Let the poor man breathe for a minute. Jesus Christ..
Huge opportunity for Joe. Also, doubtful he reads this article - though he’s probably put more thought into this than anyone on this site.
Agreed, it’s definitey a big decision for him but all I meant was that I’m sure he has a pretty good idea of what he’s going to do.
So we're not allowed to talk about it?
I'm not sure what you mean?
For my money, I think the happiest landings for Joe might be UCLA, Wyoming, or Texas.
Edit: add Boston College.
I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes
I'm going to hazard a guess and say it is either LSU or BC. No rationale given. Gut feel.
I'll strike Texas and add Boston College, SS11. I feel your gut. ;-)
My gut says Florida - that seems like an excellent fit, and I would imagine Mullen and Meyer have already had conversations about him.
“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt
"Wherever he goes the people all complain"
I wonder which team has the best offensive line and set of receivers? If LSU Joe Burrows may have the chance to compete for an NC which would make this coming season even more exciting and eventful perhaps.
Personally I am hugely disappointed that he is leaving as I was hoping he would become the starter. Luckily, as a Buckeye fan we reload better than every other team in the country. I would love to see him play somewhere where he can make an immediate impact at a power 5 conference. Then we meet them in the Natty and Bosa sacks him to win the game..
"Because I couldn't go for three."
That's honestly not a bad spot for Joe at all. Would be guranteed the starting job at UT and would be throwing to three wide outs who will all have over 2,000 career receiving yards by the end of next season - two of which will for sure be in the NFL in 2018 (Cody Thompson and Diontae Johnson). I know OU gets some buzz bc of his roots, but UT is definitely the best option from a non P5 perspective.
Might as well say Youngstown State...........
And get to play against his dad....
m GO BLOW!!!
If I was Joe, and I saw Tim Beck was coaching QBs, I'd run away from Texas as fast as I could.
You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!
My coworker that is an LSU grad is hoping Joe goes there.
I deserved that--it was pretty random and of little interest to most here. I guess I could have added some more background info--what struck me was that he was down in my office asking me about it while I was still reading about it on 11W. News travels fast!
I hope Joe goes to LSU as well, as I usually root for them unless they are playing the Buckeyes. My wife is from New Orleans and I have relatives who graduated from there.
Sometimes I talk to you guys like you are sitting with me having a bourbon. Context is always helpful.
Right on bud, just busting balls haha
I am not easily offended. It's all good! :)
The Advocate is reporting that LSU has been granted permission to talk with Burrow.
Nothing cleanses the soul like a no call pass interference.
LSU would be a great landing spot for him.
Wherever he ends up, I really think, regardless of how Haskins plays, that we will look back as a fan base and see that it would have been fine if this young man from Ohio had stayed and guided our team. Man, this really stinks.
You'll get no argument from me on that score, Ry4.
If JTBIV had gone on with his life's work after graduation in 2016, none of this would have happened. Joe Burrow would have started the year, and if he had gotten injured in that alternate universe, Dwayne would have finished and started this year. But we'd have seen JB actually start and play for OSU, and would have been able to see the differences live and in person, not speculatively in our imaginations. It has been a disappointment for Joe, but I have the utmost respect for him as a young man and a player and wish him a great future in football.
Fellow Buckeyes--it is amazing that people down vote another person who expresses their opinion. Isn't a down vote suppose to be if a person goes overboard with derogatory remarks--maybe too much profanity, etc? Most of these opinions have not been critical or derogatory. They just state their opinion. You don't have to agree with them. Just hit that arrow and tell them you disagree with them. Please do not just download because another fellow Buckeye just doesn't agree with what you think. End of soap box! And as always--GO BUCKS!
Texas isn't happening they already have 2 young and competent QB's on their roster.
Dan Mullen said yesterday he's not interested in Grad Transfers which means he'll probably end up at UF.
I'm not sure where Joe will end up but I bet he already knows, just going to take a few weeks before announcing, it be interesting to see if he visits more than one school, though.
