The Situational: Extra Sauce

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SkoBux's picture

Trying to be as objective as possible here, but I don't see how this offense can be stopped. Slowed down? Maybe. So far the offense hasn't had to rely on anything because one aspect was simply shut down. 

I guess we'll find out on Saturday.

At last, Kerry had cracked open his first Red Bull with an impatient delight. And the rest, as they say, was history.

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FalcotoyourMartel's picture

This will be the first game without rain. Maybe the balls will be too easy to catch?

Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever. -Falco

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stpetebuck's picture

In the past our passing stats took a nosedive in some of our big games. But having only the 8/9 Haskins completions against ttun as a reference, I’m very optimistic about the Dwayne Train rolling through Arlington. 

All eyes on the lb’s and secondary who seem to be on a positive trajectory.  

Also on the O line, who imo need to improve at 1st and 2nd down runs  

So much is on the line Saturday. 

Go go go Bucks. 

Show the nation your best effort and execution. 

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RBurgundy4's picture

Urban will find a way. Be patient.

#CalpoppyStrong

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TigerSweat's picture

I will be fucking furious if we start seeing qb runs when Urban gets back to the sideline. He's likely the best recruiter in the country and he's an elite CEO but he's also sutbborn as hell when it comes to his offense. Hopefully he's seen enough of haskins'magical arm that he just rolls with it.

Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0

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Extramedium's picture

The only difference is that he’s not on the sidleline. Day and Wilson are still the OCs, Meyer is still running practice, and I’m pretty sure they had a solid offensive game plan in place before Urban was suspended. 

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ibuck's picture

I don't see how this offense can be stopped. Slowed down?

Depends on O-line performance. Will TCU hurry a young QB who may need an extra second as TCU pass defenders play better than Oregon State or Rutgers? Will there be running lanes for Webber and Dobbins?

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PRO8's picture

Will Haskins be able to scramble for first downs when all his other options are shut down?

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SaltyD0gg's picture

If TCU can bring pressure, it'll slow down. That's the one thing this offense hasn't faced. If we keep the pocket clean, turn out the lights.

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sullie's picture

Robert Landers is awesome.  I can't believe people call Robert Landers fat.  Seriously?  My God, I would KILL to be that "fat"!  God almighty, give me a break man, dude looks like he could bend steel.  Seriously, if that guy is considered fat then I don't even wanna know what I'm considered. . . Robert Landers fat. . .pffft. . . if that's fat well then by God sign me the hell up!  GO BUCKS!!!

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IGotAWoody's picture

No.66 for the Scarlet Knights going straight to the second level to block completely whiff on Malik Harrison while his running back is being eaten at the minus-two level. Optimism: Pass it on™.

Fixed

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Extramedium's picture

I was going to say the same thing, there was absolutely no block happening 

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BbBnD's picture

“Seriously, if that guy is considered fat then I don't even wanna know what I'm considered. . .”

probably fat?

sorry, I couldn’t resist. 

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Extramedium's picture

Yeah but it’s ok to be when your arms are solid muscle and bigger than most people’s legs.

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sullie's picture

I'm 6'4" and 258. . . I'm definitely fat. . . I'm doing my best to get taller though so there you go. :)

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NorthernOhioBuckeye's picture

Good call on Winfield Jr. Ramzy. It baffles me that he was not offered by the Bucks considering his lineage. If he is even half as good as his dad, he is first team all conf at Ohio State. Antoine Sr. was probably the best corner that I can remember watching play for the Bucks. 

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buckeyenut74's picture

Pisses me off he wasn’t recruited 

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Dirty419Boy's picture

Me too. Dude is only going to the NFL and kick ass like his old man did for 10+ years.

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Keyser Soze's picture

I didn't understand it either, I live in The Woodlands where JR went to high school and he was a pretty big deal in a school that has 4,500 students so the talent pool is exceptional for their football team. I have a friend that had a 6'3 275 lb son that got 5 plays a game on defensive line due to the competition 

That's how winners play. We convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.

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CSnowRun25's picture

Agree 100%. That interception AW Jr had to seal the win for Minnesota was amazing. To not offer a scholly to the son of the player Chris Spielman once called “the hardest hitter he’s ever seen” is a head scratcher. And he ran a 4.23 40 at Buckeyes Camp. 

