Wake Forest Transfer Keyshawn Woods to Visit Ohio State This Weekend, Per Report

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KevinJ's picture

Hopefully Coach Holtmann can seal the deal this weekend. 

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shawn kemps kids's picture

Sounds like is a very good passer but was asked to be more of a 6th man-off the bench scoring spark this year just looking at his stat-line from 2016-17 and 2017-18. I like both.

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Cincybuckeye's picture

I have a good feeling about this one. Probably because he's not listed as visiting elsewhere. Go Holtmann go!

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keato's picture

I agree if Coach Holt wants him I bet he leaves his visit as a Buckeye!

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ARMYBUCK's picture

This would pay huge dividends for next year.  Almost 43% from behind the arc???  Yes, PLEASE

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

This young man looks tremendous. Wouldn't that fill a need or three ? Hopefully all goes well.

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OSU069's picture

It's important to consider that he played in the ACC as well for 3 years and put up those solid numbers. There wouldn't be much uncertainty with him and how he will produce in the big ten when compared to some of the other grad transfers from smaller schools. Hopefully all goes well with the visit. 

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CincyBuck's picture

So probably a stupid question, but do we know why he's transferring?  Sounds like he's been impressive throughout his career; and Wake Forest/the ACC are pretty legit.  Does he think going elsewhere will give him a better opportunity to boost his stat line before jumping to the pros? 

Regardless, it sounds like he'd be a great pickup.  Hook 'em, Holtmann.

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OSU069's picture

Well no disrespect to Wake Forest, but other than the 2016-2017 season they've been pretty terrible for a while. This past year they were really bad and I don't see it getting much better anytime soon. He probably just wants to play on a more competitive team for his last year. 

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KENTCLARK's picture

Probably looking for more playing time.  If you read the article, he started just 5 games last year.  

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DeacBuck's picture

He already transferred once, from Charlotte to Wake, and apparently has a father who is very meddling in his/the team's business. It's a shame, because I hear Keyshawn is a good kid. There was some issue very early in the year where Manning suspended him for a game as well, but details never emerged. 

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minnbuck's picture

Also a Wake grad ('01).  Holtmann got a lot out of Dakich and Coach Manning has shown the ability to coach big men but not guards, so anything's possible if he comes to OSU, but Woods never struck me as anything special.  That said, most special players aren't transferring, so maybe this isn't a bad option.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Buckeye_bob's picture

Big Question what kind of defender is he? If you're going to play for Coach Holt you have to be able to move the puppies! He looks like a Holtman player, thick and athletic! Also 11-20 is not legit! He prob wants to have a chance to play in the tournament just once and get some publicity.!

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shawn kemps kids's picture

I haven't seen him play this is based purely on stats. His Defensive Box Plus/Minus:

Charlotte (F) -1.9
Wake Forest (S) 0.0
Wake Forest (J) -0.7

So a negative defender for his career. I wouldn't worry about it too much though. There are plenty of defensive aces to cover for him on the roster next year in Muhammad, A Wesson and Jallow off the top of my head.

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DeacBuck's picture

He's not a very good defender at the P5 level. He's really not a particularly gifted athlete (and definitely has below average foot speed for a SG), but is a very good shooter, and is able to sometimes create his own shot based on bulling his way to the hoop or shooting a fade-away. 

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andretolstoy's picture

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2018/04/ohio_state_basketball_grad_tra_1.html

Ohio State coach Chris Holtmann said earlier this week that the Buckeyes are interested in adding at least one, and possibly two, graduate transfers to the roster for next season. OSU has one scholarship available for next year, and would have another if it takes former walk-on Joey Lane off scholarship.

What does this mean? Why would they take Lane off scholarship? 

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KevinJ's picture

Holtmann said in his press conference earlier this week he had conversations with Lane when he took the job and Lane knows that if Holtmann needs the scholarship to improve the roster, he's going to use it. 

