Samuel made a smart investment - the Jugs. And drop stats can be hard to dig out. But the official OSU football site scores "pass dropped" data withinn thier play-by-play report for each game.
Turns out Campbell had only one official drop in the 2017 season. Baugh had 4.
1 drop in more than 50 targets. Impressive!
Zone6, with rotating WR's, will have 1000+ yards at all 3 WR positions this season
I saw Samuels at the Panther training camp last summer. There is no questioning his desire to improve and raw athleticism. He just has to avoid the injuries that hampered him last year.
Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72
Saw an SI article on QB Patrick Mahomes who's dad was in the Majors for 11 years. Said he grew up in MLB clubhouses. And he would watch guys like Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter habitually show up 4+ hours before game time and work non-stop on their skills.
Schizo and I used to show up hours before game time as well.
But we showed up to watch... at a bar... that always filled up early....
But we showed up to watch... at a bar...
Practice makes perfect. Elbows need a workout, too. ;-)
I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes
Speaking of showing up at a bar - do yourself a huge favor and catch CarolinaBuck's Paul McCartney post on "Anything Else".
Fascinating! We should have a whole thread about this stuff.
Or many more threads.
At least until all the former non-WR types on the site figure out that Zone6 is LOADED with NFL level talent. Particularly Campbell, Dixon, McLaurin, Hill, Victor, and Mack (with more waiting in the wings)
And nice ESPN piece on Mount Union as the "Cradle of Coaches".
Anyone who doesn't like Paul Keels' announcing can fight me to the death
If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special.
Keels is who I want to hear if I cannot watch the game.
Nothing cleanses the soul like a no call pass interference.
Keels is who I want to hear if I can watch the game
Yeah I was surprised to see DJ’s note about people not being a fan of Keels....can’t say I’ve talked to someone who has disliked hearing that voice
A little is better than nada, sometimes you want the whole enchilada
How could you not like the voice...
Not so much his voice, just more his calls/butchering of names, etc. etc.
Los Angeleno by birth; Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.
I would like it better if he
1. never used the word "absotively" (har de har har Paul!) and
2. stopped repeating the player's name so much. "...Craft passes it back out to Buford who shoots.... good! William Buford!"
The second one bugs me because once you notice it the first time, you notice it EVERY time.
On the other hand, for the old timers, I always LOVED Jimmy Crum, and he had his detractors. But I thought he was great. "How about that!!" was his big line.
Jimmy Crum was great.
Now that we're riding in the wayback machine, what I'd like to find is an archive of the Woody Hayes show. I've poked around on YouTube but I haven't had much luck.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
Jimmy Crum was good - the "King of Plaid".
of course,if the game wasn't on TV, we would listen to Martin Petry on WMNI. he was great. That was the only time we listened to WMNI because it was the country station, remember?
I guess we’re mortal enemies then because I can’t stand Paul Keels. He’s got a great voice but his game calls are awful. Living outside of Ohio there are times, especially for basketball, when the radio broadcast is all you get. Keels gets names wrong and even gets plays wrong for football. And his hoops calls border on unlistenable.
My radio listening goes back to Marv Homan, who was good, but my favorite was Chuck Understood, who did the games when WTVN had the football and basketball rights. Gary Hahn did it for a year for WBNS, and he was the worst. Terry Smith was pretty good, though. Keels would be number 4 out of 5 play by play guys in my 50 years.
Terry Smith >>>> Keels and it's not even close. I like a homer announcer, but Keels gets just as excited (or just as likely, monotone) for an opponent's success and when the Buckeyes score, for instance. Yawn.
And don't tell me Woody Hayes wouldn't be beaming if Martell, Weber, and Dobbins all went for over 100 yards rushing in a win over Michigan.
I think that many, many OSU fans would be beaming.
As long as we have the win over Michigan. I don't care how we get there.
The medical examiner said he had the brain of a 65-year-old, which is really hard to take
I wonder what that specifically means. It can't be the 65 year old is full of physical injury.
The brain shrinks in size as we age. There is also a thinning of the outer membrane associated with aging and the amount of white matter is also a factor. Lastly the chemical quantities such as with serotonin that are associated with memory capabilities change as we age.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
Interesting. But I don't think it applies equally to everyone. My dad is almost 93 and is sharp as a tack, as was his mother at her death at 92. Hope some of this is genetic. Keep learning new stuff folks!
I'm planning on learning to play steel pans at 65.
Can I assume you have seen the study about the nuns and crossword puzzles? It has been nearly 20 years since I saw it or was even concerned about it.
Damn. Just 4 months to go for me. It's been great hanging out with all you guys... at least as best as I can remember.
don't forget to file for Medicare @64,9
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I’m all for that two back set. Dobbins should be the feature but Weber will for sure have his place in the running game
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
Wow Lebron looked like an athlete in those pics. Not some fucking hipster douche canoe wearing an awful fucking outfit. He’s not even the worst offender but I’ve got to ask WTF has happened to the NBA wardrobe?
