. But you never know. That's not to say that Nick is dead to Buckeye fans, I doubt he is. But I doubt anyone would have the same passion towards him as Joey. But imagine if Nick had sacked Tua to lock a Naty. Far fetched? Somewhat, but you never know and far from crazy.
That's what he gives up. It is a trade off. Don't blame the kid, but NFL draft position vs. meaningless is not the right measuring stick.
He has a chance to make generational money. Championship memories will last his life time (maybe ours too)but his money could last his kids-kids-kids lifetime.
schools can take out multi-million dollar ins policies in the event a player gets hurt. So let's just stop with the injury career ending talk. IMO this is a very selfish decision by Nick.
You WIN with people.
It is a very selfish decision, it is also a decision that I am okay.
As someone who has chosen money over coworkers and a company that I really enjoyed working with recently(obviously not the same level of money), I am inclined to believe that I would take the money and run just as Nick is doing.
Yes. This is exactly it. I totally agree. You have to think about your family. Being a top pick in the draft will set you and your family up to a much higher degree than any insurance policy.
given his background, I don't think his kids or great grand kids would be out on the streets....
Totally agree maniac its a no-brainer, he was a pro playing on a college team.
i think this might be a good thing in a way - this could really turn out to be a huge motivator to our defense, listening to the media come out and say they are nothing without Bosa. Our defense its not playing up to their actual talent level for sure, and the “oh shit, no bosa” might actually get them to say “wait a minute, im Dre’Mont Jones, im Chase Young, im cooper, and were all badass - we’re still comng for you”. Honestly got a good feeling about this
As an Ohio State fan, I'm devastated. As a college football fan, I'm devastated. Everybody is counting us out at this point. Nobody is giving us a chance. But the Buckeye brotherhood goes far beyond our best player dropping out. The Buckeye brotherhood goes far beyond what the ESPN so called college football "experts" are saying. It goes far beyond the Urban Meyer suspension. Right now we are going through a fire. But we never, ever, except defeat. This brotherhood won't just survive the fire, but we will come out of it stronger than ever. May this be the day we turn our entire season around. May this be the day, that we turn our entire franchise around. May this be the day, that people realize what it means to be a Buckeye.
Now would be a good time to place a bet in vegas
For a program that promotes “brotherhood” non stop, doesn’t this feel like a selfish move?
Not really. The brotherhood only goes so far, his potential future opportunity to earn is his priority now.
To me part of their brotherhood is getting to the NFL. All of these scholarship players come to Ohio State with the ultimate goal of getting drafted or making a NFL roster. So sharing that same goal is part of the brotherhood....
His brothers understand the amount of money we're talking about and I bet 99.99% would make the same call now a days.
It's completely selfish and he has earned the right to be. I agree with his decision 100%.
Buckeye born and bred, Buckeye till I'm dead
Even if he gets hurt again, he’s not really going to hurt his draft stock. These injuries heal well in time. If he has a catastrophic injury, we should look at Jaylen Smith, who I think was still drafted in the first or second round, and is a very rich young man. My question is, is this injury worse or longer term than expected, or is he bailing on the team to focus on money? Most people think that money is the most important thing in life, so there will be little second guessing, but I am personally disappointed with either answer to that question.
Jaylen Smith, 2015 Butkus Award winner, Dallas Cowboys 2016 2nd round pick 34. Gruesome injury, still not the player he used to be. Projected 1st rounder. Will never make up that money.
Though I wish him all the best and thank him for all he has done, I frown on kids leaving early for dollars, no matter who it is. To me it is a slap in the face to the school that put so much effort and faith in that said person. Just shows that in today the all mighty dollar trumps all. So what it tells me is they are in football for one and only one reason, to get paid. That just feels so wrong that the young people of today choose money, with no telling how long it will last, over school sprit and loyalty, and pride and the joy of the sport and to the school and team at witch they were playing for. When I played, I played for the love of the sport, not the chance to make a buck. Sry to some this old fashioned ideal seems silly, But I was one who has always thought and still do today, that there are more important things in life than the all mighty dollar. again I am sure bthere will be people out there that disagree , but I am sorry, that is what I believe in.
When you played, was there a realistic chance of being the #1 overall pick in the NFL, or any NFL pick for that matter? Most people who play do so for pride and joy, because most people have no future in the sport beyond that. But when talking about a guy like Bosa, it's different. Think of it in these terms. Most people go to college to assist in finding their career. Sure, there's the education, college experience, etc., but at the end of the day, it's about finding the best job possible, ie, making money. Most people, if given the choice, would bypass college if they could settle into their career job without having to go to college first. Bosa now essentially is faced with that choice. He has the ability to be fully healthy, and assume millions of dollars in his career choice, or risk losing that. Believe me, I would love nothing more than Bosa finishing what he started first, but I also am not Bosa or a member of his family, faced with knowing that he already has done enough to achieve what he needs to be a top 5 pick, and he can either try to guarantee that, or risk that. This is a tough choice, and I understand why he made the decision he did.
Ofcorse not, you are missing the point. I never said that. What I said was I played for the love of the sport. I know what it is like to be part of a team. I know what team means. The kids of today, all they want is money. They want paid. No future beyond that, ? what? You think life stops when you no longer play? Look, I have a life, a family, home... For the most part I can not complain. The times are changing. I have thought and still do that the almighty dollar doesn't trump all. What happens when that money runs out. There are many that went on to play, get paid then waist it all away on useless crap and drugs among other things. And when it all said and done they have nothing. The education they get goes beyond that. Gives t hem a shot in life if things do not work out. Now I understand why he came to that decision. And I have said I wish him well, I just believe he let his team down. He could still have all that stuff and be a part of the team to support them when they need it. Him and the many others out there that choose to walk away from the team just to make buck. Well to me that just seems so wrong. I am sorry that I disagree with his choice and that my thoughts are different from yours. But that is what I think and believe in.
It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.
I'm sure he will be very upset that Mr. Cptnvideo is disappointed in him.
The whole "no longer a REAL Buckeye" thing was stupid as hell when people said it about Denzel Ward, and it's stupid as hell now. This is the right decision for Nick Bosa, just as it was for Denzel Ward.
When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.
Ward and the 2017 team were playing for absolutely nothing when Ward chose to sit. Bosa has now quit 2.5 months prior to a playoff game and a shot at the NC on a soft tissue injury. HUGE difference and a bitch move to not at the very least wait and see how/when it heals.
Maybe he knows more about how it is healing than we do and he doesn't have any shot at returning anyway? Hard to tell
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- Jim Tressle
He went to the doctor in Philly recently. Perhaps he was told it's not healing as quickly as was expected?
Must have missed the memo that said HE needed to check with YOU in matters that pertains to HIS future. Get off your damn high horse and get a life.
Bucks Fan since 1970
i cant believe how many people have upvoted. The shortsighted and selfish nature of fans never ceases to amaze.
Did you mean down-voted? If not, which comments are you referring to? Just curious.
I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.
I cant believe how many people upvoted the comment calling this a bitch move. That is insane and the comment should be downvoted into oblivion
Ok, that's what I thought, but wanted to make sure before I threw some unwarranted disagreement your way. Totally agree with you, DC.
Do you remember everyone piling on me when I said he wasn't coming back when it first happened. There's a lot of childish people on here. A LOT
Right--some folks need this.
You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!
I called this after the TCU game when it was announced he had surgery.
I honestly thought he would be back, but I always said I'd never criticize him if he chose not to come back. None of us really know how serious it was, and how it's healing. Hell, we really don't know exactly what the injury even was. But for a grown ass man to say Bosa is making a bitch move here is beyond stupid.
Did you just post a I told you so post?
1. He doesn't "owe" us anything. If his teammates want to be angry with him, that's their right, but I have a feeling they will support him 100%.
2. For all that's been said about his progress with walking and handling light activity already, that is a long ways from ready for major college football sort of healed.
3. It's easy for all of us to imagine that since there is a little to no chance of re-injury with it, that he should be fine with returning. But we're not the ones playing college ball while sitting on a golden ticket and then being reminded of how quickly a person can be sidelined and suddenly shut down from activity. For a person to say, "The next time something like this (a major injury) happens to me, I should at least be getting paid," is totally acceptable to me.
"Woody would have wanted it that way"
Yeah you would think he would want to rehab at OSU with all the staff and resources. Plus if things go well he could graduate to drills, contact and maybe even see the field - even if it is just a long shot.
His family is worth millions of dollars. He doesn't need the free team doctors at OSU.
I'd bet he goes to camp out at one of those weird pre-combine training complexes out in Arizona or wherever.
He doesn't need the free team doctors at OSU.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the university still obligated to cover treatment? The injury was sustained as a student athlete for the university in a game.
Maybe, but the fact that he's been seeing a guy in Philly tells me he's not too concerned with getting OSU to cover the bill.
OSU probably sought out that particular specialist for him. They've sent guys to Dr. James Andrews frequently in the past.
Maybe not if he voluntarily surrenders his scholarship and moves on of his own accord. I'm honestly not sure.
You're not getting it, he is officially declared for the draft, he's DONE.
and a bitch move
I bet you $1000 that you wouldn’t have the testicular fortitude to say that to his face.
Ohio, the greatest state in the Union!
Lol. Well if there's a heathy settlement check involved after 2 hits. Nick hitting me, me hitting the ground. Like everyone back in day used to say...sheeeeiiit I'd go a round with Iron Mike for that money. He breath on me I'm out and getting paid. Lol. /s
My guess is you wouldn't be telling Nick this is bitch move in person.
Thank the Maker that I was born in Ohio, cradle of coaches, US Presidents, confederate-stomping Generals, and home of The Ohio State University Football Buckeyes- 2014 UNDISPUTED National Champions!
Why is he gonna risk money hitting someone? He's afraid to risk it hitting people legally on a football field.
No way, they're not REAL Buckeyes and don't understand what it means to Bleed Scarlet and Grey!!!1!
-Guy at computer who never even attended OSU
But I'm 76 years old and remember listening to games on the radio way back when, surely I'm a REAL Buckeye and the judge of all the other buckeyes. Can I get an OH?!!?
IO! Would it be ok if Haskins left to get ready for the draft too? I'm sure his teams/fans/coaches/school would understand!
If Haskins was a top 3 nfl talent and mocked possible #1 then sure if he wanted to declare now for the draft then I’d support him still.
But he’s not on the nick bosa level and he still needs to develop and make tape for the scouts and evaluators.
BS! Haskins may be the first QB drafted and a sure top 10 pick... maybe even 1st pick!
Where have you seen those mock drafts?
What an A-hole statement! You sir really need to re-evaluate your value system. You are truly disappointed in him?....Wow
Trust me. I am truly more disappointed in your comment.
Bitterly disappointed??? ;)
I'm not..............There is about a 16 million dollar difference between 2018's #1 pick and the #10 pick. Lets just so happen to say he gets hurt again and falls to #10 or lower after being projected as #1 and a top 5 lock. Are you going to cut him a check for 16 mil? I know OSU won't. These colleges make god awful amounts of $$$ off these kids, let them get some too.
That's why they have insurance policies
The insurance policy the Smith Kid from Notre dame had didn't come close to covering the amount he lost. Also it doesn't cover the amount he prob lost to the length of his career due to that injury
They are typically capped and usually the $1m-$3m range.
