Tua exposed Hurts. That battle is already over. The Buckeyes, on the other hand, have three worthy candidates. It will come down to leadership and the protecting the ball. I still contend that if Joe B doesn’t win outright in Spring ball, he will graduate transfer and make an immediate impact at a power 5 school not named Michigan. That leaves Dwayne and Tate and unless Tate is just too good at ball handling and throwing to not start, Dwayne is the man this year. But it’s still a wide open competition cuz Urban loves security above all things and that can only play out on the field. We may not know until 4 games into the season which would be ok with me.
Saban will absolutely be more decisive than Meyer, he proved that at halftime of the national championship game. I don't think there's much of an issue in Tuscaloosa - just ask Blake Barnett.
Oklahoma, Texas, and TCU seem to make the Big XII a hotbed of quarterback battles.
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Saban will absolutely be more decisive than Meyer,
Looks that way right now. But if Coach Meyer actually gives Wilson/Day control of the offense, then Meyer's fundamental commitment to the passing game looks much stronger than Saban's. The jury's still out.
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Our hunt for a quarterback ('s). Counting our walk on we have 5 already. We have great talent and depth. What remains to be seen is if the top guy can buy into that crazy concept of passing the football. I hope that he does because great things can happen with Wilson and Day calling most of the shots.
Here's how I see it playing out.. unfortunately.. Haskins wins the job, Burrow transfers, and Tate splits time with Haskins at QB..like 80/20 split with Haskins taking the majority of the snaps..
I feel ya. Hope Burrow stays.
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At Bama, my money is on Tuanigamanuolepola Tagovailoa (until his brother Taulia enrolls next Spring)
And here, no one should count Burrow out at this point. Two excellent QB's, but Burrow may have a slight edge.
I’m not counting Burrow out. From the “best interest of the program standpoint”, IF all things being equal between Haskins & Burrow, I could see Burrow being named the starter. Thereby OSU woukd still have both Haskins/Martell.
Because Baldwin is out injured, IF Haskins is named starter, AND Burrow leaves. Aside from walkons, there’s then just Haskins/Martell. Awful thin QB stable in this scenario.
Don’t rule it out, everybody also just knew felt and thought that Haskins would be the B1G Title game QB; we saw what happened there.
Look..if I'm in kindergarten, and I'm trying to learn to write my own name, I'm raising hell with Mom and Dad when I get home from school..
I’m convinced Joe Burrow is the next Tom Brady. I’m also convinced Urban & Co. seem destined to never realize it.
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Sooooo... You're convinced that burrow is destined to have a mediocre college career and end up being drafted in the 6/7 round before going on to be the GOAT of the NFL? And that helps OSU how? If I were a Michigan fan, I'd trade the "but Tom Brady played here" for a National championship with a QB who went on to have a mediocre pro career. Brady never helped them that team up north do shit.
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Tom Brady doesn't run with the football. He just wins championships. Hoping we realize all that we can be while passing and RB running game thrives.
This isn’t the first time, or even 10th time, I have heard Burrow compared to a pocket passer when he is actually the dual-threat QB while Haskins is the more conventional, pro-style guy. Odd that it seems to keep happening.
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Dwayne Haskins is the one true king. The one who was promised. The one who will lead us to the promised land of another national title.
Like sand through the hour glass, these are the Dwaynes of our lives....
this comment and the one above it are beautiful and perfect in every way, because youre both right
this comment and the one above it are beautiful and perfect in every way, because youre both right
100% correct (except for the fact that Burrow may have a slight edge on on the brilliant Dwayne Haskins, and Burrow may well be the starter in 2018)
Regardless, whether Saban is college football's Night King or Tyrion Lannister, I'm hoping his ass goes down this season at the hands of the King of the North!
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He must take his place in the Circle of Life.
Whoever gets the job I hope people give them a chance. When we have people melodramatically claiming they will move to a different country if x an doesn't start the season, I don't have a whole lot of hope anyone will everyone good enough for what I call the OSU browns cartel.
Have you ever seen a fierce animal who you were sure wouldn't bite? Because I haven't.
I'm an OSU/Bengals fan and I also agonize over QB play.
They will be yelling for the backup after the first interception thrown.