IIRC the NBA implemented fines for not wearing suits in certain situations. The players try to express themselves inside the current rules, . . . and you get what we have here today, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it . . . Some people you just can't reach.
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I can't wait to see Weber and Dobbins. This offense is beyond loaded with talent.
I have been saying all spring and summer that I want to see a triple option look with Tate/JK/Weber. It would not be the flashiest to most people, but would be deadly to the defense tasked to stop it. Add in the RPO with short crosses or the TE up the seam and good night Irene, no way a defense will have enough guys to stop it. Not every play a la Georgia Tech, but even if you run it say three straight downs, and each guy carries once in the three plays, you would have tape for every subsequent opponent to watch and fret over.
"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen. I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie
now wait a second... i know a lot of 65+ people who are much sharper than alot of 30 yr olds
Another interesting round of WMDs today.
No sympathy for the douchebag who injured the waitress from Philly.
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
The amount Englesbe has to pay was decided within the context of his personal wealth.
Not sure why, but this makes me dislike the sleazebag even more.
I tend to roll my eyes at huge jury awards and did so when I read the headline link here....then I read what happened.
Yeah screw him.
I did the exact same thing. I think its justified in this case. Blows my mind that people think its ok to act that way.
The part of the waitress WMD that jumped out at me was this:
In a 2014 report by the Restaurant Opportunities Centers of New York, 65 percent of female restaurant workers surveyed said they had experienced sexual harassment by customers.
I don't know which is more depressing: The fact that two-thirds of waitresses have been sexually harassed by customers...or the fact that I'm actually surprised it's only 65%. I'm not female, but in my years of restaurant work, pretty much every waitress had at least one story of a customer crossing the line.
The 65% doesn't surprise me in the least-the 35% who reported not being harrassed are probably the old school diner types who would stab an idiot w/ a fork if he tried something. Good for the waitress, but the story is hardly shocking. It's not about being all "woke" #metoo, it's about not being an asshole and acting like a gentleman-or paying the price.
I waited tables to help pay for my education. I started off in fast food, went to a “family” restaurant (no alcohol) and ended my career at a large downtown hotel’s rooftop restaurant. When the #metoo thing started, I told the hubby that if you’re a woman and you’ve worked in a restaurant for more than a few months, you’ve been sexually harassed. Guaranteed. I never experienced it from co-workers; usually I found that the guys I worked with respected you if you knew your stuff. It all came from management and customers. My theory was that these guys spent all their time getting de-balled by their wives, their bosses, their girlfriends...and now, by God, they’re going to give it all right back to someone who gets paid a shitty wage to take it (“the customer is always right” shit). Oh, the responses you get to “May I take your order, sir?” A total power trip. It was a big incentive for me to stay in school and get my degree so I wouldn’t have to put up with that crap anymore.
I had many oversized sweatsuits from 2003. Pretty much my full wardrobe. A few I can remember off the top of my head
• SouthPole (at least 4 sets, 1 being velour)
Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted.
The best thing about that Larbon pic?
Ohio State was the defending National Champions.
Triple option? I'm still waiting for the diamond formation and still waiting for Braxton to throw that option pass his senior year.
No kidding. We were all waiting for that one. Did we ever find out whether Meyer just didn’t call a pass for Braxton, or did Braxton just not want to throw (and communicated as much to the staff?)
Hold on. I just checked Wikipedia and it seems he completed one pass in 2015... did I blink??
Was probably a sweep "pass"
I know I drank a lot during the 2015 season, but I also feel like I would have stopped yelling at Braxton to pass the ball even if I drunkenly saw him do it.
It may have been a pop pass (flipped forward a couple feet to a motion receiver for a jet sweep). I can’t fully remember - I don’t recall him throwing downfield though.
Because Wikipedia has never been wrong...
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
College Footbal Reference also has Braxton down for 1-1 for 3 yards in 2015. Still trying to locate the when and who, but in one case Wikipedia may be right. Go figure.
According to https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/braxton-miller-1/gamelog/2015/ it was against Northern Illinois
I was at the NIU game, and I have no recollection of the pass happening. How sad for me and my brain.
We have now gotten this far (via espn play by play)
1st and 10 at NIU 18
(7:30 - 1st) Braxton Miller pass complete to Jalin Marshall for 3 yds to the NoIll 15
Here you go, guys. In all it's glory:
So unsurprisingly it was a pop pass. I have the game on dvr but did not have a chance to watch it yet today to find the play. Nicely done KL
Indeed, superb research gang.