Nice will always be a great Buckeye to me. Will represent the Scarlet & Gray well in the NFL
Heal up Nick and dominate at the next level
The flaw in this logic is it only looks at the situation in a box. Instead of comparing the first contract between two picks compare the money they make over their playing careers. The difference is probably a lot less. Even if hypothetically Bosa cost himself money by playing and worse case scenario happens he gets hurt and dropped in the draft he would still have the rest of his career to get healthy, play well, and get a better contract later in his career.
Also, is there a point of diminishing returns regarding evaluating the value of money over experiences? Does an extra $16 million dollars make a difference to someone that has $150 million in their account? Is $16 million dollars more important than the experience of winning a NC with your teammates when you have tens (or even hundreds) of millions of dollars already? I just don't think it's not as simple as saying coming back could cost him $16 million.
I don't want to downvote this because I want people to see homerism at it's finest.
Go get paid, Nick. And congrats on a short, but sweet college experience.
At last, Kerry had cracked open his first Red Bull with an impatient delight. And the rest, as they say, was history.
hey man i'm sorry a kid chose securing millions of dollars over the interest of some old loser on a message board
this must be a really rough day for you
I'm sure he won't be able to sleep for a while, knowing that you're disappointed...but he can make a nice, soft pillow out of $100 bills from his signing bonus, and put this behind him.
I don't think we know enough to jump to conclusions. I am sure he would have come back if he could have done it without significant risk. You do not become as good as he is unless you love the game. IMO
Just keep punching!
Wow, I am sure this is just an overreaction fueled by disappointment, but you need to be a better fan than this.
The purpose of going to college is to learn a skill and get paid. Mr. Bosa has done this, and we should be grateful for whatever he has given us to date, considering the risk players take.
This is absolutely the correct business decision. I guess many can't possibly wrap their head around the fact that this is about a career and that millions of millions of dollars are on the line.
Please don't be this kind of fan. Good luck Nick, and though I too wish I could see more of you in an OSU uniform, thank you for what you have given and make the school proud.
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
"You're welcome for the house I built."
Now all we need is for half of Bama's roster to make the same decision and we have a shot at this thing!
I've called this numerous times and was referred to by many names. Think about it, what does he need to return for? He has nothing to prove, he's a 1st rounder. Why risk injury when you know you're going to be playing on Sunday's next fall?
You mean getting the chance to lace it up 1 last time with your boys against Sparty in East Lansing wouldn’t be enough to entice you into pressing your rehab regimen?
No. No it would not.
It looks and sounds good on instagram but a the end of the day Nick is a business man, I'm sure he's learned much from his brother.
That's great and all, but if there was a huge market to watch businessmen in action, people would tailgate outside of corporate headquarters and pay hundreds of dollars scalping tickets to take tours of office buildings
If someone said they were going to give you $40mm in april with the only condition being you do not got hurt in any serious way between now and then, you 100% would NOT play football, no matter what you think of your boys. get real
I'd do it for $400. Of course, I can barely walk, much less play football. ;)
Not with potentially generational wealth staring me in the face. No way. Go get yours, Nick - you've earned it. Plus, we "fans" have no way of knowing what the doctor said.
Yep, the reality is more than any other major sport, football takes away as much as it gives to many guys-- meaning non-guaranteed contracts, 100% injury rate and most of all, long term health consequences post-career are why this will continue to happen more and more.
I didn't call it, but I did say that might be the way the family decided to go (keeping in mind that Joey has had some issues staying healthy, and that this isn't Nick's first big injury), and the response was usually something like, "Nah, Nick is different. He's all Buckeye," yadda yadda.
Selfishly I'm upset about it, but it's his life. And frankly, no one really knows how the injury is coming along. Maybe he can't be 100 percent the rest of the season, and if he tries to play at less than 100 percent and hurts his draft stock in the process, the gratefulness of Buckeye Nation isn't going to amount to much.
What I think is kind of sad is that college football depends to some extent on fans believing that the players have the same emotional attachment to the school that they do. It's obvious that's not the case anymore, if it ever was. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's definitely how it is now.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
Good points Chuck.
Yes some here are disappointed, and they are free to own that opinion. But the Bosa family is a uniquely pro football family. They have vetted info coming from Joey’s agent as well as his uncles. And... the NCAA is the de facto farm system for the NFL. So we can be pissed about this or be glad about the fact that our team churns our first round talent year after year.
His dad played in NFL.
John Wilfred Bosa (born January 10, 1964) is a former professional American football defensive end who played three seasons in the National Football League (NFL) for the Miami Dolphins.
NFL Draft: 1987 / Round: 1 / Pick: 16 Out of Boston College
So he probably knows exactly which teams want him. Bye bye. He and Dwayne can go into business together next year.
I think it’s more about him playing at less than 100 and putting that on tape. Would seem he could rehab and keep open the possibility of playing in bowl season though. That’s two more months away.
I didn't call it. I flat said it the first day. This has been known from the first day by Urban. Believe what you want. They called me names too. And frankly I was disappointed. I've spent three months in Marine Corp boot camp. You guys need to work on your game. Weak, very weak
My initial thought is: can’t he stay on the team while rehabbing and prepping for the NFL draft? By leaving now, if we win a Natty (or at least another bowl game) he won’t be on the team anymore and thus get no hardware or experience of being with the team. If he ends up not playing anyway, he hasn’t risked injury.
"Thousands of tired, nerve-shaken, over-civilized people are beginning to find out that going to the mountains is going home; that wilderness is a necessity..." -John Muir
We get it, you told us so...again on this same thread. Slow Clap.
btw I agree.
This is the last I am gonna say on this. But, coming back or not depends on 2 things:
1. Medical information of which we do not have access to
2. What is important to you. How much a college championship means to a sure-fire first round pick probably varies based on each individual's priorities. What is clear to me is that some fans on here can only prioritize what is important to THEM. I say this all the time, but the bottom 15% of this fanbase is absolutely an embarrassment to the rest of us.
I am guessing that maybe there was information regarding how this was healing that sealed the deal, because the other way to play it would be to see how the next month plays out then come back if the injury allows. But even with that, I really have to wonder what kind of game shape he would be in having had no real football activity for almost 2 months. All in all, as I said above, no way I can blame his for this decision--he has put in the work and deserves to cash in on it.
Just guessing here, i bet doctor said he isnt healed enough and wouldnt be back until close to end of season, at which point it really didnt make sense to come back.
#BrotherHood right?! It's a hard choice... personal vs team
Lot of season left and lots of team goals left to achieve...Wish he would have stuck around to help the team achieve those goals, but I get it.
This was probably LITERALLY the easiest decision he ever made.
Sigh. The dreaded anti-boom.
Should Haskins leave to get ready for the draft too? Would coaches/team/fans/school/ support him?
"Mr. Haskins? Mr. Bosa? Hi, I'm Roger Goodell, nice to meet you. Listen, I have a proposal for you. Look at the table in front of each of you. That right there, on each table, is what $100 million looks like. It's yours. All you have to do before you fill a pool with it and start swimming is to stay healthy between now and April. Completely healthy. No rolled ankles, no chipped teeth, no ingrown hairs or athlete's foot. 100% healthy. Now, you have a choice.
Option 1: train in a controlled environment that will hone your body so that it can perform for NFL teams, with proper nutrition and highly personalized and focused attention. As a bonus, you won't have to worry about classes anymore.
Option 2: As long as your grades are up, continue playing with the Buckeyes, for free, against competitive opponents who aren't at your level athletically and have been known to take cheap shots at knees, run the risk of breaking or tearing literally any part of your body, maybe sustain serious head and back injuries, all while performing in front of fans some of whom aren't above throwing snowballs stuffed with batteries at you. Oh, and remember, if any one of 32 team doctors turns up an injury, you can't have this money any more.
Any coach/team/fan/school that DOESN'T support that choice is selfish and needs to reprioritize.
so why arent half of Saban's guys taking these options?
The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes
Not surprised but bummed.
There are a lot of similarities that have been written regarding this team and the 2014 National Championship team. The loss of one of our stars for the year is another connection that can now be drawn. Would love for this to really drive the team forward and to play hungry. As we all know, the grind is less fun than the chase.
Who would have known that the Tulane game would be so ironic.... the Green Wave... goodbye. Going for the green.
Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.
Welp. There goes any chance of winning a national championship.
yeah the program is doomed.
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Not saying that at all. My thoughts are that if we had any chance of beating Bama we would need to totally disrupt Tua. I just don't see us being able to that with Chase and Cooper on the outside. We still can play for a Big ten Title. Were just not beating Bama without Bosa. Sorry.
We beat bama without Braxton and JT. Let Larry Johnson work his craft
We also had a Bosa lol
Jokes aside, we need a playmaker on defense to disrupt Alabama's offense. With Bosa out, we don't have one atm. Chase Young is great but I think his star shines brightest when Bosa is on the field...as do all of our defensive linemen.
If you go back and watch that matchup with Bama Bosa was not much of a factor in that game. Bama for the most part neutralized him. Other players on the D stepped up when they had to, that's what won us that game, that and the plays the offense made.
Do you not think one had to do with the other?
Sure it did. But to argue the current defense has no talent now that Bosa is gone is just not true. They have plenty of talent, a lot of it is just untapped. IIRC our defense in 2014 was bad at stopping the run for most of the regular season as well (remember against Indiana Tevin Coleman absolutely gashed us in that game). They turned it on when they had to in the games that mattered. We just have to hope this group can do the same. What happened with Bosa is unfortunate but it's over and done with now. The team needs to move on without him.
But to argue the current defense has no talent now that Bosa is gone is just not true.
I don't think either of us are saying anything like that. The only "bad" thing I'd say about our talent is that there isn't a talent quite like Bosa in the locker room.
What we are saying is that Bosa is an elite player and losing him hurts. His dominance was seen on film (as he absorbs double teams and plays being ran away from him) and on the stat sheet (he has more TFLs, sacks, and tackles than the rest of our defensive ends combined). You can't replace that kind of monster with one player and it certainly hurts our chances to win a national title. It doesn't mean we can't win one, but it hurts our chances.
wrt Bama, our chance of stopping their offense took a hit. Our pass rush has been so-so without him.
I would stop holding out for a 2014 performance. The defense as a whole hasn't shown that at all this year. The only unit that has shown dominance just got a little worse.
I think this is the equivalent of trying to take on Bama in 14 without Zeke.
I'd agree that the chances get worse, certainly. But look at the run that the 2014 team went on. We've got some key areas of deficiency, but we're also looking at a Bama team that's not been truly tested, so who knows if they've got exploitable flaws out there? We probably won't know that until the end of the year. Secondly, Tua keeps getting dinged up (his knee may sideline him, no?).
If we can get the run game going again, I feel better about our chances. That allows us to do a better job of controlling the clock and grinding down opposing defenses such that we're able to perform better as the game goes along.
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People need to stop thinking 2014 is just going to happen again. It was lightning in a bottle. That team had arguably the best OL in the country, the best RB, one of the best WR, a great OC, multiple first rd picks in the secondary, etc. you really look at this team and think that’s happening?
You win games on the lines. Our OL is poor in run blocking and the DL is going to be worn out by season end. Why do you think UM despite their top end D talent always wears out against OSU? They play too many snaps while for the past few years, this team hasn’t had to deal with it because of a deep and talented rotation.
