Sometimes you think you've got it bad in your life, and then this pops up...stay strong Beanie
I would've sent a check but I already sealed up the envelope...
Take care of yourself first and best of luck!
This makes me incredibly sad. Making NFL money simply isn't worth it if it destroys your ability to function as a normal human being
Plenty of ways out there to make NFL money without sacrificing your body, if you have the brain to find them.
Not sure if you got the memo but we're talking about brain injury, not humble bragging about how easy it is to make $$$ if you're "smart"
Not sure you understand how to read his comment....
"Captain, over here, I've found someth... AHHHH!!!!!!"
In 10 years football as we know it today will not exist.
"You're welcome for the house I built."
Not sure exactly what you mean by this, but football will still be around. The player safety stuff has been ramping up for years, so football "as we know it" is already much different than 5 years ago. It's not going away, though.
Could’ve happened in pee wee for all anyone knows.
Dont be silly, we have ample evidence that playing football *long term* causes traumatic brain injury
Running back has to be one of the worst positions as a career choice. Probably suffer the most head trauma of any position and also one of the shortest careers.
Yet Le'veon Bell is selfish for wanting to get paid...
O & D line have it pretty bad too. We hit heads pretty much every play we're on the field. Not huge hits, but repetitive smaller hits. They add up.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
I think I read somewhere that those are actually worse. The little ones add up, and you don't get taken out for them. One big hit and you're in the protocol. 30 little ones and nobody blinks an eye.
Oh yeah, for sure. Maybe that's even worse because lineman can sustain longer careers so they actually accrue more damage over time.
O & D line have it pretty bad too. We hit heads pretty much every play we're on the field. Not huge hits, but repetitive smaller hits. They add up.
Small hits add up. It astonishes me that players still slap each others' helmets to congratulate or encourage. Coaches slap them too.
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Sad to hear this, for sure. Keep your head up BW.
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We always say things like this, so I hope its not cliché when I say, I really hope for the best for Beanie. Awesome Buckeye, and a great guy. I wish and pray for him nothing but good health. Buckeye Nation is behind you Beanie!
Be Healthy Beanie!
ONE Not Done!
I met Beanie back at a HS football banquet and have always cheered for him (easy since he was a Buckeye). I hope he is able to continue to be healthy and minimize any damage from his playing days! I recently treated a guy who played football with OJ at USC and the effects of playing for years definitely take a massive toll on the body.
"Football is, after all, a wonderful way to get rid of your aggressions without going to jail for it." Woody Hayes
Wow - OJ was at USC 50 years ago!
Definitely this is one of those things that you know is bad, and scary, when you read about it happening to people you don't know. Then, when it hits closer to home like this, it's a hell of a lot more real.
Beanie, we are praying for the best for you!
He's no spring chicken, but his body/cognitive functioning is definitely not what one would expect. It definitely gives you pause and be thankful for your health.
Such a scary scenario and one I worry about for myself. I hope Beanie gets the best medical treatment available provided to him.
This is very sad. Hope that Beanie can get the help he needs and that we can make it safer for all of the people who play.
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My son is in 8th grade...has played tackle football since 6 years old. He is also a straight A student. Because of things like this we have been discussing him not playing high school football. As a parent (and he knows it also) football is not the the vehicle that is going to drive his future...his academics will be his ticket.
Just utterly conflicted over this. He loves the game but he also feels like the risks are just not worth it anymore.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
I don't have kids yet but I am definitely not allowing them to play tackle football before high school. I am starting to waver on high school. It's difficult for me since football is my favorite sport and I enjoyed playing competitively through college.
It is a very tough call.
It's an easy call for me (my boys wont,play tackle football) but I understand the conflicted perspective others have.
Guys, I respect your right to make the decision you feel will protect your children.
That said, what about the millions and millions of men who have played football at the lower levels and have never had a neurological problem related to their playing experience. I don't know a single person in my life experience of being heavily involved with the game who has neurological problems. I'm saying that as someone who is very involved with the game of football, and amateur athletics in general, for many years.
The only amateur athlete that I know of who suffered permanent head trauma was a jr. high girls basketball player who fell and hit her head on the floor during a game. It was a dangerous situation when it happened, and she never fully recovered.
You have to put things like this in perspective, though. The repercussions of playing at every level are likely far different than just playing through high school. With that being said, this is a personal choice that each family needs to make, so you do what you feel is best!
