Best for everyone. Harrison, Browning, Borland, Werner and the freshmen all seem to be better.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Good luck Dante
Keep fighting CalPoppy
That’s disappointing. He is a freak athlete, it’s a shame he couldn’t ever be fully healthy.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
That’s disappointing. He is a freak athlete, it’s a shame he couldn’t ever be fully healthy cover my dead grandmother in space.
Buckeye til I die
Well, not everyone is as awesome as the couch sitters wish THEY were.
Well, for one, I’d like to point out that I’m an awesome couchsitter. Why on the weekends, one could say I’m nearly professional at it. Why I’m so good at it that sometimes my wife insists I stay on the couch.
Send the Earth Reverberating
I commend you for your commitment to your craft!
Best of luck, kid. Assuming UC is the place, maybe Coach Fickell can get ya geared up to impress.
This seems out of left field, but all the best Dante!
ONE Not Done!
Amazing we can lose a guy like Booker and feels as if its hardly a hit at all. The talent level on this roster is extreme.
The Browns are the worst franchise in all of professional sport.
Good luck to him. Good luck to Coach Fickell!
New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.
I wonder if this has anything to do with Coach Davis struggling in his first year? He is now heading back to his original position coach. Best of luck to him.
Im guessing more of a mutual, everybody wins, situation.
It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.
Davis apparently figured out how to coach after the Iowa (team) debacle...as the LBs were very good after that point.
wonder what changed after that drubbing?
I have to disagree. Michigan's offense was horrible and O'Korn did some damage throwing to the tight ends and fullbacks. They didn't exactly play lights out vs. Wisconsin either.
The linebackers were consistent in that they were great against everything except covering tight ends. That's why the defense was lackluster in games against OU, PSU, Iowa, Michigan, and Wisconsin, while dominating every other opponent. I still think Davis could be a good coach, but he needs to prove it this year. Last year was sub-optimal.
you left out Sparty (less than 200 yards of total offense...OSU without Baker and Booker in that one)
Illinois is garbage...not gonna bother.
Michigan...held Gentry and McKeon under their season averages per catch attempt. Hill at FB did get that annoying one catch for 10 yards.
Wisconsin...5 for 45 yards for Fumagali was very impressive but ya they let Ramesh out for 2 good gains.
USC...their TEs did nothing terribly noteworthy.
and in all these games the run defense was borderline magnificent.
So, disagree if you have to. I get that Davis is going to get crapped on because for a large chunk of the year his group was underperforming and frankly...a problem. but to me the evidence shows that the problem was largely fixed after Iowa. and after the personnel changes.
The thing is, they played really well before the Iowa game too. The Penn State game wasn't spectacular, but they didn't play terrible. They were great against Army, UNLV, Rutgers, Maryland, and Nebraska. The only games they struggled with were the games where teams threw to their tight ends a lot.
Michigan State's offense doesn't have a lot of tight end involvement relatively speaking. To put it in perspective, I took a few of these teams total passing yards and split them up to find the offense's reliance on the tight end. The results are shown below.
So, it seems that Ohio State last year struggled with offenses when about 30% of their passing game output was distributed to the tight ends and fullbacks. They were lights out against Michigan State and USC because neither team uses the tight end much at all. Also, they definitely improved after Iowa, but they played well before that game too.
My point is that suspiciously, whenever a team relies on throwing to the tight end or fullback, which are generally covered by linebackers (or safeties, to be fair), Ohio State had a tough time defending them. Gentry and McKeon didn't get a ton of yards, but they probably got more than they should have gotten with John O'Korn at quarterback. Ramesh caught the first every fullback wheel route I have ever seen, which was less than ideal.
To your point though, holding Fumagalli was actually an incredible feat, and something that shows improvement from the Iowa game. I will concede that point. I just don't think they improved that much; certainly they did not improve as much as was necessary. I have no issues with Bill Davis, yet I can't heap praise on him for a lack of production from his unit.
appreciate the effort. while I agree with the final conclusion of the jury still being out on Davis (though others clearly have their minds made up already). I do think the overall numbers indicate the defense, and LB play, was significantly better after Iowa.
