Want to upvote this, but it currently has 69 upvotes so I'll just find one of your other comments to UV. I can't ruin that niceness
Payback may just be a bitch.
Payback? Who doesn’t like to look at naked chicks and drink beer?
When you lose, say little. When you win, say less.
Hope Tom flames out at Texas.
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
5-7 was a good start
5-7 with a chance to go 6-9
I saw Ryan Day hang 62 on Michigan...His hair was perfect.
Go Buckeyes Beat Michigan
Feed the trolls
I mentioned this in one of the running threads the other day.
Uh oh... There just might be more to come.
Lebron was there too! Finally after all these years the media has something negative on him.
“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.
They're all chickens. The rooster has sex with all of them.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
Seriously, never do anything illicit with a serial social media user, they leave an extensive paper trail
#Facts Every young married man knows this
Send the wolves after Tommy the snake
They're going to keep coming after Meyer until they chase him out...then they might move on to a smaller fish like Herman.
"Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed, is more important than any other one thing." - Abraham Lincoln
I wanted to flame Herman so bad, but the IG post has the comments turned off....it is still there for all to see though.
Feel free, though, to comment on Herman's Instagram post of the same date that also shows he was in South Florida.
Well damn. Does this mean the media heat is going to be turned up on Herman at Texas? Texas is a blue blood just like OSU so they have just as much incentive to go after them as they do OSU.
I see why people find this amusing, but Texas isn't going to punish him for something he did at another school that apparently wasn't even against that school's policy at the time.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
Didn't say Texas would (I don't think they will). The media on the other hand, every coach in America is fair game to them, especially the blue blood coaches. The only exception might be if anything disastrous ever happened with someone on Saban's staff.
You mean like an assistant paying players?
Yep. Curious as to why ESPN won't talk about that huh? Saban could have a bounty program amongst his defensive coaches like Sean Payton did with Gregg Williams in the NFL and ESPN wouldn't care.
eSECpn Any other questions?
No - the difference between the Alabama's, Miami Hurricane's administration, MSU administration, NC Admin, etc and OSU, Baylor, etc is the Pres of the University told/would tell the media/ncaa to go pound sand and wouldn't play the bull$hit games. OSU caves every time.
Texas may not punish him, but Tom may want to postpone going home to Michelle.
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
Yes Texas is a blue blood, but they haven't been revelant for years...no interest (clickbait) no story.....
They have Charlie Strong to thank for that. Fingers crossed OSU never, EVER hires a coach like him.
Enjoying daily the 62-39 ttun beatdown.
I don't often remember to upvote threads, but I upvoted this one.
Zach has nothing to lose at this point. The skeletons are coming out of the closet.
I have to admit when I heard about another OSU coach was there I was sure it was Vrabel.
The sound you just heard was Michelle Herman's head exploding.
Fields of Dreams
Maybe she is cool with sex workers.
I season my simple food with hunger
I figured Vrabel or Herman but noticed it was May 2014 which would be after Vrabel was gone. This is the least shocking thing in this whole situation.
Kind of wish it would have been Kerry Coombs. Imagine the hashtags.
Those strippers couldn’t handle Kerry Coombs. Lol!
Strippers do cocaine off of his a$$
I was hoping for Ed Warinner.
Vrabel was only here for 3 years (and only coached with Zach for two). So I don't see him being as easily lumped in with Zach as some of the other guys on staff.
I seriously could watch that all day.
Hard to see, but ZS out, Herman in.
I definitely like the slowed down version better. You get a better look at the woman turning her head slightly before getting creamed by the watermelon. It's nice.
Now this will start getting good.
Just to change the narrative, I want this to be more significant than it actually is
I mean—I don’t think it’s really that significant (unless you’re one of those people lobbing about morality and possible NCAA violations). Grown men can go to strip clubs.
It’s sure damn funny though.
They took two HS coaches of recruits they were trying to snag. The NCAA will most certainly be interested and my guess is OSU will self report this as a potential violation. It's not simply the morality of it, paying for an evening of food, drink , and fun for HS recruits coaches is not smiled upon by the NCAA.
