TCU Game Notebook: Nick Bosa Suffers Injury, Austin Mack Battles Drops, Dwayne Haskins Runs For A Touchdown and Ryan Day Completes Head Coaching Tenure

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Buckabroad's picture

Wild game. 

1. Tip of my hat to TCU. They played an intense, fast, run-and-gun style that fully earned my respect. Very fast and spirited team that should make waves this season. 

2. Great W for the Buckeyes. They never lost heart and trusted eachother to turn around a hard game going inn the wrong direction in hostile territory. Please build Coach Day a statue. 

3. D-Line is the best in CF imo. Back 7? Maybe not quite. 

4. Ignoring penalties that lead to injuries in Players should be a criminal offense. 

On to Tulane! 

"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."

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Hondo's picture

Totally agree re:TCU. They came loaded. Great respect for the way the Texas Christians played. Except for the cheesy kickoff return.

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BucksHave7's picture

Buckeyes just beat what might be the B12 Champions. 

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BuckeyeDevil's picture

Yeah that kickoff thing was sandlot. It reminded me of playing football as a 9 year old: "you go over there and lay down and make them believe you aren't in the play, then I will throw it to you when they aren't paying any attention and you run as fast as you can."

I hate that kind of crap but it almost worked given Ohio State's propensity to focus on one half of the field every time on kickoffs. And when they didn't take the fair catch it kind of seemed like something was up their sleeve.

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

I think the whole world saw it coming when he was laying there before the kick. But even though it was successful, part of that was because he had to run full speed forward to get it. If it is actually lateral, he has no momentum and we have more time to react. We don't know how effective it might have been. Plus the guy throwing was toast if he hadn't thrown immediately when he did.

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

TCU's left tackle led both teams in tackles last night. Just a play or two after Bosa went out, he had a full out two arm take down. Blatant holding must called!

Mack is Ohio State's most reliable receiver. He will bounce back and be a huge part of the offense going forward.

Day is all class and quality. Thank you, coach.

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

Hill is OSU most reliable receiver.  Yesterday wasn’t the first game Mack has had drops, it was just the first game where he had so many.  Drops are drops regardless to who it is that drops them!

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LowCoBuckeye's picture

Hill is definitely the most reliable receiver and i don't think it's close.  Consistently get's open and sure hands.  The rest can disappear at times; Hill seems to be the one to "get it going" again more often then not.

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SpaceCoast's picture

Bosa's loss is serious, especially with Penn State in two weeks, and there are still too many big plays against us, but the fact that the D-Line has several other super-talented players was quite evident last night.  Kudos to the team for keeping its cool through adversity and hats off to Day, Schiano and the staff for a great first quarter of the season.

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BucksHave7's picture

Special teams was special.  Turpin is bigtime in the return game and we kept him in check.

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Frimmel's picture

Dru not getting enough props in the aftermath. Many good punts.

You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight. 

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Aside from the Bosa injury the Mack drop issues were the most disappointing problems of the game.

what a tough win. tcu came for a fist fight. Solid win 

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PhillyNut's picture

I am going with the secondary being right there but having no clue where the ball is.

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Schizo's picture

Exactly. It seemed like every 3rd and long their receivers would make a catch with two dudes covering them.

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Davep160's picture

TCU's wide receivers were excellent perimeter blockers. Their first half success started there.

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Frimmel's picture

They were holding as well. Saw them with arms outside the frame a couple of times.

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Davep160's picture

They were good at that as well.

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

Several of their "amazing catches in double coverage" also involved pushing off the defender to get separation. Which was never called either. The PI called on us, the wide receiver was also holding our guy for about 15 yards but the ref only saw one side of it.

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Davep160's picture

I do recall that.    I am looking forward to re-watching that game.   I am looking forward to tracking how many dropped passes caused punts.

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

That game seemed to have the perfect amount of adversity for the Bucks.

After turning over the leadership of their roster, the new guys filling those roles seemed to be ready for that next step; Haskins matured right before out very eyes, and plenty of coaching moments will be there for the film room - all with a critical W in their pockets.

The best part about being 3-0? The chance to be 4-0.