You sound like a great parent. I stopped my hs participation on my own bc of serial head trauma and chronic headaches. I loved the game (center and linebacker) but I knew something wasn't right and I was playing scared--which absolutely puts one at greater risk. I stopped on my own, but my dad supported my decision, as did my neurosurgeon, who attributed my head injury to clumsiness, or lack of athletic ability.... We've come a long way. I'm glad Beanie is being proactive about diagnosis. I'm positive the quality of his life will only get so much better bc of it.
Chop it down with the edge of my hand
I did the same thing. I took a few big shots to the head in HS & the players they would have been playing against were bigger & faster than what I saw. There are other sports.
haha, i became pk--hey i did well!
I played football from 4th grade until my sophomore year in college (Div III). I loved it. Got my bell rung numerous times. I am forgetful but I don't know if there's a correlation--seems that's been the case for a long time. I frown upon my grandkids playing.
I love watching CFB and rooting for the Buckeyes ... but I’m becoming quite conflicted on this issue. A sport is not worth the lives of these men.
Incredibly sad news to hear but glad that he knew himself well enough to go get it checked and addressed. Prayers for Beanie to have the best possible outcome from his condition
"I don't apologize for anything. When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes
Wishing you the best, Beanie! I wonder what a young guy like this, with TBI symptoms at such a young age would say about the game, or his kids and the game. Is it worth it?
I love football. So does my son, but he knows he will never be permitted to play. I used to think that if an athlete is good enough to have a shot at professional paychecks, then the risk was worth it. However, I no longer feel that way.
Get better Beanie.
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As I read this thread I cannot but believe that we now have the acme of college and professional football, and from this point it will begin to diminish. As fewer play at lower levels, it will affect the upper levels of the game. The plastic helmet, intended to protect the players head has instead become the leading edge of the projectile, the body. If you had the old leather helmets, few if any would lead with their head. I don't know if there is an answer to the problem.
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This was very compelling. There were whispers around town, wondering what was up with Beanie (not being on the air of his show). Wish him and his fam nothing but the best.
Make preparations in advance. You never have trouble if you are prepared for it.
Maybe just luck but papa Grinder taught me to tackle the old leather helmet way...head in front, shoulder right to belly button And wrap up with the arms...no head shots and rare to miss a tackle. Coaches taught to lead with the head to the chest...assuming the runner was 100% upright...other wise head to head..oh those lead to cracked helmets and as we now know much worse outcomes.
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
Prayers for Beanie.
Haven't seen but wonder if there is solid data on instances of long-term brain trauma in rugby. Worth exploring.
All of this yet pee wee leagues continue to exist for kids to play tackle football as early as 1st grade. Tackle football for 1st graders is ridiculous without the possibility of head trauma. Providing it and letting kids do it is borderline endangerment, in my opinion. My kid will be playing flag football until some clarity is reached on what is really, definitively going on.
I played from 3rd grade through college. Had a few concussions. Some bad enough to lose peripheral vision. Still have headaches from time to time when I suddenly have the same symptoms and its 20 years later. Wish I knew if there was a connection.
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This is why college players should be able to get paid. That degree isn't worth as much if you've got brain damage at 29 that makes it difficult to find your words like Beanie does.
How about college soccer players, college rugby players, college basketball players, college equestrians. Colleges are going to pay athletes to remove their liability? Yeah, ok.
I haven't seen the evidence that playing those sports causes life altering brain trauma regularly and it's not to remove liability it's to allow them financial freedom if football hurts their cognitive ability to the point it effects how they earn a living.
Hockey and (women's) soccer generally have higher concussion rates than football. So it stands to reason that the risks of long term brain injury are probably higher in those sports too.
I had a major concussion my junior year in high school.
Knocked a guy out my senior year and did not fair much better.
Was a human missile/headhunter on special teams in college.
I was that guy who would sit down to take a 60 minute test and finish 15 minutes early.
I just took a test for a job where they had columns of different currencies with GPD and exports. You had to convert from one to another and compare. Normally I could have done this in my head. I struggled. Fortunately I am an avid reader and am always trying something new, that has not diminished.
You have to wonder, is this, football, the cause, will it get worse and when???
We will see major changes in football in my lifetime, I can see where there will be no tackle football until high school. I probably would not let my boys play football if I had any. Not only the head trauma but the pain I experience in my knees and shoulders is burden I wouldn't wish on anyone.
Best wished Beanie and all the other athletes who will cross this bridge.
