Touted 2017 Signees Josh Myers, Wyatt Davis Could Be In Line for Expanded Roles Following Redshirt Seasons

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lamplighter's picture

Any chance Jordan moves to tackle?

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rblackbu's picture

Good question. I think if he does, that is a bad sign and tells us that our tackles really aren’t B10 material. I would love to see Munford get a shot a LT

"When you help someone up a hill, you get that much closer to the top yourself..."

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Buckeye06's picture

I would disagree.  As said we only have 3-4 tackles and tons of guards.  Get your best 5 on the field and that my include Jordan at T.  We have tons of talent at guard in the wings with the 2 mentioned here in addition to 5 others 

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tbirnbrich's picture

Technically Jordan was a T coming out of HS, so really him moving inside had more to do with the G depth. If he moves back to his recruited position then the G depth must've gotten better.

It is hard to tell which depth is worse with the way we play out 5 best. But I do think they have newfound success in the G to C rotation each year so maybe putting Jordan out there is going to work in a similar fashon.

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

If Bowen is 100% healthy I think he's our left tackle. But college players don't always come back from gruesome injury the same.

The real question for me is what they do if Bowen isn't at peak performance this year. The staff has seemed sour of Pridgeon, Alabi is a career backup. I think you have to look at Jordan at tackle, maybe move price left and Jordan right.

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Ronnie's picture

I would be ok if they just did away with the redshirt rule. You get 4 years to play 4 years, and one penalty free transfer if a head coach leaves. 

Boom! Boom!

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EZE4TD's picture

Didn't DV you, but what good does that do? Only hurts the kids.

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Ronnie's picture

Didn't realize this was a hot take. 

I think it would eliminate some log jams and give younger guys a chance to compete. 

I don't see how it would hurt the kids at 23 years old. Most alreyhave their undergraduate degree and very few improve their draft stock. 

Boom! Boom!

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LW O-H's picture

 I like that tv commercial with Jerry Rice. He says there are over 480,000 college athletes and only 2% of them go pro. Those athletes are paid with a scholarship to earn a degree. which for most will carry them through life in a career. Sure, their dreams are to go pro, and they should strive for that. But, the brotherhood of the team makes them want to do the best they can for the team. And much more so in their last year of school.

 GO BUCKS!!

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EZE4TD's picture

The biggest factor is an injury. It's hard to play such a violent sport for multiple years and stay injury free. Its very difficult to play as a freshman, maybe you start to see the field as a soph. You start as a junior but get injured. If you make it back, you only have one real year to play. I know I just made up a scenario that makes my point, but it has the potential to be a pretty common scenario. And then figure almost no linemen could play as freshmen, so that's 9 positions that would-unofficially-get 3 yrs of eligibility. Interesting take, but to me feels too much like you are making the kids more disposable cogs.

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McGrind's picture

I like what Malzone did at ttun...buried on the depth chart...increased his focus in the class room...College degree in his pocket and two years of eligibility left. Would rather see the carrot of getting a degree than just transferring for a shot at more playing time. 

ttun 2019 offense...same pig, different lipstick.

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Browns88's picture

The offensve line unit will be an intriguing competition this year.  

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Txsbuckeye's picture

Michael Jordan was a guard only on the basketball court. 

#TheBuckeyesAgainstTheWorld

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Rocket Man's picture

It'll be interesting to watch all this talent develop.

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NorthBerg's picture

In my opinion, the jury is still out on whether or not Studrawa can actually develop talent, or at the very least, develop depth.

Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72

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BuckeyeCrusdader's picture

Really? I thought the O-line improved tremendously from 2016 to 2017. Depth is a recruiting issue.

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NorthBerg's picture

Your assessment on the starters is spot on, but my concern surrounds how many reserves will be game ready.

Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72

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AnotherBuckeyefan's picture

Did Tyler Gerald end up transferring to another school or did he give up football?