I live in Austin and went to grad school at UT, I don't know who these competent qbs on Texas' roster are that you speak of. Neither will ever be a world beater, rather 8-4 qbs at best. Burrow has a far greater ceiling.
Until Mullen walks into his QB room and sees what is sitting there....
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Maybe Florida. I know the staff denies it, but it would make sense. I wish it were Ohio State.
"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."
I believe Burrow made his decision public so soon, to assist the process for those who may have denied interest. Time will tell!
Emory Jones be like "come the F on man! I came here to get away from the QB comp at OSU."
I think Ohio State should look at a grad transfer as well. Only 1 QB with any experience on the roster and another is a true freshman coming off a knee injury.
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Don’t forget Martell, or you’ll get blasted!
Not sold on Martell. Until he improves his throwing ability, he's basically 2011 Braxton Miller
"The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish" - Charlie Chaplin
At first I thought silly idea. Then I realized after Martell there's an injury Baldwin and a walk on Kory Curtis who I've never ready anything on. One Haskins injury away from holding our breath every time Meyer runs Martell.
People will point to 2014, but that was a fluke. The starter may get hurt, but also losing the backup isn’t a very likely scenario
Don't do it, Joe!
Boy, I got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals! - Butch Cassidy
I think Burrow would kill it at Wyoming under Craig Bohl! His offense is tailor-made for a guy like Joe, and it's obvious that Bohl's QBs are on the NFL scouts' radar.
Ohio by birth, BUCKEYE by the grace of God!
Plus, he'd get to live in WYOMING!
Been there, done that, got the cold weather gear, moved to San Antonio. ;)
Yellowstone National Park, come on man!
I didn’t see any Wyoming games under Bohl but I recall N Dakota St throwing it all over the field.
Yes Wyoming would be a great spot!! I just moved here and it would be great! Been a joe burrow fan even before he committed to Ohio state
Sort of interesting. Seems like a lot of the most logical landing spots put him in sort of the same situation... battling for the starting gig. If you are one play away from being the starter at your dream school and that's not good enough ( I get it) then you'd think for sure your next landing spot is going to be any school that allows you to be QB1 day 1 on campus. Why transfer and end up being QB2? that doesn't make sense.
I think he ends up at a smaller school like Wyoming... ...Wish him the best...!
Burrow may well choose a G5 school to enhance his chances of starting. There honestly is no guarantee that Joe would be handed the starting job at a P5 school after a short fall practice session. A MAC school or even Marshall might fit the bill. Also do not forget the academic side of the transfer. Joe is a good student and will have to consider master's degree offerings at any school he choses.
Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72
He wasn't necessarily only one play away, he could have stayed and won the job outright. I get his decision but it's not like Haskins was named the starter this early.
I believe Florida maybe the best fit for Joe, there's the Meyer-Mullen connection, similar offense, and he would have Trevon Grimes to throw to. Plus they could challenge Georgia for the SEC East title with good quarterback play.
I’d take him over Shea
12-0 and a chance to go 13-0
In another universe ttun still sucks...
We're supposed to wish Joe well and wish Michigan ill.
Off course, I was just say'n.
Florida would be a great landing spot for him. UF hasn't had a reliable QB since Tebow, and the SEC East is incredibly weak outside of Georgia. Burrow would seem like a deity to them.
Tom Brady lost to John Cooper. Never forget.
And it would be GREAT to have a 4 year Buckeye show up and bail UF's chestnuts out of the dumpster fire. Talk about a backhanded payback for "losing" UFM to tOSU! UF could never look an OSU team or fan in the eye again.
Sorry for this.
Lest we forget the ass-whooping we took at the hands of UFM's Gators?????
hopefully LSU. would be nice to see LSU become a power again.
I hope not BC. They don't deserve good players.
Iowa state would be interesting. I would expect Ohio Univ.
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Nothing against Joe, but have to guess he goes to one of the smaller schools. Probably not getting a guaranteed starting spot anywhere else. If you worry about not starting for OSU, you're certainly not willing to be a back-up anywhere else. Wouldn't make any sense. Good luck , wherever you end up, young man.
