Zach Smith Met With Investigators Tuesday For “Several Hours,” According to a Statement From His Attorney

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Stinson's picture

good. 

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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Squirrel Master's picture

Not exactly sure how I feel about the use of that gif. He dies! Much too close to Urban been fired for OSU to be free after the fact.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

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Noahkat's picture

every man dies... 

but not every man truly lives...

#freeurban

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Go740Bucks's picture

Is it odd to specify he didn't refuse to answer any questions?

"The future is bright at Ohio State" - UFM

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Buckeyeincleveburg's picture

No. He’s been accused of very bad crimes and they are demonstrating he has nothing to hide.

I’m more intrigued by the committee being thoroughly prepared.

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Go740Bucks's picture

I get that, but this isn't court. Just thought it somewhat odd.

"The future is bright at Ohio State" - UFM

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maximumblitz's picture

Written records of what he said could be subpoena-ed by PPD, or journalists, or etc.  So it is a big deal

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BuckeyeJay's picture

Only a court has subpeona power. What in the world are you saying?

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booj's picture

you're right about the subpoena. he's right that if it's an ohio state document it's subject to foia requests from journalists.

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Wildragei's picture

The “F” in foia stands for federal and this is a state document which has other laws that pertain.

ok not really it is freedom but Ohio laws still apply not federal

Wildragei

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Chic'sGhost's picture

That's the point. In court you have to answer, in a private questioning, you don't have to answer anything. Many witnesses would choose not to answer certain questions, especially where they might expose themselves to criminal jeopardy or civil penalty.

"You're welcome for the house I built."

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stuckinSouthBend's picture

Don't let McMurphy, Forde, Wetzel, Finebaum or any the the rest of the mob hear you say it isn't high court. Self proclaimed arbiters of sport.

Scarlett & Gray > Blue and Gold

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Extramedium's picture

More importantly, Zach isn't the one on "trial." The committee isn't ivestigating what Zach Smith did or didn't do.  They are trying to figure out if Urban Meyer acted according to university policy regarding the accusations against Smith.

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Brohio's picture

No. In Godfather II, Tom Hagen made sure to mention that Michael Corleone answered every question and did not "take the Fifth Amendment as it was his right to". It worked for Michael. Maybe Zach's lawyer is a big Pacino guy

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Brutus's picture

So is  Gene Smith the Frank Pantangeli in this scenario? Someone has to (figuratively) die after all this.

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Brohio's picture

Yes. And Gene's in for a big surprise when he turns around

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Hovenaut's picture

Without disregard to the seriousness of it all, I got a good laugh out of this.

Well done, Bro.

I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...

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Buckets At Fletcher's's picture

Gene strikes me as less honorable than Frankie Five Angels. Pantangeli offed himself to spare his brother and so that his family would be taken care of. I don't see Gene falling on his sword for anybody 

"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."

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mr.green's picture

Zach answers them all. Truthfully? Unlikely. 

The guy is a liar.

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buckeyepastor's picture

It helps a lot that pretty much all of the accusations against him ended with “and no charges were filed.”  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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Schizo's picture

"No comment" is still an answer. 

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Hovenaut's picture

Here's to moving forward.

I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...

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NHBuckeye's picture

Free Urban. 

Unleash Hell.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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nm_buck's picture

logged in to UV this

"The future is bright at Ohio State."  - Urban Meyer 1/1/15

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jdjgrant's picture

Didn't refuse to answer a single question and his attorney was present ? Excellent.

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ashtabulassassin's picture

For real. Bring back ZS

Buckshots... always there for you if you missed the news last month

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stpetebuck's picture

He cheated on his wife and admits it.  But He’s  talked his way out of several police calls and one OVI. He’s a top award winning recruiter. And he’s passed 2 background checks since leaving Florida. I wouldn’t  be surprised if DeBevoise and Plimpton LLC  hired him. Job interview?  

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USMC11917's picture

Is that light I see in the distance?

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GIBS_STI's picture

To be a fly on the wall in that room. Yikes. 

Fortune favors the bold.

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RBloodworth's picture

According to the statement, Smith "did not refuse to answer a single question"

Please, God, can he have NOT said anything stupid or easily proven as a lie?  Pretty please?  I know I'm asking for a lot now.

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NoVAsmitty's picture

I feel the same, especially when I’m sure his attorney told him as they walked through the doors into the conference room before being confronted by the Committee, “just remember, you aren’t under oath.”

