I know Chase is still very young (no pun intended) and raw. He does need to take that high energy motor and carbon copy LiL Bear who frequently makes tackles down field. There is a reason he might be the top pick in the draft.
Agree with you observation Brutus
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I've been thinking the same thing.....lack of effort after the play is by him. Hope he works on it. NFL scouts are watching........... play for pride, which should earn him some dough down the line.
If this is becoming a trend than the coaches will alter his mind set so he goes 100% til the whistle without jeopardizing the team.
I do wonder if it's already affecting his PT. Before Bosa got hurt, Cooper played 4 series in a row. Chase came in during obvious passing downs, but was not on the field for 1st and 2nd down.
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I actually noticed the same thing.
I've noticed the same thing, he very rarely stands out. He kind of reminds me of Jabrill Peppers and Rashon Gary.
They don't call him Chase You 2-4, A-B ng for nothing.
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I've thought the opposite about Chase. In the first two games he was playing way too aggressive and overly energetic and as a result he was jumping offsides and getting himself ejected for trivial reasons. I've never questioned his effort at all. I think he tried to tone down his emotion a bit in this game since this was a much more challenging matchup and it could've come across as lack of effort at times as a result. He was lauded for his work during camp.
I don't question his excitement at all, but mistakenly coming on to the field to celebrate an INT with your teammate and hustling back on a play are two different things.
They are. Chase is young and didn't play a whole lot last year and right now I think Jonathon Cooper is slightly ahead of him in terms of maturity and seasoning (Cooper did play more snaps last season). I just hope you're not using this piece to tell people we should have no faith in him. There's no argument for that IMO.
I just hope you're not using this piece to tell people we should have no faith in him.
Oh God no. I just think he needs to play with more effort outside of chasing down the QB, that's all. He has all of the talent in the world, and I'd hate to see him waste it by not being the best player he can possibly be.
Agreed. All of the edge rushers not named Bosa could use a little work in containment on running plays. There have been some issues there and Chase isn't the only one. I have faith in LJ though.
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I haven’t seen that yet, Brutus, but I honestly haven’t been paying that much attention. My sense, and only my sense, is that he should have bigger numbers given the emphasis on Bosa. Plus, his overagressiveness at pursuing the QB has, at times, hurt the team to the tune of some big running plays from loss of gap integrity. I’m no D-line coach, so I’ll default to LJ’s (MUCH BETTTER) judgment, but it’s just what I’ve seen from the comfort of my couch. Perhaps he’ll turn in some outstanding games now that Nick is out. We’ll see.
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Have to agree - much like Isaiah Prince a couple of years back - all world on one play and then take a play off .... He's playing like his only job is to get to the QB, whereas, Little Bear is a more complete defender, as he is very active in the run game ....
What's the point of having 5* talent if you don't half ass it most of the time?
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This comment should be getting more love.
I find it weird you deem it necessary to defend the other players by calling others out, but hey...
Haven't noticed it though.
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I wasn't defending anyone, just making the point that even though Chase is very highly regarded around here doesn't mean he can't be criticized. Mack and Jordan (and the pair of young safeties) deserve all of the criticism they have been receiving too.
If he's motivated to be the best, he'll figure it out soon. Like any young player, at some point you need to decide if you want to take it to the next level......if not, others will pass him by.
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True, everyone deserves an adjustment period. I would have thought he would have figured it out by his second year, though. He's had great examples in Hubbard, Lewis, Bosa et al.
Valid Point- He is following some of the best. Sometimes the younger players also try too hard and make additional mistakes trying to excel. I think he may be doing that to some extent. He has the talent and a great coach in Johnson, so if he listens closely and pays attention, he can make additional strides this year. He has a window of opportunity with Bosa out for a bit and he should prepare to show some of that.
If you noticed(I did too) LJ Sr. noticed too.
Every Sunday they watch the game video and LJ is focusing on and grading his 4 on the field for every snap. No way in hell would he miss any such lack of effort. And if LJ thinks he loafs, I'm sure he'd be in Chase's grill about it. If Chase didn't respond to such coaching, I've got to believe he'd be standing on the sideline a lot more than he does.
At any rate, I'll never know as much as LJ about coaching DL or any player-specific performance issues. So I'll let the expert (and recognized best in his business) handle it.
My feelings exactly.
I think he is just slow diagnosing running plays at times, gets caught in the wash and is quite behind the play
Watch the Oregon State game in 30 minutes or less. Starting at about 19:00 minutes. I think his motor wears out pretty fast. I say that with complete humility.
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And that could very well be the reason.
Werner did the same thing even though he got blocked out of the play.
Isn't it interesting that we have given up as many points since beating Oregon State as we gave up to Oregon State? And one of those teams, it actually isn't necessarily wrong that we gave up 28 points.
