An Old Article on Art Schlichter

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Hovenaut's picture

Didn't realize this was from 30 years ago, a very good read... Schlichter had already been through a ton by that point, with more to come.

Thanks for sharing here, UM.

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IslandBumBuckeye's picture

Hove, you know I love you, but you just used 'thanks' and 'UM' in the same sentence.

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

"It's always scotch-thirty on my island."

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buckzilla1's picture

Could Hov also be Blu.Fan? Details at 11:00.

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Hovenaut's picture

Yeah, but at least I didn't add "Go Bl.."...you get the drift.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

For the Schlichter apologists who want to think he walked on water because he was drafted 4th:

...in the 1982 NFL draft, he was the fourth player selected, the first quarterback. Even Schlichter was surprised. He was picked by Bob Irsay’s Baltimore Colts, a bad team with a tight payroll, who chose him over Brigham Young’s Jim McMahon largely because Irsay had had difficult dealings with McMahon’s agent. “Schlichter was drafted by the owner,” says Ernie Accorsi, then the Colts’ assistant general manager. “Those of us in the football business felt McMahon was the only first-round pick.”

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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cdub4's picture

What does noting where Schlichter got drafted equate to being an apologist in any way, shape, or form. Seems like two different subjects to me.

Where he got drafted is a fact that can't be disputed.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Hop over to the forum thread on the most overrated Buckeye. Scroll down to the exchange about Schlichter. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Not a Schlicter apologist, but a Buckeye fan who had the pleasure of seeing him play live for four years. The kid could sling the ball.

Bash him all you want, but he set records that stood for a very long time at OSU. It was 14 years before Bobby Hoying eclipsed his single season passing yards and career passing TD records. Then another 35 years before Braxton Miller beat his career total yardage mark. And it wasn't until last year that JT Barrett passed Schlicter's career passing mark, with a game total that exceeded Schlicter's. And not for nothing, he still holds the single game passing record of 458 yards. Not bad for a guy who was forced to run option football by a coach, who claimed he wouldn't have recruited Schlicter.

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Hovenaut's picture

I was taken aback at some of the Coach Bruce details within the article, as in having a hard time thinking he wouldn't have recruited Schlichter (you just don't pass - no pun - on talent like that).

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Floyd Stahl's picture

Wholeheartedly agree with you, Navy. He was dynamic on the field and one of the best QBs I've seen suit up for the Buckeyes, if not one of the best players. The hype surrounding him coming out of Miami Trace HS was legit. He was talented enough to supposedly garner a pledge from Woody to start as a freshman if he came to OSU. I still remember him trotting out for the first game vs. Penn State along with supplanted QB Rod Gerald, who started at WR. There was great anticipation about who would start and we didn't know until they lined up at their respective positions. Alas, Schlichter threw five interceptions in that debut, but went on to an illustrious career with the scarlet and gray.

I loved him for leading us to that undefeated regular season in 1979, as well as running for the winning TD against TTUN two years later thanks to Vaughn Broadnax's block that took out two blockers when he seemed like he had nowhere to go. A great passer, but also a great runner. Probably the best dual threat QB we've seen at Ohio State. Braxton was a better runner, but Schlichter was a far superior passer. Schlichter and Germaine were probably the best pure passers we've seen thus far at Ohio State, Haskins yet to be seen over the course of a full season!

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Jason Priestas's picture

What a fascinating read. I read his book many moons ago and the number of people he has boned in life is staggering.

buckzilla1's picture

Con man. I still say that MF'ER had money on the 1980 Rose Bowl. 

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

Here's a related article on Art that describes the hoopla surrounding him before he played at TOSU. Iowabuckeyes and I were vilified for claiming that Schlichter was overrated. But our memories are long, and we remember the sensation he caused in that Spring and Summer of 1978. So the expectations were very high, as noted in the article:

If ever there was an all-American boy, it was Schlichter. A spectacular all-stater in football and basketball, Art was a good student and adding to his virtue was the fact he was raised on a farm and realized the value of responsibility and hard work at an early age.

Chaump took one look at him performing his magic at Miami (Ohio) Trace High and rushed back to Hayes and sputtered, "I've just watched the greatest quarterback I've ever seen and he's playing 40 miles from here."

For more than a quarter-century, Woody had featured the famed "three yards and a cloud of dust" offense at Ohio State, so it was Chaump's duty to talk the old man into a change. It would have been easier to talk him into getting rid of his baseball cap for a chic fedora while stomping the sidelines during a game.

George did a terrific job, not only convincing Woody that the forward pass wasn't a fleeting fancy, but getting Schlichter, who started out not wanting to matriculate to Columbus, to admit, "I like the idea of an Ohio boy turning the Ohio State offense around. I wanted to be the one to make the Buckeyes pass."

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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Hovenaut's picture

"I wanted to be the one to make the Buckeyes pass."

The irony.

Getting an offense under Woody to throw, the completion to Charlie Bauman, and then Earle taking over...who reverted back to using Schlichter's ability to run the ball. 

I barely remember seeing him play (probably the '80 Rose and '80 Fiesta, the games against The Rival), but it's saddening to think what could have been. 

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

Just to underscore the hype surrounding Art Schlichter back in the day, here is a Parade clipping listing him at the top of the prospective HS QB's coming out in 1978:

https://www.newspapers.com/image/?spot=7505324&fcfToken=4433786f69784e2b36714d6e305974546b6b33676c4a474635484e465949424a6256705933424c7270556a634f5769444e2f75324c4e577644486b50574e5877534a45323631534f7170413d

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

I'm of the opposite opinion, Harley. The hype was real. Schlicter was a gunslinger, and his records at OSU stood for a very long time. It took Barrett and Miller to break his career yardage totals. And, he still holds the single game passing yardage record - one that has stood for over 36 years.

I don't think Schlicter was overrated as a player. He was overrated as a person. And he is arguably the biggest post-college bust in OSU history. 

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

One thing I chuckled about in the "Most Overrated Buckeye" post by Jason was the lack of criteria in his prompt. It left us all to hammer out what constituted "overrated." 

I've been looking at Art's career thru the lens of the expectations of 1978, Navy, from forty years ago. I can't believe I'm saying that.

Thanks for your perspective.

Go Bucks.

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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stxbuck's picture

Ryne Sandberg as a QB, and Marcus Allen as a LB on that list. Just goes to show times don't change very much when it comes to recruiting hype and true greatness emerging.

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

Yet, I am not without sympathy for Art. Here's a People magazine article told in his own words:

https://people.com/archive/a-long-road-to-daylight-vol-45-no-2/

Granted, this article was written in 1996 before he had an addictive relapse and went back to jail. But his inner demons are laid bare here.

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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tjshaffe's picture

A good read, thanks for passing it along.  Although, it did make me anxious contemplating that as every day life. I was aware of his struggles, but I was unaware just how deep it went. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Truth be told, I was a sports reporter for the Lantern in the spring of 1983 when Schlichter’s gambling sh*t went down, buddied up with Michael Wilbon, who covered it for the Washington Post and had stopped by the newsroom looking for someone to guide him around town. I conducted a number of interviews with former Buckeye teammates and coaches. Schlichter was generally despised as a selfish prick. It’s a shame: he could have been beloved by Buckeye fans.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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