“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman

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analyticalguy's picture

If something is easily proven to be a lie, then the investigators should be able to do so. Smith isn't "on trial" here, which means that him hedging the truth wouldn't necessarily be a problem (for Meyer).  I suppose it's problematic if something else he says would potentially helpful (to Meyer) but there is no independent verification of the statement from someone who has otherwise proven to be untruthful.  It doesn't make things WORSE for Meyer; it just proves less than helpful.

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tracyre's picture

Well you’ve proved your handle name! Well done argument!

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Extramedium's picture

This entire thing is so into the weeds at this point.  No one cares what Zach did or didn't do.  The only thing that matters is what Urban knew, when he knew it, and what he did in response to it.

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Bum juice's picture

I really hope this over with before sunday. I cant take anymore! Free UFM!!!!

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DibbleDabble's picture

It's almost over.. hang in there Bum Juice.  

"Vision without execution is just hallucination."

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GlassCityBuckeyes's picture

Will be having some special occasion bourbon when Coach is reinstated.

23 Saturdays till kickoff

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RBloodworth's picture

Is there already a cocktail called the Bourbon Meyer?  If so, I may have to invent it.

EDIT:  NM.  You guys beat me to it in 2012.  I might have to try that out if the news is good.

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Phillips.449's picture

I searched and could not find it. Do you happen to have a link RBW?

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mt10277's picture

Can u teach McMurphy how you did that?

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BeaverOhioBuckeye's picture

I have some Cuban cigars to share

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Stinson's picture

I'm going to the Varsity Club the night he's reinstated. 

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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CCatanzaro's picture

Maybe Zach will DD for everyone? 

Dairy-fed intellect and pure, unhinged sass.

 

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goodlifesean's picture

He's gonna need a job, whats the moratorium for OVI and uber

Have you ever seen a fierce animal who you were sure wouldn't bite? Because I haven't.

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J Ry's picture

Yes it will be pappy 15 worthy when we get our coach back. 

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buckeye_chick's picture

I have a bottle of the Sinatra select Jack Daniels at the ready.

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buckguyfan1's picture

Wishing I was a fly on the wall.

Simplify...

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buckguyfan1's picture

right next to Gibs.

Simplify...

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Zeke85's picture

Please God let this be the end.

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Buckeyeincleveburg's picture

Oh, I think they should interview their mothers.

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Bigmarty's picture

If they don't, they could be telling us they have "made a decision" of some kind in their minds already.  I think it is a mistake not to have their interviews as part of the record if they were going to decide in Urban's favor. 

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Extramedium's picture

What do the mothers know about Urban Meyer following protocol?

Zach Smith is NOT the one being investigated.  They are not trying to figure out what happened in Zach Smith's home life.  

All they need to know is what Meyer knew, when he knew it, and what he did next.

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wigmon's picture

I see your point, but doesn't the definition of "knew" mean that there is veracity to the accusation?  I think "knowing" there was an accusation is different than "knowing" there was any truth to it and what the mothers state would be relevant to the later.

I know some seem to think that point doesn't matter and that no matter what the accusation is and no matter how unfounded, he would be required to report it.  I think the language in the contract and Title IX (which doesn't apply here anyway) isn't that clear.

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DaiTheFlu's picture

- Every Michigan fan ever

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

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You can't spell chump without UM's picture

Next up, they'll interview Zach Smith's babysitter when he was 6.

Don Brown must've attended night school, because he got owned by Day.

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Buckeyebull64's picture

She’s been placed on leave also

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Major H's picture

At $1620.00 an hour, I'm sure they will leave no stone unturned. 

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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AnaheimBuck's picture

Is that another way of saying they will work every paid minute of their 14 days?

AnaheimBuck

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Homey1970's picture

Isn’t that the price for an official 10 minute OSU tailgate...for 3.5 people?

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MaximusDMeridius's picture

At that rate... they'll find another 2 weeks of stones that need turned.

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Buckets At Fletcher's's picture

McMurphy has texts of Zack telling his baby sitter that Koala Bears are ugly, and he hates unicorns. That son of a bitch. /s

"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."

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BrewstersMillions's picture

Just edited. It's not koalas. It's Pandas.

Proudly dispensing unbridled arrogance since 1983.

