Purdue Week Mic Check: On The Defense

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Crumb's picture

Maybe I'm just too doom and gloom this year but this both excites me and scares me. Seems like we feast with turnovers or starve in pass defense. I hope to see changes Saturday, or we'll get bit sooner or later. 

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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BuckNutChicago's picture

We're likely going to lose a game at some point this year.  It happens (almost) every year (see every other year as an example... with every school).  It might be a bit unrealistic to have perfection as the standard and having that standard has made my game watching aggravating at best and downright depressing at worst.  Which is sad... So, I am going to try to enjoy Saturday night from start to finish, regardless of the score and final result. (just win the damn game)

Go Buckeyes!!!

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Crumb's picture

Well, if we got to lose one, of the remaining schedule, I think I'd pick this Saturday as opposed to any others. That said I hope the very rare, of undefeated happens. Like I always do. 

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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PRO8's picture

Don't look now but @ Maryland could be another trap game when many will be looking ahead  to finish the season against the Mitten state teams... 

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Crumb's picture

That's why, and I remind you I'm NOT hoping for this outcome, it would be better to lose to Purdue than Maryland, they aren't in the division. 

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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dwcbuckeye's picture

Anybody ask him if they plan on moving their LB back in a zone (standard 4-3 look) versus having them at the line all the time?  They certainly are not plugging the run gaps at the line and they leave the entire middle open for the slant.  Seems such an odd strategy especially so when the FOX announcers are calling the play before it is snapped.  

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buckeyepastor's picture

Agree.   If the LBs at the line were stuffing the opponent run game, I could see it.  But all it seems to accomplish more often than not is taking them out of position to find the ball and make a play.  Backing them off doesn't mean they're abandoning run defense duties, and in fact allows them the vision to better find where the ball is going.   And, it allows them to occupy those throwing lanes over the middle. 

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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brutus0717's picture

I'm convinced this is a large piece of the puzzle as well. The LBs are 1 yard off the line of scrimmage, and the safeties start 10+ yards deep and backpedal immediately off the snap on almost every play. That leaves about 15 yards of wide open space for a slanting receiver or a RB who has broken through the LOS. Seems like a bad idea to me.

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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BuckZealot's picture

That's a great insight, seems like a simple fix, but it sure sounds like it would address 2 problems, getting burned with the slant and the constant(seems constant to me) problems with out of position linebackers.....

Enjoy the wins over *ichigan, ....I still remember the dark days of the 1990's....

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

This has been well discussed in the Kyle Jones write up earlier this week. TL;DR is that our current philosophy is called "havoc". It is about letting the DL shine/dominate so putting LBs up to the line creates one-on-one matchup looks that both confuse the OL and keeps them guessing on who blitzes and let's our DL wreak "havoc"... This goes hand in hand with Urban's comment that the DL needs to do more ...

So the philosophy was based on having supreme confidence in LJ and his unit rather than the Heacock/Fickell philosophy of letting the LBs be the cleaner uppers...

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

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MassiveAttack's picture

Should the defense drop to playing Nickel or Dime against Purdue?  They do have a decent run game.

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Huskerbuck's picture

Hope coach finally gets to see the positives he is looking for.  We the fans also hope to see several giant steps forward with the "D" and the running game.

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ronaprhys's picture

Getting a few starters back for the entire game should help (is there a hopeful font?  Because I need a hopeful font right now).  I believe this game will be a better judge for how our defense will play going forward.

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bd2999's picture

I imagine that at some point they have to drop one of the LBs back into more of a zone in the middle to make those slants more dangerous to try. As those are killer. Playing the LBs at or near the line has been strange to me. I get the blitz and confuse the QB but it seems they often get caught up and do not cover their gaps. At this point, just seems like it would be better if they play a bit back and play the ball. Plug their run gaps and take away short passes. Since the more aggressive approach is not really working consistently with this team.

But what do I know?

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brutus360's picture

Man, those field goal stats by opposing teams jump out. Luck only goes so far.

