It's Shazier's life to live. He loves football, it's in his blood, and if he thinks he can play again then hopefully play he will. There will inevitably be those who judge, who insist he's being unfair to himself and his family, and to those people I say live your life and don't worry about what someone else is doing with theirs. No one on earth should ever tell another person what they should or should not be happy with. Happiness is defined by each individual... and football is apparently what makes Shazier happiest.
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I agree with your post. Shazier is a great representative of Ohio State and a great person from everything I’ve read and heard about him. I trust Ryan and his family to make the right decision. As fans, we are not even remotely capable of determining the right decision from the outside. I am not one of Ryan’s doctors, nor am I a member of Ryan’s family. I doubt the original poster is anymore connected to Shazier than I am. It is his decision and as a fan I will support him. I will continue praying for his recovery and the well being of his family. I wish Ryan the absolute best from life. Shazier is a true Buckeye legend. Go Buckeyes!!!!!!!
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What Ryan wants and what an NFL club is willing to do are 2 different things. In light of the concussion discussion that has changed the way football players, coaches and teams address physical wellness of each and every player, it is unlikely that anyone would take a chance on Ryan playing in the NFL again regardless of his wants.No one wants to be the team that let Ryan Shazier become the next Mike Utley or Darryl Stingley.
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It doesn’t say doctors are telling not to play again which would be important I’d say. Beyond the usual “playing football is unwise” of course.
Sometimes people need to be smart enough to realize that God/the universe/fate is sending them a message about their future in a certain endeavor.
I was just watching the Olympics last night and they were talking about Lindsey Vonn. In her time as a skier she has broken her wrist, ankle, and leg. She was Life flighted off of a mountain two days before winning gold in 2010. She tore her ACL twice in 2013 trying to make it back to the games. Some people would say fate was sending her a sign to hang it up. Other would say fuck fate, I'm going to medal again, and then go do it... Looks like Lindsey was the latter.
The world needs comeback story's. I hope Ryan's works out for him.
(As an aside, I am aware that Ryan's injuries are more severe. I'm just illustrating a point. The body can do amazing things when the mind is behind it.)
Great point. Vinny Pazienza is another example of epic comebacks. Pazienza broke his neck, recovered from his injuries, started boxing again, and then won a title even though he was risking paralysis and every doctor thought he was batshit crazy. Bleed for This was a pretty good movie based on his story. Shazier will make this decision for himself, with help from his family. I trust Ryan Shazier and stand behind him.
obviously it's great that he has a positive attitude as I'm sure that helps motivate him to work hard in his recovery. but i'd be shocked if he were able to play football in the NFL again
Tell him to his face to hang it up.
If playing again is what is fueling him to get through rehabilitation and is the fire that is driving him, who are we to tell him otherwise. Maybe once he's better he'll reconsider. Maybe not. But right now getting back out there is his rocket fuel motivation.
Why try to take that away?
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Spot on. That is what is being missed by anyone saying he needs someone in his ear to 'talk some sense into him'.
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It is likely that his desire to play again is absolutely fueling his progress. If/when he stops progressing, if that isn't good enough to play again, then someone can have that conversation with him.
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All I'd ask from Shazier if he was to play again would be to take a few Rugby tackling clinics. I understand why players tackle head first (more likely to separate player from ball) However it's dangerous and by using proper technique many of these football injuries would be avoided.
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Sorry but this is just plain ignorance and a lack of concern for those around you that love you. If single, no family, no friends, etc. then by all means play your heart out.
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That's one way to look at it...but if he's medically cleared and isn't at additional risk because of the previous injury, he could also say what are the chances it happens again? I mean, as many games are played, how often do we really see these serious injuries happen? Not diminishing them, but they are somewhat rare, which is why they are such a big deal when they do happen.
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Or maybe its a goal that drives him in rehab. Saying he wants to play again doesn't mean he will ever play again. He is not being ignorant at all.
Love Shazier. One of the greatest Buckeyes of all time. Very much a "live by the sword, die by the sword"-type player. I am just going to wish him the best, whatever he does.
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I really hope he never plays football again.
I hope he is able to play again. That means he made a complete recovery.
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Shazier has always been kind of insane, in a good way.
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In a ......glad he's one of ours kinda way
Right. A long time ago I started a thread titled something like "Pick a Buckeye to have your back in a Street Fight" and Shazier was my choice.
EDIT: Found it. https://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/ohio-state-football/2016/01/66738/s...
I mean, Tedy Bruschi survived a stroke and congenital heart defect and made a full recovery to come back and win a super bowl ring. It seems crazy, but if it's what he truly wants to do and he can get fully cleared by the doctors, then he should go for it.
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I think its great to have goals and want to accomplish something. Work hard and make progress and keep your options open. He can always choose not to down the road. But quitting before you start? Not sure what that accomplishe.
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Too many thoughtful responses on this thread, so ill just try to reply in one post:
While I'm all for people making their own decisions, and I want people to find happiness, I'm also for calling out those I care about (to me family and friends,) for making a poor choice; or rather, help them make the best choices.
Not the choice that makes me happy, but what I think would make them happy. So I would hope that those in Shazier's camp put the brakes on this idea.
Most importantly, we do not want everyone (including Buckeye nation) to blindly encourage him to chase his dreams and end up a paraplegic. How would that reflect on OSU fans, team mates, and former coaches who encouraged him to play?? Imagine him coming back and ending up a paraplegic or even a quadriplegic.
I'd rather see Buckeye Nation show it cares about its own in that regard.
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It’s not your decision to make.
"Not the choice that makes me happy, but what I think would make them happy."
You then proceeded to state what would make you happy and not what would make Ryan Shazier happy as I would wager you have never met him and have no clue what would make him happy.
Have a very hard time believing he will ever suit up again in a competitive manner. I would love to see it happen and become a best picture movie some day, just cant fathom it in my tiny pea.
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I have three hopes for Mr. Shazier:
1. I hope he can play again.
2. I hope he decides not to play again.
3. I hope he saved / invested enough money that he doesn't have to play again.
All of these reports stem from his appearance on Roosevelt Nix's podcast. Hear what he has to say for yourself:
I can't imagine a doctor clearing him to play again. He could be one bad hit away from being paralyzed. Gotta think about life after football.
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at least in terms of $$ and what happens with his current contract...
....shazier is doing exactly what he needs to be doing/saying.
(and frankly so is the steeler org)
Fantastic goal, IMO. Even if he never plays again, I'd love to see him get physically ready to play and choose to walk away over never being able to get back to that point physically. It's a mindset, IMO.
And who am I to talk that goal down? I hope he makes it hard as hell for medical personnel to keep him off the field. That means he's crushing his recovery.
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Closing and redirecting to the staff thread here: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2018/02/91244/ryan-sh...
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