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raiderred's picture

Lanes a walk on. Never was promised a scholly when he came here so understandable to remove his.

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wigmon's picture

This.  He came to OSU planning on paying his own way and hoping to walk on the basketball team.  We've been short on scholarship players the last 2 years, so he was able to take one of the leftovers.  I'm sure he is quite aware of the situation for next season.

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shawn kemps kids's picture

Why would they take Lane off scholarship? 

So they can give it to a scholarship level player. Love Joey and he's a great kid, but he is a walk-on level guy at Ohio State.

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andretolstoy's picture

Is someone going to help him with his FAFSA? 

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shawn kemps kids's picture

I'm sure a school like Ohio State has these things thought out well ahead of time. 

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andretolstoy's picture

I didn't mean the FAFSA comment as a dig. So what does a kid do after giving up his scholarship? What do you mean when you say Ohio State has these things thought out well ahead of time? 

I always thought you walk on to win a spot, which means you eventually earn a scholarship. I wouldn't be keen on giving that up if I had earned it. I didn't know you could walk on, earn a spot, but tell them I'll pay my way anyhow ... 

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KevinJ's picture

He does the same thing he did before the scholarship was given to him, pays for school. 

You earn a scholarship by earning playing time.

Lane received (was gifted) a scholarship from Matta because he didn't fill all 13 spots, so Matta gave him the open scholarship because it wasn't being used. Matta let him know up front it could be just for that year if Matta needed it he was going to use it, when Holtmann came in he did the same.

Under normal circumstances Lane would have never received the scholarship. If he had improved enough to earn minutes, even 5 to 10 in spot duty, filling in when needed I could see letting him keeping the scholarship but he has not. He gets to practice with the team, play in garbage time during blowouts and cheerlead at the end of the bench with the other walk-ons and that's it.

If Holtmann can add a player that is going to play significant minutes, makes the team more competitive with the possibility of making the tournament he needs to do that, he owes it to all the other scholarship players who have committed to the program and the fans that support the program.

Earning a scholarship as a walk-on is earning playing time, Lane hasn't done that, glad he had the opportunity to get 2 years of his education paid for and I'm sure he is too. 

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andretolstoy's picture

You don't have to sell me on the "if we can build the team then offer the scholarship to someone else that's better" idea. I get it. 

I just had no idea Matta also placed this stipulation when giving him the scholarship. Thanks for the info. 

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bsk33's picture

I think he is super grateful that he got two seasons on scholarship. I am sure he would love a 3rd season (and I am hoping he does), but getting 2 out of 4 seasons on scholarship would be pretty awesome.

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DP71's picture

Coach Holtmann and his staff are considering every option to make this team exceptional next season. Once again, I thank them.  Woods sounds like exactly what we need.  Very good stats, can shoot the three, and is 6'3".  Hopefully, he signs on this weekend. 

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buckeyeinWI's picture

Make it happen coach!  Make it happen...

GO BUCKEYES!

16-2 is SWEET!

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clevelandfan1's picture

Looks like a good player and very good shooter... we can always use more of these, but doesn't look like he would help out much at point guard.

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TheDizzle's picture

I like this more than the 20 point small division PGs. This guy played in the ACC so atleast you know he's battle tested

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DP71's picture

What happened with the PG from Albany?

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James Grega's picture

Cut Ohio State from his list. 

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Blackcoffee's picture

He just wants to play in the tournament.Its all too clear. Penn State has recruited the Philly area well over the last few years. They are really becoming a legitimate basketball program within the B1G, but they are not elite, so perhaps in their case its a proximity to home; in any case, my thought is Holtmann and staff know what they are looking for and will find it out there.

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jackrulz88's picture

I want a point guard with 7+ assists per game and 90% free throw avg who can handle the ball and penetrate off his own dribble. Offense from layup & 1 or pull up jumper in the lane. Leave the 3 pt to kick out snipers.

