Man Nicknamed “TV Teddy” Upset About Lost Chance at Being on TV

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rosycheeks's picture

Aside from being a clown, he's just not good enough. And that's saying a lot.

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BuckeyeChief's picture

Lololol. What a jerk.

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McGrind's picture

I didn’t think I would ever hear anything worse than schools bitching about not making a 68 team playoff....then this. What next everybody gets in and gets a trophy and a juice box? 

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Ohio1St81's picture

I think many sports, but particularly college basketball, really suffer because of a lack of accountability on officials. I understand the need for safeguards to prevent criticism but it seems like there is absolutely nothing in place meant to improve officiating and no recourse when officials don't do their jobs well enough. 

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@osu.fbu's picture

One of the reasons I stopped watching regular season college BB is because of officiating. The block/charge situation seems like a different rule to every ref who steps on the court. Too many good players are put in foul trouble (usually on a few bad calls) because of clowns like TV Teddy.  And refs determine the outcome of far too many games. 

Valentine has the nerve to whine about not making the tournament?  This guy, and I don't say this lightly, shouldn't have a job officiating basketball.  Guys like him make the sport less watchable. 

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buckeye2148's picture

OMG I thought I was the only one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you so much, to put it bluntly these refs are just plain ass horrible

david roe

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BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE's picture

Haha........FU TV Teddy!!!!!!

Clown

I used to play sports, then I realized you can buy trophies.

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Hovenaut's picture

*best Carly Simon voice*

"You're so vain...you probably think this Buckshot is about you..."

Well, in Ted's case, it is.

I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Carly was my mom's all-time fave :)

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Dad's fave, too.

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buckeyeEddie27's picture

I'm being punished unjustly for my abhorrent behavior over decades of basketball boo hoo.

I'll bet he sues the NCAA because he's that type of asshole

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

I Believe In Ohio State.

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BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE's picture

Funny part is: He is part of a union, as a union employee myself, i can tell you: Those old asholes do whatever they want and stick around protected for way too long! They know the game, and continue to push their "seniority" for as long as they can!

I used to play sports, then I realized you can buy trophies.

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jpfbucks01's picture

College basketball officials are NOT part of a union. They are independent contractors who sign contracts with each conference and get paid on a per game basis. They have a NCAA official they all must report to for ovesight (mostly to provide feedback and guidance on consistent enforcement and interpretation of rules and to some degree scheduling and choosing who will work tourneys), but they actually work for the conferences.

From an article describing their working relationship:

basketball officials are independent contractors and are paid on a per-game basis. So you could work one week, you could work eight weeks. You have an individual contract with each conference that you work for, and it’s a one-year contract. I think that would surprise some people. So every year it’s got to be renewed.

Can you work for multiple conferences at the same time?

Yes, most guys do. You sort of prioritize the conferences, so when the late summer or fall rolls around, your number one conference -- or your top priority -- you accept games from them. Then you close out those dates with the other conferences, and then they fill in other open dates that you have, and it sort of filters down your priority list, as far as conferences go. I work for the Big Ten, the Atlantic 10, the Mid-American Conference, the Horizon League, the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference, and America East.

What is a day in your working life like?

Most of the time, it’s getting up around 4:30 or 5 a.m. to take the shuttle over to the airport, because you’re always trying to be on the first flight out. That way, if there’s a problem, there’s a plan B. Then it's getting into my destination city mid-morning and, for me, having a second job, I try and get some work done. Then later in the afternoon, if I get a chance to lay down for an hour or so, I’ll do that. Then I get up and get cleaned up and pack my bag, get ready to head over to the arena. It’s pretty much like Groundhog Day: It starts all over the next day.

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Officials for large conference often get their travel paid for and meals, but in smaller conferences often don't.

They make typically between $1000-$2000 a game and many will officiate between 50-100 games a year, so annualized it is about 50K-200K gross earnings before expenses, depending on how much they want to work and travel (ie be away from home) and how in demand they are from the leagues. Some smaller conferences and less in demand refs may make as little as $700-800 for a game and have pay for their own travel to do it, meaning they may only net a couple hundred dollars to do it.

Many are former players and coaches earlier in their careers maybe at the high school or small college level. TV Teddy actually was a small college baseball player from West Virginia who simply loved the game and started reffing HS games.

For the NCAA tourney these guys can make $1000 a game for 3 games on the opening weekend with limited travel so it can be a fairly profitable weekend. If they go to the regional finals its $1400 a game and the final 4 is $2000 a game.

It is a fairly thankless job that suffers from lack of organization at the NCAA level by not hiring FT year round officials and hence you get locked into a Ted Valentine, because many people don't want to take the earful's of grief from coaches and fans making maybe $500 a game net after expenses officiating a New Hampshire vs Vermont game in the middle of winter on the hope that one day they get to do a OSU/MSU game a few years later

So when you get a dedicated guy, almost no matter how "bad" they are, you keep them around, because their is not a big pool to choose from to replace them.