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Bum juice's picture

Maybe im reading into it to much, but i wonder if his lawyer worded that way because cs didnt answer all of her questions??

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

How would his attorneys know that though?

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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maximumblitz's picture

Well, they didn't brag about it, so it is a small way to convey your message to the jury pool

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tcm1968's picture

Nah, he's just saying good/bad etc ask me.. nothing to hide...  open book.. fire away..

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JSH0717's picture

I was thinking the same thing. In both statements there was some type of hidden meaning, was trying to find it as well. 

GO BUCKS!

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booj's picture

Looks like they're actually on track to make their deadline, which i find very surprising.

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skinnytrees's picture

They will meet it because that is when the predetermined funding ends (of which they will get every last cent out of).

We are talking about something that is already on the books costing more money than the state spends on anything but capital murder cases. If they fire Urban and he sues them it will be the one of the most expensive payouts the state of Ohio has ever had.

All because of a he said she said situation started by a person that intentionally tries to trespass a spouse with the kids there.

Lunacy 

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armynurseboy's picture

With the length of time that the committee gave itself, it seems to me that most of the evidence that they needed was already there and that they just needed to get some additional pieces from the involved parties to sort out the particulars.  Not sure if that is good or bad, but if the evidence showed it was an obvious case where Urban was lying about following proper procedure, and simply covering for ZS, they wouldn't need the full 2 weeks to publish their findings and recommendations.

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NOBLUE's picture

i think they should interview the gardener

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EnonBuck79's picture

Professor Plum has yet to be questioned as well..

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CowCat's picture

Just clear Miss Scarlet. She had nothing to do with it.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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BigRonStudd's picture

Glad that’s done with. Time to put a bow on this thing and reinstate Urban. 

If you’re lucky enough to be a Buckeye you’re lucky enough. 

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TPMBuck's picture

I keep thinking of this song for this situation

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Homey1970's picture
This whole ordeal is like driving cross country with my old lady riding shotgun.
There’s something bright and shiny (and blonde and tanned) right out my window.
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PhillyNut's picture

If your old lady is Beverly D'Angelo then what's the complaint?

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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Extramedium's picture

Exactly.  Aside from the Ferarri, I think he's already in a better situation.

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Homey1970's picture

I get it with D’Angelo.  She’s a Upper Arlington native and her grandfather designed the Shoe.

However, Christie Brinkley is 63 in this pic....63!

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CowCat's picture

Wrap this nonsense up already.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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urban86's picture

Figure Paulina Dickbaum will have something to say negative to say, provided he can crawl out from under Nick Sabans desk.

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LandonTruckedCollins's picture

Saban has a very tight schedule, so unlikely.

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OSUBias's picture

Have you seen those child sized desks?!?!

Braving the long dark of the offseason

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Brohio's picture

Ready the BOOMS boys. Almost time. 

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RocknRollover's picture

Did the investigators meet with Urban?  I don’t recall anyone reporting that they met with him.

Seems kind of strange if they didn’t considering he is the focal point of the investigation. 

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booj's picture

usually you leave the subject of the investigation until last, using the fact-finding from previous interviews to guide that questioning.

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westy81585's picture

It's also very possible he was interviewed and no one said so (which is almost certainly the smart thing to do in this situation).  The only reason we know Courtney and Zach have been interviewed is because their lawyers told everyone.  I suspect the investigation team has questioned more than 2 people in the 10+ Days they've been working.  

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Canukbuck's picture

Said it before and I'll say it again - Urban will be leading the troops by this Saturday - no suspension .... hope OSU runs the table and takes home the NC this season and sends a photo of the trophy and a "Thank You" card to Arsehole McMurphy for providing the incentive to win the whole damn thing !!!!

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BrutusB's picture

Uh, if they need to incentive to try to win all their games we might have bigger problems. 

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Mirin's picture

no but it couldn't hurt right? Meyer is the master of motivation.

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nm_buck's picture

nothing wrong with having a little extra incentive to play hard

in 2014 those kids played their hearts out for Kosta

"The future is bright at Ohio State."  - Urban Meyer 1/1/15

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Buckets At Fletcher's's picture

I think I agree. A short suspension would be the last thing I would do because it would look precisely like a slap on the wrist. I think OSU needs to come out and say reinstated immediately (assuming they find no wrong doing). 

"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."

