Making A List: Urban Meyer's Team, Recruiting Priorities As Full Head Coaching Duties Resume

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Get those snaps in Dwayne Haskins hands without him having to bend down and scoop it up.

Credit where it's due, Haskins didn't miss a beat, each bad snap he was down scooping it up and making plays.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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Buck68's picture

a remarkable demonstration of the salient difference between "focus" and "habit".

The latter approaches 'instinct', and something coaches try to build in our assignment execution once they install 'good habits'.

The former is a real-time, what is going on response...to 'what's happening NOW' !

Kudos to the demo from Haskins' responses to the snaps....

GO BUCKS!

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Andrew Ellis's picture

I almost included the snap issues. Only reason I didn’t was because I couldn’t recall it being that much of an issue prior to the TCU game. I could be mistaken though and it was a major problem on Saturday. 

Seattle Linga's picture

Harrison's recruitment would do wonders for this class considering all the challenges we've had over the last few months. 

Fixing the angles the LB's are taking would be a great addition. 

Focusing on Penn State !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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SoulPatrol32's picture

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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Buckeye Knight's picture

Urban said he only watched the "good plays" against TCU.  I REALLY hope he watches the bad ones, too.  So much to be learned about ourselves (players and coaches) and how future opponents could exploit certain weaknesses.

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Cptnvideo's picture

Gotta agree, BK.

My favorite team? Whoever is playing TTUN.

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bd2999's picture

I might have missed it but I assume he was talking about what he saw on TV. I know he said he had trouble watching the games that way. Meyer is not one to overlook areas that need improvement.

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Ostate84's picture

Somehow I think this may not be entirely truthful.

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Hovenaut's picture

You were right to lead off with the concern over giving up big plays on defense, and the needs from that back seven...

...and then closing with the focus on the Zach Harrison sweepstakes (and it's good to have The Closer back).

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LW O-H's picture

the Oregon State and TCU performances have raised all kinds of concerns regarding Ohio State's back seven.

 I am not a coach or anyone with ability to spot deficiency in a particular player position. But, I was noticing a lack of our backfield looking for the ball on long passes. In both games where we gave up huge plays, passes and runs, the offensive player had great speed. Speed creates a problem to keep up with the pass receiver and look for the ball. And for LB's to adjust quick enough to have a good angle to tackle. How to correct those problems? That's what coaches get paid for, to come up with a scheme to stop it. I am sure they are working on that as we speak. We can only wait and see the results.

 GO BUCKS!!

"The most important statistic, is the number of wins in a season".........Woody Hayes

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buckguyfan1's picture

Get Mr. Miyagi to work on Bosa's groin...

Simplify...

10-0 and a chance to go 11-0...

Beat psu

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buckeyeEddie27's picture

Phrasing

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

I Believe In Ohio State.

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Major H's picture

Uh, not sure of the "wax on - wax off" action, though!

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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BigBuckeye1976's picture

Or Jenna Jameson

BigBuckeye says Go Bucks
Muck Fichigan!!!

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Defiance's picture

All the things you mention PLUS the only thing on my personal list:

Quit apologizing and answering questions that aren't football related...

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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Mario_P's picture

I agree.  He spoke with the reporters and answered all of their loaded questions yesterday.  From now on that is in the past.   

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avail31678's picture

I would add to this list that Meyer should have a press conference with the media to discuss the latest released pictures, and answer lots of questions.

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Defiance's picture

I think you forgot your /s or italics, either would be fine.

Edited to read:

I think you forgot your /s or italics, either would be fine. /s

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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avail31678's picture

Figured it was so obvious it wasn't needed.

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Defiance's picture

That's a fair take. Guess maybe I should follow my own advice.

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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Cptnvideo's picture

/s ?

My favorite team? Whoever is playing TTUN.

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Defiance's picture

shorthand for sarcasm, same as italics

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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Cptnvideo's picture

I've noticed the italics quite a lot, but never noticed /s. Guess I will have to watch closer.

My favorite team? Whoever is playing TTUN.

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Defiance's picture

I think (which is often times my first mistake) that you'll see both from time to time but they mean the same thing.

The punctuation police will sometimes issue a citation if you use both but I'm not one to follow the rules, hence the username.

You can thank me later...

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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R79er's picture

Urban should now call another press conference to say once again that he does condone the use of the shorthand on any woman and if he knew about the citation police being called he would have fired Zach smith immediately, within seconds. /s

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Ostate84's picture

So a question here.  If you use italics, and the /s in the same post is it like a double negative?  Or is it a reinforcement that you are really just being sarcastic and want everyone to know about it.

Inquiring minds want to know.

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Defiance's picture

So I hear what you're saying here O84, such as where :

The sum of any integer and its opposite is equal to zero. Summary: Adding two positive integers always yields a positive sum; adding two negative integers always yields a negative sum. To find the sum of a positive and a negative integer, take the absolute value of each integer and then subtract these values.

