Sorry I missed the call to submit questions, but is it really just a matter of when not if for Harrison and Stover? And what are their chances with Briggs? It’s not a deep year in-state but it would be nice to seem them land 3-4 of the top 5.
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I don’t think there’s anything to worry about with Harrison, Stover or Potter. Could see Correll and/or Briggs end up at Notre Dame, though — and ONLY if Ohio State doesn’t push for them. Correll is likely to play the same position as Miller, and you don’t need two centers. And there isn’t a big need at defensive tackle.
Quick follow on to this. Is Matthew Jones still pegged as a Center? Or does (probably) landing Miller allow Jones to shift over to OG?
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Miller’s pledge wouldn’t have an impact on Jones or vice versa. They’ll just battle it out rather than having a offensive guard move over to center like we’ve seen.
Do you-or the staff-peg every single OL recruit who isn't a LT as a C? Seriously, this is the first I have heard about Correll getting recruited as a C-it seems that's a go to excuse/explanation for every playing time/development/recruitment scenario we see concerning the OL. We didn't see this drama when Tressel or Coop were recruiting.
Fair question. Even with the upcoming NFL Draft, there's lots of talk about prospects who can play either C or G. One would think the transition would be even easier the earlier it happens -- i.e., from high school to college. Plus, IIRC, our last two Cs started out at G prior to moving over.
It’s a conversation the staff has been having with Correll for several months. And comparing recruiting during the Cooper and Tressel years to the current landscape is like comparing apples to oranges.
Sorry to break it to you, but OL play and OL depth/versatility needs haven't changed that much since the Coop era. I do realize that interwebz faux-drama has increased exponentially. IMO, if the staff has been having that conversation w/ Correll for several months, it sounds like they are trying to ease him down slowly from his "non-committable offer". Billy Price and Pat Elfline didn't have any problem kicking ass at G for a few years before switching to C.
Stx, I respect any opinion, but why do you seem angry and condescending in your posts? I think the OSU staff has a better handle on these players than you do, and even if there is a bit of game playing for recruiting purposes, is that such a bad thing? I also don't get where all this drama is that you're referencing?
tOSU staff can do whatever they want-I just find it silly for an "independent" Buckeye site to essentially be water carriers for the tOSU PR department. I like to look at the entire picture, if the majority of posters on here want to play happy happy show n' tell, good for them, I like calling out BS where I see it, otherwise we are just regurgitating what we already know-and that gets real boring, real quick.
Oops, did all this research looking for the wrong player. I'm not sure if either of the Andrew's have mentioned it but in the recruiting threads moneymike, spooner, 305 or someone had mentioned Correll and Miller were kind of competing for the same spot at the C position.
Thanks for the quick response Andrew.
Andrew do you think the haul from last year and the overall depth would be enough not to push for Briggs?
I know the one-on-ones at camp settings are not the end all be all, but he uses his leverage and pure strength so well!
Its like watching a young aaron donald (ok prolly not as quick). I keep reading that he does not like the recruiting scene or the attention.
That, his love for academics, and his relationships make ND the early pick. What would it take for OSU to go all in on him?
IMO the staff wants the Florida DT or the Hawaii DT more than Briggs.
Yes, I don't think its that they won't be taking a DT but maybe they will only be taking one and Briggs isn't #1 on their list.
I don't think Meyer is dumb. I think he knew what he had or wanted with Cardale in the passing game (hence him starting against VT in 2015), and ultimately went with JT because despite his passing deficiencies, was still a phenomenal leader, winner, and moved the chains. I think Meyer is loyal to a fault, but at least he put a winner behind center in JT. But, and it's just my opinion and gut feeling, Urban wants more balance and a better aerial attack. I think he's intentionally recruiting better throwers - although he still needs a QB that can do SOMETHING with his legs.
I'm just excited, with no disrespect to JT AT ALL, to see a new offense and QB evolve. Our defense will keep us in any game against any opponent, but if our offense gets even more explosive and unpredictable, we move from a top-10 or -5 team to a top-3 team.
I assume by "top-3 team", you mean a top three offense. Because OSU is most likely going to be ranked in the top 3 when the preseason rankings come out.
Ranked? Maybe. Deserving/actual? - different story.
Agreed w/ Denver. We'll be ranked top-3/5 come preseason. And deservedly so. Look at all of the projected top-10 teams. I feel like you (and a lot of other folks) are being too critical. Just because we're not likely to beat every team by 150 points a la the Nebraska teams of yesteryears doesn't mean we're not at or near the top.
That said, I'm also interested to see what the O looks like next year if Haskins wins the job (which I expect to happen). There will almost certainly be some growing pains. But it could be explosive, especially with all of the WRs we have coming back.
I hear ya, and I'm not complaining or being too critical. I'm just saying our offense last year (and maybe 2015/2016) was very good, but perhaps not Playoff good (see Clemson game in the Playoffs). We struggled offensively against Wisky and USC this past year in comparison to our D. Our D was lights out - maybe playing the best in the country by season's end.
Again, I'm not saying offense was bad - we've set OSU/B1G records. I'm just saying a marginal improvement in the passing game takes us from a top-10 team to a legit team that could beat Bama/Georgia/Clemson. I don't think we would have beaten Bama or Georgia if we played them in the playoffs. But our D would have made it a game.
Just look at what we did in 2014. 45 points on BAMA! I know that team and offense was special, and that can't be replicated every year, but clearly we are capable of a bit more, and I'm just excited to see what a new QB and possibly tweaked offense will look like.
I am NOT a "the sky is falling" type of fan. But that doesn't mean I can't be hopeful for more.
EDIT: Upvotes all around for the discussion.
The D will be the strength of this year's team at the on-set, and keep us in games. The O will evolve into a strength as season goes on(IMHO)...
15-1 is SWEET!
Cardale was 10-0
MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS
All I have to say is
"Let's beat the shit out of Michigan. Have a good night." - UFM
Is there any chance they don't end up with a QB in this class?
I know they always talk about wanting a QB every single year and get Meyer's rationale...but given how down the QB recruiting class is this year and the fact they're already going to have 3 scholarship QBs with multiple years of eligibility on board (or 4, in the unlikely event that all of Haskins/Burrow/Martell stick around regardless of the outcome of the QB battle), it seems like if there was ever a year to be secretly OK with not taking any scholarship QB's and using that offer elsewhere, it would be this year.
Especially if they miss on their primary couple targets, I just wonder if they'd shrug it off and go "well, we're not reaching for a QB recruit just to fill a slot this year".
That’s a good question, but I don’t see that happening. You take a year off and then next year is absolutely can’t-miss. And you can’t bank on the fact that they’re all staying, even if there’s a hypothetical agreement. In the end, (another hypothetical) Haskins could win the job, Burrow transfers, Haskins leaves after one great year and that leaves Martell and Baldwin. You need more quarterbacks than that.
I think 2014 is indication enough that they want a QB in every class. Do you really think OSU staff was enamored with Collier's technical abilities? Probably not, but from all accounts they loved his leadership and the way he carried himself on and off the field.
They'll get the best QB they can every year - with "best" focusing on leadership - even if some years the "best" is someone who may never see the field much (although surprises do occur).
before he committed to Ohio State out of the blue in late April.
...before he committed to Ohio State out of the blue gray in late April.
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I have been a frequent follower of Eleven Warriors for quite some time now and dont know where I go to submit questions.
Can anyone help me out?
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Usually, I solicit questions in forums. You can submit any questions you have to me on Twitter at @AndrewMLind or by email at email@example.com, though.