Inside the Box: Ohio State Takes Care of Business in Season-Opener Against Oregon State

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LoufromOSU's picture

Fuller was missed big time.  Okudah showed why Arnett is still the starter.  Wint isn’t ready to be playing at all.  And the linebackers, besides Werner, were underwhelming (and that’s being nice).  

A lot of work to do in the back 7 of the defense.

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Tresselball4life's picture

For every year you have a Marshon Lattimore, Malik Hooker, and Gareon Conley,  You have a year like this.  The offense and defensive line have got to play lights out cuz the linebackers and secondary are playing at division 2 or non power 5.

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LoufromOSU's picture

I can excuse the secondary.  Not the linebackers.  

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KENTCLARK's picture

Nearly half the yards given up on defense came on 2 running plays. I think they will get that cleaned up this week.

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osu78's picture

Both of them also appeared to be the result of some out position players; which should be correctable as well as improve as players gain experience. It's not like aOSU was able to move the ball at will on tOSU; as the line gells and the linebacker play improves we should have a pretty stout defense. I'd be more worried if aOSU was able to consistently move the ball and give their QB plenty of time, which to me would indicate more fundamental problems with the defense.

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BucknutinNC's picture

This seems backwards from most years. Usually our Defense is clicking right away and the offense is trying to catch up. This year the offense looks to be running like a brand new Ferrari and the Defense isn't quite hitting on all cylinders. I'm not worried, that Defense has plenty of talent, they just need to bring it together and play as a unit and play with discipline. As long as they are hitting their stride by the PSU game we should be fine.

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NHBuckeye's picture

I'll take this any day.  Our offensive struggles of the past had led to us being down in games and having to claw our way back.  I'll put this offense up against anybody in a shootout.

Like you said though, the D is too talented not to get things together.  When we are 9-Strong, lookout!  

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

I wouldn't look past TCU. We shouldn't be planning on simply out scoring when stopping our opponents and still scoring plenty is how it's done. We should be over achieving by halftime Saturday and strongly moving forward.

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stpetebuck's picture

Didn’t Lagow (iu’s eventual backup qb)put up 400yds on last year’s team ?

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ShadyBucks's picture

A for effort, but it's really too early to start drawing comparisons to last year.... at least on the defensive end. 

No matter how we digest it, allowing 31 points to Oregon State is a huge red flag. ... 

But again, take this with a grain of salt, but it's really hard to divulge meaningful stats when going against bottom dwellers... Go Bucks

I don't apologize for anything. When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there. - Woody Hayes

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onubuckeye's picture

On and on and on about the Defense being in trouble because the Second Unit, playing together without the Ones, were out of position and allowed a couple of long runs. It is crazy. Yeah, the runs are there - but those plays were stoned when the Ones were in, even when the Second Unit players were rotated in with the Ones. Just having all the Second Unit in as a whole and several people out of position on the same play led to the busts. Need to fix it with the Second Unit? Sure. But how often will they rotate in together when the game isn't already well decided, just like Saturday?

Let's not lose our heads, OK? I saw someone say, "Yeah but they're all 4 and 5 star players!" A star for doing well in high school and athletic ability doesn't make up for experience in college.

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stpetebuck's picture

Onubuckeye

You nailed it. I believe the ones left them with. -4 yds rushing at half. But the dbacks allowed 194 passing yards(I think) in the first half. 

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nickel beer's picture

There could be a number of reasons for this number.

Yes, definitely so.  Not from one game, and certainly not from this quasi-two game game, should conclusions be drawn about causes.  It will be interesting to follow Oregon St as they progress through their season.  They didn't give up in Ohio Stadium-- and it would've been so easy to do at a number of points, beginning early on.  That's something to the opponent's credit and something that should be highlighted about this game.  Oregon St gave a great game to these very young Buckeyes. A gift, really.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

The defense really just needs more time and reps. The backers just need more game speed reps

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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CowCat's picture

As Greg Schiano pointed out in his press conference it wasn't just a matter of one guy being out of position. It's also the guys behind him needing to swarm to the ball and limit the damage. An 18 yard gain is preferable to an 80 yard touchdown.

Not knocking the Oregon State RB. The dude has jets. But he's not Zeke and giving up two very long runs is unacceptable.

In the end it will take a team effort, not just tweaking assignments, and IMO that won't happen in one week.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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Tresselball4life's picture

At least we don't have to worry about Saquan anymore.