IMHO, in this case though, it's actually a tautology:

A tautology is the opposite of an oxymoron, sort of. An oxymoron combines two contradictory terms, like jumbo shrimp. A tautology is unnecessary repetition of meaning, using different and dissimilar words that effectively say the same thing. It is saying the same thing twice when you don't need to.

So it doesn't actually change the end result of the statement, it just reinforces it to the next level. Hence:

 it's a reinforcement that you are really just being sarcastic and want everyone to know about it

Because you know, Internet feelings and all (no /s OR italics) 

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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Ostate84's picture

Thank you for making this clear as mud.

But what did I expect when I asked a smartass question.

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SaltyD0gg's picture

I'm thanking you now.

Pain of Discipline

Pain of Regret

Take Your Pick

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Defiance's picture

Happy to oblige... 

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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Buck298's picture

Hmmm, is this a definition of sarcasm, or sarcasm of sarcasm? 

Send the Earth Reverberating

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Dstacify's picture

New item for Urban. Develop a rapport with Haskins similar to what you had with JT. The kid's a special talent at QB and you are very lucky to have him.

11 Strong.

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DroneBuck's picture

Why? He gone in 3 months anyways. Thou barely knew thee. 

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Dstacify's picture

Because all coaches should have a healthy relationship with their QBs?

11 Strong.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Must.land.Harrison.   He is a difference-maker and playing time will be there for him next season. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

in addition the 5 star OT from WV and the 5 star WR from PA. Aim towards and fight to get the best players at every position.

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HawaiiBuck's picture

Fire Billy Davis, that needs to happen now.

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stpetebuck's picture

Nice spot for Chris ash next year

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HawaiiBuck's picture

I could be onboard with that.

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Dstacify's picture

Ash coached safeties when he was here, not LBs.

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Dstacify's picture

So you're advocating firing a bright young coach like Alex Grinch to bring Ash back? Grinch did good work as the DC at Wash St and he's essentially the DC-in-waiting right now when Schiano inevitably leaves for a head coaching job. Despite the struggles at safety to start the year (which is due to youth and inexperience more than anything) I don't want to see Grinch leave at all. Only defensive coach I think we can do without at this point is Bill Davis. If I were OSU I'd start courting Marcus Freeman out at UC and see what it would take for him to come back and coach at his alma mater. But I doubt Meyer would do that to his friend, at least right now. I wouldn't mind bringing Ash back at all as co-DC if Rutgers were to fire him but I wouldn't fire Alex Grinch to do it. And Ash and Grinch both coach safeties so there is that complication.

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stpetebuck's picture

Ash was co defensive coordinator in 2014.  Pretty good year. 

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stpetebuck's picture

And I’m kidding actually. Sorta 

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Dstacify's picture

I'm not against bringing Ash back. Not at all (this is assuming Rutgers fires him, their struggles are not entirely his fault and he has very little to work with in that program). I just don't want to show Alex Grinch the door to do it. If Schiano does take a HC job (return to Rutgers perhaps) I wouldn't mind bringing Ash back to oversee the entire defense like Schiano essentially is doing right now. Either that or have Grinch take that role next season if Schiano leaves and have Ash take on the co-DC title and coach the safeties. But even if all that happens we still have a Bill Davis problem. Which is why I'm suggesting we start courting Marcus Freeman to come back and coach at his alma mater.

11 Strong.

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Buck298's picture

#HireFickell

Send the Earth Reverberating

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Dstacify's picture

Fickell is doing good work at UC this year. They're not going to fire him anytime soon from that job if he keeps winning and I highly doubt he'd take a demotion to even return to OSU so that's definitely out of the question.

11 Strong.

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Buck298's picture

/s

Send the Earth Reverberating

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HYI3RID's picture

I believe Urban's first coaching job ever was coaching defensive backs. Please Please Please, work with our safeties not named Jordan Fuller. The angles we are taking to the ball are God awful and we aren't locating the ball in the air. If teams have to go on 10-15 play drives to score on us it's going to be very difficult for them because our D-line will cause havoc on at least one of those plays. Not much they can do with 80 and 90 yard scores.

Vires Et Honestas

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BucknutinNC's picture

Yup! Him and Schiano. And Taver Johnson with the CB's.

A.E. Porter

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Dstacify's picture

Considering Taver is partially responsible for Malcolm Jenkins' success here I have faith he'll get things turned around. I will say this about one of the DBs Arnette showed great resiliency last Saturday. He struggled in the first half but in the second it was like night and day for him. Thise oass breakups he had towards the end of the game were huge and killed TCU's chances of rallying.