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CowCat's picture

Urban has already been effectively suspended for the greater part of training camp. That is more than enough punishment for doing nothing other than having a poor choice of words in front of the media.

#FreeUrban

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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Ole Buckeye's picture

I for one am happy to  let the investigators take their time and do a complete, thorough job.  That way, when it's over, it's 100% totally completely over. 

The haters are going to have a tough time crawling back in their burrows when this is done.

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Extramedium's picture

They will have no problem rolling their eyes, calling the investigation a sham and bringing this up over and over and over.   They still bring up Florida and accuse him of lying about his health issues back then.

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brglr14's picture

does anyone really believe anything he said coincides with what she said? for me this still comes down to what the investigators believe meyer did or didnt do.

I dont know karate but i do know crazy and i'm not afraid to use it.

                           

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bd2999's picture

Yeah, I am not sure what they would get out of talking to him and her much other than asking for clarifications and confirmations. I do not think talking to him for this long means much of anything. At least not in and of itself. I am not sure how much to believe from CS and ZS. 

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MichiBuck12's picture

I agree with you here. But what I think is to be gained by talking to Zach and Courtney is to hear first hand the varying accounts of what happened and get a picture of how dysfunctional their relationship is. If they are looking for what Urban knew or didn't know, they first have to figure out what specifically there is to know. You can't hold a guy accountable for "knowing about DV" if there is no DV to know about. From the sounds of things, talking to these two will only reinforce that the only possible thing Urban could know for sure is that they had a very dysfunctional relationship.

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BbBnD's picture

Also ZS’ statement that, if I recall correctly, Gene Smith called him home from recruiting in 2015 about the DV allegation.  That suggests Urban’s superior already knew. It’s awfully hard to cover something up when the person you’re supposed to report it to is already aware. 

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NorthPoleBuckeye's picture

I long for the time when I can turn on my computer and read that Urban has been cleared to coach.

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bd2999's picture

I would settle for talk of football or recruiting or something. 

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Bucks19's picture

The Hurry Up is still posted nightly. 

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bd2999's picture

It is, but it is not really the focus anymore. They do a good job but most posters are not focused on football and recruiting yet.

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Bucks19's picture

Wait.  You said you would settle for talking about recruiting. The Hurry Up is that forum. 

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CTownBucknut's picture

I think you know what he means, no?  Even the Hurry Up is related to this saga, directly or indirectly.  Players re-affirming their commitment, or delaying their decision until the smoke clears, or weighing in on their thoughts about OSU in light of what is going on.  It's just not the same until this is all over.  

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zleach's picture

From USA today:

Smith told ESPN that in October of 2015 he was called home from a recruiting trip to meet with athletic director Gene Smith. He was told by Gene Smith that there were accusations of domestic abuse. Zach Smith said he went to speak to police and then went to practice where Meyer pulled him off the field.

He said Meyer asked for an explanation, and Gene Smith provided his version of the events. He said Meyer told him he would be fired if it was shown he hit his wife, Courtney. Smith told ESPN that he had never hit his now ex-wife.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2018/08/14/urban-meye...

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HotSauceCommittee's picture

If this is the story then this should have wrapped up in a few hours. 

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Buckets At Fletcher's's picture

Who are the national jackasses on 105.7 radio after the local show. They are STILL saying Zack Smith was "beating the crap out of his wife for 6 years and Urban let it go." How in the world could anyone honestly convince themselves that that scenario could be true? Honestly, there is no way I would believe that about Saban or Sweeney or even Harbaugh. Nobody is that stupid or heartless enough to keep someone like that around.

"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."

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buckeyepastor's picture

Not even Courtney Smith is saying that happened.  Personally, I think Zach Smith was a horrible husband with serious anger issues and impulse control problems.  For that alone, I’m glad he is no longer at OSU.  But even Courtney Smith has no blackened eyes, no swollen cheeks, no fat lips or concussions or gashes or big bruises to offer.  Photos of arms that have been held tightly during struggle, and photos of the neck area once being held during a struggle.  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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PsyBuck's picture

A little intrigued they would spend "hours" interviewing ZS. I mean I guess that could be as little as two but the implication is definitely more than that. Considering their investigation is supposed to be centered on Meyer, I wouldn't think there would be hours of material there. That leaves me thinking they might be looking for a way to distance the school from the media narrative about having a DV offender on staff. In other words, they may be looking for a way to be able to safely come out and say "hey we don't think Zach is an abuser" in hopes to maybe take the edge off the media.