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bsk33's picture

I apologize if you are using sarcasm and I did not pick up on it.

That being said, the player you described literally doesn't exist. 6 Division 1 players averaged 7 assists or more. None of them shot 90% from the line.

The closest player to what you are describing was Trae Young (8.7 assists, 86% FT shooter). He led the nation in assists, but also turnovers (5.2). He also is going to the NBA.

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buckslan's picture

Guards that average 7 assists a game don't necessarily grow on trees. And at OSU everyone except the center is expected to hit 3s. CJ Jackson hit a lot of 3s last season, we need that kind of production from point guards.

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exnwohiobuckfan's picture

And a point guard who can’t hit from 3 has a harder time driving because defenders back off of him. 

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Blackcoffee's picture

Mon, no one got your sarcasm.

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buckslan's picture

Sign me up! He has great size for a PG and 43% from 3 is just excellent. I have no doubt that Holtmann would get the absolute most out of him like he did with several other players on the team this past year.

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DeacBuck's picture

He's not a PG. Could probably play in a pinch, but is definitely not a primary ball handler. More of a offensive spark plug off the bench scorer.

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buckslan's picture

Tate wasn't a PG either but he was capable. Holtmann is going to look for ball handlers and this guy fits the bill. Trust the Holtmann magic.

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analyticalguy's picture

His stats don't show that he's a great distributor as a PG.  I'm reading above that he may not be a great defender.  And he has a Dad who meddles. So despite being great from behind the arc, is he really who we need? I'm all for a guy who can shoot it, but with CJ and Woods, it's as if we'd have two SGs who would switch off playing out of position at the point, or bringing in a 3* freshman (Washington). I know Holtman will need to go.with the best he can get for filling the holes.  I'm just thinking that might be the kid from UAB (if he can get him), or BOTH him and Woods.

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bsk33's picture

I am all about Nick Norton (UAB). Coach's kid, seemingly great basketball IQ (3 assists to 1 turnover for career), good ball handler, and most importantly: a true PG.

Woods obviously has him beat in the size and scoring categories, but just doesn't seem as good of a fit.

Not sure how I feel about landing both. I want to see both Muhammad and Washington play a decent amount.

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analyticalguy's picture

Holtman obviously has to pursue multiple options, since there's no guarantee on any of them, Norton included.  

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Blackcoffee's picture

Holtmann and staff know what they are doing. I could give a f*ck bout all the stats and back stories. Dakich wasn't lambasted before the season started so much because no one gave the team even a 1% chance of making the tourney, so most said "meh, whatever. we'll be lucky to make the NIT". Now that he worked miracles in his first year, every possible player is being analysed with a microscope. I say, from 8000 miles away, in Hotmann I trust.

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B1G Saturdays in the Fall's picture

Would be happy to land both, especially Norton. 

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PRO8's picture

Glad to see coach is trying to shore up the weak spots for next year and guard play is obviously one of those.

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buckzilla1's picture

Not big on this guy. His alphabet has no D in it. 

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Bucknicks's picture

I see us adding both Woods and Norton. That will give us alot of players at guard for next year. Let's be honest guards are the number one need. That was obvious just watch those pen state games.

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OldColumbusTown's picture

Holtmann wants to play a 3-guard lineup.  He's already said he looks at Musa Jallow as more of a wing.

If you can add Woods, along with possibly Norton as well, that gives you three senior guards with experience (CJ, Woods, Norton) and two freshmen guards who can feel their way into the college game as needed, but still get plenty of time.  Is Muhammed ready to contribute offensively?  Can Washington produce right away?  The pressure would be off them, so-to-speak, to be relied on so much as freshmen.

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IronPastor's picture

Any update on Woods visit this weekend?  I like Woods, but I prefer him more as a SG than a true PG.  Nick Norton from UAB is more a true PG.

Who knows, I trust Holtmann to get exactly who he wants, not just what is available.

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