I don't like it at all, but I think you're right.
"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War
Thank you for using "you're" properly. It's a lost skill on here recently.
your full of crap. /s
Playing Devil's Advocate...Did we see the "best OL, best RB, one of the best WR, great OC" at this point in the season in 2014? I don't believe we did, but things slowly began to take form and we really didn't see it until the BIG championship game.
We took a big hit that year losing 2 QBs, who at the time of their injuries seemed to be the "one" we couldn't afford to lose. I'm not saying that we are going to win everything this year, but I'm not saying we have no chance either. Just some coincidental things happening this year that look a lot like 2014. Who knows how this will affect the team moving forward? Buckle down and rally, or hang your heads with little confidence?
No--we only beat Minnesota by 7 in game 10 that year. Torches and pitchforks.
We did get it all together to make an incredible run though.
Good point. Zeke was barely known by the national media at that time. no one on the OL was picked in the 2015 draft; Joey Bosa's rep was just getting established nationally; Devin Smith was a 2nd round pick. and Evan Spencer wasn't picked till the 6th round.
You didn't look at 2014's team after 7 games and think it was happening either.
Winning a championship is lightning in a bottle. Every champion has to be lucky and good.
Unles you're Alabama 5 in 9 years. Call them the Lightig rods of CFB. i hate them but facts.
Yes and no. At least three of those they were lucky to even be there, twice because the buckeyes were unlucky enough not to. In 2011 and 2017, they didn’t even win their division. In 2012, they would have been left out if the undefeated buckeyes hadn’t been banned.
You should go watch 2014. You are misremembering what happened. All you remember, apparently, is B1G game and playoffs.
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So what if Tua gets hurt?? He's got a sprained knee currently... What if Bama loses to LSU? A million things can happen dude-- its college football
To answer your 2nd question: 2 SEC teams in playoffs, Bama wins it all.
I just don't see us being able to that with Chase and Cooper on the outside.
LOL - Chase Young was just named a mid-season 1st Team AA.
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So should we shut 'er down???
A lot of people have been bailing since Oregon State scored in the first quarter. I don't think the "heart of a champion" applies to a lot of fans.
I mean, if our O-line couldn't manhandle the Minnesota defense I didn't like their chances against Bama too much anyway.
^ This, our O-line scares the crap out of me more than anything else wrong with this team.
I'm surprised by the number of down votes.
Welp. There goes any chance of winning a national championship with Nick Bosa on the field.
FTFY, that's literally the only thing that has changed in Columbus.
Nick has been out since week 3 and tOSU Buckeyes are 7-0.
NEXT. MAN. UP.
"Defiance in Silence"
The next man up doesn't consume 50% of the other team's game planning. Bosa was good for 4-5 drive ending plays a game, and made QBs afraid. QBs aren't afraid now, they're eager.
Him coming back was the only thing that was going to substantively change our defense. I don't blame him, and I support him doing what he feels is best for his future. I love the guy, and knew it was 50-50 that he would be coming back. But was really hoping he would. I'm not disappointed in him, I'm just disappointed.
Realistically, makes us less contenders for the national title as contenders for the conference. But that's still pretty great. Still in front of us to go 13-1, or hell, maybe even somehow win it all. We get through the conference and then get a month to prep for the playoffs anything is possible. Maybe we draw a Clemson team in the semifinal who seems to be sleep-walking through an embarrassingly weak ACC at the moment.
A lot will hinge on how the defense responds, especially the defensive line. I don't know how much the team "knew" about this before now, or what their expectations were. A defense preparing and going to work with the knowledge that their statistical leader and all-american is not coming back likely has a different mindset than a defense that is stepping up and preparing and going to work without Bosa with the hope that "well, we get through the Nebraska game, and maybe he is back for the stretch run." Maybe they take this news poorly and lack focus. Or maybe the reality that the guys who have been stepping up "until he gets better" are now the guys that must lead from here on out sets something off in this defense and drives them to be more focused and disciplined and motivated.
And yeah, I don't fault him at all. Even though the injury wasn't likely to re-occur or be aggravated by a return for the final game or two, it's gotta be a wake-up call to be this close to cashing your golden ticket, having done such amazing work in conditioning and training to have your body at peak performance and strength, and still be so quickly sidelined for most of a season on one seemingly uneventful play. Who wouldn't say to themselves, "If this happens again, I want to at least be getting paid."
Well said, Dan.
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I'm not surprised.
Right there with you. I held out a fraction of hope that he would come back but I'm not surprised at all.
I really feared he would be done for season. Hadn't taken the NFL into consideration but I'm guessing if he could have come back 100% he'd have done so.
It must mean he doesn't think he can get fully healthy before the season is over and he's not going to push it. I don't blame him.
I had abdominal surgery the same week he did, and I’m not permitted to work out, lift anything more than 10 pounds, or even vacuum until October 31. Granted, Nick Bosa is much younger than me and in much better shape, but incisions in your abdominal wall can only heal so fast for anyone. (I have five of them, the surgery was one month ago tomorrow, and when I try to do too much I still have pain.) So that’s why I never thought he was coming back, and frankly even if he feels twice as good as I do, he still should take care of himself first.
Best of luck to you.
"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM
Welp. There goes the hope the D turns it up to a championship level.
I disagree. We have the talent--we just need to capitalize on it.
So far, opposing offenses are all that seem to be able to capitalize on it, especially in the 1st half. Is it scheme? inexperience? inability? I'm too uneducated to know, but I knew it needed fixed fixed with or without Bosa to be championship worthy. Everyone talking about Bama... No need to worry about that if we don't get past that last game on our schedule.
Agreed. It needs to be fixed, but I am not giving up on the chance that we can get it together.
Same. Everything we want is there for the taking. We'll make the adjustments or not. No need to give up on anything. Enjoy the ride. Let's see how this breaks. We only get so many buckeye football seasons in a lifetime.
Can’t say I blame him. But for one of the best all time talents his legacy will be minimal. That’s a shame.
True. But he now hits the NFL with minimal wear and tear. And everyone knows how good he is.
He's has had this and a torn ACL in HS. That's not minimal.
I meant workload. Number of snaps
Sasha Brown does not know how good he is.
4 years of all world hype for a solid Sophomore year. He’s a great player and I wish him the best but it’s sucks to think about what could’ve been.
Don't listen to Freddy P. Soft
At least he had that. We've had a lot of guys with a ton of hype and nowhere near the results (Dontre Wilson, Torrance Gibson, Demario McCall all come to mind).
Glad I'm not the only person that was thinking this earlier. Joey had a fantastic career and Nick was SO hyped coming in, and he's definitely been good, but more of a case of "what could've been" more than anything else. Oh well, hopefully he has a solid career in the NFL.
People can say what they want, but like it or not, he's an asterisk now--the brother of a legendary Buckeye.
Despite the promise, hopes and headlines, when it comes to delivery, as a matter of indisputable record, he'll be a guy who showed lots of flashes as a pass rushing specialist but never was able to start except for a quarter or third of his final season.
Most of this thread is thankful for what he gave this program, but given the mega check coming his way, is it at least worth mentioning that the program's return on investment won't be quite what Bosa delivered to OSU?
It's an entirely different story with his brother. Fact is, Joey is an all-timer, and as painful as it might be for some people to hear, the record will forever show that Nick was only a part-timer.
That's the thing about this decision--the good comes with the bad. Sometimes that's just how it works, so... in making this decision, Nick effectively gets to write himself a big check without playing another snap, however, he also effectively winds up writing off any notion of having a legacy as an all-time great.
Well not initially but after a few dates, maybe some drinks, a little courtship, we can see what happens.
Ignorance isn't bliss for the rest of us.
After a few beers?
Completely understandable if true.
I don’t think this is one of those “allegedly” cases.
To be fair, the comment you replied to was posted before the official school announcement and was based on a report in the Dispatch.
I see, I was kinda confused by that.
That sucks. Both for him and OSU. Probably the smart decision for him long term but you hate to see a season cut short by injury.
Sad but can't say I didn't see it coming.
Can't blame him... wish him very well... I still think if it's in the cards for us to win it all we will.. I think the team has been preparing for this internally... HUGE loss... but we need to appreciate The Bear... and hope for the best all around.. Go Bucks..
“And in the night of death, hope sees a star and listening love hears the rustle of a wing.”
I figured this would be the logical decision, but doesn’t mean I’m thrilled about it. They could really use him in November. I think he is literally the difference between running the table and losing to That Team.
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That's how we play in todays society, disappointed but not surprised.
Money is more important than most everything in today's society, and it just getting worse
I agree with you. But lets be honest the most important thing to OSU is $. I think i saw an article where they sued a bakery for making cookies with a block O. The football program is a 100 million dollar machine built on amature athletes. Cant fault Bosa for being as concerned about his cash as OSU is about theirs.
True to your name, A.buck, you've put bucks before Buckeyes, or at least Bucks for Bosa (assuming he's not cutting you any checks). All of that is perfectly understandable and your right to do, but for me, I still haven't seen any law that says I've got to look at this situation through the eyes of Bosa or the university.
Fans have the right to their own priorities. I care as much about the dollars that Bosa makes as he cares about my annual income (or should care... he shouldn't, and I don't need him to care bout that anymore than he needs me to care about his bank account).
As for how much Bosa cares about the "brotherhood" or leaving a legacy and winning a national championship, the record will show that there were $# limits to his desire for any of that.
I say, everybody is entitled to judge that decision as they will, starting with Bosa himself (but to me, it doesn't end there).
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Now I need to watch A Christmas Carol.
I love "A Christmas Carol." I like the George C. Scott version. I also think Patrick Stewart's version is very nice. It is a very different tone than is usual. Stewart's Scrooge was much less the stereotypical miser and he doesn't feel as petty as I often find portrayals of the character.
Both very good. Not usually a fan of Jim Carrey, but Disney’s animated version is truest to Dickens’ original work, and has quickly become one of our go-to movies of the season.
Money, so they say, is the root of all evil today. But if you ask for a raise it's no surprise that they're giving none away...
The actual quote is “The love of money is the root of all evil.” Money itself is morally neutral; it’s what humans do with it (or for it) that’s the key.
Although your point is well taken, I was quoting the song. :)
My apologies. As a Floyd fan, I should have realized that!
Money doesn't have to be inherently morally significant to be the root of something
He should continue to play for free and risk his long-term financial security IMO
He should continue to play for free and risk his long-term financial security IMO
You mean continue to play for his college tuition, room, board, cost of attendance, and free access to weight rooms, training staff, and some of the best medical and rehab facilities in college sports, right? We have a son at OSU, and I can assure you it ain't free.
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Your son is not Nick Bosa...an all American, 1st round NFL talent. So yes, he plays for free. A regular student athlete plays for all the things you mentioned.
1) No he doesn’t play for free, because he couldn’t be paid to play in the NFL until after his junior year in college, or three years after he leaves HS. If he could get paid, he never would’ve started this season.
2) You don’t know who my son is. Not that it matters.
3) Nowhere did I say I disagreed with Bosa’s decision. So slow that roll.
To chime in with you NavyBuck, it's interesting to note that if Nick Bosa's time at OSU is so worthless, why is he about to cash a mega check in the NFL?
Ya' know, the check that people in this forum are salivating over so much that you'd think Bosa was splitting his proceeds with them?
