Rutgers Debriefing: A Dominant Passing Attack, Shaun Wade Plays Well, and Nick Bosa is Really Good

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D-Train's picture

I'm going to be very curious for next week. I really want to see what a game looks like when both the first string offense and defense play, you know, the entire game.

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TMac's picture

Are you sure you're going to get to see it next week? TCU in Jerry World will certainly be a tougher test, but....

ONE Not Done!

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D-Train's picture

I guess we'll find out. But I have a hard time really judging how good this team is when we keep subbing all our players. Good problem to have I suppose

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ChristianHaven's picture

Ohio State's secondary also played much better than they did a week ago.

It was not the same secondary playing-- I don't  recall seeing Jordan Fuller and Shaun Wade last week.

Life starts all over again when it gets crisp in the fall. (F. Scott Fitzgerald)

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Silver Sniper's picture

Exactly. We already knew about Fuller but more Wade please!!!

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gumtape's picture

JTLFM is back! Thank you!

I would have guessed it was Tate Martell throwing on 3rd and 16. That down and distance calls for an empty backfield QB draw, or a pitch to maurice Wells.

Now we just need the Houndie.

High and tight boo boo

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

No way Tressel would've cursed like that.

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okiebuck's picture

I think he would have when McCall muffed the punt though.

The only hard day was yesterday

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DarthSweaterVest's picture

I applaud the return of JTLFM!!  Long may it reign in glory

If only you knew the POWER of the Dark Side

 

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Silver Sniper's picture

A little help here...what is JTLFM?

thx

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GoBucks10's picture

"Freaking" from The Vest.  He must have really been bothered!

I hate the offseason.

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Buck298's picture

You know he's really out of sorts when he says with disgust, "Oh, Applejacks!"

This is actually why I enjoy JTLFP. My mother was a female version of Tressel (OK, our myth of him). You knew you were in SERIOUS trouble if she said, "Oh, gosh darn it." My Dad, formally a grizzled Army Drill Sergeant during the Korean War, could be seen stopping in his tracks, fearful eyes wide open, "oh no, what did I do?"

Send the Earth Reverberating

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JTownBuckeye's picture

I see Tress as an “oh pickles” kind of guy in lieu of actual swearing.

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PhillyNut's picture

Rutgers decided to try and stop the run and make the Buckeye QBs prove they could pass effectively in the rain. Appreciate Rutgers proving to the rest of the NCAA that even a snow storm may not stop this passing attack. Next question is what happens if a team blitzes every down. Not betting against Haskins quick release as long as he quickly processes which receiver is being left open. You can bet Patterson will be throwing the kitchen sink at him and trying to confuse him.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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Dillon G's picture

I see it too. Rutgers was solid against the run because they are well coached. They made open field tackles. That is "tackling in space" as Herbstreit wants to reinvent the term to leave his mark on it. If you dedicate to stopping JT Barrett with Haskins on the field, you will pay dearly in the passing game.

#walkaway

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

That injury to their QB, while inflicted by Bosa is on the hands of the Rutgers staff.  They were running the clock down on 1st and 2nd, only to try and throw it on 3rd with under 20secs left in the half?  

You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

I want to see Bosa, Young, Jones, and Landers eat TCU's O-line up. Harkins will be challenged by Patterson with blitzes and confusing coverages. I think he and Day are up to the task.

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Buck68's picture

me too SAB!  We'll soon see... but i'm hoping that what i want to see, and what's out there to see... are identical!   ;-{)}

Buck68

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Buck68's picture

we are really good at 'mentioning' something and immediately changing the subject...

...when the object of the mention begs an entire article and thread.

This week:  [especially for U guy who 'love' 'balance':  what 'happened' to our 'running game' when both our 'dominators'... didn't?

Follow-up question:  did play selection 'have anything to do with it'?  Or...do we play the 'who's to blame game' yet again?

Buck68

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TMac's picture

I thought we took what they gave us. Their secondary is riddled with injuries, so we attacked their weakness quite effectively. Which sounds like a good plan to me. 

ONE Not Done!

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Buck68's picture

TMa

1-'take what they give'.  Day said that postgame ore-gone.  I didn't see any 'throwing into double/triple coverage' though we did 'fit it in there' to 21 vs the Rutgers zone for a medium TD.  How consistently we did with... requires game film obs & counting....   ;-{)}

2-agree attacking relative weaknesses is a basic concept.  It's difficult to obs [esp fm a couch] how coaches/qb's do that.  It is a tad easier to keep doing... when the opponent elects to keep doing what they'e doing...

3-a "good plan" has several fundamentals.  It's ironic that most military plans are big on Annex C - Operations - and cursory on the criteria and assumptions that frame the present but dynamic, changing strategic situation.

Buck68

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Bucknut212's picture

Uh, what?