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ibuck's picture

I wonder if Urban considered Winfield Jr. "a hood ornament."

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Sampson8080's picture

During the punt return, that fend on #9 is just mean. 

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MN Buckeye's picture

BB is quick, fun to watch, and a huge personality. Like Ramzy, many of us (ok, me) also have a man-crush on him.

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PunchFaceChampions's picture

I feel really confident about this game and everything in me wants to predict an over two touchdown win for the Bucks but...we've been hurt before. My jaded soul needs healed. Go Bucks! 

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Thomas 7's picture

You guys, the OSU players, will win, but TCU will play with heart, will make it difficult , for this reason—-2 actually 1.  Patterson gets the most out of his players.   Unless you get this, it may be difficult for an elite team like OSU, and the joeys here, to understand.   2.  Now though , TCU does have elite NFL bound players, and their team speed, especially at wide receiver, is sick. So Patterson is now getting 3 star players to play like 4 star and 4 star like 5 star.

The key for TCU is this?  Shawn Robinson has got to connect long with TCU.  I am not talking run & catch with the sick, ridiculous speed of a 160 pound bolt of lightning in KeVontae Turpin,  but a long pass play.   If SR can’t connect on a couple long to keep OSU’s big and fast DB’s honest, they are going to start crowding the box and taking the short pass and run away; so Shawn Robinson, you are an elite runnere, but Saturday night needs to be your coming out party on all fronts.  If not, this game will be competitive but never in doubt.

Hey , does anyone know if Rutger Hauer will be at this game?   I heard a rumor that if his Rutgers loses to the Bucks, he always goes to the following game out of respect for OSU.

Thomas

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BUCKEYEZ's picture

Respect your opinion, but I am so tired of hearing from TCU fans how they get the most out of their players. Something we see year in and year out with Michigan State and Wisconsin, along with a half dozen other P5 teams that can’t out recruit the top programs. This is not unique.

Also, let’s pump the brakes on what “getting the most out of of players” means. The common theme is stability at coaching, good schemes, and recruiting players that are a good fit for their philosophy. Jonathan Taylor is a great example of this. Many teams didn’t recruit him as he is an I formation, power running back. He was ranked as a 3 star mostly due to his speed which is not elite or on par with his peers. However, he is a perfect RB for Wisconsin. They aren’t “getting more from him”. They recruited a less heralded player that better fit their scheme. This is the same as Mark Dantonio and Gary Patterson. 

Guess what? This is also what Urban Meyer did at BG and Utah as well. Are we now to assume he forgot how to develop players? Perhaps more logically, the coaching is the same but he uses those better players to win National Championships at Florida and OSU, something he could not do at Utah or BG. 

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Hovenaut's picture

Bob Landers would make a helluva punt returner if he wasn't disrupting opposing offensive lines.

I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...

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SLVRBLLTS's picture

No.66 for the Scarlet Knights going straight to the second level to block Malik Harrison while his running back is being eaten at the minus-two level. Optimism: Pass it on™.

And he proceeded to completely whiff on Harrison.

"Because we couldn't go for three"

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Keyser Soze's picture

BB is one of my favorite players and I was yelling from the tree tops to start him 2 years ago, but Ramzy that was the best description as the Jenga piece I have ever seen!! 

That's how winners play. We convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.

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GallowayGambleGinnWAR7's picture

More Ramzy articles would improve our lives.

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DaiTheFlu's picture

There's still a lot of salt coming from TCU fans over their "robbed national championship" from 2014, because they TOTES would have beaten Bama and Oregon. Heres hoping that theres a little extra salt to rub into the open wounds they're sure to have after Saturday night's bludgeoning.

* I really dont think we're GOING to win by 30, but God do I want to.

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

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Gflbuck's picture

I hope the coaches keep reminding the players of this the entire week:  "They think they are better than you"

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Extramedium's picture

I would not be at all surprised if they did win by 30

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Bamabucknut's picture

When you want someone to not work for you but you don't want to fire him yourself......just take away their pay for about 6 weeks and tell them to stay home for several weeks. That is what Drake did to URBAN  one of the top 3 coaches in the country.All because in DRAKES judgement an employee did not act fast enough. Drake is unqualified to be in his current position IMO.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

You really need to let it go, Bamabucknut. The only time you comment, it’s to rant about Pres Drake. He’s not Lee Harvey Oswald; he didn’t act alone. The Board of Trustees agreed on the punishment, and at least one member has publicly stated he wanted it to be harsher. 