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osu78's picture

That game seemed to have the perfect amount of adversity for the Bucks.

Yes. It gave them a good solid test and revealed a few weaknesses that need to be fixed; at the same time they overcame their challenges and one. Tulane should be a good testing ground to prepare for Penn State. 

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infantrybuck's picture

Actually saw improvement in LB play last night minus warner, who looked lost at times.  Malik Harrison had a really good game. The Wint/Pryor safety situation is the most concerning position on the field going forward. Both of them look so slow and lost out there. I hope the coaching staff has the balls to give others a chance before it turns into 2013 Pitt Brown situation all over again.  Need to be better on 3rd and short also. That is the one area JT is missed

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mizzer's picture

During that long pass for a td Wint actually overran the receiver.  Had he known where the ball was he could have made a great play possibly even an interception. 

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BuckeyeBen7.7's picture

I actually thought Malik Harrison looked bad. He was in the right place a lot but he missed a ton of tackles.

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brutus0717's picture

And this is why I don't like ESPN. There they go, once again, creating the news. It's not just the fact that Bosa pointed directly at his junk when he was on the turf, but am I to believe that an OSU team doctor told Maria Taylor what the diagnosis was, violating student privacy rights and HIPPA laws? Stick to sideline reoprting. I'd much rather hear your ridiculous takes on football than listen to your rampant speculation. 

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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PhillyNut's picture

Brutus, when it comes to injuries to a player in a game they are not worrying about HIPAA and student privacy. Different rules apply to athletes. If it didn't then we would not even get the proverbial "upper body" "lower body" that is all the NHL teams ever give.

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bd2999's picture

It is not uncommon for this sort of news to be told to sideline reporters. It is going to be told to public eventually anyway. That it would be told is not a violation. Given we all watched it happen and the information would be given. 

I get that you hate ESPN, but be reasonable. Unless you want to focus on this and ignore all other cases where this is done. 

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brutus0717's picture

But more to the original, and only, evidence that Bosa was pointing directly to his groin. You're right, I shouldn't have singled out one media entity when they're all guilty.

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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Buckeyeincleveburg's picture

I was more offended they didn’t mention Bosa was hurt because he was tackled by the TCU player in uncalled holding (resulting in a third down conversion).  Hearing them you’d think Bosa slipped and hurt himself.

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irishfury's picture

I heard people complaining about the refs for us.  I couldn't believe it.  Bosa was tackled on a few plays and our WR where mugged.  

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Scarlet'n'Gray's picture

What a ball game. Go Buckeyes!!!

Rock ‘Em

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Canukbuck's picture

What a fantastic game !!  I am absolutely exhausted, as if I had played every down .....  The "W" was really important, but possibly more so, was the ability of the team to learn how to deal with digging themselves out of a hole, against a very good team, while fighting adversity (poor officiating, loss of a key player, dropped TD passes and the adversity which comes from traveling to another time zone).....

You could see the jitters from Dobbins, as he practically walked through his first few series.  But, as the game wore on, he started to revert back to running with purpose and reckless abandon, which made him so good last season.  The only thing that still remains a concern for me, is the lack of secondary speed.  That's two games now, where we failed to catch running backs who broke the line of scrimmage and scored long TD's.  We really have to eliminate these big plays for the opposition.

Although early in the season, that victory, against a VERY talented team and coach, is the type of win which can set the course for a very good season.  Also, a credit to the coaching staff for making the adjustments at half time, which settled down the team and also put them in positions to win the game.  Our adjustments, trumped their adjustments and that's the sign of outstanding coaching ......

On to Tulane !!!

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

It's only 1 position in the secondary, the Wint/Pryor position. The simple fact is neither of them can play free safety in 2018. Give Sean Wade a shot because he was making plays all night and he certainly can't do any worse than Wint's embarrassing performance in TCU's second half long touchdown pass.

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BuckeyeatTSUN's picture

The fact the OSU has four elite head coaches boggles the mind.  We upgraded at WR coach so if we can get rid of Davis we should be in good shape moving forward.

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Wildragei's picture

Good shape hell, we will be in amazing shape!

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BengalBuck's picture

Abdominal strain? That wasn't his belly Nick was pointing towards.