There is a medical clinic in the SE Michigan area that frequently advertises on radio it's hyperbaric chamber treatment for brain injuries. There is a lot of positive research in this area and I hope it continues to prove to be a significant treatment of brain injuries.
Beaumont Hospital in metro Detroit uses a large chamber to treat individuals in need of wound healing.
Oxford Recovery Center is the clinic I was referring. Although the FDA flips out over claims by these types of centers, Oxford at least cites the studies that are being done. They use a multifaceted approach, not simply oxygen application. Anyone who is interested, here is the link to the brain trauma specific information.
Thanks for posting. His statement sounded like he would be doing treatment, and I wondered what type of treatment could be done for a brain injury like this.
The rugby-style tackling that OSU teaches should just be mandated at all levels of the sport. This would go beyond the current targeting rules.
But it won't have an effect unless all teams do it.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
That battering ram style of his that I loved so much when he played seems to have had a hand in this. As much as I loved him running folks over it's hard to think those first downs, touchdowns, and wins were worth it. Can we spend some of that football money on helmet research?
"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War
For those that are keeping their kids out of football, I totally respect that. Completely your right as a parent. For the kids that are forced to play football due to psychopath parents trying to live vicariously through the kids, I feel sorry for them...but for grown adult males that make a free will decision to play this sport, especially in a time where literally everyone is hyper aware of the risks involved, my sympathy level for the consequences of that decision to play are about the same as it is for smokers who develop lung cancer. It's tragic, and it's sad, but you sign a daily contract with yourself that you are responsible for all the consequences of that day's actions. Playing football isn't a court mandated sentence. You can stop any time you want. No one is trying to eliminate deep sea crab fishing and literally 1 out of every 3000 deckhands dies every single season. But for some reason football is the number one morality, political, child developmental, social behavior lightning rod in America and I'm fed up with this shit. It's a game. You don't want to get hurt? Don't play. I haven't had a good down vote beat down in a while, so bring your worst. I won't be in the forums bellyaching about the consequences of me posting this by my own free will if you catch my drift.
Why would anyone downvote you? Well other than the fact you basically asked for downvotes LOL, nothing you said violated policy or is offensive.
You're not wrong about the young adults playing today but 6 years ago when Beanie last played the level of information available was much different as were safety protocols
It's not a court mandated sentence but when Beanie was playing football in college no one knew that football was so seriously damaging players' brains. How could he have even known at the time?
You've got to remember that for a long time no one had any idea that cigarettes caused lung cancer. And claiming such was actually a very big controversy for decades after the evidence started coming out
I think people have had a pretty good idea that repeated head trauma could cause serious long lasting problems for some time now. There have been helmet regulations, kickoff rules, quarterback protection rules since well before Chris Wells even picked up a football. Do you think there are more concussions per game now then let’s say 1990? I would recommend watching some of the interviews that have surfaced from players of that era talking about the current state of football. The amount of concussions hasn’t changed, but our appetite for sensationalized media has definitely changed. These stories get clicks. Imagine yourself being 14 years old. I say “Hey go out there and run full speed into that guy while he’s running full speed at you” Would you have needed 20 articles about CTE research to know that this was a dangerous idea? I doubt it.
I was always taught the break-down, face-mask to the chest slide across to the side and then squeeze technique. And then you have rugby style. It's hard to see how you get brain injuries if you learn either of these and do them. RBs get beat on. So it's more on the tacklers to do it correctly than on them.
So, either guys aren't being taught, they aren't listening, someone isn't monitoring, or worse, telling them to do it the wrong way for views.
I'll be honest, love him to death. But, Ryan Shazier never tackled correctly. He should be feeling the Lord's light shining down on him right now for being able to move his legs. Hopefully, if he plays again, he'll adapt.
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Dear Beanie you can get through this, in 1972 I and several others were involved in a skirmish with the NVA in a small village north of Danang, we were hit by morters, and it was not fun, all of us lived, but we suffered from the concussions of the rounds impact, but even today we suffer from sudden balance loss, hearing loss, and loss of normal abilities of thought, most of us did not know untill we were tested in 2006 for traumatic concussion syndrom (what the military called it), all but 2 of us are still living, albeit we are not here all the same, in other words some days the lights are on, but nobodies home.
most people through the years just thought we were crazy, but that was not true, life will be tough going forward, but you WILL have a wonderful life ahead of you........ so BUCK UP : ) and love life for whatever it gives you !
signed an old man fan