Yes, but it’s TS not like Herman was doingit to get the kids to go to Texas. It still comes back on OSU.
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- Stuart Scott
Just contact a scumbag ex espin reporter and give him the information. Hell he will run with it.
The only true worry we should have about this 2019 team is this:
Why is Sevyn Banks wearing number 12?
LOL. Me too. Who cares if he was at a strip club. The only way this matters is if there was some NCAA issue -- which, if there were, that's not good for us.
But yeah, I'm 110% certain that Texas wouldn't care, anyway, even if it did somehow implicate Herman to a similar degree as Meyer. If this crap went down at Texas, the call for an investigation would be akin to a fart in the wind.
When the media is certain that Urban Meyer and Ohio State covered up domestic violence without any facts to back up those claims, I doubt that they care Tom Herman went to a strip club. It sucks, but it is the world that we live in.
They may not. Michelle Herman might though. And the media has gone after coaches for cheating and being horrible husbands before (see Bobby Petrino).
Now we just need Sapphire, Unique, Sky, and Chyna to come out with their stories on what happened that fateful night.
Nope! Uh-uh, don’t want any more, please make it stop, please...
They came up short. That's what they said.
You left out Dakota and, next on the stage, give it up for Amberrrrrrr.
Or so I’m told.
People forget LeBron played for the Miami Heat
Well $600 in a Miami strip club only gets you two 20 minute lap dances. They could have got a lot more for their money in Tallahassee.
$600 you can live like a king off Brice Rd in Columbus.
The ironic part of this is NO ONE goes to a strip club with just plastic. You know damn well they stopped at the ATM 1st and got a couple hundred. Blew that then handed over the plastic. Totally got upsold by some skank.
To be honest, I thought everyone knew better than to use plastic. That’s just asking to have the card maxed out.
Probably made the mistake of hitting the club ATM.
$10 fee? Ah, fuck it!
Maybe they only bought them drinks?
Do we know how much Herman spent? Surely Zach wasn't the only one making it rain.
If you continue to think what you always thought, you will continue to get what you always got. #AlumforStaff
Tom was making a lot more than Zach at that point. Why didn’t he pick up the tab?
Maybe he picked up most of it and we just don't know yet.
What was the stripper's catch rate when they were making it rain?
In the top-5 when compared to NFL Wide Receivers. Her nicknames now include "Parris" and "Elite."
She did a Dick Lagow when she was done.
What Tallahassee strip clubs are you talking about?
This has to be passed around more than just on this thread. Great work KBonay!
Oh, stop meddling....
My prediction for the next plot twist - Tom Herman is a stripper
And Zach groped him but the bouncer didn't see it
Same picture on Tom Herman's instagram
Okay now that’s really funny lol.
I love the comment from ilovejosh4 on both their pages with a simple "beast".
And he acts like the article is a big deal. Shazier is from Fort Lauderdale ...
Just want Meyer to do his time and come back, I am over this sort of stuff. Football and recruiting. Maybe the occasional other type of story.
Why did the report need to say 'unnamed coach'? Why not mention his name, when everyone else was named throughout the report. I thought that was odd. The committee certainly would have had records of Texas Tom on that trip with Zach.
MMmm, now we know why Tom Herman said "no comment" when asked about Meyer's problems with Media Day.
Let's make an 11W pact. Starting now we never mention Zack Smith again. Probably wishful thinking, but a guy can hope.
My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)
How about we start today?
I second this statement. But any Tom Herman/stripper information that comes out is fair game?
Also Earle...how could you let this all happen???
Only if it comes with a good gif.
How about we start yesterday?
It was always Tom, that’s really the only reason he kept his job. The whole Smith was untouchable angle is being overplayed. His ancestry definitely bought him some leniency but no where near as much as the technicalites of the situations Irban knew of. Hence why he said he wished he knew more.
"Because I couldn't go for three"
Michelle doesn’t find this funny guys.
10-0 and a chance to go 11-0...
Wait until she finds out that was what happened to the $10k she thought they gave to Courtney.
Wasn't a loan, she stripped for it...for mrs. H...the mrs h told tom payback is hell!!
I didn't realize Mensa had strip clubs.