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NOBLUE's picture

our #1 defense did not play most of the game ,,far better to give the 2'S AND 3's game experience then to worry about points ...the coaches know what they're doing..no worries

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MDBuckeyes's picture

Way to early to draw any conclusions, positive or negative.  Oregon State was terrible on the defensive side of the ball. I expect Rutgers to put up a better fight! The real test will come in 2 weeks when tOSU heads to Jerry-World to take on TCU. Buckle your chin straps for that game! 

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Steelydan54's picture

I'm imagining Urban sitting in the living room with his family, watching the game...for about a quarter and a half. Then Urban went to his study and the shouting and banging was heard until mid fourth quarter. YOU BET this defense is going to improve!

Steelybuck54

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isellusedcars00's picture

It’s week 1. We haven’t won a national championship and the sky isn’t falling.  God supposedly took seven days to create the earth.   Can we all just chill the F out and enjoy week 2?

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maximumblitz's picture

Get ready for a season of screen plays against our defense. It makes a lot of sense as a way to scheme against our strong defensive line. It's kind of like the bear defense of yesterday .... they will keep calling it until we stop it.

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SilverHaven's picture

Are we supposed to read the itty-bitty writing on the itty-bitty charts on my itty-bitty screen?

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Hovenaut's picture

Some very good measurables, and some things to work on...looks like Week 1 alright. 

Side note - Welcome, Jake Anderson.

Hindsight is, and in, 2020

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bbb's picture

OMG NO PIE CHARTS! What is this? Microsoft Excel 2003????

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Buck68's picture

After watching the  game again, the commentaries, and several clips... thoughts:

1- Generally, most of us, most of the time, are still captives of the hilights and our likes/dislikes.  Nothing new here!

2-Day, Schiano, Haskins responded well to questions and their matter-of-fact demeanor was refreshing to see.

3-Our focus on what we need to improve - coaches & players, O & D, was informative without much of the usual coachspeak.

4-I liked Schiano's point that the big plays were [1] only 3 plays in an otherwise pretty consistent run D, but [2] the homerun consequences in a close game can more likely be fatal.  Also liked the way Schiano cited a couple crazy fb bounces, but not in a whining or excusing manner.

5-Our LBs and Safeties need a lot of work, not only in gap recognition and accuate anticipation, but in basic pursuit and angles.  A guy can be a great athlete...but not a strong 'football mind' - we need both.

6-good to see the receivers making 'it's my ball' plays compared to the last few years.

7-Haskins made more mistakes than i saw at first... and got away with several thanks to his teammates and an average defense.  Great start...but plenty to work on and that was his take too in postgame.

8-happy to see so many Buckeyes 'familiarize' themselves with the field and the game... looking forward to see how our coaches manage PT and 'individual ~ team development' with the opportunities from the new NCAA 4 game participation rule.  Looks like a good start.

Enjoyed the game!  GO BUCKS!

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nickel beer's picture

What did you see on the 'development list' for Haskins?  I followed your observations about JT, which were excellent (*and fun to read, haha).  Haskins now is too fast for someone slob-minded like me.  I liked Tate's ball-handling--that and his stature can work incredibly well, when mixed with some completed passes.

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Buck68's picture

Nickel... i'm in the 'too slow' and 'limited vision' department too on Haskins.   He's pretty quick in several aspects.

I was looking for how he did anticipating and under pressure in the pocket - but there were too few incidents and zero of the 'immediate threat' variety that i saw.  I did see 3 [one the INT] times where his footwork went south with his first step.   That might indicate he needs some footwork reps on lateral steps / slides; or, throw it away while still under control.  Need  to see him under various serious pressures to assess his 'escapability' and/or 'mobility in the pocket'.  And we haven't see Haskins throw 'the long ball' yet.

Tate's passing is a little better, but his release and accuracy aren't in Haskins' league, yet.  Good point about his ball-handling, but i don't think the JTB style zone read scheme fits as well with our present team 'n schemes. 

And then there's Baldwin in contention by mid-season?

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KeithMC33's picture

I haven't seen anything written about him, but did Demario McCall play on Saturday? Thought for sure he would have been at PR/KR and would have seen some 2nd half snaps at RB. 

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Buck68's picture

yes.

limited opportunities.

had one decent PR where he broke a tackle & made a move....

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KeithMC33's picture

thank you for that update, I must have missed that part!

I hope he can find a home in this offense, he always seems to do well when he does play

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booj's picture

A lot of those charts are very difficult to read coherently. Here's an alternative format for the running backs that I think would make your case much more clearly from a visual standpoint.

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bbb's picture

WAYY better, thanks! 

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