Geez, was it because of Bosa's stunning performance in a biology class?
I might add, OSU has played no small role in helping to deliver a mega check to Bosa, and in return, what has Nick Bosa given to OSU, that is, as a matter of record vs. hype?
Well, for one, a student athlete that might eventually earn a college degree (but maybe not).
Beyond that, he's a guy who was a starter on OSU's football team for 20-25% of one season.
Call me crazy, but there have been plenty of those in Ohio State's history, so, all in all...
I'd say Bosa didn't exactly get robbed by the university.
You mean continue to play for his college tuition, room, board, cost of attendance, and free access to weight rooms, training staff, and some of the best medical and rehab facilities in college sports, right? We have a son at OSU, and I can assure you it ain't free.
Yes, being a player at Ohio State does carry a lot of value. That value is dwarfed by the money he would stand to lose by re-injuring himself.
The maximum contract value for the first overall pick last year was $30 million. For the 15th pick, it was $12 million.
Plus, as injury was suffered as an Ohio State athlete, the university has to continue providing his rehabilitation treatment. Urban will undoubtedly still let him use the facilities. And he probably only has one or two semesters of work until his degree is finished – which he can go back for at any time – even if he pays a full year's worth of out-of-state tuition (let's say $30k), that would be one percent of one percent of his gross income from his contract alone – not including investments or endorsements.
Of course college isn't free, but let's not act like that value of what you listed is even in the same stratosphere as his actual earning potential or even the portion of that he would be risking by returning.
Of course college isn't free, but let's not act like that value of what you listed is even in the same stratosphere as his actual earning potential or even the portion of that he would be risking by returning.
I neither stated nor implied that it was worth more than a pro contract. I merely pointed out that it wasn’t free.
Clearly people are very much taking sides on this, which is silly. We don’t know what the doctor told him.
I’m not judging one way or the other. Can’t control it, don’t really care. I’ve moved on and am ready to watch Jones, Landers, Cooper and Young terrorize some QBs.
You mean continue to be forced to play for his college tuition, room and board.....
Also I haven't read that he would have been cleared to play medically? Maybe after an evaluation they deemed he would not have been 100% till after the season.
You mean continue to be forced to play for his college tuition, room and board.....
Forced by whom? He made the choice to step on that field, accept the scholarship, come to college. Those are the rules of the game.
And tell me, how many people wouldn’t be willing to play a game in exchange for their college experience debt free?
The rest of your statement is spot on, and what I assumed from the beginning. Mrs Navy is a physical therapist, and after hearing about Bosa’s injury she estimated Dec at the earliest. So I’m not surprised in the least by his decision.
What surprises me is that he has decided to disenroll from the university.
He's not playing for free and he risks nothing by coming back as long as he's really healthy. His draft slot is top ten no matter what happens.
His draft slot is top ten no matter what happens.
That's what people said about Jaylon Smith, who got injured in a meaningless bowl game and ended up falling to 34th, where he signed a $6 million contract.
He was projected to be a top-five pick prior to that injury. The fifth pick in that draft signed a deal worth $23 million.
If he had chosen to return this season, Nick Bosa would have been betting millions of dollars on his health – and without any chance to significantly increase his value.
No but he should honor his commitment to his teammates
I would bet his teammates respect his decision 100%
"You win with people" — Woody Hayes
I'd take that bet, the 100% part. I do agree he'll have the support of a clear majority, but you're kidding yourself if you think 100% will agree on almost anything.
It's east to say that, but he just went for a medical evaluation. How do we know what the outcome of that was? He and his family have to make this decision on behalf of his future. I'm sure he hates not being out there with his teammates, but he has got to be smart about it.
Let's tell Dwayne to go get ready for the draft... it's best if he is fully ready!
Right, good analogy -- because Bosa was planning to sit the rest of the season after TCU even if he didn't get hurt. /s
That’s easy to say from your couch without your career on the line. So reasonable of you.
That’s easy to say from your couch without your career many Millions of $$$ on the line.
Frustrating, but I can't blame him.
I would advise my child to do the exact same thing. Focus on the future and secure guaranteed money.
Can’t blame him. Best of luck in the NFL, Joey.
But I am sad about it :(
Best of luck to Nick too!
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LOL Well played.
“He ain’t coming back”. Go Bucks
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Like the glory of the going when Chic Harley got away.” -James Thurber
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I tried to convince myself he was going to be back. Not really surprised with his decision.
Agreed but its the hope that kills you, lol
Agreed. If you told me I could make 18 mil next year if I just didn’t get injured you could bet I’d be locking myself in a room.
Kinda figured he would stay out for the rest of the year for the NFL and the expression on Urban's face when asked about it told me this was the answer no matter what the checkup said.
I don't want to say that this news ruined my day, but... this news ruined my day.
Wishing Nick all the best. I'm sure he feels every bit as robbed as we do.
Wow, all the 11W doctors were wrong.
Or they were hoping money wasnt at the top of his list.
I believe his future was on the top of his list. Isn't that what college is supposed to prepare you for? Do we know what the doctors said? What if they said he can't play foot ball for 6 months? Are negative comments on his intentions warranted then?
We so quickly jump to our own conclusions without knowing the whole story.
Besides, if it could mean a $10 million or so difference in future earnings for him and his future family, who would not give that serious consideration?
This has nothing to do with his recovery and everything to do with him wanting to prepare for his future.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
I may be castigated for these next 2 words, Denzel Ward. Was he also not only looking out for his future.
Wishing Bosa the best going forward!
I think he punked out on his teammates too
On the contrary, I was NOT saying Denzel punked out!
I understood Denzel’s decision as I do Bosa’s. I’m not surprised either!
I noted early after the injury and (I believe it was) post surgery, HIS Dad not the program, took control of the narrative and stated when his follow up visit with the Dr would happen!
Ward missed a meaningless bowl game. Bosa is missing out on a potential championship run. Not saying what Bosa is doing is right or wrong, just that this decision is 100% business. He didn’t even have to rush the rehab process if he wanted to come back for the last few games of the season. His family and him decided it would be best if he prepared for his future, it is what it is. He’s going to be a great pro.
And if he came back for the last few games of the season (and we are assuming he would be medically cleared for that) what kind of football condition would he be in? He would be rusty and not in game shape, which could lead to further injury.
Like you said, they made the call.
This sucks. But as always, go get that money. That's the goal at the end of the day.
"To Buckeye Nation: You have my word that I'm going to give everything I have to continue the tradition of excellence and winning that this program has enjoyed during its storied history."
Being a captain of the team, does this seem like something a captain does? I might catch hell for not just wishing him well, but you made a commitment to your brothers on the team and this injury isn't one that would ever end your career so why are you leaving us Nick?
That's how winners play. We convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
you have no idea the extent of the injury
I have read numerous comments from other professional athletes that had the same exact injury and same exact surgery and they said he will be fine. They also said that once their muscles healed after surgery that they were 100% like it never happened and never had a remote feeling of it happening again.... so there's that
had the same exact injury and same exact surgery
Ain't no such thing as "exact same" when an injury requires surgery. That goes double when they don't play the same position.
We do all share very similar (some would say identical) human anatomy.
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jesus dude thats a little picky. Ok the SAME injury
As someone who treats these injuries medically. I will say again, you do not know the extent of the injury
Totally agree, Keyser, on top of the fact that Boss's father admitted (or let it slip) that the surgery went "fantastic," on top of which, he allegedly went to the nation's top specialist for this specific surgery.
Sadly, this situation forces NFL scouts and GMs either to conclude that Bosa is not only prone to injury, which, unfortunately, is an established fact (note: He's sat out 2 of the past 4 seasons because of injury, and to date, he has only earned a starting job for 20-25% of one season), but he's also a slow healer OR he puts money far ahead of his team and winning.
Like the rest of us, the NFL is forced to choose one or the other, but It can't be both (as a matter of logic, not opinion)
Some people can't see past the $$$
Rewatch the play he got hurt in the TCU game. That TCU OT simply tackled Bosa. Fucking refs didnt call anything and refs continue to allow our DL to get held which is probably why so many of them are hurt. It's bullshit.
I’ve been waiting for somebody to mention this. People forget that he got hurt on a play in which he beat the LT so the guy pulled him down and the ref looked right at it and held his whistle like they did with every call that game.
Would you risk the kind of money he is looking at? Besides, maybe, just maybe the injury is more serious. Maybe he can't get back to full strength in time. I saw him in a TV shot this weekend, you can see it in his eyes how badly he wants to be out there.
C'mon, now. that's just speculation. Maybe you're right, but it's just as speculative as the guy I was watching the game with, who said just the opposite--i..e, he looks like a guy who's done with college altogether and can't wait to cash his checks. I didn't agree, but I have to admit, even I was surprised that Bosa not only quit the team, he completely dropped out of school.
In the end, I guess we all have our different perspectives, but in the end, the facts will remain: He was a starter for 20-25% of one season and then quit the team for money in the NFL after an injury that keeps the average person out 3-6 weeks but kept him out 12 weeks, despite having a surgery by the nation's top specialist that went "fantastic" (according to his own dad).
We can budget he facts as we will, but if you ask me, those are some pretty damning facts (except for the fact that Bosa will only be "damned" to collect tends of millions of dollars, while the rest of "brotherhood" will be left to struggle a lot damned harder for a championship).
I thought I heard that he was scheduled to visit his doctor today. My guess is the recovery is going to need more time. Besides, how does it help anyone if he goes out there for a series or two and does more damage to his body?
I agree 100% unless he is 100% healed he shouldn't practice or play in a game, but if he is 100% I think he should come back.
I get your take KS and appreciate your forthrightness.
That's what the forums are for, to share opinions and banter endlessly about those opinions.
I'm definitely not envious of his position because he's going to be judged regardless of what he decides but at the end of the day, he has to do what is best for himself in the long-term. It just plain sucks from a fan's perspective though.
Seems like a childish way to react. We don't know the full story or the extent of his injury. He could come back at 100% but he also could rush back and not be himself or even worse get hurt again.
"Let me quote the late great Cornel Sanders, I'm to drunk to taste this chicken"
Childish? did you not read my comment above that was before you posted yours.... I agree 100% unless he is 100% healed he shouldn't practice or play in a game, but if he is 100% I think he should come back.
I did not
Is the pride and duty of being a team captain worth the $18 million he'd lose if he fell from the first pick to the 15th?
It sucks that we won't get to watch him at OSU anymore, but it's clear as day that the risk is simply not worth the reward.
Earl Thomas give this two thumbs up.
Don't blame him for this decision at all. He has his own future to look out for. The defense really needs to step up and learn how to produce without him going forward. I hope the coaches really get on them about that this week.
There's the challenge as a coach. "Do it for your brothers!" speeches in the locker room ring a little hollower when the elephant in the room is that the brotherhood surrenders to money. I'm not saying that I don't understand or respect what the Bosas and Wards of the college football world decide to do, but believing in the brotherhood is key to those who are still suiting up.
I suppose that I've been preparing myself for something like this, so I am not particularly surprised that he won't be back on the field. I get not wanting to jeopardize his draft status and, were he my kid, I'd likely give him the same advice. Where I am disappointed, is in his decision to drop out of school and move on. He was a captain of the team and, even without playing on the field, he could have contributed his expertise to the younger guys, and his leadership in the locker room. He could have remained in school and still had access to top-notch training facilities, medical care, and the best d-line coach in the country.