Id like to imagine that this bit of trivia will come in handy for each of us one day. Hopefully monetized and on a game show somewhere.
Sadly, when I do trivia I've generally had a few potent potables. Meaning I may remember this, but I wont remember it well.
Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever. -Falco
Thunder/Lightning/and a Vortex.
They are waiting for the UM game to really bust open the playbook.
Noob. I'm still waiting for Ted Ginn to throw one.
The Jose Ramon Diaz wmd is a fun one about the World Cup. I must say I am not a big fan of living an eating in a homeless shelter to save money for a sporting event, but the ingenuity is impressive and it would be great to be in Russia to see matches live.
I would still bet on Samuel being a force in the league, even before his JUGS purchase. The guy simply needs to stay healthy and get the opportunity.
Listening to Paul Keels is one of the highlights of OSU games. I will typically bring my iPod and tune to the radio call even in the stadium, and at home we sync the radio feed to the tv. Much more enjoyable that way.
In a world full of Big Ten Network haves and have-nots, Paul Keels is a godsend.
I did enjoy Terry Smith's calls of the Buckeyes back in the day when games weren't regularly on TV. More of a homer during the games, which made him sound more like a fan and less like an employee.
Keels voice is great and does a great job, also. Just giving props to his predecessor as well.
Years ago I heard a negative comment about Paul Keels. Turns out the guy was a UC grad and was upset he was no longer broadcasting their games. This guy is also a Bucks fan and a few years later he committed on how great Keels was.
How could any OSU fan dislike the OSU announcers?
Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!
Theoretically if the announcer sucks, it's very possible not to like your team's announcer. I personally like him but the complaint I usually hear has to do with his seeming lack of emotion regardless of what's going on, and occasionally seeming to be tuned out of the action.
I also thought Samuel would out play McCaffrey
Man.... how can anyone not like Paul ? He’s the best!
Life long fan of... The!
I think he still will.
McCaffrey didn't exactly set the world on fire last year, and Samuel seemed to be finding his spot against the Dolphins before the injury.
If he can prove his hands are solid, I think he'll end up being the bigger threat.
Lebron's clothes are masculine in that pic. None of it was questionably female. Ahhh, the good old dayz!
The ugly truth is often downvoted
You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight.
I think he means the tights players are wearing these days on the court.
Emphasis on “I think.”
There are only two sportscasters that I have truly enjoyed listening to: Ernie Harwell and Paul Keels. Each was/are fans of the home team. Each had/has great stories to tell. Each was/is fair and accurate in announcing the game whether the home team was playing good or not.
Keith Jackson for me. His voice just meant college football for the duration of my youth, all the way until he retired. Plus I have “whoa, Nelly” in my vocabulary because of him.
On the banks of the 'ole Olentangy....
Keith was my favorite too. Dan Fouts sucks, IMO. I really like when Dick Vermeil and Brent Musberger we're together in the '90s too.
I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.
If Keith had been a radio announcer, I would have included him also.
1. We must not let the two-back debate become fractious.
2. People have been drinking through straws since the Assyrians used reed straws to drink beer from a common vat. They avoided the barley husks and other junk floating on the surface. It's also why we touch glasses during a toast, to signify drinking from a common vessel.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.
Now that the QB debate is settled science, we must find the next position group to debate who should be the starter - RB-Geddon anyone?
I'm somewhat surprised that people expected Samuel to out play McCaffrey. From everything I saw of McCaffrey in college, he was robbed of the Heisman Trophy. That guy is a baller, who played through a lot of injuries and still set records.
"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott
McCaffrey is a great example of a tweener back in the NFL.
He's not big, he's not blazing fast. He's 5'11'', 202 lbs. He ran a 4.48 40, which is meh for a flex/slot type player. He does have great hands, quickness, and gives you some versatility. Granted, the Panthers OL did him no favors last year.
Samuel is bigger, faster, has more tread on his tires, and I think is the better overall athlete. He also made the better decision for his health and career moving out to WR as opposed to staying at RB.
DJ, thanks for posting Tyler’s story, and for making yourself available to anyone who might need help.
In your story, you said:
“Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.”
Suicide is definitely permanent, but it is not a solution. I’m fact, it is far from it.
I understand what you are getting at, but I would hate for anyone reading this article to think that ending his/her own life is a viable ‘solution’ to their problems.
Contacting DJ is a first step in finding a solution. Reaching out to someone, even a hotline, is part of the solution.
Ultimately, finding the solution to the problems that have someone contemplating suicide takes time. Healing takes time. But you are with it, and there are people who are willing to help you! Please reach out for help!
Was surprised I had to read down this far to see a comment about D.J. Offering up his number. You beat me to it though Geraffi. That’s a bigger help than most people realize. Good on you Mr Byrnes!