You know, or they could just be milking their $500,000 budget. All I know for sure is this weekend or whenever this announcement is coming can't come fast enough.

"No we don't give a da*n 'Bout the whole state of *ichigan"

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Buckeyeincleveburg's picture

I can’t see the committee declaring no abuse happened.  The most we can hope is they say it was too complex for OSU to have determined there was abuse given also no charges filed.

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PsyBuck's picture

I can't disagree with you on that. But even if they can come to the point where they can say that it was too complicated, that would be a big deal. To those with grey matter left better their ears, that would translate to "Zach Smith wasn't the monster the media said he was"

"No we don't give a da*n 'Bout the whole state of *ichigan"

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Stinson's picture

This investigation isn't about whether abuse happened or not. 

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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Buckeyeincleveburg's picture

I’ve always thought that but they have apparently spent quite some time with these two.

i think tho

is whole thing draws you in like a train wreck, you want to look away.

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Bucks19's picture

Why wouldn’t you spend hours interviewing him? He’s the meat of the whole investigation. 

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PsyBuck's picture

My point was that if the committee was only trying to determine what Urban knew and what he did with that information, that wouldn't take "hours and hours". I agree that it makes sense to interview him at length if they are trying to determine wtf actually happened throughout this whole mess.

"No we don't give a da*n 'Bout the whole state of *ichigan"

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TheVictoryBell's picture

Urban will be back with the team soon then!

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GoBuckswin's picture

Did you hear Paul Finebum take another shot at OSU when he was talking about the Maryland situation today? He was comparing how the Maryland president was taking full responsibility while he said it was not that long ago at OSU that Gordon Gee said he hoped Jim Tressel would not fire him. Someone should tell FInebum that aside from Gee making yet anther situation far worse with one of his awful attempts at "humor," Finebum is comparing one situation when players were selling/trading their OWN property for tattoos and cash with a situation in which a young man DIED on the Maryland practice fields doing sprints. Now tell me that ESPN does not have a anti-OSU bias.

Bucks fans in Mass

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awlinBrutus's picture

I wish you hadn't said that. The resident espn apologist 1. 2. 3. ........

MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS

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CincyOSU's picture

I wish you hadn't said that. The resident espn apologist 1. 2. 3. ........

Hi.

And explain how I defend ESPN? Think about it.

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buckeyeupnorth's picture

Maybe Paul ought to look at a calendar and realize that it's 2018.    

Gordon Gee hasn't been president of OSU since 2013. ( He's now president of the University of West Virginia after coming out of retirement). Jim Tressel was fired by Gene Smith in 2011.  Jim Tressel took a five year ban for cause from the NCAA and the university self imposed vacating the 2010 season, offering to lose five scholarships for the next year and returned all bowl money. The NCAA added a post season ban on 2012, three scholarship losses for three years. 

Because a coach lied to them and to Gene Smith and Gordon Gee. I'd say OSU definitely took responsibility commensurate to the crime,which as GoBuckswin said, wasn't even comparable to Maryland's "oversight". 

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CowCat's picture

Good points, GoBuckswin.

If Urban is reinstated, it will be fun watching these pundits either A) whistle and pretend nothing happened or B) keep digging a hole for themselves with the largest CFB fanbase in the country. Personally I don't care either way.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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buckeyepastor's picture

Whether Meyer is reinstated or not, next College GameDay on OSU campus is gonna be a little tense.  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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TXNut2488's picture

Didn't think about this...no chance they are going to C-bus this year. They will do GameDay in Arlington, TX for the TCU game and consider that the OSU game they travel to.

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CincyOSU's picture

Now tell me that ESPN does not have a anti-OSU bias.

They don't. Period. The end. Unless you believe that EVERY other sports media outlet has an anti-OSU bias because they are ALL saying the same things.

You know how you can tell confirmation bias runs rampant here? When Gottlieb spewed out his nonsense, it was Gottlieb, not Fox, that was responsible. When someone like Finebaum says something, not only is it Finebaum saying it, but the entire ESPN network as well. It's actually quite comical.

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BbBnD's picture

Nobody, even the fans, view OSU or any other major program without bias. Anyone that thinks they do is kidding themselves. 