My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)
Haskins should leave now... He's a top QB.... go do what's best for YOU! Sure everyone would understand!
Haskins is not injured. Different situation. Not to mention Daddy Bosa has experienced his NFL career ending prematurely due to injury. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a hand in influencing this decision. Haskins has no reason to leave, he's 100% healthy at the moment and lighting defenses up week after week. What he does after the season is anybody's guess but Haskins isn't going to up and bail on the team while they're in the middle of a push for CFP. That's not realistic. Haskins won't be making any decisions about his future until after the season most likely.
I agree with what you’re saying as far as what will happen. But the premise of a lot of comments on here is “why risk injury (or in Bosa’s case, further injury) when his draft stock is as high as he needs it to be now” or, “these guys only play college ball for the purpose of getting into the NFL and no other reason.” If that’s the criteria for this decision, then Haskins shouldn’t play another single snap. Yet he will, which shoots down a lot of the arguments made about why players should do this and why we should think it’s ok. I don’t have malice toward a player who does this, but I don’t sugarcoat it either. I call it what it is which is quitting the team. Some people get upset when I say that, but that’s what it is no matter how many arguments about futures, draft stock, money, etc can be made, it is a decision on whether or not to quit the team that got you there.
I do consider it different if someone finishes out their season and then declares early. But I taught my kids to finish out their commitments for the season unless they were unable to. If they didn’t do that, then they were qutting. I don’t think of it any differently for anyone else.
Dude, this is the 5th or 6th time you've made this exact same point. Let it go.
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Definitely understand the rationale but extremely disappointed in the way this is sounding like it's going to end for Ursa Minor.
Can't blame him. Go get paid young man. Thanks for everything.
It's too bad his career at Ohio State ended like this but hard to blame him. Good luck, Nick.
Sucks for us this season but wish him all the best.
Shame he won't go down in OSU history like his brother in terms of on the field play but getting to the NFL as a top 5 pick without having to play all season means he'll hit the ground running during the offseason and will be completely healthy.
To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.
Well, that sucks. It's disappointing, but understandable. Guess it means next guy up
Sigh.Fine. fine fine fine
"You are confined only by the walls you build yourself."
This was never more than an outside chance at best. Urban, as we're all well aware, is a hyperbole machine, so anyone who based his hopes for Bosa's return on Meyer's initial implication that Bosa would return has probably never had a surgical procedure from a football injury. The "X to X months" surgery to return time frame is a guesstimate, and often times those guesstimates are simply off base. Good luck to him... he was a helluva college football player.
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Completely understand. Get that $ while you can
Leave one wolf alive....and the sheep are never safe
College football is starting to become like minor league baseball. Second time in a row we lost our best defensive player with games still to play. This time injury played a bigger role, but there it is.
Best of luck, thanks for the memories.
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For the love of God, why can’t Ohio State fans ever get to enjoy monsters on the bookends of a line. Bosa and Spence, now Young and Bosa.
Nick created a legacy here, this is just such a crummy way to end it.
Kind of fitting considering how Joey went out eh?
Noah Spence got himself banned from the B1G cause he had a serious substance abuse problem. Nothing OSU can do about that. It sucks that he didn't last at OSU because of that but he made his bed and chose to lie in it there.
Nick didn't really create a legacy here. His decision is completely understandable though.
Well, technically he left a legacy, but unfortunately, it's that he earned a starting role for 2 1/2 games against two weak teams and then couldn't make it through the third game, which, frankly, is somewhat ominous given that he's undersized for his position in the NFL and injuries have ended 2 of his past 4 seasons (on top of which, apparently, his body heals more slowly than the average octogenarian).
Unfortunately, if you look at his record, unlike his rightfully acclaimed big brother, he's played in only a couple of games against stiff competition, and except for roughly half of the TCU game, he's been a pass rushing specialist rather than a starter.
Nobody doubts his technique, but without the 5 or so big games that he still could have played in this year, I predict you will hear NFL GMs eventually start to express their doubts about Bosa (not hugely, but enough) and Bosa very well might see his stock dropping more than anybody now wants to imagine.
In short, Bosa's decision to quit the team and leave the school may be more costly than he or anybody else imagines (per the assumption that he'll be a top 5 pick and "sure thing").
If Bosa had finished out this season, he would have been taking a risk, but he's also taking a bit of risk by not playing.
Fact is, lots of strange things happen leading up to draft day as GMs inevitably put players under their microscopes, as well as their telescopes of long-term potential.
It happens ever year, and Bosa's size, injury problems, part-time status, and minimal participation in meaningful games against tough competition, combined with abandoning ship for a safer paycheck (note: don't think for a moment that NFL teams don't factor financial considerations into their choices, just like Bosa) may become more problematic.
We'll see, but don't be surprised if Bosa eventually regrets this decision in more ways than one.
Meanwhile, when it comes to his legacy, if people are truly honest about it, he'd be forgotten in a heartbeat if it weren't for his brother. "Little bear's" name may always be linked with Joey to some degree (largely as a trivia question), which will extend the shelf life of a guy who only started in less than a handful of games, but rest assured, his name will sink further and further into the shadows with every passing year, just like most part-time players of the past at OSU.
In other words, not all of the consequences of Bosa's decision are good ones, but then, who cares about a legacy when you've got a big bank account, right? I mean, sure, he possibly could have both if he stuck around and enhanced his prospects and carved out a place in Buckeye lore, but no matter how anybody judges him, the undeniable fact for now is that he's more into money than football or "sacrificing for the team" to take that risk.
If you're into financial glory and worshiping somebody else's money, he's your man. If you're into respecting guys who put everything on the line as a competitor, he's not.
And don't blame me. It's not my decision. Bosa will be richer for it, albeit in money and nothing else. In other words, Bosa's response to earning football glory at Ohio State is, well, I guess you could sat it's a signature Bosa move...
A shrug of the shoulders.
Hate this, for both Nick & the team.
If it's an injury decision, and he just isn't going to be healthy enough in the long run to play, then I get it. It's not something you'd want to risk re-injuring and setting back your recovery.
If it's a choice not to play when he could play the last couple games and he will be near 100%, that I have a problem with. I get that it's his decision and his future/money, but he's a captain on this team.
I think we'll find out more in the next week or so as to what drove this decision.
Either way, it sucks for the team. It's clear that we really NEED him on the line to inflict constant havoc on the offensive line and QB. Defensive strategy needs to adapt big time without him going forward.
I really thought he would at least come back for TTUN, B1G Championship and the playoffs. Big time bummer!
"You show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser'' -Vince Lombardi-
Thanks for the time at OSU, Nick; you’ll be sorely missed. Heal up and good luck in the League. Also, please don’t go to the Patriots or Ravens. I don’t want to have to root against you.
With rehab he would most likely miss the season. His draft status is just too high for him to risk reinjuring himself.
All the bad words.
A huge hit. God luck young man.
North West Ohio's finest...
I think this violates the no jiggle rule, and it violates my eyes.
Completely understandable, but I'm disappointed for him. I was hoping he could end his OSU career by stomping a mudhole in TTUN, the B1GCG and Playoffs. Bummer he can't add that to his legacy.
Sucks for us...but I'm more concerned with him.
Here's the keys Chase...run the wheels off that bitch.
The future is now for our underclassmen on defense.
When we need them the most, who will give us their very best?
Well in case you missed it, Chase Young has been stepping up nicely. Now we just need Cooper to do the same.
The predator definitely has, but he is one DE on one side of the line. With Cooper and Jones banged up Friday, Hamilton, Smith, etc. will be needed. I was referring to unproven guys basically. Who can be the next man up that fills production?
This is disappointing, but I completely understand that this is the best decision for his future. Time for Chase Young to step up big time.
"Ice! It's in my veins!" - D'Angelo Russell
Then Chase can sit out next year for the same reasons. Sorry. But if you are healthy enough to stand by your brothers in war you stand tall.
Chase will play next year as long as he's healthy and OSU is in the National Championship discussion. Players don't just chose to hamg them up and quit on their team once they lose a few games and the Natty aspirations are no longer realistic. At most if OSU isn't playing for anything by the end of the year Chase MIGHT sit out the Bowl Game (that's entirely up to him). Either way it's too far down the road to be thinking about right now. Chase is going to be relied on heavily now going forward with Bosa out.
You didn't do that right bub
I think you missed the memo on how to troll LCT's username.
Jeaux Burrow is more loyal to the Buckeyes than Nick.
Well this was the season we expected to fully unleash him...sucks to see it cut short.
Good luck at the next level
Not surprised at all... best of luck to the "Smaller Bear"
Thank You for everything!
Worst part, IMO, is that the blatant holding call that caused the injury which ended his Buckeye career went uncalled and led directly to a TCU TD. That just added insult to injury.
Well it sucks for us. But it's a good move for him. Thanks for everything Smaller Bear!
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A lot for this team to overcome. Injuries, youth, etc.
Can’t fault him but feel like OSU is kind of on the cliff here. Can they get things together and fixed or will it come off the rails.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Chase Winovich returned to school to play a full season when he could have gone to the Draft last year. I think it speaks highly to the level of dedication he has for his university, his brothers on the field, and his desire to win a national championship.
And he will still make millions in the NFL. I’m not saying they have to be like Chase Winovich. But I respect Chase Winovich.
Chase Winovich wasn't going to be a top 3 pick in the draft
And he’s not going to be one next year. His draft stock will be about the same.
But I’d take Winovich. Some team is going to get a serious steal there. He loves football. He wants to win. He will not be a paycheck player. I honestly can’t say the same for Nick Bosa right now.
Have you watch this kid play? And you still say he doesn't care?
And when did you see young Mr Bosa do his blowhard routine to get attention?
Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!
Winovich was a 3rd/4th round grade at best last year. Not a fair comparison
A bit apples to oranges though here...
I agree with your sentiment, especially because Nick is a captain, but coming back for MAYBE three games just to risk reinjuring yourself and losing millions of dollars is different than coming back for an extra season to achieve goals.
Chase winovich was never going to be the #1 pick in the draft.
And neither will Nick Bosa. Is he a quarterback?
I wouldn’t draft Nick in the top 10. I think he will play scared at the next level.
Let me know which company or team you scout for.
It's the opinion of MANY he'll be the 1st pick. Most all have him top 5 for sure.
A quarterback will be the #1 pick. Maybe you don’t pay much attention to the NFL. It’s a quarterback league. Haskins has a better chance of being the #1 pick than Bosa. And Haskins is still playing? Weird. Almost like he cares.
So, Buffalo will pick another QB after taking one last year? Cleveland? Oakland? Maybe the Giants will be there to take a QB #1 overall, but many bottom dwellers have already drafted their franchise QB.
legislating how much 20 year olds care about the thing they've dedicated their whole life to is embarrassing please go take a walk you'll feel better
hahaha. Again, go ahead and drop your credentials in so we can compare with all the other scouts that are talking about it.
4 DE's have gone 1st overall within the past 19 years so its certainly possible Bosa could go there as well, especially in a draft currently lacking a sure thing at QB (Haskins may prove that differently by the end of the season).
Myles Garrett says hi. But I see the confusion, the 2017 draft was so long ago.
Ward skipped per his bowl game and is certainly playing scared, all the way to DROY. Joey Bosa sat out his training camp because he was obviously scared. And then won DROY. Seems to me what you think is playing scared is just being smart.