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So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
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buckzilla1's picture

Sorry Navy.

Hey Cancer! This ass kicking is brought to you by the Sultan of the sythe. Give it hell CalPoppy.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

For what?

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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BBQ_Fan's picture

Wait, you're saying tbat Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone? But I thought I read that ... Ok never mind.

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BuckeyeJAK's picture

The penalties really need to be reduced...

Mark May is a mental midget

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Absolutely. That crap isn’t going to cut it against Top 10 competition. 

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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IGotAWoody's picture

I'm curious about your take, Navy - how often do you think the calls are legit vs. WTH did they call there? Especially against Rutgers, at least half the calls were questionable. Granted, some would write me off as typical homer-penalty complaining, but I tend to at least TRY to be fair about calls, especially when I go back and watch the replays. And I'm quick to acknowledge bad calls made against our opponents.

But college football officiating is inconsistent at best, and downright horrible at its worst. When I watch non-Buckeye college games, I'm continually questioning what the refs are seeing. And this goes beyond the typically inconsistent holding calls.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Just for background, I coach a HS sport, and I've attempted to officiate a few of our scrimmages and live play during practices.  It's damn hard to see everything, especially when you're outnumbered.  On-ball penalties are generally easier to pick up than off ball, because that's where your focus is. 

But when you think about eight college football officials (each with different responsibilities) trying to watch 22 players and call infractions, the math doesn't work.  Most players are matched up 1-on-1; and official can watch that well but nothing else.  They are basically able to focus on 16 players at a time, leaving six guys free to "get away with" a no-call.  Then take into account that there are 65 or so FBS games every Saturday. That means you have 65 different crews calling games. Achieving consistency across that many officials is impossible.

I will say this at the HS level: I've seen officials blatantly attempting to level the playing field in the calls they make. It's inexcusable when it happens, and we get to write reviews after each game through OHSAA.  I would like to think that doesn't happen in college sports, but people are human. And as Americans, we like the underdog; according to Bill Murray it's in our American DNA.

Listening to Coach Frost this week (Adrian Martinez was the victim of after the whistle leg twisting that resulted in a knee injury - no call), it sounds like the coaches get to send tape to the league officials for review after every game.  If it's egregious, I assume the coaches are addressing it. 

TL/DR: College football officiating is inconsistent, but I don't feel it's intentional. It's hard to do, and there aren't enough refs on the field.

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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IGotAWoody's picture

I agree, it's not even possible to expect 8 officials to see everything that's going on and make all the calls that need to be made. But I'm talking more about the calls that happen RIGHT IN FRONT of the ref.

Even worse is when they go back and review a call, watch replays, and then STILL get the call wrong. Now granted, I think one problem with that is they should watch the replays at regular speed - slow mo can absolutely distort the view of what happened, especially when looking at pass interference. For most plays, they should go back, watch it again once or twice at regular speed, and make a call. If there's not enough evidence to overturn, then the onfield call stands.

Slow mo replays are only helpful on a handful of calls, like determining whether a fumble call is correct or figuring out where a knee went down/where to spot the ball.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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The Rill Dill's picture

It doesn’t matter if they are legit. They are called. Too late after that.

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Extramedium's picture

What?  It matters if you’re trying to correct the issue.  If they are legit, you correct it with the players. If they are consistently calling non-penalties then there’s avenues to address that with the NCAA.

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GallowayGambleGinnWAR7's picture

Yup. Then come the “make-up” flags.

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tampatom's picture

Punt return this year is as baffling as Weber doing kick off return last year. Saunders seems like he is back there for his hands but not threat to run one back, yet we have other receivers with better speed dying for playing time and Gill, to me, seems like the best solution of hands and speed.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

I think punt returning is half physical and 90% mental. Didn’t Yogi Berra say that?

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

Punt return this year is as baffling as Weber doing kick off return last year

And as baffling as the year before that, and the year before that, and the year before that....