"It all goes so fast, and character makes the difference when it's close."
-Jesse Owens

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CreekBuck's picture

No love for BB Landers? Dude was a beast. He set the tone on the 1st snap and continued the assault all game. Yes Bosa is a stud. Stats be damned, the Big Disruptor deserves a Leaf.

You win with people.

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Buck68's picture

Agree BB had a great game - disrupting and taking on double teams.  Announcers noticed and repeatedly praised his effort.

Buck68

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TJG32's picture

Would love to see the big guy pick up a fumble, and rumble and stumble to a touchdown. 

TG Proud Buckeye alumnus.

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Buck68's picture

i do care that "i don't care" whenever my feelings get the best of me and i foist some of my ever-abundant reservoir of foolishness on my fellow Buckeyes!

some see this more than others...   ;-{)}

Buck68

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GoBucks10's picture

I'm just waiting to see where the end of your bracket ...[  ]... occurs from the comment above.

I hate the offseason.

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Buck68's picture

GoBucks10 - only our anonymous down-voters so know... and they're gathering their courage as time tells...   ;-{)}

As for brackets... we're all 'experienced' at qualifiers in any form...   ;-{)}

Buck68

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okiebuck's picture

I need more coffee to process your comments 68; have you ever thought of writing a book?
 

The only hard day was yesterday

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Buck68's picture

LoL Okie - just remembering the caring folks who've told me they have "never" understood a word i've said....  But that was enough for them to reach their conclusion.... ;-{)}

Why inflict a whole book [or even a Classics Illustrated] on those stymied for all time by a sentence?  A paragraph?  And then there's the "TL;DR" crowd....   ;-{)}

I think you already have offered a better solution:  more coffee...

Buck68

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Huskerbuck's picture

Biggest question going forward in my book is will the coaches and team fix the excessive penalty problem which continues from the last year or so?  11 penalties for 120 yards could and will cost us dearly against the better competition to come. 

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Schizo's picture

OSU penalties are a consistent issue year-to-year. At this point, I've just learned to deal with it.

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Buckloving's picture

It's embarrassing back there

bobbyd

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TShell's picture

I think Saunders will be ok there. He's had 2 hit the turf in 2 games, but both of those he was interfered with. The others he snagged just fine.

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SkoBux's picture

is it just me or is this the second year in a row C.J. Saunders impressed while under the radar? 

At last, Kerry had cracked open his first Red Bull with an impatient delight. And the rest, as they say, was history.

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Gmac44135's picture

He reminds me of Jalin Marshall running the ball. On many teams in the country, I feel he would be the starting 3rd receiver, but Ohio State is so deep, Cj becomes an afterthought.

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Buck68's picture

it appears to me CJ looks to see/set up a lane, rather than just 'makes a move' or waits to see if a lane opens up.

He's trying to see/make a lane, and moves to set up lanes/blockers....

...comes from a legacy of 'how to overcome with average athletic skills'... or... just plain 'survival instincts'?   ;-{)}

Buck68

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sharks's picture

I still can't believe Sitkowski held on to the ball when Bosa smushed him, hopefully he's alright; seems like a tough dude. My only knock on Martell is that I wish he'd have put a little more on the td pass- better to leave it long and let the receiver go get it, but it was still a pretty good pass.

A man got to have a code...

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TigerSweat's picture

I think that was all he had... 50 yards in th air isn't too shabby though

Urban Meyer 4 Jim Harbaugh 0

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LeftCoastBuckeye's picture

Who knew he had it in him?  Tate now has the longest-pass bragging rights in the QB room.  You're up Dwayne.

My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.   - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)

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EZE4TD's picture

I love that one of our complaints is that when the backup quarterback threw a touchdown pass in mop up time, he didn't lead the receiver enough. #FirstWorldProblems

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PRO8's picture

A quarterback led the Buckeyes in rushing again......... ohhh the inhumanity...

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Biggest question to me isn’t the RBs but can we get our punt return problems figured out? The jammers blocking the gunners look lost and Demario can’t seem to catch it. He’s elusive once he has the ball in his hands. The problem is getting the ball in his hands.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Gmac44135's picture

CJ Saunders looked real good today, I would just roll with him. I can sense McCall making a critical mistake on the return against better competition.

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

Think Sean Wade will play himself into significant more playing time? I love what I've seen so far..

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lew-e's picture

A few things

I feel bad for sitkowski. Dude didn’t stand a chance but has the potential to be a good quarterback. Hoping he didn’t get hurt

bosa is a god damn animal and chase young is right behind him. Already. 

Split the rb duties and use the hot hand. Easy. They are a two headed monster. 

Haskins is good. Really good. It’ll be fun watching him play one year for us

Tate is good too. It’s like watching *gasp* J.T. with an arm. 