I hate to say it, but Chase Winovich has a much more likable personality than old Michigan guys like Taylor Lewan, Mike Hart, Kyle Kalis...came back for Sr. year, no trash talk, gave Chase Young props when they split defensive player of the week, seemed pretty friendly in his Wisconsin postgame interview. I'll give credit where it's due.
That’s now both Bosa brothers with careers cut short
The Future is Bright at Ohio State
Hard to be mad about this for anything other than selfish reasons.
Best of luck little bear.
You mean like his reason for quitting on his teammates.
A close co-worker of mine recently left the company to pursue a better career opportunity. I'm upset that we lost his skills and experience, but I can't fault him for taking a better job.
At the end of the day, football is Nick's career (soon to be at least) so I'm not sure how anybody else can fault him for making a decision to focus on his career.
It sucks for us, and I'm sure it was a difficult decision, but when millions of dollars are on the line, this is certainly the safe choice, if not the correct one.
Sorry I guess I dont see money as that important. It may be your correct choice to chase the millions but imo quitting before the season is over is telling his teammates that money is more important to him than they are. He could easily have stayed enrolled and hung out with the team and still been a leader. Instead he is running from the brotherhood that they preach about. He should have just sat out the year if he wasnt gonna stick it out.
Sorry I guess I dont see money as that important. It may be your correct choice to chase the millions but imo quitting before the season is over is telling his teammates that money is more important to him than they are.
The difference between the 1st pick and the 15th pick is $18 million. That's… uh, important.
He could easily have stayed enrolled and hung out with the team and still been a leader. Instead he is running from the brotherhood that they preach about.
Is that desire to be a leader for another couple of months worth risking $30 million?
Best of luck Nick. You made the great state of Ohio proud.
Understandable but disappointing. It was a bad break for him to get hurt when he did but it is too bad. Good luck to him.
Just be happy we saw two of the best to play the game in Scarlet & Gray.
Barely saw Nick to be honest.
Yeah it's a shame that zero Ohio State games were televised in 2016 or 2017.
You'll probably have haters for that, but I don't think that's unfair. He was a contributor as a freshman but not really a fulltime force, he was a very good regular as a sophomore (though he got thrown out of one of the Buckeyes' two losses), and he played 2 1/2 games as a junior. That's a very minimal legacy for someone to be called "one of the best ever."
I can’t blame him at all, so I wish him nothing but the best. He was one of the best to ever play defense of line here, but in time and nobody will know or remember his time at Ohio State. Because he hasn’t been on the field enough to gain any all American awards Which he would have cleaned up this year without question.
He will cash massive checks, and seems destined for a great NFL career, but I feel bittersweet that he won’t be enshrined in Columbus like he could’ve been. Future players won’t see his awards at the Woody.
As long as I live I will be sure to tell his story at Ohio State. That I lived during the time of The Bosas. That I lived during the time of The Rushmen.
Make preparations in advance. You never have trouble if you are prepared for it.
As long as I live I will be sure to tell his story at Ohio State. That I lived during the time of The Bosas. That I lived during the time of The Rushmen.
You had me until this.
lol +1. That last part was just for you, CC!
I know I’ll get DV for this but it is what it is, but for a program that preaches brotherhood so much and u hear it in every hype trailer we put out and see it on the walls and hear it from the players when they talk this lacks any sense of brotherhood. Don’t get me wrong I don’t blame him for doing it but I don’t think we should be preaching it if we don’t believe it or show it.
Totally fair. But equally, I think it takes tremendous "brotherhood" to accept his decision and support him in his future endeavors, which I imagine is what his teammates (and Coach Meyer/Johnson) are doing. Tough times for everyone, and tough decisions have to be made.
So if someone from the brotherhood leaves the brotherhood the brotherhood has to support his decision to remain a brotherhood........got it.
The pain of discipline or the pain of regret, take your pick
Haha. Sure, I guess. Not going to look at that generalized scenario in isolation. Within this program, this team, these players, and this coach (see statement above), I'm gonna say... yep.
The precedence this sets is ugly for all of college football. Anyone ok with this will have to be ok with the next projected top 10 pick sitting out their entire 3rd year. Injuries are a part of the game. Always has been and its pretty much guaranteed that you will get injured. Playing for titles is not guaranteed but that chance is a honor. Honor and pride are not guaranteed anymore. Loyalty to your brothers coaches and fans obviously isnt guaranteed anymore either.
This is the precedence. Sad but true.
This x 2 ^^^^^
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This has a negligible effect on college football. There are 10,000+ D1 FBS players. Roughly 10 of them are guaranteed top picks. We just happen to follow a team that has really really good players.
I honestly don't get it. This isn't a structural injury like, say, an ACL or something that can end a career. And from what I've read, once healed, you're 100%.
In the end I can't argue with his own choice, but I really don't like it. Will still root for him on at next level though.
Well - FUCK....that is all
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Secure the bag Nick and do you. If you got hurt again OSU wasn't going to cut you a check for $32M guaranteed so I have no issue with it.
Sigh. I had this vision of Boss coming back to crush the opposition. Good luck to him! Thanks to the lousy officials in the TCU game for allowing that to happen.
"I miss Brady Hoke."
It still happened whether a flag was thrown or not.
Yes, but it wasn't just that play. They called the whole game like that--shittily. I think it created a culture in that game that was unhealthy.
Man, can't blame him for the decision at all, but it REALLY sucks... Bummer.
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
Crap on a stick.
It wasn't even a guarantee that he'd be back by bowl season and if he did come back too soon and got re-injured, it could cost him millions. I don't blame him one bit for doing what's best for him. I'm sure all the people bitching about the money would do the same thing if they were him.
Big time bummer. I really thought he would wait till he was evaluated before making a decision. I honestly thought he would come back if cleared. Disappointed ...
Biggest MOOB ever.
First Spence is bounced when we were looking at a season of him and Big Bear. Now, Small Bear goes down before we ever really get to enjoy him opposite Young. #willalwayswonder
Pain of Discipline
Pain of Regret
Take Your Pick
Hoped he was coming back, next man up! Time for the d-line to step up their game. Good luck to Nick in the draft.
Well, best of luck to the kid. If he's concerned about longevity, he better hope the Colts have an improved record soon, otherwise he'll have some actual injury concerns to worry over.
Sucks but I can't fault him. its hard to sacrifice your health and future when you aren't getting paid for it. another injury and he immediately gets labeled as "injury prone" and it hurts his draft stock. meanwhile it would be poor form to force him out there when his head isn't 100% in it, even if he is physically healed. Hard decision that I doubt he took lightly.
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Good for him. Obviously we fans wanted him back, but any prospect's shelf life is short, and he should go get that money. Denzel made the right choice too last year.
A man got to have a code...
Gotta protect the investment. Such is life.
I completely understand this decision. Best of luck to him moving forward.
Anyone upset by this is being selfish. A quick reading of these comments doesn't worry me but man this is blowing up on Facebook.
Nick Bosa is holding a winning lotto ticket he can not cash until April. Said ticket is now soaked in Kerosine and coming back is the equivalent of walking by an open flame. Instead, lock that ticket up and cash out in April. I get it Nick.
I know football is dangerous and anyone is at risk to be hurt at any time, but few are slotted as high as Nick and less are already facing an injury. I 100% understand and suppor this move. Thank you to the entire Bosa dynasty for what you added to my enjoyment of OSU football.
Looking forward to seeing you on Sunday's little bear.
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You were the last comment so I replied.
most kids (99%) doing this makes more sense than Nick Bosa. I know it isn’t his cash, but his family has millions of dollars so they aren’t in a dire financial position where he is setting his family up for life; that’s already been done.
He said he wanted to win a national title with team before the season. He still had (has?) an opportunity to do that. If he leaves he doesn’t. Selfish isn’t the right word, but I think more with him than many others we can be disappointed in his decision here
He said he wanted to win a national title with team before the season.
And believe it or not but a person can re-evaluate their priorities during these events. This doesn't mean he was 100% honest about his intentions before the season started.
Maybe he wants to play on Sunday's/win the superbowl/be an NFL stud just as much as winning a national championship.
We still don't know the extent of the injury or details. We don't know what his doctors are telling him about his recovery, or risks of reinjury. All we know is we as fans absolutely want him back, but he needs to protect himself if there is a risk.
I'm really disappointed we don't get to see what Nick Bosa could do for an entire season as a featured player, but I can't be upset with the man for making a tough decision when I don't know any of the details.
Don't understand who's decision it was to play him damn near every play when he had a groin problem already? Did this problem, non-rested, lead to the final tear? Were numbers..sacks, etc....a consideration? By who?
His family has money, he doesn't
A quick reading of these comments doesn't worry me but man this is blowing up on Facebook.
Pro-tip for the day: stay off FB AND the Tweeter too. There is nothing good on either of them most days...
Well this sucks...
I am here for the same reason you are.
Neither Bosa got the ending at OSU we are they deserved.
Didn't they both leave early by their own decisions?
Joey - last play ejected for targeting
Nick - last play injury
Yes, but... Although I respect both of their decisions, it was their decisions to leave. In other words, they are the ones who chose to make it the last game. Neither of them played a senior year, neither of them suffered career-ending injuries. That's why I questioned "deserved". Nothing was taken away from them. I guess I have a different understanding of the term.
Between stuff like this, sitting out bowl games, targeting ejections/suspensions in the college game, and the beyond stupid roughing the passer call in the NFL, I really don't like the direction the sport is going AS A FAN. I understand it from the players league and perspective, but I hate it, all of it.
That's a Buckeye touchdown!
Sucks but I get it. Still, it’s an unfortunate trend. Maybe better to recruit high 4 star kids instead of 5 start kids, because they play to the end trying to get into the 1st round.
Need to move Berry back to DE now?
Best of luck at the next level Nick - sad to not get to see him suit up in the S&G again, but can't knock this decision at all. Get healthy and we'll see you on Sundays!
"As long as we're keeping score, we're gonna try to win this thing." - UFM
Next man up.
Enjoying daily the 62-39 ttun beatdown.
This!!! Next man up.
Not surprising news....but still frustrating.
From a selfish standpoint....we were just starting to get a glimpse of the impact he would have on games. We never saw him play full time like Joey. Nick was always splitting reps with other (well deserving) players. This was the year we would see him be a bad a$$ full time....and that TCU strip sack was just the start. The window of opportunity closes fast.
Good luck in the NFL!
I rather wish that Nick had waited until next week to make the announcement. His call might inflict a bit of downerdom onto the team, and right before a pivotal game, too. I do not blame him for this decision, though. Thanks for the memories, Little Bear...
"There is nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
Completed the "Double Skully" 18-August-2015
His MD evaluation wasn't scheduled until tomorrow and reading this it sounds like his parents and Nick sat down and decided to make sure that he is fit for the NFL instead of playing and possibly reinjuring it again. Can't say that I blame him but it sure would have been nice to have him for "The Game". Just selfish on my part I guess!
Now with that decision settled in, the defense will have to bump it up a few notches knowing that Nick won't be back and it all up to them!
No Excuses....dont blame Bosa one bit. I knew he was done as a buckeye.
I Hate Michigan.