To be fair, the job application for a Mensa Stripper requires a PhD and a pair of Double-Ds.
Which in Mensa is abbreviated as PhD^5
Well you know what they always say. "What happens in South Beach, ends up affecting two high profile college football programs four years later."
AKA the Horseshoe, the Shoe, and the House That Harley Built
And ironically not the one that is actually in South Beach. Miami got off completely scott free for the Nevin Shapiro scandal years ago when the NCAA should've thrown the book at them.
Who cares. Is there something illegal about going to a strip club? They are adult men on the road. It happens.
The morality police condemning Urban Meyer.
Then it seems contradictory for us to make a big deal about it if we're unhappy about morality police condemning Urban Meyer.
Big deal as in we are outraged he would attend one, I agree with you.
Big deal as in its hilarious to see him dragged into this after his actions in starting it, I find that awesome.
There's not any evidence Tom Herman even went to the strip club. This whole thread is grasping at straws. Who cares if Tom Herman went to a strip club or not. Taking things beyond that by saying, "What *if* he paid for a recruits' coaches' lap dances?" Big if and extremely presumptive. Not even worth discussing. Making a big deal of this is not going to help OSU's image by drawing more TMZ-like coverage. We need to move on.
And possibly the NCAA. They were there with high school coaches.
And they dropped some serious cash there. I wonder if Texas Tom paid for a stripper to give one of the high school coaches a lap dance? That's what you call impermissible benefits....!
Who cares? I'm no prude, but.. these are married men. I'll bet their wives care-- a lot.
What a fine way to build trust and respect in a relationship.
They were both adult married men with children at the time so I'm sure the wives would've been not too thrilled with them for it if they had known (which it sounds like Courtney Smith knew about most of Zach's strip club visits).
Haha that’s fantastic. Won’t matter in regards to jobs or anything but still delicious.
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best
Can we put a moratorium on Zach Smith information. That douchebag has done enough damage to the university in the football team as far as I'm concerned. If I never hear another story about him for the rest of my life I'd be fine with that
This was on Herman's Facebook.
Hahahaha this is gold.
If you could just mount a dong on Smith’s noggin, that would be HOF material.
Since Tom was in a position of authority at that time, shouldn't this visit be pinned on him?
Yes. What a twist: Herman is actually the ginormous POS. Regardless, wouldn't want to be him right now with this news coming out...
Hey great it hardly rights the ship for Ohio State's reputation.That Zach Smith played no small part in putting in the shitter.
Boy, these Texans sure are disgusted with the punishment Urban got. They sure seem to be throwing a lot of stones right about now...
Careful with those stones Texas fans. Has anyone confirmed if Herman apologized to the victim of which his player beat the living shit out of? This is all I can find.
“We are aware of the situation with Demarco Boyd and have suspended him from all team activities at this time. We will continue to monitor the legal process and pending its completion, determine any further action.”
Asking for a friend.
Longhorns are not only douchebags, they take great pride in it.
My question has kinda been asked. Is there an university by-law that prohibits faculty and staff or coaches from going to a strip club? Maybe something Urban instituted or anyone else? I have been picking up that there may be something, off handed social media responses and what not. I could see how a situation could arise as problematic.
Perhaps not against school rules. But if they took high school coaches with them then that seems to be an NCAA violation. And if they paid for said hs coaches to get special favors while there, that could be a bigger problem. I'm sure there is no way to prove any of it though.
Fair answer, I can see why being a faculty member or coach it would be wise to stay away. Others kept eluding to some restriction on such places fully, not just "hosting" other coaches.
Thanks for the answer.
I’m just ready for all of it to end. Tired of hearing about ZS and CS.
I don't have enough helmet stickers because I am new but I would love to upvote this thread. consolation +1
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So you are proving he is not the tipster. Ok. CS is the one, she copied the receipts and screen shot her own stuff. And Mcbuttwipe cropped things so you can not see context or anything else.
Ft. Lauderdale? Let me guess: they were on a visit to see Torrance Gibson. If I recall, he was waffling on his commitment at about this time. The gift that keeps on giving...
Speaking of.. whatever happened to him? Last I heard was CFL, but not a peep after that.