"Age wrinkles the body, quitting wrinkles the soul" Woody Hayes
Not all solutions are good solutions. I think the emphasis on DJ's statement should be the idea that suicide is PERMANENT, whereas the problems that are causing someone to contemplate it are TEMPORARY.
But I also understand your concerns as to how some pay perceive that statement.
“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt
The Tyler Hilinski story is awful on a lot of levels, and your offer to talk is a big deal, D.J. Thank you. Early in my military career, I had the honor of presenting the American flag to the wife and children of a fellow airman who had committed suicide. Military funerals are typically a mix of sadness, pride, and gratitude. This particular ceremony, and the anguish on the family's faces, was overwhelming, and served as a powerful, sobering discussion and mentoring point for the long drive home.
I love waking up to my favorite socialist loving skull session writer. Great links today.
No matter your craft; you're either getting better or falling behind, you don’t stay the same.
My view of LBJ just kicked up a notch knowing he likes, Mike n Ike’s.
The only hard day was yesterday
Weber and JK keeping each other fresh and occasionally being on the field together will most likely be how they are used. Fresh RBs pounding the ball at TCU, PSU, MSU, and TTUN in the 4th quarter will be glorious as those defenses will be worn out and demoralized.
Ohio State should put in a triple-option package featuring Tate Martell, Weber, and Dobbins in the I-Formation. After tantalizing Buckeye fans with a two-back package all year, Meyer may owe us this one. And don't tell me Woody Hayes wouldn't be beaming if Martell, Weber, and Dobbins all went for over 100 yards rushing in a win over Michigan.
What's old is new. UFM ought to throw in this formation and run a few plays off it with Tulane 9/22/2018 just to throw a scare into Franklin and PSU and force them to think about it in the week leading up to Happy Valley.
Go Bucks. Stealthily.
Tulane runs the triple option. I’m not sure they’d be surprised by it.
Oops! That'd play right into Tulane's defense.
I believe Ramzy is among the Keels haters, if I'm not mistaken.
Priority #1: Beat Michigan
I'm guessing that all you Keels lovers don't actually listen to him on a regular basis. I usually listen to the game on the radio while watching on the TV. The radio signal comes through a few seconds before the picture, so I get a tip off on where the play is going and I can look for the blocking on the play more easily. While Keels does indeed have a great voice, everything else about his performance is well below par. If he says the tackle was made at the 30 yard line, you can assume the ball will be spotted somewhere between the 30 and the 34... not at all accurate. Also, he usually sounds like he's half asleep and he's just wrong on so so many details. If you only listen on the radio, you deserve much better.
Love the Buckeyes
DJ, why are you linking the Atlantic in my beloved WMD section? Lol. I haven't gotten to the star wars story yet but I'm hopeful it isn't some sjw manifesto too.
* I'm just ribbing you a little. What you read is your business.
Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0
This video could easily be a template to follow. Either with Weber and Dobbins, or with one of them paired with either Parris or DMC.
As much as this game hurt, you can't tell me this isn't one of the sexiest plays you've ever seen.
Elliott dots the eye, on this national championship win.
Tre Flowers was 250 lbs. plus and a great blocker. Same can't be said for either Dobbins or Weber. Great play, though.
Great point. They don't have to be 250+, but they both could stand for some improvement on the blocking front. If they can develop into the blocker that Zeke was, then the 2 back system would work better.
I feel like this is a point that is often missed when discussing the 2-back system. They have to both be good blockers or else it won't reach its potential.
Keels was a horrible baseball announcer for the Redlegs. I've never seen someone so out of his depth. I was so excited when he was hired and it was almost instantly obvious he wouldn't make it past one year.
One of the damnedest things I've ever witnessed was DT Shawn Rogers one-handing JUGS machine throws after a training camp session in Berea about 10 yrs ago. He had better hands than the WRs (especially Braylon, screw that guy)
As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster...
Washington State quarterback Tyler Hilinski committed suicide in April.
Washington State quarterback Tyler Hilinski committed suicide in April.
D.J. Byrnes, I take issue with this wording. The phrase "commit suicide" is outdated and judgmental. The proper language is "died by suicide."
"Committing" an act is directly associated with criminals, such as committing murder and should never be used in language with suicide. I realize some people may feel this is overly critical, but words matter. Tyler Hilinski does not deserve a negative stigma. He deserves to be at peace.
This article does a good job of explaining it better: https://www.speakingofsuicide.com/2017/09/21/suicide-language/
Fair point, BradOSU999. I will use the correct wording going forward. Thank you for making me aware.
Lots of respect for your response. Thank you.
The more runs in total for Dobbins Weber and Teague for that matter and the fewer passes thrown, bodes well for the TEAM. It means Ohio State has a safe lead in all games and is being unmerciful to their opponents. Pounding them into submission.