Proud to call you a Buckeye Nick! Thank you for what you did and no matter what you will ALWAYS BE A BUCKEYE! Don't sweat all the stupid ass haters! If they were in your position they 95% of them would do the same thing!
Pain heals, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever
I think his return was always highly doubtful. After he said he would not be evaluated until November, I thought his return was unlikely. Either way, I'd rather no now and adjust accordingly than continue under the assumption that he will return.
For anyone calling his character/toughness/leadership qualities into question...please get a life.
Bears...Buckeyes... Battlestar Galactica.
This sucks so bad.
I gotta think that Daddy Bosa's career being cut short by injury and Joey having not played this season has had a huge impact on this decision. Sucks. I hold no ill will toward the Bosas. They're awesome and love Ohio State. Just wish this could be different.
And maybe it's just cause I'm down, maybe it's cause of the last two games, maybe it's cause of this, maybe it's cause our signature wins lack some luster now, but I don't like the direction this season is going and can't shake the feeling that it'll end badly.
Kyle "blood on the field" Kalis... 0-5
Also, I'll wait for the statement but what if we win the conference championship and are in the playoff? Would he really sit out the playoff being a 100% healthy? really? I don't want to judge, but if it were to play out that way, I would loose respect for him (and I'm sure his team and a lot of fans would to) That's why I don't understand blanketly putting out that your done already? I know, I know, I'm not a doctor and have no idea what's going on behind the scenes
Can’t blame him at all. He gave us a lot of intensity in his time here. Go get your top 5 money young man.
Good luck to Nick. Hope he'll still be around to support his teammates as they dive into the meat of their schedule.
Will be interested to find out why the decision is being made now. I suspect they got medical feedback that suggested there is too much healing left to do to expect to be healthy and back in playing condition by the end of the year.
If that is not the case, I am baffled at why the decision is being made so far in advance of the season's end.
Just cancel college football. None of these players want to be here. How many of us would kill to have the talent to help this team win a national title?
Bosa has that talent. And he doesn’t care. I really don’t want to hear Nick Bosa say “THE Ohio State University” when he plays at the next level.
And to those who would suggest that he could get hurt and lose millions.... a lot of them could. Haskins could. Should they all shut it down? Just quit and move on? It’s football. They all know it’s a tough sport. They all choose to play it. And what makes it entertaining for us as fans is that we believe they play it with a passion to win. Hard to believe that anymore. Maybe they play with passion in Ann Arbor.
Delete your account.
And what makes it entertaining for us as fans is that we believe they play it with a passion to win.
I don't see how Nick shutting it down negates any passion he has for winning. The fact of the matter is the opportunity cost of coming back immediately is higher than being drafted into a solid rookie contract. You may think these kids come in bleeding scarlet and grey but the fact is this is a stepping stone to a future they've been building for themselves. I'm not going to kid myself into thinking these kids come here for the same reasons you think they should. Fandom aside, this is the reality and I encourage you to join the rest of us who can see past college football for what it is.
hey man i just wanted to say you suck
Thanks for the feedback. The Bosa family is rich. They’re all about money. Joey held out for more money. Nick is bailing because of money. Money money money. I can’t respect.
god forbid someone make money
Fine. If he’s all about money and money only then don’t get mad when I don’t consider him a Buckeye because that’s more important than money. Never really liked Nick Bosa anyway. Great talent but seemed like an entitled jerk off the field. Born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
Money that you and I make? Ok I get it, but have you ever been faced with the decision that if you try and help your team, it could potentially cost you tens of millions of dollars? I doubt it. College is sold to everyone as a stepping stone and a means to an end. The end being making a good living to live a comfortable life. But this kid should forfeit that dream that is realistically right in front of his face to rush back from an injury because he owes something to OSU fans? Hell no. It's not like the kid was going out and half assing his way through games when he was there. He went hard from start to finish, and unfortunately had a freak injury that derailed his final season. Get over yourself.
I make decisions every day that cost me money because I base those decisions on right and wrong, not my bank account. Money isn’t everything. Money can’t buy me a chance to play for a national title. If it could, I’d pay it. Once in a lifetime opportunity.
So playing college football is more right than trying to secure the future for yourself and your family? Do you really think his bank account is all he is thinking of? Do you have the medical records and test results? I guess we all know better than the Bosas.
And to those who would suggest that he could get hurt and lose millions....
He's already hurt. Unless you are his family or his doctor, you have no idea how ready to return he is.
How many of us would kill to get a $30-40 million paycheck?
He doesn't have passion? He has been training his entire life for a goal that is 6 months from happening - I would protect that in every way i could, and so would my family...
Have you ever trained for anything in your life? My guess is no.
Jesus, I'm running out of downvotes for your idiotic comments. Please leave.
"I am El Guapo...the handsome one."
Gonna pass on leaving, but I do appreciate how kindly you put the suggestion.
I can't put anything kindly to someone who passes such judgment on a person, family, and decision they know nothing about.
And the Bosa era ends. Can't blame the kid, I'd do the same thing if I was in his shoes.
Go get paid little bear. We'd all do the same.
Pray for potatoes with a hoe in your hand.
By definition, that is Selfish. That said, I don't blame him one bit. That said, get off our sideline! Bosa has abandoned his team, and shouldn't be allowed to hang with them.
Nope, Not the Whole Damn State!
That said, get off our sideline!
Kinda sounds like you blame him at least one bit. Also our sideline? Since when did you put in work to even begin to think you have some sort of ownership over this football team? Nick earned his spot on this team, the respect of his teammates, and the opportunity to be there for them if/when he's needed, whether he's in pads or (now) sweats.
You're in no position to tell him what to do, when to do it, and how to do it to satisfy you. Quit acting like you're entitled to something you never have, and never will, have any authority over.
To your point, you are correct that I am not part of the team. Ya got me. Also, thanks for reviving the most over used trope in sports fandom. What's next? You gonna get me for "can you get me a drink?" vs. "will you get me a drink?"
So no I'm not on the team. I'm just a fan of over 40 years of this team, and God forbid, it should make up a part of my identity. Good on you for being so balanced. But I don't care how good you are, or how respected you are, the moment you bail on your team, you have shown your character, and should be treated in kind.
And not for nothing, but grow up. You are in the same non-position of telling others what, or what no to do. Just sayin.
What's next? You gonna get me for "can you get me a drink?" vs. "will you get me a drink?"
No, not that. I'd rather focus on the part where you say part of your identity includes what a bunch of 18-21 year olds, who don't even know you exist, do on a 100 yard lined field a handful of Saturday's a year. That says more than I ever could. This coming from an alumnus that donates to the University.
If you are a fan of any sports team, that is part of your identity, just like if you enjoy arguing semantics on a football forum, that is also part of what makes you, "you". Now, buy your reply, it seems to me that you might be over estimating the "part" of my identity my tOSU fandom comprises ( blah, assumptions! amiright?). So let's be clear.. A slip of the tongue (or in this case, word on the internet) has caused you to spiral into rant on a point made long ago by every "well actually" POS to walk this earth (but I'm not talking about you here. Promise), so let's just agree to disagree about this Bosa matter. To you I say "Good Day."
I said, "Good Day!".
Have to think T. Smith gets more PT now esp with Cooper dinged up. But this is a big blow for stretch run. Pass rush has been hit or miss lately. Really disappointing from the OSU view of things. Young, Cooper. Cornell and Smith seem to be the guys going forward. All good but this is a huge dent for the D line
Best of luck kid, can't blame you for not rushing back and possibly hurting your chance at making a lot of money. Now do us all a favor, get with your brother and tell him the two of you need to wife up and start having kids to fill the pipeline for 2036 and beyond of future Bosa's.
Wow, that is too bad. We have been privileged to see him in the Scarlet and Gray.
I’m petty. I’d just have my doctor tell the team I’m injured while I rehab and work out on my own, hang out on the sidelines as a member of the team for the rest of the season/bowl games and collect the swag at comes along with the b10 title and postseason.
Glad we had him on the bench the last two years
what a waste by urban and staff. Hardly even got to see him play
Yup, shame on that staff for not being able to foresee how Nick's career would ultimately end at Ohio State.
"Anything easy ain't worth a damn"
I have absolutely no problem with him not coming back this year, for the obvious reasons. What rubs me the wrong way about this is withdrawing from school/basically removing yourself from the program. He couldn't rehab that injury and get ready for the draft while still being around the defensive line room and being a positive influence on the development of the young guys?
Where he’s going and what he’s doing for the work and preparation would probably rule him ineligible by the ncaa anyway.
Also he’s probably withdrawing from classes so the academic requirement to be a part of the team wouldn’t be satisfied.
Maybe he thought he would be a distraction. Let the coaches coach up the players that are actually going to play
I do not blame him one bit. I enjoyed it while it lasted. Hope the best for him. I really didn't expect him to come back anyways.
I'm a little surprised he's making such a final announcement now, when he could have rehabbed at his own pace and decided in December if he'd like to come back for the CFP, should OSU make it. Maybe he's worried about taking the field in anything other than top form and costing himself draft position by not being quite as dominant? Sad.
Well his mom and dad need to get busy and pop out a few more.....
"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa
22 guys on the field. Same people saying "there goes the natty" were the same ones saying it when JT was injured in 2014. Next Silver Bullet Up!
Vires Et Honestas
22 guys on the field. Same people saying "there goes the natty" were the same ones saying it when Braxton Miller was injured in 2014. Then again when JT was injured. Next Silver Bullet Up!
The difference this time is that we didn't really know anything about JT when Braxton got hurt, or about Cardale when JT got hurt. But we've now had a full month to see the Buckeyes play without Nick Bosa, and it's pretty apparent the defense has taken a major hit.
Valid point but the D-line has been the defenses strength even without Bosa. It's the back 7. We are deep on the D-line.
I hope this rallies this team. They seem lifeless at times...esp on defense. Someone has to get this team their mojo back. Just seems like a timid group with not a lot of emotion or vocal leadership
Feels more like a gut punch than something to rally around. It's one thing if a teammate is knocked out for the season, but it's a whole different feeling when someone could return, but says "Nah, I'm good" instead.
I understand the business side of the decision but thought he would attempt to return if the Buckeyes were still in position to win a National Championship. The chances of suffering some devastating injury that would impact Bosa's draft stock seems low, but obviously the money involved makes even the slightest chance of that very serious.
In the end you play the game for championships and eventually money and its a shame he's giving up a chance for one of those things. Yes, life changing money is important but I think Bosa may look back and regret giving up a chance to win something he will never have an opportunity to play for again. Bosa's the only one that can decide what is important to him and I'll be rooting for him in the NFL regardless. Just a shame an injury derailed what was looking like a legitimate chance to be a rare Heisman contender as a defensive player.
There goes our championship hopes IMO. Mixed feelings about the situation, but in the end I get it. You have to do what’s best for your future, that’s the point of going to college anyway. Hopefully this forces the D to ante up.
"Because I couldn't go for three"
Not surprised at all, and I can’t believe that anyone really is. His family knows the business of the NFL, and of course he was going to leave when he could. It sucks, but you can’t really blame him. That payday that he will make is guaranteeing his future. He gets one shot at that. I don’t like it, and it hurts us, but I might have done the same thing. Glad he didn’t drag it out, and glad he is freeing up the scholarship. Go Bucks
Time to unleash the young bulls.