Because I couldn't go for 3.
How's the COC work for assistants? If smith was the WR coach and Herman the OC, would Herman have been his superior?
That's pretty damn funny.
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
I never wanted a NC more than this year. Imagine the heads exploding when Urban holds up the trophy with a big smile.
So last week Michelle said her and Tommy give money away all the time because it's not like $10,000 is going to hurt them. Tommy just was following the philanthropic motto of his wife and giving money to poor "college" girls.
Let Meatchicken Beat Meatchicken!!!!
Hey, I had a tree come down and chainsaw’d it up. Black locust, I believe. Good burning wood, right?
Quality shade job.
Pain of Discipline
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Take Your Pick
So what if Smith and Herman were in a strip club? Most guys, me included, have. I was on a business trip years ago in NC with 3 other guys and we went to one where if one of us was a member, we could all get in cheaper than the regular admission. So, I became a member, using my boss's name. Wonder if he ever got any discount coupons in the mail?
Nick Saban, is that you?
It's almost like no ones perfect and all this tabloid bullshit does nothing but make media parasites money.
ZS and Mensa Tom had a reported falling out. Was it because ZS had to bankroll Tom's lap dances?
Just because Herman was there doesn't mean anything bad took place, maybe his wife is ok with a look, don't touch policy.
Fuck it!!! Let’s just “out” everybody!!!! If you’ve got a shady story bout a coach, share it!!! Let’s burn the whole damn thing down!!!! everybody EVERYBODY everybody EVERYBODY!!!!!!
You slick little sleuth you!
Have to admit I’m kinda out of the loop on Herman except for a reporter’s story that he may have helped bring this to light because he was pissed over Wilson coming here. Any other stuff come to light?
Maybe.....just maybe the Herman's gave CS $10k so she didn't spill the beans on 'ol Texas Tom back in 2017.
My guess is she knows way more about the party boy antics of TH and ZS then has come to light at this juncture.
Herman was probably the guy that told Urban. It's hard to imagine Tom hanging out with Zach when they aren't on the clock as they don't seem to be BFFs.
LOL!!! The circus continues =D hahaha
Go Buckeyes! #TeamUrban..
I really don't doubt any of the story about Tom and Zach, strip clubs and whatever else. They were very close when they were together at tOSU. For whatever reason, their relationship flamed-out when Herman left for Texas. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this whole mess was done by Herman to get Zach fired or even up a score. The only thing that I will miss about Zach is that he was a very good recruiter for us, especially with some of the higher profile kids. Coaching was not one of his strengths.
Does anyone think that this could cause the NCAA to look into it a bit further? If he was taking high school coaches to strip clubs and paying for them, that could be seen as trying to influence recruits coaches to convince their kids to come to OSU.
Gee, as an avid member of the honest press corp, I don’t see anything at all wrong with taking high school coaches to a strip club and purchasing alcohol. I will of course totally talk trash on my talk show and persecute coaches who have only alledgedly, and without any proof whatsoever and no police record, possibly condoned domestic abuse even though I had no idea of it myself until another moron, er, top notch reporter searched for 5 years until he finally came up with it.
Texas' Herman ID'd as Smith strip club partner - via @ESPN App https://t.co/WWwr2SfxNJ
— Adam Rittenberg (@ESPNRittenberg) August 29, 2018
At least ESPN is just reporting old news now. Not faux outrage news.
I've never said I 'hate' anyone because that would imply I had any emotion for them whatsoever.
They should have went to a gentleman’s club instead so their membership could have protected them from this news getting out.
Yeah, not sure why it matters much at all. Did not then and do not now. It could be a potential NCAA violation but it would nearly be impossible to prove.
Been sharing this story as much as possible, Google Searching, & clicking any links out there. Tom Herman Strip Club would be a nice trending topic. Change the narrative from Urban. This story is not going away, so might as well deflect back to a well deserving scumbag like Tom Herman.
Read this drivel about how Ohio State "did Tom Herman dirty" by releasing his name.
Wait, first the media (and GenPop) wants every single detail about Zach Smith's life, but now they're accusing OSU of throwing people under the bus that were actually involved in the details of Zach Smith's life? FOH with that hypocrisy.