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Lighteyes's picture

Saunders seems like he is back there for his hands but not threat to run one back

This is, in fact, exactly why CJ Saunders is back there - apparently he's the only dude who they can trust to reliably catch it. I seriously doubt the coaches are under any illusions as to his ability to put up return yards; they just want to know that the ball is getting caught, downed, and safely handed over to the offense.

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

Hill did the same thing last year in securing the ball, but that wasn’t good enough.

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Sanantonefan's picture

The first step in a punt return is to catch the ball. Gotta do that. It doesn't matter how electric you are with the ball if YOU DON'T GET THE BALL.

Saunders had a pretty nifty return last week (after actually catching the ball).

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CincyBuck's picture

If memory serves me, Saunders had a muffed punt against Oregon State.  So...  yeah.  He's not exactly killing it in that department, either.  He's just less athletic.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

You mean this one, when his protection ran into him?  Not his fault.

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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CincyBuck's picture

Man, after watching that clip 8 or 9 times, I still can't tell what gets to him and when (e.g., the ball, his teammate, etc.)  But I shall take your word for it.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

I think they were simultaneous. If his protection doesn’t arrive at that spot, I think he fields it cleanly. Just my opinion. 

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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cledaybuck's picture

The ball hits the protector before it even gets to Saunders.

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TShell's picture

Saunders had a really nice return last week. It doesn't matter how fast and shifty you are if you're scrambling around trying to pick up the ball from the turf. And let's not pretend like we've gotten a lot out of the punt return game anyway. The average return the past few years has to be around 5 yards, give or take a few. I'm happy Saunders is getting a shot at it. If he can just catch the ball reliably, that is a big improvement over the previous return guys.

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mstenzler's picture

I would be remiss if i didn't ask- why do you think the penalty should have been stiffer, and what do you think it should HAVE been?   

marc

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

I think he covered it in another article. See the link he provided at the word “reasons”. 

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2018-season-preview/2...

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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mstenzler's picture

this?  "He didn't re-enter coaching in 2012 to have his program back in the news for embarrassing non-football reasons, as in Gainesville. He didn't return to be the recipient of paid administrative leave. Urban wins football games because of what he does on the field. Urban has gotten himself in trouble for not doing enough off of it. 

Everyone figured this out when he was still a Gator, and his time as a Buckeye had been practically unblemished with regard to not tolerating what happened at Florida. Reputation is a dual vector agreement with yourself and the general public. For living people, it's only renewable daily. Unfortunately it doesn't come with better terms."

so he should be punished for what he neglected to do in Florida?  thats the only take-away i see here.  and if so, how severe should punishment have been?  

marc

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

TBH - I copied his link without looking at it. I think he may have meant to link to the roundtable they posted in late August. Here it is if you missed it. 

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/the-zach-smith-invest...

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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Steelydan54's picture

It's commmmmmiiiinnnngggg!  Starting bright and early on Game Day and masticated throughout the day, because the Talking Heads. Must. Talk. Continuously.  Maybe some football will occur that will interrupt them periodically. If we blow them out, we will hear more, not less. 

Steelybuck54

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BeatTTUN's picture

Up 9 with 3 minutes to go in the 3rd Quarter of the Orange Bowl. All Philly Brown has to do is fair catch the ball and the Buckeyes start the drive at their own 40 yard line. 

Nice work Ramzy 

Go Buckeyes

Beat Michigan 

Beat TCU 

Go Buckeyes Beat Michigan

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DCDDC's picture

Ramzey coins the "Jenga Block".  Nice.

I'm calling Webster's

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TobyMagic's picture

You're upset AW Jr. is not a Buckeye? Hot take there, guess you should be the next Director of Recruiting when Meyer leaves because of little gnats like you..

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input4u's picture

When Ginn had that head and chest forward running style no one could catch up to him.  His Zero to Max speed seemed to only take 3-4 gallops and that stride he had....  That Video was awesome !!!

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MeatBichigan's picture

Absolutely. Ginn's top speed was off the charts, but it was his acceleration that weaponized that speed.

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Dillon G's picture

After the bourbon is bottle-ready, it is infused with select, single origin cacao beans that are slowly roasted and stone ground...the result...has hints of caramel and toffee typically associated with a bourbon, but a gentle, chocolaty finish.