That's a Buckeye touchdown!
Yeah, it was not surprising that TCU scored. I think the long run bothered me more than the deep pass did, although both did. If they drive the length and score, that is something. I feel big plays hurt more. It happens, but just happened a bit too much.
I think what bothered me more was initially the lack of adjustments to deal with TCU's game plan, which you could predict coming a mile away.
I've already nicknamed him Lil' Clowney
Ouch. Not giving effort is something I despise, so I hope he turns it around very soon.
I don't necessarily mean a complete lack of effort, just that the dude is soooo talented and physically imposing that when he doesn't go hard, it stands out. You'll see him make some sick plays, and then he just doesn't show up or it doesn't look like he's going full speed for a few plays. Maybe he's gassed, maybe it's effort, maybe he loses focus... I don't know. But Clowney is/was like that. However, I think we can all agree that we hope Chase shows up next year ready to take over the college football world in his Junior year, unlike Clowney who coasted his way into the draft.
Still he is a sophomore. He may be just putting it all together. He is not Nick or Joey and he has shown flashes, otherwise nobody would be talking about him and he wouldn't have played as a freshman. The hope is that he will put it all together and soon. I don't believe he is a Jadaveon Clowney but more like a Darren Lee type. Once he gets it all together, he is going to be something. Just stand by, it's coming.
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Maybe hustle's the reason Cooper's been on the field for the opening snap three games in a row.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that's noticed this. He has unbelievable talent, but I don't think he has the drive the Bosa's have, at least not yet.
I said above I'm hoping he figures it out, but I worry that "drive" is something that is just within you. Hopefully LJ Sr can pull it out of him.
Whatever the reason, I must say that chase Young has been the biggest disappointment of the season so far. He got a couple of sacks against inferior teams but disappears for long stretches and is totally absent against the run. His impact has been minimal. Definetely not looking like a top NFL prospect. Looking more like a guy who should see the field less. With. OSA out of course that will not happen, but he was been very underwhelming.
I noticed the offensive line getting lazy several times Saturday stood around as the running back was being gang tackled what happened to pushing the pile?
Noon games suck
Sometimes these Young Predators try to rely on their freaking laser beams attached to their head instead of good old fashioned hustle.
All joking aside you are spot on. I’ve noticed if the play is the other way then his effort seems to be lacking. Hope someone gets in his ear since Bosa will be out for who knows how long and he steps up in his effort and leadership.
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100% agreement with the OP.
The kid has all the talent in the world, but needs a fire lit under his ass by LJ or Urban. He is DEFINITELY not going 4-6 A-B.
In comparison, watch Landers, Dremont, Bosa, and Cooper on any type of lateral, sideline to sideline play, and you'll see that these guys are getting coached up on the 4-6 culture.
Maybe he is having a let down from always being a step or 2 behind Bosa for the sack.
Well now is his chance. He will probably start and must be the guy to get pressure.
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I think youth and inexperience come into play here a lot, and there is a possibility Chase Young just needs to come back down to earth.
I've noticed his tendency to get too far upfield when in pursuit of the QB, and with our LBs struggling to shed blocks at times, it has left us open to get gashed (like the Oregon State game), and that worries me.
I genuinely feel like his issues aren't effort, but just learning the game at that level and what is asked of a DE in that type of setting. If effort were a problem, I have no doubt he'd be sitting on the bench.
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Inexperience, and perhaps having a superstar on the other end of the line, may have him over thinking things. He flashed more in the first game and a half, and started over pursuing and losing gap integrity which likely resulted in him getting a stern talking to from LJ. I believe he is still trying to get a feel for the game and will find his way soon. Once the light comes on he'll become a terror in the other teams backfield.
His lack of hustle may be born out of frustration and immaturity. Give him time.
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I think this is a very astute observation by the OP. I didn't really notice it, but having read your post and thinking back on the games so far this seems spot on.
Again it's not a huge knock like he's flat out not trying or anything, but I tend to agree he goes hard on the initial pass rush and then cools off a bit for the duration of the play.
I think we all know how good Chase can be and I have full confidence in him and Larry Johnson that this will be addressed, worked on, and improved as we move forward.
In his defense, he's not the only player who does it. In the 30-minute OSU v. OSU video on Youtube, Werner also did it at the 19-minute mark even though Werner got blocked out of the play and was more responsible for it than anyone else.
I think Chase will get it together. He's a physical specimen, but he's still learning. Cooper, who looked quite active against TCU, is ahead of him IMO.
The one play that bothered me: He got a flag for being offside, threw up his hands, and basically quit on the play. Like a flag = whistle. Um...it's a free play for the offense, don't let them make it a big one.