True, but the competition is not the same at most places, especially UF or LSU. It's understandable that he wouldn't want to risk sitting the bench here when the competition was so tight.
Great breakdown in the OP. I still think Nebraska. I hope i'm wrong.
I would think it's either Nebraska or Ohio.
Go join coach Fick at Cincy......that would be fun
^ best post ever ^
If Scott Frost won't take me, I'm heading to UF and telling Mullen to get me to Dak Prescott's level.
Dan Mullen's response will be to nod and then run him up the middle 25 times a game.
People talk about how Mullen runs Meyer's offense. That's true. In every respect. Down to running his QBs 20 times a game for 3 yards a carry. It's awful.
For Burrow's sake: god, I hope not Florida. LSU might waste his talents *less*, and given the talent that Orgeron and Miles have not-used, that's saying something.
Really? With Orgeron on the hot seat?
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.
Would make sense for him to go to a little smaller school or weaker conference where he can light it up for a year or two and get drafted. I don’t think he’s go anywhere that has a decent QB already, because it would be the same unknown he wanted out of here. The kid wants to play and get drafted. History has shown the NFL will take small school QBs just as readily as those in the P5.
I don’t know what kind of offense Herm will run, but AZ St sounds nice. It will be pro style, with a schedule against PAC12 defenses, and I hear the scenery is nice out there. Plus, you could not play for a better man than Herm Edwards.
Doesn't matter... Wherever he goes he's winning the Heisman.
I hope that he goes to UCLA. The Buckeyes defense put Speights ass on the bench and now a former Buckeyes QB can do likewise.
Let's Go Bucks
I'd like it cuz I live nearby and could watch him play a time or two. Wear my Buckeye gear to the Rose Bowl and cheer on the OSU QB. That would be fun.
That would be great
Most likely to me are Florida, LSU, Ohio, and an outside shot at UCLA.
no one is going to name him their starting qb in the fall. He is going to have to earn it. Is he in for the competition? If not, Ohio University is my pick
I’d like to see him go to LSU if it steers Gunnell to us.
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question: do Graduate transfers go as scholarship players? If so, how many of the twelve teams listed have room for him based on their scholarship 85 limit?
Trust me...they all have room for a QB like Joe Burrow.
The list is crazy. For a back up to have those possibilities is very impressive.
He's not really a back-up if we are being technical. He just had not established himself as the clear starter yet and didn't want to risk not getting the job.
LSU hasn't had a QB worth a shit since what? 2004?
And that guy was terrible in the NFL.
My gut is telling me I don’t like it one bit. I find it more concerning when I see one of the RB’s tweets that says “noooooo”. I hope I’m wrong but I think losing this young man hurts a lot more than it helps. I’m not completely on board with Haskins and hope like heck he stays healthy. The team just went fairly deep at QB to very thin and it’s a long season.
Don't be skeered. You're a Gy-rene for Gods sake!
Not scared, strategically concerned for the roster. Having an Ohio kid get his marching orders and provide his services elsewhere turns into a tactical concern. Keeping all these guys on the roster would have been ideal. Disappointing. Visually, Haskins seems to be the guy but something about Burrow was better to me. He will do well wherever he goes.
your not on board with the QB that actually took meaningful snaps, but your on board with the one that hasn't took a single meaningful snap? makes complete sense.
I think he's saying he'd rather have both on the roster, as we all would.
One Pass and great catch by a receiver against Meatchicken doesn’t count as meaningful snaps. I’ll take efficiency, which Burrow has any day of the week. As fans we were so accustomed to Barrett’s poor accuracy that seeing Haskins few throws on a rope, many are quick to drink the Kool-Aid. Letting an Ohio kid go hasn’t worked out so well historically for the good guys either. I’d prefer all these guys available and ready to go. We agree to disagree.
Go watch the Michigan game again. Haskins made more plays than just one pass. He delivered some damn good balls to guys in stride for big gains.
The Buckeyes were losing when he entered, and the game was in the balance until Weber put it away with under 2:00 remaining. I wouldn't discount that performance, it was impressive.