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BucknutinNC's picture

I totally agree with you, I think Taver will do great things here. I also haven't been as down on Arnette as many have here, I really think his game has improved a lot since last year. I was just answering the question of whose jobe it is to fix the secondaries issues. Mostly the issues have really been with the safety that isn't Jordan Fuller in my opinion. However I think some of the struggles that Pryor and Wint have had are typical for first year starters who haven't had many reps. The mistakes they've made also look fixable. I do think though in tough games we may need to give Wade or Arnette a look at safety as they seem to be playing at a higher level than Wint and Pryor right now. Getting the best DB's period on the field together at the same time would help us a lot in games where it will matter. In games where we aren't in any danger Pryor and Wint can get a ton of reps and improve their games.

A.E. Porter

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Dstacify's picture

I thought Urban started out as a WRs Coach at Notre Dame under Lou Holtz? I could have my facts wrong though.

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BucknutinNC's picture

I know when he went to ND he was the WR coach, I'm not sure what he did or which group he worked with at Ohio State under Bruce as a GA? He was a DB when he played for the Bearcats. Pretty sure he was a safety.

A.E. Porter

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Dstacify's picture

I know he was at ND during their "golden years" when Holtz was HC. IIRC Holtz was the one who convinced him to take the BG head coaching job.

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BucknutinNC's picture

Yes sir, that is a fact! He credits Coach Bruce and Holtz for being huge influences in his life and his coaching career.

A.E. Porter

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BucknutinNC's picture

This actually got me curious enough to check it out, apparently after playing for UC, in 1985 he became a student coach for the Bearcats and Cincinnati St Xavier HS DB's coach, before coming to Ohio State where he worked with the TE for a season and then the WRs before heading to ND.

A.E. Porter

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bd2999's picture

Hard to argue with any of those.

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hetuck's picture

Urban's theme to recruits and parents should be my fault was one of excessive loyalty. If you come to Ohio State, I will work with you to become the best player and man you can be. If you stub your toe, I'll help you overcome it, albeit with some pain. There are certain lines, however, that can never be crossed. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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NerkBuck's picture

He has already done that, and he did it before his suspension started.

NerkBuck

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ohiopanda's picture

It's nice to play Tulane prior to heading to Happy Valley. Need to beat them - I don't see anyone else in the embarrassment of B1G play knocking off Penn State. 

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stxbuck's picture

"Have to win"-No. Just no.  Want to win the Harrison sweepstakes-absolutely. Bit of a silly look if he chooses elsewhere-yes. Radical change in the fortunes of the tOSU, PSU, or scUM program vis a vis one another regardless of his choice-absolutely not. The 11W staff should be smarter than to make comments like this, at this point in the program's history. Just sayin'.

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NerkBuck's picture

Urban has already taken care of solidifying current commits, including Battle. Harrison is not an impact recruit, IMO, and I see a very good TE, not a DE, in his future.

Job #1 for Urban is to have the sit down with Schiano/Davis/Grinch. Personnel and scheme changes are critical this week, their need amplified by the loss of Bosa, our best player and an underrated edge setting run stopper.

NerkBuck

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BuckeyeSouth's picture

Harrison is not an impact recruit, IMO, and I see a very good TE, not a DE, in his future.

You're kidding, right? 

Champions.  Undisputed.  

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Trebor40's picture

I believe this recruiting cycle is the greatest need just for appearance sake!  

I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk

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Zone's picture

On that 93 yard touch down look at Isaiah Pryors angle. It was atrocious.

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DroneBuck's picture

And on the other runs he makes no impact either. He usually shows up into the picture right as the play is over, often when the opponent is tumbling into the endzone. Look at the other TD runs.

#12 never even gets himself into positions where he can make a play on the ball-carrier until after they’ve already crossed the goaline. Might as well be playing with 10 men out there. Atleast then the rest of the D won’t falsely believe they have an 11th guy back there to help out

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fear_the_nut70's picture

I found everything in this piece to be spot on.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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Spider1944's picture

Recruits:

”Zach Harrison recruitment may very well be priority No. 1 for Meyer and the staff.”

it better be. A 280 lb high school kid that runs a 200 meters in tennis shoes in the low 22s is a super freak. 

Go Bucks!! 

"There are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad" - the Curse of Woody Hayes

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CreekBuck's picture

Me on recruiting news.

You win with people.

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BucknutinNC's picture

The to-do list should look like this:

Just Win! Everything else will take care of itself!

GO BUCKS!

A.E. Porter

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Buckeye_Tuck's picture

Urban needs to put his foot up a few tookuses on the defensive side of the ball.

It was great to hear that he was handing over play calling to Day and Wilson. They are in the zone!

Live from Nowhere in Particular....

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Mikus_Aurelius's picture

Harrison=Carman without the lip. 

I just can’t see him coming here. Appears as though it’s personal. 

A friend of mine is an OSU alum and has disdain for all things Ohio State. I see similarities here. 

I hope I’m wrong. 

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dalbuck's picture

Seeing as how we are playing with only one good safety, I think the best move at this point is to tell Jahsen Wint to go ahead and mug the receiver on long pass plays because he obviously has no defensive skills otherwise. I'll take a 15 yard penalty over a touchdown anyday. Why not give Proctor a shot? He can't be worse.

DB

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