Running Back Reset: Looking at Ohio State's Top 2019 Options Following the Sampson James Decommitment

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Really like the look of Kenny McIntosh. He has some Teague-ish size, the weight room won't rebuild him, it will just further develop what it seems he's already started.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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Dstacify's picture

Alford's success with RBs since he's been here should be a draw in and of itself. That and Meyer has consistently had RBs produce at a high level in this offense. Finding the next big game-breaker at that position shouldn't be a huge challenge. Let's get er done.

11 Strong.

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CreekBuck's picture

Makes you wonder how long Alford sticks around.  He came to tOSU to be a HC, not at tOSU but somewhere.  He needs to be an OC first. Which makes me wonder how many OCs are brought in and he not be bothered by not gettig the chance?

You win with people.

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Defiance's picture

So a little off topic but since we're talking commits and decommits, let's talk about the Ohio State wins the game effect:

We roll into Happy Valley and win a hard fought battle on the road in front of the largest crowd ever at Happy Valley. All seems right in the world and then Strange commits to PSU shortly afterwards. He had both OSU and PSU in his list of offers but goes with the team that tOSU just beat.

Fast forward a week and now it's IU coming into The Shoe and giving the Buckeyes more of a game than we thought they might. Same effect though but this time it's a decommit from James and he immediately commits to IU in the wake of tOSU beating them.

What am I missing guys? Am I just reading too much into it?

I get it, if a player wants to come play at tOSU then great. If not then best of luck and all but is this the post-ZS hangover? Do prospects now see UFM and tOSU in a different light? What's with tOSU beating a team on the field and then losing the recruiting battle?

What gives?

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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ChazBuckeye's picture

It's a typical knee-jerk reaction that tends to happen these days from the younger kids  (not trying to blame it all on the generation, but it does stand to reason). Or quite possibly, James just wanted to stay closer to home.

I'm doubting much of it had to do with OSU's performance vs IU and TCU, as opposed to the off the field stuff with Urban and how kids change their minds like changing underwear these days. It's a "get it at an instant" generation. We want it NOW! So, perhaps that has something to do with it. Hell...I don't really know lol!

It is time!!!!!

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NHBuckeye's picture

The younger brother to IU is something that I hadn't heard before.  I'm sure that played a pretty role into this.  Good for James.  OSU will be fine.  If we land one of these guys mentioned (or Sanders) we will be even better.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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Major H's picture

The Buckeyes need to offer the younger brother just to make things interesting!

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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ScarletGray43157's picture

Back when there were no scholarship limits, that is exactly what would have happened. 

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

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Nutinpa's picture

Is someone telling recruits (with some of them believing it) that Meyer's offense, under Day and Wilson, is transitioning to a "pass first" offense, thereby diminishing the RB role?  Yes, sounds crazy, even as I type it, but you never know.  But yes, at OSU of all places, you'd think elite RBs would be lining up to sign.  Also...is it me.....or is anyone from OH, MI, PA or anywhere nearby even interested? 

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SomeoneNew's picture

From what I've read, the outcome of these games (provided it's not a blowout) matters very little in a recruit's choice.  In fact, losing coaches can use it to their favor.

"YOU can be the difference in games like this.  With YOU, we can WIN these."

What day is this?

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MiamiBuckeye's picture

I think if the PSU-OSU game had any effect at all on Strange's decision (likely he'd already made up his mind), it was probably him being wowed by the atmosphere of the White Out. If that's the case, it wouldn't have mattered if we'd beaten them by three touchdowns, he was probably going to become a Nittany Lion. 

"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."

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Uncle G's picture

However, if we had been up by three touchdowns at the half, or something like that, the white-out would have lost much of its effect.

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KillerNut's picture

It seems possible to me that we are wearing Scarlet colored glasses when thinking about this.

Most of these guys didn’t grow up rooting for TOSU as kids; in fact they actively rooted against us in a lot of cases. So you get a guy on a visit and sure, most of them are super impressed with campus and the facilities, the coaches, the atmosphere, etc. and the win pushes them closer. But for some I could see the draw of Ohio State decreasing with game visits because it’s such a familiar feeling to root against us. You see a game where you are internally rooting for TOSU to lose, then you think about what it would be like to make the play that wins the game for PSU, IU, tsun, etc. And that’s a feeling that resonates with you.

I will take the perks of rooting for the giants of the CFB world with sometimes losing a recruit to visions of personal glory in beating us if that is the cost.

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'57Champs's picture

I believe Birm has very tentatively tossed out that Trey Sanders could be this years NPF.  This was before the Sampson news.

Because I couldn't go for 3.

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Txsbuckeye's picture

So.... James is Carman? And Finkle is Einhorn?

