Summer Shakeup: Resetting Ohio State’s Top Targets Following Flurry of June Commitments

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Txsbuckeye's picture

I bet eleventy hundred helmet stickers that Steele ends up at LB. If there is a question of where he ends up, we can find a better running back. 

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Hovenaut's picture

That'd be an interesting switch... especially if Kane Patterson joins the S&G.

I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...

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Silver Sniper's picture

We have no shortage of talented RBs in the stable and have no problem recruiting them. I’d like to see his athleticism at LB, personally, as we could always use more playmakers at that particular position (we learned last year).

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TraptnMI's picture

I'd rather have Chambers remain at rb, his low running style and incredible balance is second to none. But hell, why not try him at lb. Love me some Cane. ichigan is going all out on Noah. They're calling him a must get.

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65 Toss Power Trap's picture

Kid pulled a "hammy"..at the OPEN.....they heal but never are the same. The first "hammy" is a prelude to a 2nd "hammy"

Damaged goods

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65 Toss Power Trap's picture

Noah Cain at the Open last week

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va_buck's picture

The staff solved Lattimore's hammy issues with state-of-the-art technology.  So maybe not all is lost...

VA_Buck

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WildBear Buckeye's picture

It's weird that this class, at 13, already seems to be winding down outside of WR, OT, and Harrison. I suppose the roster is already really young overall.

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BengalErnst's picture

I agree. I would actually really like to see this class max out around 20. 

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Andrew Lind's picture

For what it’s worth, I don’t foresee anything less than 21 at an absolute bare minimum. That’s simply just taking Harrison, the remaining wide receivers, at least two more tackles, one true linebacker and one tight end or defensive tackle. 

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BengalErnst's picture

21 is a number I’m fine with. I don’t see much of a point in taking a project along the OL just for depth purposes. The 2020 prospects will be ready to go before any of the projects in the 2019 class. Only way I’d take Rouse is if we missed on Keegan and Wright. 

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

I can easily come up with 21+ open roster spots.

Graduating seniors -10

NFL draft departures - 7
Bosa
D. Jones
Jordan
Webber
Sheffield
Arnette
Austin

Urban's "no 5th years for non-starters" unofficial rule - 4
Alabi
Cornell
Hilliard
Hamilton

Injuries - 1
Transfers - 3

That gets me to 25 open roster spots.

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BengalErnst's picture

I can definitely see 25 as a possibility as well.. but I don’t want that. Lol. I’d rather keep those 5th year seniors for next season and bring in a bigger 2020 class without the roster management 

Nicholas l Ernst

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

Yeah but knowing Urban I think we're going to see a minimum of 21 members of the class and as many as 25/26

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WildBear Buckeye's picture

I don't see Mack leaving with a year of eligibility left unless he is an obvious first rounder. I'm as excited about him as anybody, but he has a LONG way to go. Don't see any point in Jordan leaving either, unless he's projected as a first/second rounder. So far he's gone from weak point to no worse than the next guy, but he's far from a standout. Arnette, Webber, and (to some extent) Sheffield make sense simply because they'll be pushed from behind buy really good guys. Sheffield's ceiling is at least as high as Ward's though, so it's hard to see him losing snaps even to Wade.

The no 5th year list is extremely harsh. The rule is more like "no 5th years for non-contributors". Hilliard has a good chance to start this year and will at least contribute. Plus he's lost two full years to rare injuries. Alabi and Cornell are important depth guys. They aren't going to deny a 5th year to guys on the 2-deep. Hamilton MAYBE, if he gets passed by Garrett, Jackson, and Togiai. But DL gets rotated a lot, so they need to go deeper than two.

Transfers and injuries, yes, so I think they'll get to around 20. But 25 would be very hard.

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Seattle Linga's picture

Andrew - any surprises in your crystal ball?

Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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Andrew Lind's picture

Powell, for sure. I was told he wanted to play QB in college, but he was just absolutely blown away by Schiano and the plan they have for him at defensive back. His athleticism and length is very intriguing.

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Seattle Linga's picture

Thanks - I'll keep an eye on this one. Is Herman in his ear as well ??

Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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65 Toss Power Trap's picture

Everybody wants to play QB.

Pick a position where you have the potential to make the League.

Problem solved.

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High Street Street Fighter's picture

Momentum is strong in the 2020 class with top commits seemingly with strong recruiting abilities. If we miss on top targets in 2019, I hope we park their spots for the next year. There's so much top talent at OSU, that there's no need to "panic" if we miss a couple guys in 2019, and having Paris and Wray in 2020 takes a lot of pressure off if we miss on Wright and Keegan this year.

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Bucks19's picture

 We still need another OL or two this year. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

1000% agree. The good news is if we don’t get Wright and/or Keegan, with Johnson and Wray already in the bag for 2020, taking a couple 3-stars like Allen, Moore or Rouse becomes a lot less of a concern.

In that scenario, who’d be the odd man out? Moore because he’s a guard and we need tackles?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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awlinBrutus's picture

Under Tressel i don't remember OSU boards talking about recruit rankings like we do now. Just kinda hit me. I agree with your post btw.
I hate saying it but Zach Harrison is the proverbial absolute must get. He's a difference maker. A man among boys. Once in a generation player, potentially speaking. He's also a must get because of who his apparent 2nd fav is.

MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS

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Woodshed's picture

Once in a generation. Joey bosa is in his generation. So is Myles Garrett, etc....