Hope to see more Tyreke Smith and Tyler Friday
I season my simple food with hunger
Bummer, can't complain about him personally but it doesn't mean it doesn't hurt us. Really think he was necessary in having this team winning playoff games.
If you take everything I’ve accomplished in my life and condense it down to one day, it looks decent!
I for one wish him well on making the right choice for himself and his future. I look forward to watching him on Sundays (maybe in my teams Uni!).
Can he legally go since he did not complete 3 full seasons? Or is it 2 seasons making one eligible?
I think he just has to be 3 years removed from High School, but not 100% sure.
Ya 3 years removed and by draft time he’s eligible.
3 years removed from HS is the rule, you can go if you play 0 seasons if you really want to
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Correct. That was my plan
Same I'm still hoping I get a call one of these days. Just like Richard Lagow
Shandy is not beer
Can't fault the guy, but honestly I think that ends our NC hopes. He was the most disruptive d player I've seen since Suh.
It almost feels like MoC from the "what could have been" perspective. They were both clearly amazing players that never played enough to realize their college potential.
There goes the natty. Understand the decision but man, the value of being a part of a "team" seems to diminish by the year.
I'm just going to take this to mean he wasn't going to make it back from the injury for the end of the season anyway. Best of luck, Nick.
Will be interesting to see what happens going forward.
"Khajiit has wares if you have the coin."
I loved watching him play! this is his decision to make and i support that.
Time to circle the wagons. Go Bucks!
I hate that the last time I got to see him play for S&G was getting injured. It makes fiscal sense for him not to come back, I look forward to watching his pro-career. I am truly thankful for his time at Ohio State.
Go Bucks! Go Nick!
The lord of brevity.
One day, he’s gonna wake up and regret not having one more chance to win a champsionship. Money can’t make that regret go away.
you seem upset please calm down
I aim to misbehave.
dude you’re getting downvoted into oblivion. give it a rest.
Could see this team undefeated Big 10 champs or with two losses. Do not have much of a read on them. Defense is weak and this hurts big time. Hoping for the best for these guys but I certainly do not feel confident at all.
LOL. This team is not going to have two losses. How far will they go in the playoffs is the real question
I could see them losing to Purdue this weekend (this game feels way too much like Iowa last year), galvanizing over the break, and then dominating the rest of the way.
Or I could see them losing a couple and ending up in Orlando or Tampa.
It's about how motivated they are, how well the coaches can maintain control and discipline, and who steps into Bosa's shoes as a leader.
Best of luck to him. Put together a small stretch of games there that were pretty amazing. I'll remember those and I'm sure NFL scouts will as well.
Now is the time for Nick to work on his degree before he leaves OSU. Once he's gone, it'll be hard to come back to finish it.
I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.
He is withdrawing from school. He won’t need a degree.
If he withdraws now, he will be an APR hit as well.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.
And the hits just keep coming to this team.
If you consider this decision in a silo, its the right move. With that said, football is a team game and with the preaching about the "Brotherhood" this and that...it's not a great look. NFL scouts and exec might ask him why he felt it was necessary to put his personal aspirations ahead of the team goals? Idk...its a hard choice.
Disappointed for what this means for the team but I understand that this is the smartest choice for his health and finances. Was hoping he would want to try to match his brother with a Natty.
Next man up
yea I don't understand why he had had drop out of school.
MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS
Making a public announcement makes no sense. It benefits no one. He doesn’t have to practice or play if he doesn’t want to, for fear of reinjury or whatnot. He’s earned that, I suppose. But at least keep other teams guessing. Dropping out of school and leaving the team just seem a bit drastic and unnecessary.
Why not just stay with the team, and help cheer, and coach up other players. OSU has state of the art training facility. He could have gone to Urban and said he wasn't 100% and didn't want to risk injury.
If I was an NFL GM this would look bad to me.
Nobody would have ever known. It would look like he did everything possible to help his teammates win.
The timing of this and dropping out of school just looks bad. It wasn't like he was failing in school.
I don't blame him at all for not wanting to risk further injury. Why not just be a coach on sideline for the remaining games?
So many comments that I would rank just a level above cancer. Get a grip people.
The down vote is a mighty tool. Use it on idiots, not differing opinions.
secure that bag
He aint come here to play school man. Personally i would rather see him stay in school even if not play. nearly all before him managed to be ready for the draft after the school year was over or a degree earned. you cant possibly re-hab and prepare that much so i tend do believe he did not much care for the whole school thing. His choice, good luck to him.
Good luck with your recovery process younger Mr Bosa.
Now go forth and multiple Bosa family!!
Please do what your father did, find a spouse with great football bloodlines. Ask dad, I bet he enjoys and gets personal satisfaction from watching his sons play as much if not more than playing himself.
Get healthy and get paid big fella! I'm kind of surprised by the amount of negativity in the comments about this. Dude got hurt and doesn't want to risk coming back to only play 2-3 games. He has nothing to prove. It's not like he's healthy and chose to take the entire year off. He got hurt, luckily it wasn't a worse injury.
Thank you Nick. See you on Sundays.
Honestly...as much as I held out hope that he'd return, I'm not surprised by this. Bosa doesn't need to play another collegiate snap to be a top pick in the draft. His draft stock can only go in one direction, and a return to the field this season only opens up the possibility for that. From a business perspective, this is the right decision, even if we as fans would love to see him come back for the stretch run.
That said, what you can't put a price on is the experience of playing with your team, and playing for a national championship. I'm sure this was a tough decision for him and I hope he doesn't end up regretting it some day, whether this team does win a national title and he wishes he could've been a part of it, or if this team doesn't win it and he's left wondering if him returning to the field would have helped change the outcome.
Class of 2010.
For those of you wondering where Nick goes in the draft, I guarantee you he has extremely vetted info coming from Joeys agent as well as his uncles.
Im not happy about him leaving at all but rest assured he’s doing it with irrefutable data. This is what happens when you follow an elite program. S#*t!
Man the bad news just keep coming this year. Only means we gonna win it all next year to make all this bad news be sweeter. I can't be mad at the guy. But I am disappointed in the guy. All in all he's gotta take care of him in the end. I wouldn't be disappointed if it wasn't nothing but a regular bowl game and not the playoffs on the line. Good luck Joey though!!!!
Lost respect for him.
Its fine to not return to play, but he is dropping out of school and leaving the team altogether. He could have stuck around and helped out the younger guys and been apart of TEAM. He made it all about him.
It doesnt help anyone with him being a distraction. He wants and needs more time to get ready to make a living.
I would assume Gary for Michigan follows Bosa's lead. Really can not blame these guys. The coaches making millions certainly can not blame them either.
Extremely disappointing considering he is my favorite Buckeye and he is an absolute game-changer. I don't blame him and I don't think anyone else has the right to either unless they've been in his shoes. Most likely no one on here has. I wish him the best. GO BUCKS!
Bosa is a businessman, because it’s a business man.
BN is reporting that he’s ALSO dropped out of school and is heading to CA to heal and train for the Combine and the NFL.
At least we did have to wait till November to find it out. Best of luck Mr. Bosa.
Nut on top
He wishes more than anything he could be out there with his brothers. I think this early departure speaks to where this program is at this year. Hope we can win with finesse. Best of luck to Nick, look forward to seeing him on Sundays! Glad he chose to be a Buckeye. Go Bucks!
Wow. Hard to believe a sports hernia surgery in September would affect his ability to play in playoff games in January. Does he get a ring when the Buckeyes win the natty?
Selfishly, I'm disappointed he's not returning & I'm sure Nick is as well to some extent. Realistically, he has an opportunity to make more money in the next 18 months, than any of us could fathom in a lifetime. Wish him well as he was nothing but a class-act his time at OSU.
It's official... Joey is better.
i'm really extremely disappointed in this news...not because bosa's decided to shut it down and leave school, but because of the injury itself. as soon as it was 'officially' revealed what he sustained, i was just about certain he was done for the year (and consequently his career here) because i know first hand that these repairs aren't always the magic bullet everyone was downplaying...and you don't simply have surgery, rehab a few weeks, and you're good as new. reinjury from premature resumption of activities (especially something as violent as football) after these 'repairs' is reckless and a guaranteed ticket to chronic complications. take your time,do it the right way, and kick ass on sundays. all the very best to nick...
i wish him well.
Figured this was the outcome, can't blame him in any way! Sucks for us, but this is going to be the norm. This injury was more serious than thought. Good luck in the League!
One man that has a mind and knows it can always beat ten men who haven't and don't.
Best of luck Nick! Most of us totally understand your decision. Thanks for the memories!
16-2 is SWEET!
was afraid that this might happen.
Best of luck Mr. Bosa. Next man up
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Lame. So what's the difference between not playing because of injury and not playing because of fear of injury? Not sure how this helps his draft stock, and not sure how playing again this year (even if he does get reinjured)hurts his draft stock.
Well Michigan will finally get that much needed victory and save Harbaugh's job.
Sorry guys, this defense without Nick Bosa isn't winning a National Championship.
Back when Joey was here, I was salivating at the prospect of seeing him play opposite of Noah Spence, then Spence was dismissed.
This year it was supposed to be an unstoppable D line with Nick opposite Chase Young... Well I was putting up with watching this atrocious defense because I knew Nick Bosa would be back at some point.
This type of stuff makes me sick. What is up with football players these days being afraid of risking injury?
The only players' draft stock that would be affected by injury are players on the bubble anyway. Nick Bosa could blow his ACL tomorrow and still be taken 1-5, NFL teams would be stupid to pass on him.
Well so much for the Brotherhood, Nick. I'm not wasting any more time watching this team, it's too painful watching our defense make every QB look like Peyton Manning, and knowing they have no shot to beat Alabama now just took the wind out of the sails...
Maybe next year.
Crazy, I don't think Nick Satan has these issues and he's got 5 star back ups...
Seattle Buckeye, Green Tony
We are gonna go 15-0 and you are gonna feel bad.
Do you take the "glass three-quarters empty" approach to every bit of adversity in life or just unfortunate news for your favorite college football team?
Like so many Buckeye fans, I'm bummed about Nick Bosa being done at Ohio State already but I understand why he's doing it. He's been a class act ever since he set foot on campus and I wish him the best. Selfishly, I'd love to have him back for the stretch run to win it all but know that his NFL career is more important to him than winning a national championship for the Buckeyes. Best of luck at the next level Nick. Next man up!
Next Bosa up?
Damn. Weak sauce (for us). Winning a Natty without Bosa seems a long shot because he was the most disruptive force in the college game. He’s going to drop in the draft without coming back and showing on the field he’s still got it, but probably not too far. The second contract for guys like him & Joey are going to be the monster paydays compared to their rookie contracts, but I understand the decision. Good luck to him going forward, will be rooting for him in the league just like I do with his brother. Wish we could get one of them in Nola we could use a major baller on the d-line. Need Cooper to get back healthy and ball out and get some young guys more reps and experience so they’re ready to take it to the next level if we make the CFP. This hurts but is not even close to a death blow for the Bucks.
The only possible positive I see is few see Ohio State seriously competing for a national title now that Bosa is out. Many believe Michigan will win this year. This will be an opportunity for the team to step up to the challenge. Hope they come out with renewed focus and intensity on the field...especially on defense. GO BUCKS!!!
I have a question that came to mind that I honestly couldn't give myself an answer to: Should Nick Bosa be recognized as an Ohio State captain moving forward?