I have a special feeling about this team. It’s just different this year. I’m giddy thinking about it!

Go Bucks! Muck Fichigan! And beat TCewww

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tampatom's picture

Still not sure who the best three LB's are and if they will be ready for short quick passes from TCU. I do feel this team is real deal after watching them for two weeks, so I am confident they will not fall for misdirection and reverses, but anxiety level is up to moderate..Would also like to see Gill on first team punt return, great hands with more explosiveness than CJ

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Gflbuck's picture

Having that Oregon State game early on might be a blessing in disguise, giving them film and helping them focus on staying disciplined.

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

Gill , snead God there are just endless RBs on this team....what aN offense....put up 50 per game easy...

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KCAlum's picture

Don't hate me for this analogy, but this team reminds me a little of the New England Patriots in how they play.  I wonder if that is the Day influence. 

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4cardpoker's picture

I literally said this exact same thing yesterday at the game.  Particularly how “Brady”like Haskins is in the short passing game to Campbell, Mack and KJ Hill. They move fast and spread the ball to a lot of receivers with a bunch of 5-7yd routes to TE’s and slot WRs.  Then hit you over the top for the big TDS with McLaurin and Dixon.  Very Patriotesque

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elitesmithie's picture

Bosa and Young had some incredibly wonderful violent sacks

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Homey1970's picture

It was pretty obvious that the Rutger Hauer QB broke and/or dislocated his shoulder/collarbone.  After halftime, when he was in street closes, his right shoulder was significantly deformed (collapsed) compared to his left shoulder.

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Zimmy07's picture

They would have had it in a sling for a break.  At least I think they would have.

Apparently some people have near inhuman pain tolerance.  Lawson Craddock crashed the first day of the Tour de France and broke his shoulder blade.  The dude proceeded to finish not only that stage but the entire freaking thing.  He raised a quarter million in donations for a velodrome flooded out by Harvey (it’s not far from my house) in the process.  I’m in awe of the guy.

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SamOgilvie's picture

Gee Willikers, thanks for the return of JTLFM.

Sam Ogilvie

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RodeyBuck's picture

Oh thank goodness that you brought back Tressel moments!  After having such a great time watching the game I was afraid to click on the debriefing as I did not want to be disappointed by lack of Tressel.  Thank you!!!

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Steelydan54's picture

I think OSU has kept the offensive concepts pretty vanilla so far. They haven't needed to dig into the bag of tricks yet. Expect to see more of the quick passes we saw last week vs the Beav- a lot of balls were off the Train in under 2 seconds. QR (Queen Rutgers for those who didn't read "10 things to hate about R) decided to clog the middle and force us to throw in bad weather: at least you give them credit for a plan and some level of execution. We did as they asked. Next week will be offense with new concepts and wrinkles to existing work on tape. 

Agree that the D line is simply awesome; B.B. and Dre are such a 1-2 punch, with different styles but speed and power to burn. Same with Nick and Chase: Nick will nick you up with speed, finesse and power moves until you don't know what's coming next and wear down, and Chase will chase the qb like the tackle isn't even there. Not much finesse, but speed and power to burn. 

Martel just struck abject fear in the hearts of D-Coords across the country: 10/10 and a 40+ yard scramble/run leaving broken ankles across the field with a perfect 6.0 dive to the pylon. Now what are you gonna do?

Steelybuck54

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analyticalguy's picture

The Tater has definitely shown opposing DCs something they how half to prepare for, in addition to Haskins' passing, because they'll have to expect to see it at least a series or two every game, and perhaps more if it's slicing them up (or, God forbid, Haskins misses any time to an injury).

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Buck duce's picture

Did the last Bosa sack come against Cole

Eric Toliver

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Larryp713's picture

It did.

Respectfully,

Larryp713

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BuckIhateTTUN's picture

Anyone want to set the over/under for how many weeks will pass until Sitkowski stops picking rubber turf pellets from his teeth? I've seen 10' pines planted in shallower holes.  Sitkowski to Cole on his way back to the sideline: "Hey, Tariq, next time you poke the bear, you play QB."

"If you're going through Hell, keep going." Sir Winston

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

The gangster move would be to have Urban Meyer's least favorite play of the game while he's watching from home Saturday. Obviously it's be one where Haskins has the gall to pass for 30 yards on 3rd down instead of running for it.

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HughJorgan's picture

#UFMLFM. That idea can't be upvoted enough.

Who is this Rorschach guy and why does he paint so many pictures of my parents fighting?

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Larryp713's picture

Nick Bosa had a great game, as did Chase Young, but BB Landers was an absolute monster. That guy was unblockable. I would have named him co MVP for the defense.

Respectfully,

Larryp713

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Floyd Stahl's picture

Thanks so much for bringing back JTLFM.

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