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buckeye2148's picture

most are former players wannabes that just weren't very good that do hold grudges and it shows in their poor reefing skills. clearly horrible at best and is only getting worse may not be called a union but believe me dude these fucks belong to their own ego union. been there know how they think and how it works

david roe

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jpfbucks01's picture

I would just say that an "ego union" is no where near the same thing as a real union which could potentially keep bad refs around due to union rules.

But as I noted a bad ref is primarily kept around as there simply not many good ones to go around to replace them.

Granted their ego's are big issue no debate there and the lack of consistency may have as much to do with the leagues handling this via contractors and not using FT professional employees.

But if you fire a Ted Valentine or don't renew his contract, then you have to find some guy likely currently doing MAC/Horizon games at best to take his spot. And if you think TV Ted is bad (and he certainly is at times), then the MAC guys are likely worse hence why they are at that level.

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Knarcisi's picture

Well, if he didn’t suck so bad. 

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Seattle Linga's picture

You always have a way my man - nice !!

Hope you are enjoying the sights and sounds of the land far ........... far away.

Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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BuckeyeVet's picture

"I saw that coming".

- Karma

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CowCat's picture

Would he like some toasted bread with his whine?

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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smibr37's picture

He'll just have to hope that the CBI or CIT tournaments invite him.

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MichiBuck12's picture

TV Teddy is the worst. I'm glad he's getting snubbed. And now he's whining about it in the media. Anything to get some camera time.

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WC Buckeye's picture

Ed Hightower was worse, and I am grateful that he's retired and will NEVER do another OSU game. TV Teddy should do the same.

The only thing that's new in the world is the history that we have forgotten.

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shawn kemps kids's picture

Good. Most refs get a lot of unfair hate but every bit of hate for Ted Valentine is well deserved. Guy sucks and tries to make it about him as opposed to making the right calls.

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McBane's picture

LOLOLOL!  Enjoy the tournament from your recliner, TV Teddy!

#POPPYSTRONG

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Skunk bear blood's picture

Ted Valentine.... The next ESPN personality commentator.

#POPPYSTRONG

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Seattle Linga's picture

Humbling for sure !!

Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

LMAO good, he sucks anyway, fuck him.

Class of 2010.

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

I cannot say I am disappointed.  He is not a good official and he makes the game about him.  The bad thing is there are a growing number of officials doing likewise and it is not good for basketball. Although watching him officiate a couple of deplorable teams and coaches could make for good entertainment.  

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

This is not right, it's just not fair

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langweilig's picture

stop calling 50+ fouls a game and maybe youll get to ref ya ninny

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Browns88's picture

Fuck him.   Damn showboat.  Do your damn job instead.

Browns88

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buckeye2148's picture

have to say he is very bad but hes not the worst. the bigten refs are so bad when the season is over you have no fucking idea how good anyone is.  needs to get back to the coaches having a say in hiring the refs.

david roe

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Sanantonefan's picture

The thing is, the best officials are not the center of attention. The best officials are the ones that you don't notice because they're doing their job well. I don't want flash with an official--I want consistency and competence.

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TheShookster's picture

I married into UNC fandom and I am a big fan of Joel Berry.

He's done some great things on the court, but now he's done a great service to college basketball fans everywhere. Think about that next time you wanna make a fake classes joke!! (Okay I do realize fake classes are bad, but Teddy is worse)

He ain't even stretch doe!!

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Rocket Man's picture

I don't like any official who chooses to act like he is more important than the guys on the court/field/playing surface.

So I don't like TV Ted

"Luck is my middle name. Mind you, my first name is Bad."

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original buckeye's picture

1.  The guy is a horrible official--if you watch the games, he's one of the worst out there.  

2.  On top of being terrible at his job, his on-court antics make it clear that he's trying to bring the spotlight to himself and make himself a household name...which is exactly what an official should not be doing.

3.  On top of being terrible at his job and a publicity hound, he's a whiner who completely lacks any sense of self-awareness.  The article above clearly shows this.

College basketball would be a lot better off if this guy retired (as he supposedly considered when whining about the Joel Berry affair that he (TV Ted) created).  Of course, that was just typical TV Ted-orchestrated drama--he had no intention of ever doing so.  

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buckeyearchie76's picture

I think he always felt that the people came to watch him instead of the game.  Is he a showman or a showboat?  You decide. Before it was so "fashionable" to go so often to the monitors to review plays, he just had to do it anyway at least once every game to get his mug--or more correctly--his fat ass on the camera.  The turning of the back incident did not help his image either.  I will give him one prop.  The last time OSU played in Columbus, Coach K was really on his case.  He actually stopped play and went over and told Coach K enough was enough. He did not call a technical on him.  But, it was obvious from the stands that it was not a real pleasant discussion.  But, again, thinking back, he had just put himself with Coach K on center stage and again drew the attention he wanted in front of a national television audience.  The NCAA tournament is probably better off with him not on the court.  GO BUCKS!

Louis Haynes

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gobucks96's picture

Glad he's not allowed. He wants attention whenever he's on the court. Honestly, I think he calls what he thinks he'll see before it happens..

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