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iowabuckeyes's picture

While I agree "once in a generation player" is perhaps the worst kind of hyperbole because it's about potential and not results, the biggest and most obvious difference between Harrison and Bosa is Harrison is a local kid while Bosa was not and had he gone to FSU or Florida or Alabama or someplace else, we wouldn't have looked at it the same way that we will if Harrison bolts Columbus, least of all to go to Michigan or PSU. Ohio doesn't produce many Top 5 players nationally, least of all at DE, which is a position where one player can be a difference-maker (which is why it's one of the top 3 highest paid positions in the NFL along with QB and LT), and that's why it would hurt more to lose him, especially if he pans out as projected.

Combine all those factors--local kid, top 5 nationally, game-changer position--and I'll say Harrison's potential has him flirting with "once in a generation" status.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Woodshed's picture

Once in a generation from Ohio.

i wouldn't argue that.

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BengalErnst's picture

I agree completely. There is no reason at least in my mind to take a reach at OL just because we feel like we need a certain number of guys there. Take 2 only if it’s Keegan and Wright, then only take a project if we miss on Wright and Keegan.

Nicholas l Ernst

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Bucks19's picture

 Couple intriguing scenarios. 

 Sounds like the two TE  prospect don’t have committable offers?

Allen on hold?

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Stover and/or Young could end up at DE. Chambers could be an RB or end up at OLB. Then again, they might not. To be safe, I’d like at least two true LBs. Patterson would be one: I like his game a lot. Then take our time with the other and see who emerges (Jamir Thomas, Dez Cooper), maybe the next Darron Lee. 

Although I’m intrigued by Trotwood-Madison 3* Justin Stephens, I’d take a hard pass on TE and wait to see where Blue Smith is in a year. 

What’s the concern with Davis’s weight? He’s listed at 293. With our depth, I think Harrison-Hunte is worth the risk as a project at DT.

Give me Powell and call off off the chase at DB (although I wouldn’t kick Nick Cross out of bed, figuratively speaking).

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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okiebuck's picture

Looking good so far; obviously need Harrison. Must be the weekend for recruiting updates; Tulsa World online has one about OU’s top ten class as well. 

The only hard day was yesterday

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dvo45's picture

Dawkins will end up at DT

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

Why would Zach Harrison commit to a school in Michigan that's going to lose its head coach this off-season?

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KBonay's picture

Turn up the heat on Elijah Higgins.  Dude can play WR and also line up at TE.  He's a match-up nightmare.  And he's not the same mold of receiver as the other targets.  We need this guy, IMO.

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

There's a DE from Kentucky who's highly rated. He's a commit to ttun. On 247 web site he's a couple spots beneath Harrison. His family would save gasoline and time driving to C'bus versus AA. Might be worth renewing our interest. Maybe we end up getting both.

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awlinBrutus's picture

I like your thinking BF.

MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS

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BengalErnst's picture

Unfortunately he was an early commit for them and has been drinking the kool -aid  pretty heavily.. unless they have a terrible season or there is a firing I don’t see him going anywhere 

Nicholas l Ernst

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Hanawi_'s picture

If Herron switches, it will be Stanford. 

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ELJTSA76's picture

Also there’s Alfano, from NJ, who is currently a Bama commit. That seems kinda bizarre to me - and I wonder if he would listen if Schiano called and started trying to flip him?

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Woodshed's picture

I don’t know details but he has some issues allegedly.

issues that caused lots of schools to back off of him, including osu.

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65 Toss Power Trap's picture

DE is such a vital position. 

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gobucks1966's picture

I'm not a star watcher but qb is a weak class this year. I get the feeling other positions might be weak this year too and not a strong class over all. Lot of 3 stars with offers at position of need .

Denny

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Hanawi_'s picture

Kind of feel the same. Other than WR and maybe DE, it isn't a great class. It's also a weird one for OSU since so many top guys are in states that they don't recruit very well (Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, California) or where the competition is really tough (Georgia, Texas). The rise of Penn State under Franklin has also hurt them in the mid-Atlantic states. 

I think the staff made a conscious decision to go after more athletes than can play multiple positions looking for a kid that develops well and use this class as a bridge between "better" ones. Still going to end up top 5-10 class and I'm intrigued by some of the lower-rated kids that appear to be great athletes without a solid position.

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

There's high 4 and 5 stars at all positions. I also noticed the large number of 3 stars being offered. I think it's like a fisherman casting a larger net. Many 3 stars offers could not commit without several phone calls and careful cooperation with our staff.
Due diligence to offer though.

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TraptnMI's picture

Wandale Robinson is a Swiss army knife. One hell of an athlete

" It's real good whatcha done Anthony, real good ! "

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Switzerland hasn’t been in a war in a couple centuries so while they make a good knife there, their army isn’t much to speak of.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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THE SHRUG's picture

Most people in Switzerland have a gun and enjoy shooting.  They actually have a really good armory and obvious high ground defense.  During WWII, Hitler skipped it because of the extreme losses he would have taken.  They were prepared for an attack.  You are right about army size and attacking ability but they were ready to defend their country.  If you are pro Second Amendment, you wont find a better example of how gun ownership doesn't correspond to gun crime.  Also, I realize you were just setting up the gif but Switzerland's history and relationship with fire arms is pretty interesting.

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TraptnMI's picture

Very interesting. Was unaware.

" It's real good whatcha done Anthony, real good ! "

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TraptnMI's picture

LMAO!

" It's real good whatcha done Anthony, real good ! "

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gobucks1966's picture

We need Keegan and Wright along with Harrison and any combination of these elite wide receivers. Then cherry pick and life will be good.

Denny

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