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I'd be intrigued by Wyoming.
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Accidental dv in phone. Sorry
I offset with a +1.
Why down vote this guy? If you knew anything at all about Wyoming football, you would know that Wyoming developed one of the best quarterbacks in the nation last year in Josh Allen. That might be a thing that Joe might be interested in
He will go to a school that fits his style and not sure he is a zone read JT type qb. I wouldn't stay in the B10 if I was him and Nebraska has no one to throw too. He will pick a school that he is for sure the starter and Florida would be a nice fit.
Not sure if this was mentioned but are we at 85 now?
86 last I saw
Question: When this type of situation happens and he has two years of eligibility left, is the game plan ever to pick the school based upon getting another scholarship (to perhaps get another degree), or is the two years of eligibility typically where they with only play football?
"Thousands of tired, nerve-shaken, over-civilized people are beginning to find out that going to the mountains is going home; that wilderness is a necessity..." -John Muir
I'm sure that he will pursue a master's degree at his new school, and that could certainly be a consideration depending on what he wants to get his master's degree in, but he's leaving Ohio State to have a chance to be a starting quarterback, not for academic reasons. So I would certainly think that finding the best fit from a football perspective will be the most important factor in his transfer decision. But he will receive a scholarship from whatever school he transfers to, and academics certainly could be a secondary factor in his decision. (In spirit, the graduate transfer option actually is intended for student-athletes to be able to complete their eligibility while pursuing educational opportunities that might not have been available to them at their previous schools. But that's no longer the primary factor in most of the graduate transfers happening in football and basketball now.)
Thanks for taking time to respond!
I believe that he still has to fulfill the requirements for being a full time student. Whatever that may be for a grad student.
This is a significant loss for Ohio State Football. This young man saw the field, and distributed the ball to the open-receiver, better than either of his two competitors. That being said, we should all wish him well, no matter for what university he eventually plays.
I don't see how Neb would pass on Joe. To me this is a perfect fit for both sides. Joe gets his starting spot for 2 years and martinez gets to learn under a pretty darn good QB. After that i'd say Wyoming, BC or OU would be the next logical choices.
Maybe if he goes to LSU, he can give us some pointers on the Bama defense when we see them in the playoffs next year.
Either way, i wish Joe nothing but the best and look forward to following his career wherever it takes him. this is going to be a big loss.
I don't think they'd pass on him either, but it's not a draft.
The only reasons I could see Nebby not taking him is I) Frost does not want to disrupt his QB room especially after Martinez looked so good in the spring game, and II) there's some kind of bad blood between Frost and Burrrow's dad from their Nebby days that we don't know about.
I say LSU. Coach O is in his second or third year, is desperate for some offense, and doesn't have any good QBs. That's the kind of coach who would make a "you're the starter" guarantee.
Agreed. I'd just hate to see his talent wasted at LSU.
I think Florida Atlantic, playing for Kiffin, would be perfect.
Curious no one has mentioned USF. Ties with Charlie Strong.
Just lost Quentin Flowers so zero QB competition.Really good team coming back.
I think he looks at who he will compete against for the starting role, followed closely by who he will be throwing to, then look at the offense. I'd want a guaranteed starting role with excellent receivers.
He should come row the boat for Fleck and the Gophers. That’d be a vast upgrade for them, and I could go watch him play. It’s a win win, I’m sure he’ll consider my thoughts.
I’ll bet anyone anything it won’t be Nebraska.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
Why do you think that?
Because in the B1G they have a rule for even grad transfers that the transferring school has to agree to a transfer to another B1G school, and that they have to wait a year. Not sure they can waive the year wait either. But if I’m Urban there is no damn way I let Burrow face me two years in a row with what he knows about OSU’s program as an insider. Nebraska is a no go.
I don't think it will be Nebraska but could they stop him if he decided to walk on?
I’ve never been keen with coaches preventing a kid, going to where they want to go, especially one who has already graduated from the school. If he’s not good enough to start at OSU there should be zero control of where he can play at. I liken it to a controlling boy dumping a girl and then telling her who she can date. It’s ridiculous. If he wants to go and play for the Huskers or any program on the schedule let him. You shouldn’t fear what you set free.