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buckeyepastor's picture

I would agree in part.   I think media has a bias towards generating conflict and getting under people's skin, because that gets them talking about and commenting on things, which drives revenue and promotion of the network.   I think there is something to the fact that ESPN and the other networks are going to lock onto an OSU controversy like a pit bull even if other schools have far more serious problems that merit attention because OSU "brings the eyeballs."  You're right that it's not just ESPN, but all media outlets.  

That said, I don't think it's something where ESPN goes out of its way to take the B1G down a peg.  But the truth is that there are conferences whose success is a financial windfall to ESPN, and there are conferences whose success is a financial windfall for their competitors.  OSU and the B1G fall into the latter group.   All things equal, while all media outlets are going to ride this story for the eyeballs and attention it brings because of it involving Ohio State, I think ESPN is more interested in this sort of story affecting Ohio State than they would be with a similar story affecting FSU, LSU, Georgia, etc..   

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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OldTownBuckNut's picture

“‘a fool, but an honest fool.” -Gandalf

Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.

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311 buckeye's picture

Apropos 

Do I have to put something down here?

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Turfgrad's picture

C'mon down Urban, c'mon down to the field.

"I think Alabama would beat Ohio State if they played next weekend!" Clay Travis Fox Sports Post Championship Show 1.12.2015.  Needs no explanation.

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Buckeye boys's picture

Ok so with this all said , what is a real case to happen 

urban gets fined and a game or more or less what do you all think ???

Ttun sucks

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buckeyeupnorth's picture

IF he reported this as he was supposed to do, he shouldn't get any fine. Or suspension. Because he followed procedure. 

The questioning of Smith has more to do, IMO, as to whether the university followed his contract, current Ohio employment law, and privacy laws when they fired him. And whether he was obligated to inform the university of any law enforcement interaction he has had, regardless of the outcome of it.

I'd laugh my rear end off if the lawyers recommend he be reinstated as his firing was , in their opinion, illegal.  I doubt that happens, but there is a reason his lawyer was there.

Don't forget, Greg Schiano ran over a bicyclist on campus, sending the person to the hospital. Schiano coached later in the day, ended up cited and had to go to court for it. Then he was accused of hiding pedophilia at Penn State several years ago in a law suit filed against Penn State by Mike McQueary for wrongful termination, which then cost Schiano a head coaching job at Tennessee. 

He's still on staff at OSU( as he should be). But the media uproar over both of those incidents could have cost him his job at OSU had they been as tenacious as they were against Meyer this time.

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29Bucks's picture

As the song goes..."Wake me up when it's all over..."  I sure hope this doesn't turn out to be any more of a nightmare than it's already been.

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Buckeye boys's picture

My guess is Friday around 5:00 pm we hear urban is staying as coach of The Ohio state buckeyes .News will Carry over the weekend and Monday , then we can all move on and enjoy the start of the season . But urban needs to be very careful for the future there is a lot of people looking to get him out because he is a winner . Go bucks 

Ttun sucks

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buckeyepastor's picture

Agree.  I think this comes out late Friday afternoon.  Whether Meyer stays or goes, the final report will be a “news dump Friday” situation where they will want to get an official statement out and then be “out of office”

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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Meat Chicken's picture

Enough is enough!! Free Urban Meyer. This clown show of a witch hunt is beyond stupid. If it wasn't for out of control political correctness then this issue would have simply been just a mention by the media.

Again, free Urban NOW

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GoBuckswin's picture

It is not just ESPN by a long shot. On the national radio shows on XM radio they were going on today about ZS and the situation at OSU. I wanted to call them today and ask what is more serious: (1) Coach A is on paid admin leave stemming from a coach on his staff alleged to commit DV three years ago, although said WR coach was not arrested, much less convicted of DV; (2) Coach B, also on paid admin leave, presided over an atmosphere that allowed an hour to go by before calling 911 after a student-athlete passed out running sprints and died a couple of week later.

   If you agree that what happened with Coach B is more serious, and I think any rational person would, why are they still talking about  OSU far more than Maryland? (a) They hate OSU and (b) much better ratings to talk about OSU and Coach Meyer.

       One guy on the radio said that the judge went easy on ZS in 2013 b/c the judge was a graduate from OSU. First of all, being the largest university in the country, there are OSU graduates in every field, especially in Ohio!. Second, the reason why ZS did not get jail on that offense and there was a plea deal is b/c he had NO prior OUI offenses. That is the biggest factor when the DA and judge consider sentences--has this defendant already committed this same act in the past? According to the radio host the only reason ZS did not do time in 2013 is b/c the judge wanted to give him a break b/c he was on the OSU staff.  