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NorthBerg's picture

A quick internet search on Gerald after his transfer announcement seems to indicate he is out of football. At least there is no mention of a "transfer to" school.

Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72

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AnotherBuckeyefan's picture

I didn't find anything when I searched either; I was hoping some of the more insider poster would know something

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rblackbu's picture

What is the likely good of OSU taking a look at Davis at center?  

"When you help someone up a hill, you get that much closer to the top yourself..."

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stxbuck's picture

I'd say fairly low-Brady Taylor will get the first shot, and Matt Jones seems to be the heir apparent at C. Burrell would probably get a shot at C before Davis also.

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

It will be an interesting year for our OL. We have recruited a ton of talent the last couple of years and it is time for that talent to perform on the field of play. 

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Brandon26841's picture

Intrigued by these two, but I'm taking a wait and see approach with these OL from now on... a lot of highly-regarded guys have went on to have some underwhelming careers here lately. 

I don't think they much much of an impact in 2018, but 2019 will be big for them. 

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BuckeyeRocket's picture

One of these two (Myers/ Davis) could be a starting guard.  Remember that as good as Billy Price was, he too red-shirted as a true freshman. By the end of 2014 though he was killing it. (Insert 85 yards through the heart of the South video here).

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NHBuckeye's picture

I wonder if Myers could win the Center spot?  He is incredibly strong, like Price.  

From left to right, something like Prince, Jordan, Myers, Davis, Bowens could be very interesting. 

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Buck68's picture

agree Myers' ability to learn pass-pro & become starter+ quality at tackle is arguably a key to where opportunity lies, second only to Munford's continued rapid development.

Haven't seen or heard much at all about our OL coaching strengths or weaknesses.

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NOBLUE's picture

offensive line rotation ?????

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RB's picture

That's tough bc how important chemistry is amongst the linemen.  Every snap, even against the scrub teams, matters in fusing the five lineman into one cohesive unit by the time November roles around.

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

Wyatt Davis is going to start this year. Book it!

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RB's picture

Hot take- like it.  Can't argue that if a dark horse emerges to start, Davis in the most likely candidate.  I am not confident in Taylor at center.  If he was ready, wouldn't he have been in the mix for one if the open guard spots the last two years?  I think with the number of talented guys in the mix, thee is a good chance someone steps up and forces their way into the starting five.  It will be fun to see how this pans out.

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

The way I see it Pridgeon and Knox have had plenty of opportunities and haven't run away with them.  So I'd like to see some young blood step up and I think Wyatt Davis is the most talented.

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BuckeyeCrusdader's picture

left to right

Prince, Jordan, Taylor, Knox, Bowen
 

back ups

Alabi, Davis, Burrell, Myers, Munford

Burrell could be a transer candidate if he doesn't win a starting job.. I think malcom pridgeon is a transfer candidate

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Buck68's picture

Crusader... agree it makes senses for Pridgeon to transfer where he can play immediately if he does not win a spot this spring, and still has pro aspirations....

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stxbuck's picture

Unless he graduates, Pridgeon might not be able to transfer, given his status as a JUCO transfer-w/ a RS year to boot.

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jonping67's picture

I will eat my boot if Prince or Jordan is not the left tackle and I give the nod to Prince. As for the remaining positions I see it like this....
Prince - LT
Jordan - LG
Burrell - C
Bowen (If recovered, insert Knox if not) - RG
Munford - RT

I would like Urban to play a 2nd team line once in a while. Tressel did it at OSU with good success and I think this group could not only hold their own, but push the 1st unit.

Alabi - LT
Myers - LG
Taylor - C
Davis - RG
Fere - RT

Anyway we slice this the o-line WILL be nasty good, especially by the time November rolls around.

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BuckeyeCrusdader's picture

If Bowen is playing right guard and you don't have Knox on your second team.. I don't understand. I thought Knox finally stepped up and i expect him to start at right guard. Bowen is not naturally a guard.. I see him kicking out to right tackle and edging out Munford for that job. I have no idea if Pridgeon is going to transfer or will shift back to Tackle to provide depth, I feel good about the 2 deep at guard and center.. tackle still not feeling great.

