Cutting Down On Penalties in 2018 Would Be a Welcome Change of Pace for Ohio State

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JTstan16's picture

Must be nice to have corners that actually turn around and make plays at the ball instead of grabbing on. 

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BrutusB's picture

I don’t think these are as bad as it looks. The high numbers for Rutgers/UNLV/Maryland tell me that a lot of these mistakes are being done by inexperienced backups. That’s just part of the learning experience. Hopefully we get more games like USC/Wisconsin when it really matters though. 

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TNT's picture

I though the same thing initially. But 9 against Oklahoma and Iowa tell me it's an issue that extends to our 1st string as well.

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Huskerbuck's picture

Not to mention 10 against Penn State. Very costly especially against quality teams. 

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BrutusB's picture

Iowa was a blowout loss for most of the game. Some lack of discipline will be expected from 20 year olds in those circumstances. Oklahoma is troubling though. 

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Buckeyeincleveburg's picture

But there was one specific penalty in that Iowa game that came at a crucial moment and felt like it determined the course of the rest of that game.  Yes, the targeting call that resulted in an Iowa first down instead of 4th down and the ejection of our best defender.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

I wouldn’t jump to conclusions about these being backups getting penalties.

Looking thru the play-by-plays, and the Rutgers game was awful in the first half. The Buckeyes had 6 penalties in the first quarter alone (holding, 2 illegal blocks on punts, roughing the kicker, false start and 2 offsides). And some of these were veteran players (Baugh & Bosa). They had one more penalty in the second quarter for an illegal formation. The penalties in the second half were unsportsmanlike conduct (T-Mac), and then a pair of defensive penalties by back-ups. 

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bucknut1994's picture

2017 6.9

Would be nice if we have less penalties this season.  

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SilverHaven's picture

It's not just the Bucks. 
Last year TTUN had 3 penalties on one play against Indiana. unfortunately the Hoosiers could only accept one.
Also TTUN had 11 penalties in the 1st half.
Video proof:
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/10/14/16475974/michigan-i...

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Buck61's picture

keeping kickoffs in play would be a good start

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Major H's picture

^^^This^^^

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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Spivan's picture

Also getting the review on targeting calls correct...

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Huskerbuck's picture

Thanks for the stats. It has been frustrating to watch, especially last year. It is time to turn this trend around. I little more individual focus play by play will help. 

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BIGonTHEbuckeyes's picture

When you play close officials sometimes call you, sometimes it`s best to take the penalty. 

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Sanantonefan's picture

It would be great to have less penalties. I'd be interested to see how many penalties were in crucial situations, i.e., in a close game, in the red zone, in short yardage, etc. Some penalties are more costly than others, just ask the 2002 Hurricanes.

That being said, being a more disciplined team with less penalties would be a good thing.

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D-Day0043's picture

I agree, not all penalties are equal. In certain situations, like if a corner is going get burned for a touchdown, I would rather see them get pass interference than give up a touchdown.

When you lose, say little. When you win, say less.

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Buckfrombirth's picture

And that’s without JB Shugarts (sorry, couldn’t resist the easy joke).  Wow, Bucks need to clean some sh*t up. 

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martin anderson's picture

The coaching staff has to take some of the responsibility for the players playing with a lack of focus and discipline.

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bakerjon's picture

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Silver Sniper's picture

I recall during the Tressel era I saw a stat that jumped out at me: During at least a theee year stretch, the opponents of the Buckeyes were the least penalized in all of college football. So, either for three years in a row, whenever someone played the Buckeyes, they played super-disciplined, or there was a bias that was at play.

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OfficerRabbit's picture

Perhaps a little of both, I tend to lean more towards opponents playing disciplined. OSU is circled on most every team's schedule, it's natural they'd bring their A-game.

 

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Silver Sniper's picture

I just thought that seemed implausible that that could be true three years in a row

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NOBLUE's picture

none of this is relevant its all in the past..you can only move forward

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82spencer's picture

The stupidity in your post is astounding. 