#TheBuckeyesAgainstTheWorld

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WildBear Buckeye's picture

Yesterday I had a twitter exchange with Birm about Trey Sanders:

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Hoosierbuck7's picture

McIntosh already stated he's not open to the Buckeyes post-James...

LINK: https://247sports.com/Article/RB-Kenny-McIntosh-makes-decision-on-Ohio-State-Buckeyes-123081266/

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” - Urban Meyer

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Defiance's picture

VIP paywall on the linkage HB7.

Can you give us the abridged version?

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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Hoosierbuck7's picture

Just that he told Alford, "thanks but no thanks." He's sticking to his top 8. 

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” - Urban Meyer

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Andrew Ellis's picture

Yeah, saw that. That's why I was hesitant to include him. Figured it was at least worth mentioning with the Battle connection and the early interest that was there for a bit. 

Northern Nevada Buck's picture

McIntosh notified OSU that they should move on...so to speak...he's got the 8 whittled down...but...you never know till you know.

"Give your dream an aspiration date."

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NHBuckeye's picture

Yeah.  Yesterday Bill Greene said that McIntosh has family in Youngstown and that he and his family were very high on OSU early on.  Maybe he got offended when they took Steele as the 2nd guy and has written us off completely.   We'll find out soon enough I guess.

Fields of Dreams

 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Right. Like who knew Sampson James was going to bail until he did? It sounds like that decision caught everyone off guard, including the staff, since he did it within hours of visiting, which tells me he knew coming in he was leaning toward Indiana and was using this trip as Ohio State's last chance to convince him to stay. Which it didn't because the staff probably didn't know he was wavering. Just one more example of recruiting doesn't end with a verbal commiment.

I have nothing against Noah Cain and would be more than happy to have him but if forced to choose, I'm a big Deondrick Glass fan. Five games into his senior season for one of Texas's top programs and #6 ranked team, he's got 1,060 yards and 13 TDs on 111 carries (212 ypg, 9.6 ypc, a TD every 8.5 carries). He put up 397 yards and two TDs on 37 carries in a 31-28 win in week 2. Katy's only loss was 35-21 to Texas's #2 ranked team (Houston North Shore, which is top-ranked 2020 RB Zachary Evans's team) and he had 148 yards and a TD in that game.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Urbane Meijer's picture

I just wonder if he came in to ask "Will you offer my brother?" and didn't get the answer he hoped for.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Glass would be a great get.  And quite an upgrade over James IMO. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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Buckfrombirth's picture

When I first saw the splash page headline, I read it as “Running Back Arrest”.  I guess I just got conditioned to bad news after that stupid off-season.  Phew!

I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.

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BuckNutChicago's picture

I expect to see some flipping over to the good guys in the coming months.  I'm not concerned.

Go Buckeyes!!!

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Defiance's picture

As I've seen it written and heard other say many times:

If you're on board with The Buckeyes than get all the way on board!

If not, best of luck and Happy Trails and all that jazz!

It does no good worrying about the one that got away or dwelling on what might/could have been.

Class of 2019 has a solid foundation and if we know one thing about UFM, it's 

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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NoFancyUserName's picture

When James committed I was shocked....when he decommitted I wasn't surprised at all.

You're either at the table, or on the menu!!

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DdougOSU's picture

This recruiting cycle seems way more odd than in recent years and im sure all of the UFM/ Zach Smith stuff has something to do with it. I hope we get back to some BOOMS soon i miss the gifs

humpty hump

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gobucks1966's picture

We will be great just not elite this year recruiting wise. I heard that before some place?

Denny

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

Disagree, we have some elite players. I don't know why everybody bases class rankings on being elite, great etc. Superb, as I mentioned before, we are #3 in avg rating per recruit.

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

We control our destiny as long as we stay undefeated. Interest will increase as we battle for a top 4 finish. NSD is early February and championship is early January. Just improve and win.
Mr. Gill could be quality RB depth as well.

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TraptnMI's picture

Milton or bust. I’m good with this unless Cains’ continued dialogue holds up and he commits sooner than later. All out recruiting on Milton until then.

" It's real good whatcha done Anthony, real good ! "

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TraptnMI's picture

Wrong year, my bad. Milton and Tyree or bust. Lol. #2020

" It's real good whatcha done Anthony, real good ! "

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jcposu's picture

I wouldn’t mind seeing us get in on John Bivens out of Dayton, I think he’s underrated and is going to be a very good football player. I’m also a little disappointed that the staff hasn’t gone after Rodas Johnson at DT/OL out of De Sales, kid is a baller and is going to come back to play against us in the B1G. 

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TraptnMI's picture

John’s a load with good speed and is fairly elusive. Thx for the referral. Enjoyed his highlights 

" It's real good whatcha done Anthony, real good ! "

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