I think your numbers indicate the improvement in the LB play that I noticed. Even if Ramesh got loose like one time overall the goal was handle Fumi...and the entire defense did just that. Add in holding Michigan's guys under their normal useage numbers (they were at like 25% for that game by my math) and the improvement was there. even if it isn't clear by the raw numbers.
Where it is more clear, IMO, is after that debacle in iowa, OSU help opponents to 2.23 yards per carry - a number that best the season number for nation leader Alabama by a long way (2.72). This was against teams that averaged 4.45 yards per carry. And this was in a stretch that included Sparty, Michigan, Wisconsin and USC...teams that generally make the run game a large part of their identities (even if Sparty's run game was around national average in 2017. OSU's run D was at 2.96 ypc for the whole season - a very good number that's among the very best in the nation - but also shows how strong that 2.23 number really was late in the year.
Getting guys in their most comfortable positions and changing the personnel really paid off late IMO. Unfortunate that Booker couldn't have been a part of it but the unit was pretty clearly better without him from what I can tell.
Good stats there, and a good point. I figured they were that good against the run all year, but your stats show the improvement. Thanks for bringing those up.
In all those games you mentioned it would have helped had our offense kept our defense on the sidelines a little more. Our offense and the ccoaching staff in the BIGCG looked like they were trying their best to keep wisconsin in the game.
MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS
From what I've heard from people connected with the team, that debacle had less to do with coaching and more to do with an issue with some of the linebackers. There were several that missed the next few games with the vague "injury" label, but I've heard they were given that label not because of an injury but as a way to keep the consequences for certain actions in house.
You can't leave us hanging...
Apparently, Davis was able to coach JT into not throwing 4 picks a game.
He struggled. No doubt. Wish it had worked out but we have dudes who need to play.
What implication does Booker leaving have on our scholarship limit? Are we still over the maximum allowable amount once all of the freshmen get started? If we're still over, by how many?
we're at 88 right now....
Link has been taken down. Maybe it was a bit premature.
Team source told them, "Booker's status remains unchanged." Seems like someone may not want Booker's intentions known yet, or maybe they want to see how he performs in spring practice?
I think the writing is on the wall for Booker's status vis a vis playing time next year, transfer or not.
If he wasnt transferring hes going to want to now after reading all of the wonderful comments about him! lol Personally I hope he comes back and has a Curtis Grant type year. You never know who is going to get hurt and who is going to be unexpectedly needed!
Holy shit maybe we'll be able to cover a TE this season!
Good kid. Sorry it didn't work out ... maybe
Thanks for the dance Dante....good luck in the future....Go Bucks
Not super surprising, there was no guarantee he was going to start this year. A lot of young talent behind him.
We will fight to the end for OH-IO!
Since it appears that Booker is not transferring, should not the thread title be changed?
Perhaps the thread should fade away into the 11W archives, like so many have before it.
Until it's needed with the "bump". :)
He's been a no show since day 1. Doesn't seem very engaged with the team at all. There's quite a few players on the team like that. They all need to transfer and give there spots to guys who actually wanna play football. Why go to a blue blood program like Ohio St if you're not gonna give 100%?
That's quite the assumption...
Where are you getting this from?
Sure, and Urban Meyer has a reputation of tolerating so many disengaged "no-shows." Is this his fifth year? A no-show for five years under Urban Meyer. right.
And who are these other "no-shows?"
Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith
Just because he hasn't played well so far in his career doesn't mean he isn't engaged at all. And really there's quite a few players on the team like that? That's ridiculous. I don't know where you are getting this stuff from.
Yep 2 or 3 shoulder surgeries and and MCL sprain and still fighting through it to play for the team, school and state he loves. Get over yourself. Go be a scum fan
Urban has addressed Booker directly, he's injured. As to others you are claiming are not engaged, put up or shut up. No sense in starting unfounded rumors.
I'll admit, I'm not engaged. I should be working but I'm reading 11 Warriors instead...