I'm speculating here, cause that what all we "experts" do from our sofas, but it appears to me that Lil Bear may have a groin pull. The "experts" say they can be very painful while most athletes are rendered incapacitated for quite some time as they are usually slow(er) to mend.

If that's the case, and depending on severity, he could go under the knife; which in turn means he likely shuts it down for the rest of this year.

Nick's immediate health is of paramount importance of course and the coaches & trainers certainly won't rush him back. Yet, It makes sense financially if he indeed needs surgery, to spend the remainder of his time here recovering fully in order to protect his draft status.

If that happens, I for one will miss him. The man-child is a beast; in this instance, a bear.

PS Keeping feeding Mack & were the TEs targeted (at all)?

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Cooper's picture

Groin surgeries take about 6-8 weeks to recover from. I was running again by the 4th week after my sports hernia surgery. Hopefully Nick’s strain isn’t too serious.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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WC Buckeye's picture

Yes, they threw to Rashod Berry a couple of times.

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bd2999's picture

Not that it helps the cause but how many holds TCU was getting away with on the line and downfield was staggering. I am sure OSU got away with some too, but the play Bosa got hurt was a clear example. And that was hardly the only one. Not that it would have made up for the injury but it was rough seeing that play and then not even get the penalty call at all. 

I have no reason to doubt what ESPN was told about Bosa's injury at the moment. If we are told something else on Monday than so be it. He is at the least out vs Tulane. Depending on what is wrong, he could be out for the rest of year. If it is more minor than a few games. 

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

Is there any doubt we have the best defensive line in football?

Our D-line scored 14 points yesterday in a game we won by 12. Their exceptional dominance is the reason we won that game.

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BucksHave7's picture

Get him the ball more!

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SpaceCoast's picture

I agree, he blew past those guys on the TD so fast it looked like they were walking.  I was texting with my Army son watching from the Far East and as soon as he told me they needed to get the ball to Campbell the Buckeyes broke that big scoring play.  Outstanding!

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northwest_buckeye's picture

Yes. Why they didn’t go to him more after Mack kept pissing down his leg is beyond me.

I've never said I 'hate' anyone because that would imply I had any emotion for them whatsoever.

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buckeyepastor's picture

Haskins is completing over 70% this year while our QB coach has had to steer the ship.  Can’t wait to see how much more lethal we might be when Day is back to giving full attention to offense.  

They replayed the Bosa injury likely a dozen times.  Did Kirk or Chris ever bother to mention he was being hauled down by his collar when the injury occurred?  

Red zone last night was pretty bad.   Numbers were a little misleading as one of those drives, Mack had a TD fall off his hands, and on another there was pretty clear PI that wasn’t callled.   But would love to see our run game just enforce their will inside the ten yard line.  Maybe Martell in that situation to allow us that QB run option where things are in close quarters for the pass game?  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

I think Haskins, Bosa, sheffield and dre'mont are going to be 1st round draft picks. This is our year to win the big one!

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Purplemaze's picture

Not the outcome I was hoping for but it should be a great learning experience moving forward.  Other than the strip sack for a TD I think our OLine answered the bell pretty well.  Good luck the rest of the way.  Time to get ready for the Longhorns.

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Buckeyeincleveburg's picture

Best of luck going forward.  I believe you will beat the fighting Hermensas ... and I will be rooting for you to.  

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Buckeyebobby1968's picture

Hoping Bosa didn’t tear his abdominal wall or groin. Because if he did he’s gone for the season. Shaun Wade suffered the type of injury and never played 

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

So the LT goes with the million dollar dream and results in Bosas injury.  Nice.  

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Huskerbuck's picture

Hopefully Bosa's injury is not serious. He and Jones are two major reasons our "D" is able to make big time plays.  The rest of the "D" has significant room for improvement.  Way too many big plays given up way too often. 

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allinosu's picture

There are some things to work on in our back 7 but the good news is that very few teams can exploit it that badly. We will not see that kind of tempo-speed combo unless it's the playoffs. 

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ZeroDimension's picture

Not trying to make excuses for Mack, but I thought he might have gotten hurt on that first big catch... Those drops looked like he has having hand/wrist pain.  