"Age wrinkles the body, quitting wrinkles the soul" Woody Hayes

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Trebor40's picture

I can only hope that Wade is featured prominently - We do NOT blitz the Linebacker on the SAME side as the slot, and Brandon Bowen plays guard while D. Knox rests for other opportunities and Prince sees a sports psychologist instead of the BACK of D-Linemen on their way to Haskins and rolling up Munford's ankle! 

Regarding our running game, wait we have on- Those issues will be given a better chance if the O-Line has the changes I believe most on the staff can see, Bowen was one of the best 5 prior to his injury and if he is FULLY healed he is likely to be one of the best 5 again! 

I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk

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Chic'sGhost's picture

All the Chicken Little stuff going on, and the defense is statistically better than 2014 and we all know what happened that year.  I think they will get better. 

"You're welcome for the house I built."

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kmp10's picture

The linebackers either cannot or will not fill gaps. Period. I thought I must be missing something there, but then I heard Laurinaitis and Richardson on the radio this week and they were stupefied by the linebackers' poor play. Jay Richardson said the defense is "not a good unit," and that although Haskins has the ability to carry the team into the playoff on his arm, if they get there it'll be in spite of the defense. He went on to say the d-line is underperforming and getting 'blown off the LOS,' and the DBs never physically challenge the receivers despite not having to adhere to anything like the NFL's 5 yard chuck rule. The stats are what they are... but this defense does not look good, and two former Buckeye defensive standouts publicly said so just this week. I'm not sure how anyone can watch that unit and come away feeling hopeful about the direction in which its headed. Laurinaitis said the defense 'is what it is at this point in the season,' so I wish I knew what was leading you (and plenty others) to think you're going to get a better product moving forward. I think it's entirely on the offense this Saturday night, because I expect the defense to get gashed. I hope to hell I'm wrong, but they've given me zero reason to believe they're gonna go out and ball, and I'd be even more concerned except that the o-line's inability to run block worries me more than the defense, and that's really saying something. 

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JSH0717's picture

Alright I gotta vent! Stop discrediting the Pryor interception unless you can justifiably tell me you know wtf happened. As a former coach here’s what I saw, 2 high pre-snap roll to cover 1B roll weak, with a boundary cat (corner blitz).  Pryor was the field safety, opened toward the middle of the field to play as the post player, read QB eyes and had to speed turn (center field turn, whatever your terminology is) back to make that make play. QB made correct decision on the inside go route and when first releasing I thought it was a touchdown. Great call Minnesota, bad coverage by Werner, and great play by Pryor. Sure the QB could have held Pryor in the MOF for a beat longer, but Pryor not only did his job but made a super athletic play to get over the top, INT good guys. 

Sorry for the rant, I’m not oblivious the guy and others need work. I have seen too many people lately getting on their own team for what they do wrong and then when they do something right as if the world just happen to align for  him to get that pick. His speed turn will most likely be on the coaches upcoming teach tape on how drills translate to the field. 

Rant completed, proceed with your normally scheduled game weekday routines. Go Bucks, *uck *ichigan! 

GO BUCKS!

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CanadianBuckeyeEh's picture

That's a great analysis.  If we're going to share the responsibility / blame when players make mistakes, we need to point out when and how (and why) when they make great plays, too.

Go Bucks!

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brutus360's picture

Eh, I second my Canadian Buckeye brother. Thanks JSH.

"Age wrinkles the body, quitting wrinkles the soul" Woody Hayes

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OnPoint's picture

My eyes say our D is bad, really bad, but the stats say we are okay. 

Nut on top

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albrnick's picture

Sadly enough I agree.. I feel this is the most "human" / down to earth team we've had under Urban.  The defense really feels like a "Luck Run Out" sort of thing.  Eventually luck will run out..  Still love my Bucks though! :)

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Markos's picture

We'll see a LOT of this Saturday night  if the defense is not prepared to stop Rondale Moore! 

Markos

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