Not surprising. By big 12 writer (from KU) at the big lead, a USA Today site.
Tom Herman's wife Michelle's last 3 people she followed on Twitter...
An Austin Based Public Relations Consultant
What a time to be alive lol
— Jeremiah (@SYRmotsag) August 28, 2018
Tom Herman's wife Michelle's last 3 people she followed on Twitter...
An Austin Based Public Relations Consultant
What a time to be alive lol
— Jeremiah (@SYRmotsag) August 28, 2018
The media is so wild. They are making a big deal about grown men going to strip clubs. The only people who should be upset by this is are their spouses, especially if they did not know about this. I am not going to be hypocritical and bash Tom Herman for this, but I have to laugh that he too is caught in this circus after taking jabs toward Ohio State.
This fake outrage is getting out of control and no one is speaking up about it enough. The media just wants people to lose their jobs rather than actually doing their jobs and reporting the facts. It is getting harder and harder to tell the difference between TMZ and the main stream media.
Actually I read the Dan Murphy piece on ESPN last night (I know, I actually clicked) and he mentions Herman in the first paragraph. I haven't heard any outrage regarding Tom Herman. The entire rest of the piece trashes Urban and dissects the report released yesterday. Even mentions Urban's quote "I will not tell the media" with no context whatsoever.
I am not really surprised then because Urban is their big fish. I am eating lunch and espn Outside the Lines is on. The girl who bashed Urban and Ohio State after the verdict was read on BTN is discussing the case lol. If that is not bias, than I do not know what is.
I saw that too and laughed. The click bait title below:
Texas coach Tom Herman joined Zach Smith on 2014 strip club trip
Mentions Tom in the first sentence then the other 99.9% of the article had nothing to do with Tom.
Isn’t Dan Murphy the one who interviewed ZS but made it all about Urbsn rather than ZS? And isn’t he the one who asked Ryan Day about the Urban case just moments after Day said he wouldn’t cover that topic? He’s really trying to keep up the trashing of Urban.
The last part is one of those things the media gets to be upset about because somebody is hiding something. Even though everybody does that. Even with day to day things, you just don't talk about some things with certain people. Just the way it is.
If something illegal or something was done it is an issue but that it gets blown up so much is a bit wild.
For many of these guys it will always be the case that Meyer lied and they will hate him for it. True or not.
They allow MENSAs into strip clubs?
news to me
There's a lot of counting when you're only working with 1's.
Mannn... Zach Smith snapped on twitter. I mean damn. Either he is wrongly accused or a shitty person. Not sure yet which.
A real man makes his own luck.
-Billy Zane in Titanic
So I’m hearing that McMurphy said it was “bush league” for Ohio State to reveal that Herman went to that strip club. He is the most sanctimonious hypocrite I’ve ever heard, and that is saying something.
So the guy who saw fit to publish someones amazon order history finds an issue with privacy and identifying a coach who went to a strip club? Interesting take @Brett_McMurphy Hypocrite much? https://t.co/A7tbNMrAMO
— Matt Finkes (@MattFinkes) August 29, 2018
Lol. Bret should be taking home most of the awards. I would say unfair but they are well deserved.
Yeah most of the universe knew it was Texas Tom anyway. And if Ohio State wanted to go bush league they could've done way worse. Sounds to me like ol' McFillintheblank is a little sensitive to one of his sources being maligned.
It kills me that all of the news outlets got pissed at Ohio State for saying it was Herman and not just keep it anonymous. They said it made it look like OSU was trying to steer attention away from them and onto Herman. Like no you fucking morons, OSU confirmed it was Herman because it was already confirmed via Zach Smiths Instagram post. OSU wouldn’t have outed Herman if it wasn’t already public knowledge. Do you fucking jobs you losers. I haven’t been as hard on the media as some on here have, but when it’s clearly obvious that you didn’t do any actual research then it’s you’re a lazy SOB. Like how long has 11W and Reddit known it was Herman? A week? ESPN reports it yesterday but since an OSU spokesperson confirmed it they just then run the story and make it seem like OSU had no reason to reveal the identity. It’s fucking absurd.