Where’s the Tempo

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iowabuckeyes's picture

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With all our talent, we should be wearing teams down. It’s the same as it’s ever been, another hollow offer. Uptempo, two back sets, throw to the TE, special Martell packages...all these broken promises and squashed dreams. Urban’s assembling a herd of unicorns.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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mittenst8buck's picture

I know where you are coming from but as someone who played sports for many years and played with guys that went to OSU and to the NFL let me say this...people often get talent confused with an overwhelming ability to just wear everyone out. Yes we have depth but there is only so much rotation you can do and people get worn out no matter how talented or what kind of condition you are in...we are all human and guys playing for the Buckeyes get tired just the same as those playing for the opponent. And the coaches job is to coach players during the game to win the games and thus far Urban and company has executed that as well as Nick Saban, Dabo Swinney, Brian Kelley or any of the other undefeated coaches. Currently we are having trouble running the ball so we are passing a ton...we could try and force more runs and lose games but our staff knows currently the pass is the strength so we play to it. No different than last year when the pass wasn't the best so we relied heavily on the run with a mobile qb. Also our defense is really not playing all that bad...we have been shutting down teams when it matters most...and at the end of the day that is really all you need from game to game. So I wouldn't say there are a bunch of broken promises, just things may not be going the exact way as the fans have expecte...which is life. But hey...we are 7-0 and I'm cool with that.

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Actually, this past Saturday the TEs seemed to be inventory involved more than they had been in a long time.  I know Berry had a few catches that I remember, and Farrell had a long one down the sideline.  

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NHBuckeye's picture

Farrell also had a nice grab on 4th down to move the sticks.  

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

No idea what inventory involved is, but hoping it catches on...

You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton

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Dasniksder's picture

I wouldn't be in a huge hurry to put our defense back on the field. I doubt that is the reason for the slower play but it is a consequence of playing fast.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I respectfully disagree. We’re running empty backfield sets but with Dobbins or Weber still on the field but lined up outside so our personnel isn’t changing, which allows us to keep the defense from substituting, which forces them to adapt to our formations with the players they have on the field. Uptempo allows our offense to get into a rhythm. If we want to keep our defense off the field, it means running the football more, which I believe we have a better chance of doing by exhausting their DLs and forcing their DBs to defend the run and their LBs to defend the pass. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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cmillertime247's picture

Yeah we saw first hand the damage an uptempo offense can do by TCU. Unfortunately no one was taking notes obviously.

Go for two only because you can't go for three

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Dashoe's picture

Tempo slowed down once Urban came back. It’s odd because Urban usually like fast tempo. Im lost on this one 

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CptBuckeye24's picture

There was a lack of tempo in 2016 and 2017 for most of the season. I vividly remember many of us, myself included, bitching about the lack of tempo. It was refreshing to see earlier this season.

I get maybe getting away from tempo against Penn State and just maybe see it against Indiana if we didn't practice well and have a slight hangover effect from the Penn State. But not to run it against Minnesota is just ridiculous

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WezBuck28's picture

Urban has went away from tempo for some reason..I remember his first year at the help, we went for 2 rather than kicking an extra point...playing aggressive..but he's just not the same..still a great coach, but I think he just needs to trust his assistants and let them do their job..offense was humming with day filling in for Urban, granted who we were playing anyway..

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Atl_Buckeye72's picture

Completely agree with this. Meyer has gotten conservative to a fault. There is a marked difference in the play calling between the first few games and since he's been back. Not that anyone whose watched OSU in the past 3 years needed this as an example

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brutus0717's picture

I think they noticed the running game struggling a few games back and decided that the offense has to eat up clock any way they can. Playing an aggressive D scheme will always open a team up to the big play, and keeping them off the field is the only way to minimize that. And I'll add, to this point the offense is performing fine, regardless of a lack of running game. One component we're missing from last year's team is JTBIV. We didn't want to throw the ball as much, so the running game accounted for 40-45 plays per game. We didn't always establish a great running game early, but by the end of games we had wore their D down.