      I really hope that the OSU administration realizes that the people that hate OSU will always hate the university, even if they fire people over this. Urban Meyer has already paid too steep a price with this paid admin leave. He should be reinstated ASAP and I think Gene Smith should also continue as AD. The police investigated and did their job-there was no cover up by anyone at OSU

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ashtabulassassin's picture

IF the DV allegations are false then he needs his job back. I think punishment for DUI's in this country is far too low, but if he's been clean now for years... geesh... have to forgive at some point. 

Also IF he is the victim here and the story of his wife trying to murder him with her car is true... man do we react differently when the DV is on the other side. Nobody even mentions that he was apparently the victim of attempted murder. Maybe a bit more sympathy? 

Buckshots... always there for you if you missed the news last month

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buckeyepastor's picture

Pretty sure that his hiding of the DUI/OVI charge by itself is something that would mean a suspension or firing.   But I hope that Smith, going forward, can return to coaching.  Pretty much his entire career has been with Meyer or former Meyer assistants.  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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Bigmarty's picture

Having been a prosecutor of OVIs for over 30 years it is not uncommon to have a first time OVI refused test reduced to either a physical control or reckless operation misdemeanor of the 4th degree    Speeding doesn't mean much as many, many people speed without having a drop , depending upon the quality of the video, if any, and the nature of the driving, weaving..Usually the subject has the same penalty as the OVI and is on probation for a period of time and attends the same 72 hr. ovi program that any 1st time ovi offender is forced to attend.  If he gets stopped again and refuses the test after probable cause is established, his probationary time is revoked and he serves the remainder of that suspended time(same applies if he is convicted of an OVI).  Can't tell from blurb if any or none of that happened in ZS case.  His refusal suspension would stay in place. Don't know the facts here and if he appeared drunk, etc.

I can tell you it is part of the Canons of Ethics for prosecutors to plea deal when the result is nearly the same and the facts are in doubt.   As explained by the Supreme Court in the Canons, trying every traffic case would bring the entire court system in Ohio to a schreeching halt.   

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bd2999's picture

I find it a bit hypocritical about the Maryland thing. I agree they are handling it well but they had to take responsibility based on the information available at the start. OSU it is not really that clear and is getting messier all of the time. The cover up stuff with the judge is just nonsense. People are believing it but they are doing so based on speculation. 

I still think Meyer is likely out because of various liabilities, but this has been handled horrible. The University would be trashed even if they made a statement. Because it was not clear what was going on initially other than one report. 

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ShodanBuckeye's picture

Don't bother responding to this Troll. He/She responds dozens of times in every thread just so they can slip in the "passive" suggestion that Urban is going to be fired or will probably be fired. He/She has never once even admitted that there could be real good reasons for Urban's actions, and that he was justified; or has She/He ever mentioned anything positive w.r.t. Urban being retained.

Time and change does surely show...

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bd2999's picture

Not passively saying anything. I have said over and over I think he will fired. I have also said I do not think it is right. I hope I am wrong.

None of that makes me a troll. And yes, I have been too involved with this. I agree with that, but not a troll. I have been pretty involved around here for quite some time.

We have too many posters in group think mode in these parts anymore.

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bd2999's picture

Potential legal liabilities through the violation of University policy, potential liability through Title IX (though a stretch at this point) or liability through the public. Not to mention potential future events that could open legal troubles or new investigations.

All that would need to be weighed and would be considered a liability. In one of the other threads somebody posts to a nice article where a lawyer from Forbes discusses it all at length in a fairly evenhanded manner.

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wigmon's picture

Specifics, what liabilities?  I think you've admitted you don't know what the evidence is (none of us really does), so with no known evidence, I'm asking what you are stating the known liabilities are at this point.

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dc215833's picture

Mother Teresa could be the coach at Ohio State and people would still hate Ohio State, lol. 

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Buckets At Fletcher's's picture

For me, the hate is a badge of honor. People hate winners. They hate the team that crushes their will season after season. Think about it. Does anyone bother hating on programs like Northwestern, or Iowa State, or Syracuse? The answer is no because those teams are doormats that haven't taken anything from anybody ever. Seems kind of pointless to hate them. They hate OSU because we win and win often. It comes from jealousy and a sense of inferiority.