This reminds me of something Rocky Patel might say about his latest offering of any particular month. 

I went on the Jack Daniels tour in Tennessee. I found it interesting, unlike their Whiskey. I did buy a bottle of their "better' stuff. It was decent. The tour guide claimed the flavored whiskey they have is from rotating the barrels in the warehouse top to bottom to warm and cool, over periods of time. That brings out the sugar. Anyway, he seemed convinced they don't add anything to it. It is just manipulation of the barrels. i'm not sure.

#walkaway

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hetuck's picture

1. You need to adjust your "Thank You" percentages to include at least 10% for Kevin Wilson. He's under appreciated. 

2. The Meyer haters better grit their teeth for the BTN Tulane broadcast. You can bet the house it will show the cheers of encouragement on the Blackwell walk and thunderous standing ovation when Meyer takes the microphone in St. John Arena. They will be left to mutter about Buckeye fans with "scarlet blinders" and other epithets. If the broadcast crew says something to the effect of "They love Urban Meyer in Columbus, but not so much elsewhere", I don't give a damn for their opinion or the state up north. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

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Seattle Linga's picture

Watching peppers trying to arm tackle makes me laugh. 

Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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Sanantonefan's picture

Always. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

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buckeyemike 45's picture

ramzy, like most of your articles. however on the Meyer punishment to coin a phrase it is settled law. its a dead horse.awful harsh on Tulane. lol

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Dillon G's picture

It is a good thing certain Americans did not accept settled law after Dred Scott, and other heinously wrong choices. I also disagree about the punishment, he should be reinstated immediately.

#walkaway

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buckeyemike 45's picture

Ramzy, need an article on your take on recruiting are we behind or just hit a dry spell.

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IGotAWoody's picture

Most guys are focused on their senior season from August to November. Not a whole lot of guys committing anywhere in those months.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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HOLYbucknut's picture

This is just what I needed on Hump Day. Agree with 100% of it.

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Dillon G's picture

It gives me an excuse to read reviews on bourbon.

#walkaway

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IGotAWoody's picture

I followed the Youtube link of Ginn highlights, thinking "oh I love watching a few of Teddy's punt returns". But once I start watching, I have to watch them all.

His speed was so unlike any other Buckeye, or any other football player that I have ever watched. He was 0 to 60 in one or two seconds.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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Sanantonefan's picture

I have never even thought of buying a flavored infused bourbon before. Now I'm thinking of it.

I did try the apple-pie and cinnamon bourbon recipes for Christmas presents last year--much appreciated by the recipients. Of course, I kept some back for yours truly, again, much appreciated. ;)

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BuckeyeRy4's picture

I am not afraid to admit that I share admiration for BB Landers with my media-type man crush, Ramzy.

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TShell's picture

You certainly are not alone around here in the BB fan club. Every time I lock in on him prior to the snap, it seems like he's in the backfield already by the time the QB has the ball. That replay should have a caption of the center's internal thoughts: "SNAP, Oh shit, look out guys!"

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CanadianBuckeyeEh's picture

Question - 2017: 
How can the Frogs have 943 penalty yards, and we have (only) 750 penalty yards, but they are ranked higher than us?  We had 89 in NUMBER, but they had 97.  

How is the stat measured - number of penalty yards, or just number of penalties? Either way, shouldn't they be ranked lower than us, not higher?   (If you look at 2018, they have fewer penalties AND fewer penalty yards, and they are ranked higher than us, as one would expect.) 

"Be a first rate version of yourself, not a second rate version of someone else." - Judy Garland

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crwall05's picture

It looks like the raw 2017 numbers are flipped in the chart, I just googled our stats for 2017 and we had 97 for 943 yards. http://www.cfbstats.com/2017/team/518/penalty/offense/split.html

CRW

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CanadianBuckeyeEh's picture

That would explain it.  Thanks! 

"Be a first rate version of yourself, not a second rate version of someone else." - Judy Garland

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falloutboy89's picture

Those Ginn highlights are so much fun. He was one of my favorites to watch. When he and Santonio would both go back to return you knew something amazing was about to occur. And that TD vs. MSU to win the game was something I'll never forget. Special SO to Troy Smith too for throwing all those bombs when Ginn had defenders beat by 10+ yards. 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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