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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e135800's picture

Where are the 3rd and short packages for Nate?

 

 

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DroneBuck's picture

There’s an extra headset in the mix now. The last line of communication wants to know the who/what/when/where & why of every single playcall.

 In his mind this ‘check with me’ process takes a fraction of a second, but in reality it kills the whole flow of the offense. 

It’s tough for a control freak to completely take his hands off the steering wheel. It’s even tougher for others to tell him it’s time to let go, especially when the man has won 3 NC’s.

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703Buckeye's picture

Where's the tempo!?

"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter

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southbay's picture

Thanks, I needed a laugh this morning.

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buckeyeinthechi's picture

For the past 3 seasons, the tempo was left in spring/summer camp...you know, when the talk was "how much faster our offense is than last year".

Staring at the sideline for 20 seconds half the series is getting old.

There are three different types of people in the world.....those who can count, and those who cannot.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

I honestly think there is fear on the part of Urban Meyer, going tempo, and not taking your time, etc. I think he worries that if the offense gets going to fast there will be mistakes.

I say you line up in a tempo offense, you know you're probably going to  be fielding more talent than the opposing defense, and you pull the rip chord and go.

Tough to say why they got away from it, but I think it would a welcome addition to the offense the rest of the way.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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DarrylJenks's picture

IMO tempo is killing our running game and not allowing the O-line to set up and find their block pre-snap.  Tempo in the run game only works if the O-line is executing at peak level, that is not the case right now.  A few run plays last weekend got stuffed because the defense was not lined up and the o-line didn't know who to block.  Slow it down, get back to fundamentals, let our young hog mollies find their read pre-snap and our run blocking will catch up to our pass blocking.

Darr

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southbay's picture

Then maybe our running game is killing our tempo?

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bd2999's picture

Not sure why people care that much. So long as the team is scoring. The issue with temp is if you do not get first downs it is over. I also feel this team scores in enough of a hurry already.

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

The defense cannot get off of the field so the offense seems to slow down to give the defense a chance to rest. Otherwise, I am perplexed. 

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Belliott's picture

The defense is dealing with a ton of injuries right now. You don’t really go tempo and further wear down those guys. It’s a long season and you want them as fresh as possible. 

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AzBuckeye45's picture

Very good point. 

"Cause I couldn't go for three!"
Woody Hayes-1968

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gobucks96's picture

Personally, I'd almost say they are still experimenting on what works. This offense hasn't clicked the last few weeks. Look out if they get it straight!

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ChazBuckeye's picture

Can't run up tempo if you can't effectively run the ball...

It is time!!!!!

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DowntownBuck's picture

The offense has looked quite different since Urbs came back. You can see his influence as Haskins has had a few QB runs which never happened except in scrambling situation when Day was leading the way.

I think our ultimate dream would be for Urbs to become a Figure Head much like Bowden/Paterno were the last few years; the day didn't "gameday coach". He can recruit, give the inspirational speeches and roam the sidelines...BUT let the coaches coach. Let Day run the offense...it was exciting the fist couple weeks.

Those who stir the shit pot should have to lick the spoon.

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fishleehooker's picture

Tempo is great for scoring.  But you score fast, give the ball back to your opponent and trot your back out.   Its great for a few series, but you just can't sustain it. To further this, we have played TCU and PSU in night games that tested our mettle, then had pretty tough games against Ind and Minn.  We can't wear our team out. It is a long season and we have a by week coming up. At some point you'll see tempo, but even in 2014, we only used tempo really during the playoffs and against Wiscy.  When we had a break comin up or were coming off a long break.  I almost guarantee you won't see it against Purdue unless we feel urgency or are behind. 

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milhouse4588's picture

The Urban Meyer effect. Ryan Day in charge meant we went tempo to keep the defense on their toes. With Urban back in the driver's seat we've gone back to letting the D get set up.

Only saving grace this year is we have a QB who can sling it.

To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.

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cledaybuck's picture

Why weren't we running more clock when were up 9 in the fourth with the ball.  Keels and Lachey sounded confused about that on the radio.

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