Of course this doesn't really explain my hatred of Notre Dame because they too are a doormat but I still hate them. Hmm, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."

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dc215833's picture

Alright. My message to this "committee is I want an answer by the end of day Wednesday. Because to me, if you exhaust the full 14 days to conduct your investigation I feel it's just to show you're trying to justify the $500,000 in cost. We all know you had your answer last week. Don't patronize us !!!

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buckeyepastor's picture

Two other reasons they wait til Friday.  One, since it was estimated to take 14 days, if they wrap early some media bozos are going to run with the story that they didn’t take DV seriously enough.   Second, whether Meyer is suspended but reinstated or fired, they are not going to want the announcement made with two business days left in the week for the media to drill the school about it.  When you want to announce something and be done with it, you announce on late Friday afternoon at close of business day and let it run its course during the weekend when people are unavailable for comment and odds are by Monday some other news story has grabbed people’s attention or at the very least the pressure around the story has mellowed.  This has “news dump Friday” written all over it.  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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Buckeye boys's picture

B2999 is not a Ohio state fan and would love to see urban gone ! We should just ignore b2999 !!! As for urban we should hear Friday around 5:00 pm that he is coming back with a fine and maybe a 1-4  Game suspension . Not because he is wrong but the media made a big deal out of this and in this life you gotta give a little to take a little.  If he gets suspended up to four games I don’t believe you lose any of them you’re more than capable of winning those four games and you have pleased the haters .we can all move on and stand strong as buckeyes ... 

ps b2999 likes the ttun 

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bd2999's picture

Who are you? I see you joined 6 days ago, so how do you even know my posting history outside of this matter? Just wondering, seems like you have an axe to grind against me and I do not get it.

P.S. You are not spelling by username right.

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ncinthenext3's picture

So, they talked to her, they talked to him.  What's left?  Talk to Urban and Gene and verify the paper trail of reporting.  Get this damn thing over with.

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Buckeye boys's picture

Bd2999 I have been with  11 warriors from the beginning ,just never posted nothing.  joined  because of trolls like you who constantly are trying to upset fans by saying urban Meyer will be fired .you have never said nothing positive at all over this entire situation ,all signs point that you want urban Meyer fired .which all signs point that you definitely do not like Ohio State .  Go through a lot of comments you are being called a troll ,you are being called a Michigan fan ,you are being called all kinds of things ! but one thing you’re not being called is a buckeye . Why do you want to be this guy, you would be better to go back to your blog on maize and blue and post about your team there . 

BD2999  don’t eat chicken because he thinks it’s a nervous bird 

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GoBuckswin's picture

I know a lot of people have posted that OSU will announce late Friday afternoon that Urban is back, etc. Yes, announcing that at the end of the work week makes sense for many reasons. But, I ask you, has the OSU administration handled anything well during this media storm? Also, I think certain OSU administrators might be worried that they will be criticized by the media if they make their findings known right before the weekend. 

   If would help if OSU administration stopped worrying about bad PR--people that hate OSu will always hate us. Do what is right and let Urban return now with no suspension. He did nothing wrong and this is the just thing to do. 

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Buckeye boys's picture

Agreed gobuckswin . They laughed at us when we lost the sweeter vest and thought we was going to lose a lot of games . They did not give osu any respect for losing are coach and a bunch of players and a bowl band and they loved it when we went 12&0 and could not play for a championship game . They went about there way laughing like we pushed them and we fell for it . But not again we have a coach that helps the young men ,that help the community ,and helps bring joy to Saturday for family and friends . Urban never hit no one and he already said he is sorry for big 10 days . The media thinks they can push till he gets fired then they would laugh at us and move on . The media I seen did not mention how they want to help Dv they would rather see him fired then raise 1.000,000 to be given to help women in need . If a poll came out and said urban fired or osu donates 1 million and urban donates 1 million and every coach has to go thru a DV seminar and players raise awareness by wearing something while playing games like they do for other things which would help change Dv however they would take firing urban a nothing else .laughing at us and move on and do nothing for Dv .So it's a joke urban is are coach put him back in and we stand to support him . 

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SilverState's picture

fwiw. (probably not a lot)

"There's still some green showing before you see the chalk."

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