That’s been a thing for a long time. I remember in my first year at OSU in 1991, Herbstreit was a beloved back-up even though he was not great as a starter. There were people who liked Bret Powers in relief of Hoying in 1993, though Hoying really established himself eventually. And of course Jackson and Germaine - often whoever wasn’t in between the two of them was the one people wanted most to see on the field.
Wait. Are... are you implying that the Browns HAVE had a QB who was good enough in the last 20 years?
Hoo, man. That's not helping your case.
No I'm implying whoever is the Browns backup is always the second coming of Otto Graham.
If I give the winner until he throws his first interception is that enough time before throwing him under the bus?
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
I'm starting to think that if there were no quarterback controversy at Ohio State, one would be invented.
Really hope Joe B. stays but if he leaves he goes far away (Stanford?)...plays a year and then goes on to have a nice nfl career. Would not be surprised to see him have a better nfl career than college...Russel Wilson-esk?
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Many think Nebraska will be his new home because he nearly went there from the get. He will need to find a home that run's his style of offense if he leaves.
Could be. His dad was a Nebraska guy. Was on staff with Solich and then came over with him to Ohio U. I don’t know what Frost has in mind out here, but Burrow would certainly be a big transfer pick up for the Huskers if he did come out here.
I just looked up the NCAA rule on grad transfers and it said all conferences have a rule that in-conference transferees must sit out a year. So if Joe B wanted to go somewhere, it would likely be outside of the B1G, unless he wants to sit out another year.
I look at our Qb situation like this. Martel pretty much like Barrett. Burrows and Baldwin pretty much like Krenzel. Haskins pretty much like Brady when it comes to running the ball. Then as a fan we haven't seen much of any of them for a true fix?
Saban: pulled the trigger, bold move! One that won him another National Championship.
You made a good point regarding Haskins “if only because I think that he'd force the coaching staff to make some long overdue changes to their offensive philosophy”. I agree but I am not sure. I don’t think Urban can pull the trigger. He is so dependent on the RO…
I would welcome the change. If only to get beyond the suspicion that we can get along without Tom H.
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Burrow is mobile and could run the offense much in the way J.T. Barrett did,
I think this is undervaluing Burrow's ability. He passes accurately and in time with the receivers.
And he can spin the deep ball. Running comparisons between Dwayne and Brady are laughable Dwayne is a much more effective runner than Brady.
I feel if not for a freak thumb injury, Burrow would have been backup last year. Urban praised his toughness getting back from injury early and we know Urban loves toughness so Haskins is not a done deal.
I love all 3!!
Hard to go too wrong when you have 3 guys who would probably all get the job done to some degree if given the opportunity. The hope is that whoever Urban picks ultimately gets the job done, so we don't all find ourselves playing the what if game at the end of the day.
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After the game in AA, the starting job is Haskins’ to lose. I know he isn’t as mobile, but with Dobbins and Weber in the backfield, and the receivers we have returning and improving, we don’t need our QB to make a lot of plays with his legs. Urban is famous for saying that he doesn’t like to see his QB get a lot of carries, only to see him end up with a lot of carries in part because of designed runs and in part because JT was so meticulous that he was to the point of indecisive, missing windows of opportunity and leaving him forced to improvise. But I do think Urban does want to limit the QB runs this year. Previously, I think Meyer has felt conflicted because his other strong desire is to have the ball in the hands of the guy he trusts the most. I think in 2018, Dobbins and Weber have done enough to show that in critical moments they can have the ball in their hands, instead of the QB. Here is hoping this is the year when the talent around our QB (talent that I think is best complemented by Haskins) allows Meyer to flip the script from the seasons he failed to lean on Hyde for the tough yards and instead put it in Braxton’s hands, or the script from that MSU debacle where Zeke didn’t get touches. I think we have backs who can do plenty of damage with or without the QB run threat to open things for them, and we have receivers that can mostly catch and make plays with a strong, accurate arm getting them the ball in stride. Haskins is not the best athlete, but he seems to be the best fit for the depth of talent we have that just needs someone to confidently get them the ball.
All quarterbacks make mistakes. That's understandable. However not being as predictable as we were the last two years may lead to us scoring at an unfamiliar pace. Haskins throwing an interception when we are ahead 28 - 0 tells me it's a learning experience. Now if he throws 4 in one game... unacceptable.