I don't believe in no-win scenarios

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I'm curious. Has there ever been an opposing player that's been ejected for targeting against the Bucks? Seems like every questionable targeting call goes against OSU, but meanwhile Parris Campbell gets concussed on the very definition of the rule against Nebraska, but it doesn't even get reviewed.

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Buckets At Fletcher's's picture

Not that I can remember. Still waiting for it to get called on our opponent. The fact that there was not even a flag on the Paris Campbell hit says volumes. Even the goddam announcers were blind too it. Five replays and all they wanted to talk about was whether he fumbled. Stunning.

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martin anderson's picture

I remember when Troy Smith was hit in the head by a Michigan defender during their 2006 game. The Michigan player would have been called for targeting with today's rules but instead was called for a penalty allowing OSU to continue the drive

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

It would be interesting to see the makeup of each team with respect to the classes/experience of the starters. I wouldn’t be surprised to see youthful exuberance and inexperience being contributing, if not causal, factors.

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D-Day0043's picture

My biggest pet peeves as far as penalties are: A false start on a wide receiver. You are looking right at the ball! How can you jump? And targeting. If the refs can review to see if it was intentional and overturn an ejection, then they should be able to overturn the penalty as well, if it’s a bad call.

Generally, teams that are highly penalized, are poorly coached. I don’t feel that way about the Bucks. A lot of times some of these refs just want to get face-time on television and make a bunch of ticky-tack calls.

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

Even WITH focus and discipline, penalties will happen.  It’s a part of the game.

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82spencer's picture

This article wasn’t written because they committed occasional penalties. The point is the amount of penalties is trending in a dangerous direction and may have contributed significantly to our losses last year. 

I don't believe in no-win scenarios

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Gratefulbuck's picture

Cold play on the article title

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Horvath22's picture

It would be interesting to know if is typical of Urban Meyer coached teams. Bowling Green, Utah, Florida? It might just be his style: "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead." Also would be interesting to know Alabama's penalty stats. 

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BuckInNashville's picture

That’s one aspect that makes sense to check (torpedoes), but the. other I wonder about now is how many delay of game penalties were called where the play just doesn’t get called in time from the sideline.  Or it comes in so late the qb is left holding the bag.  

I find those to be maddening - especially when you’re running a read option sooo often.

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BuckeyePat's picture

It's not a fluke that the year with the least was our year with the most success. 

47-3

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Chark's picture

While the pass interference calls are troubling, they are the byproduct of an aggressive defense and will happen occasionally.

I'm even more bothered by the significant number of false starts when on offense. These almost always seemed to kill what started out as a promising drive.

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SilverBullet-98's picture

The refs and Vegas control it all.

"The Past Builds the Future"

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Buckeyedoc99200's picture

Too many yellow flags playing against an inferior team is going to bite you in the ass eventually.

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Browns88's picture

Going backwards is not good.

Browns88

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Steelydan54's picture

Looking at the national rankings it appears that in the worst years of penalty yds per game we were ranked near the bottom nationally.  I'm ok with aggression that leads to the occasional error/penalty as long as we are in the middle or higher of the rankings. 

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

If asked how important reducing penalties is, I wonder what Urban would say. If it's important what will get a reduction ?

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buckeyepastor's picture

Not worried, mostly.  I think the holding penalties will be reduced some if Haskins is as decisive and fast on getting rid of the ball as many are anticipating.  I loved Barrett for many, many things.  But when he held on to the ball a little long and kept scrambling about, which was often, that makes holding more likely.  OLs aren’t meant to pass block for 7-8 seconds without cheating a bit.   

PI calls and the occasional targeting is here to stay, I think.  We are an aggressive, physical defense.  That will lead to some penalties.   The DBs should be better this year at turning and finding the ball without grabbing, but they will still play with a lot of contact.  And a team that plays fast is going to have an occasional late hit or hit to the head, given the speed they are playing with.  

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Earl_Bruce_Era's picture

Would like to see a break out of what I consider "dumb" penalties (illegal procedure/illegal formation/false start; delay of game; kick off out of bounds). Also does the kick-off OOB translate to 35 penalty yards?

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