Before the game, the one thing I was hoping to see was better LB performance(coach and players).  I believe at this point, this is a 'tim beck' situation we have to ride out.  Pete Werner looks lost, and that is not just on the player..   I like Harrison's athletic ability, but he doesnt seem to have "lb instincts" at this point.   That PSU game conerns me... They can exploit this weakness, let's not be the ones to move McSorely to the front of the heisman campaign. 

RB.  I thought dobbins first two carries, he was stepping laterally instead of moving forward.  Webber came in and ran harder, when Dobbins came back in, he seemed to run more like Webber.  I like both of these guys, and I thought Webber would be the one to run through TCU defense late in the game.  It is a nice problem to have.  I know people have their favorites, I like them both.  Both need to work on Pass protection. 

WR:  KJ Hill is the man.  I like his thickness.  Mack, I really hope he did not hurt hand/wrist.  Berry( he is starting to make at least one really noticeable mistake per game, that has to get cleaned up).  Campbell needs more touches, just to keep the defense honest. 

QB:    I like how he handled the pressure, would have been easy to force some balls and give up a pick 6(which we have seen from more experienced QBs).  He missed the pass to Victor, that was the only thing I thought was bad.  Interesting that Haskins got every snap... not that I am complaining... 

OL - the Center snaps are a HUGE problem, it is disrupting the timing of plays.    At this point we moved an all american Guard into being an average center with an average guard replacement.  Maybe that is better than having a below avg center with an all american guard.  The situation makes me more nervous than Mack's drops.  Once a center gets bad snap syndrom in his head, it keeps rearing its ugly head.  The TCU d-line won this battle IMHO, not by much, but they did. 

Special Teams:  The Kickoff by TCU, was great planning and horrible execution.  ST under urban have been an adventure.  Glad this happened and failed.   I am ecstatic we didn't have any bobbled cactches on returns.  There was one catch around our 10, I could just see the guy fumbling as the ball came down.  Punting was definitely not Bj Sander or Andy Groom.   But we didn't do anything to lose the game.  The Missed FG was not the end of the world.  

Red Zone offense needs more work and a better identity.  

Big ten west is not good, only hope is for Iowa to go undefeated.  A one loss big ten team won't be in the playoff, without Chaos.  And this is a year where there are some teams with easy schedules, so I dont expect it.  OU, Stanford, and ND should be undefeated easily(but it never happens that way).   

With all that said, I really enjoyed that game last night...  it reminded me how grateful I am Gordon Gee is no longer around saying stupid stuff for bulletin board material... He is the reason PSU ran it up on us in 1994.  He said some really dumb stuff after our 93 win.  and PSU actually used it as motivation and didn't resort to billboards, they made a statement on the field.  But make no mistake about it, the whole program was focused on that game for 365 days.   

Just beat PSU, the way the schedule sets up... that game is crucial.  Very doubtful PSU would drop two conference games. 

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WC Buckeye's picture

Good takes, and I agree with most of what you said. However, ND plays Stanford, so it won’t be possible for them both to be undefeated. In fact, I expect ND to derp it a few times, as they almost always seem to do. 

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Oh Aych's picture

Strong analysis, ZD. Would've made a great forum post (still would, I think).

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McGrind's picture

BiG West doesn’t matter...nobody cares. Just hope one of them steps up and beats  ttun or psu. 

Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP

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4cardpoker's picture

Nice post and well written and thought out..

Gee>Holbrook>Drake though 

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Frimmel's picture

I think one of the issues for the linebackers is the first job of the d-line seems to be getting pressure and not keeping the linebackers clean. Our talent on the d-line is getting used against us and it is making it even more difficult for the linebackers who do have some growing to do. That big run the center got to the second level untouched.

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PapaBucks's picture

Pete Werner sure didn't look lost when he forced the TCU QB to throw that shovel pass pick six in the middle of the 20 point onslaught. 

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BuckeyeJAK's picture

Ryan Day nothing but class a true leader. We need to keep him is my first thought but I dont want to hold him back. May he return one day to lead this team when the need arises.

Mark May is a mental midget

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