Not ridiculous at all. Burrow is choosing to be under NCAA rules by remaining in college, instead of moving on with his degree or pursuing pro football opportunities. The option by which Urban can exercise some influence in where Burrow can't enroll isn't by authority of OSU - but by the association Burrow is choosing to remain a part of. Having graduated OSU doesn't change that authority, or OSU's right to exercise it - if Burrow is choosing to remain in a sport governed by NCAA rules.
It’s yet another “rule” the NCAA is wrong on. No surprise.
I thought Texas A&M would be on the list.
Good luck Joe, wherever you land.
Coaches generally won't say they are looking for grad transfers because:
1. Reduce chance of appearance of tampering
2. Hurts current players if the transfer you are looking for doesn't transfer or doesn't go where you are.
So I would take all the coaches comments with a grain of salt.
Honestly I would hope maybe USC would take a look at him. I feel like Joe can develop here in SoCal
And here we go.
LSU and Cincinnati have been granted permission to contact Ohio State quarterback Joe Burrow, who announced his plans to transfer earlier today. https://t.co/6brjXmynNc pic.twitter.com/dze9vu135Y
— Andy Staples (@Andy_Staples) May 8, 2018
He should probably go smaller if he want to start for sure. It’s not like he is some established star. He would be far from the sure thing starter at most of those bigger schools mentioned.
With his skillset and years of experience at a program like Ohio state under Meyer, he'd pretty much be guaranteed a spot at LSU, UF or Nebraska considering their other options at QB.
Maybe he should go to Ohio University and play where his dad is. He could be the best QB in the MAC.
That would get him to the NFL.
I think this comes down to LSU, Cincinnati and Nebraska for Burrow. Doesn't sound like Dan Mullen wants to take a grad transfer QB.
If I were Joe Burrow I would pick Nebraska. He'll have stiff competition for the job with the true freshman Martinez tho.
Wyoming. I'd go see him play.
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Why not USC. they have no one behind Darnold.
LSU could be a good fit. Etling looked like a bust at Purdue. Did very well at QB at LSU. Improved a lot at LSU. Got a late round pick to the Pats.
Burrow has to go where the interest is strongest.
Nice write up, Dan.
Zone6, with rotating WR's, will have 1000+ yards at all 3 WR positions this season
Come to Arkansas Joe!
WB pass it back!
love me some JB. Consummate professional, class act. It sucks this is the scenario but it is bound to happen from time to time. I bet Joe has huge success wherever he goes. Personally, I would love to see him at BC and help beat the sheeeeeet out of Clemson, Fla St., the U and when and if ND hits their schedule when Joe is playing. Do damage Joe, do damage!
"Tough times don't last, tough people do" - Gregory Peck
If Florida passes on him...that is Mullen's first big mistake. Their QB situation is just awful.
Burrow isn't going somewhere just to get back into a QB comp. He could of stayed here and done that. He wants to be the starter above all else.
I will throw another potential destination in the mix if he wants to be certain he will start and that is Marshall
There current #1 is another Grad xfer from FCS level Wagner named Alex Thompson, he is supposed to be real good and also has 2 years left, but he is coming off an AC joint injury in his throwing arm and missed all of last year.
One more option could be Pitt, they have only 1 QB with playing experience (a SO named Kenny Pickett) who played in 4 games starting 1 and went 39 of 66 for 509 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT, so he could potentially start for them as well.
I hope he doesn't get a shot to talk to Nebraska. A gun slinger and potential NFL QB in Frost's system with a chip on his shoulder.....that's a scary thought. Good Luck to Joe. I watched him in High School. Watched him in the Semer Fi Bowl, and I believe he is one of the most polished QBs that tOSU has seen. Hated to see him go. Hope our Bucks don't face him!
Surprised Oklahoma isn't on this list... Kyler Murray could be a last first to high second round pick in the MLB draft. Open spot on a prolific squad.
He's so fast he makes fast people look, not fast