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tussey's picture

I'd say it will be Prince or Bowen at LT not Prince or Jordan.  Bowen is a tackle that moved to guard last season in camp in order to get the best 5 linemen on the field.  

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bakerjon's picture

I really think it looks like this

Jordan LT
Bowen LG
Taylor/Burrell C
Knox RG
Prince RT

First guy of the bench is likely the loser at the center battle, and they reshuffle as needed with Bowen moving to tackle if God forbid one goes down.

Second team
Pridgeon LT
Davis LG
Taylor/Burrell C
Myers RG
Munford RT

Pigeon was really bright here as a tackle, and with lack of depth there, I think he moves out, but still doesn't find the field apart from special teams. The youth movement is on inside and this could be your OL next season basically. If NPF were an early enrollee he might slide in somewhere, but these will all have a leg up with spring ball

I also think if Taylor clearly loses the center battle in the spring, he could transfer. If it's an ongoing battle or he wins it, he clearly stays. I think it will be an ongoing battle through fall camp with someone emerging early in the fall, likely Burrell

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Buckster's picture

My early take:

Prince - LT
Jordan - LG
Burrell - C
Knox - RG
Munford - RT/ Bowen (playing time reps could be split here)

Second team:
Bowen/ Alabi - LT (Bowen backs up both tackles followed by Alabi)
Davis/ then Pridgeon - LG
Taylor - C
Myers - RG (Myers & Davis s/b able to play both Guard positions)
Bowen - RT

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stxbuck's picture

I agree w/ your projection, especially about Bowen/Munford slugging it out for the RT spot. It will be interesting to see if Jones can force his way into the lineup at C. Petit-Frere might not RS-but will clearly be groomed to take over at LT in 19', when Prince leaves.

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BuckminsterFullback's picture

As we sort thru the various permutations, a couple factors to consider, beyond the questions of "how well suited is {Player X} is play tackle?"

1. Meyer and Studrawa probably don't want 2 first-year players side-by-side, they probably aren't thrilled about a first-year player beside a guy who is playing a new position, and they probably don't want a first-year player at Center. If any of those scenarios manifest, it probably means that the first-year guys have absolutely excelled in practice.

2. The winner of the QB battle might have an impact on the OL composition, as it will affect the balance of drop-back pass attempts vs. QB runs.

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domeeye's picture

Why not put the best 5 out there? I think Michael Jordan would be a better tackle than Bowden, and he has the expirence to back it up. And I would love to see what Davis can do at LG. He's got the body for it more than Jordan or Bowen. Here's my wish list

LT-Jordan

LG-Davis

C-Burrel/Taylor

RG-Knox

RT-Prince

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buckslan's picture

I think Davis blows up and proves he's one of the best 5 linemen. He's going to show that he deserves to play at one of those guard spots and that'll make the transition for Jordan out to tackle much easier.

LT - Isaiah Prince
LG - Wyatt Davis
C - Brady Taylor
RG - Demetrius Knox
RT - Michael Jordan

Instead of the traditional second string backup, I think Bowen would probably replace any tackle or guard if they were to go down to injury. Burrell would back up Brady Taylor at C.

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bafiesta's picture

LT - Prince
LG - Jordan
C - Taylor (Burrell a possibility, this position could also be impacted if Bowen loses RT competition as Bowen will definitely find a starting position) 
RG - Knox 
RT - Bowen (Munford is a real possibility, but Bowen the favorite)

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Andrew Ellis's picture

I just have this feeling Taylor isn't going to be the starting center. 

osu992's picture

Like an informed feeling or a sense the staff doesn't want someone to be taking experience reps as a fifth year?

New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.

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buckslan's picture

If not Taylor, then who? I can't see the staff putting true freshman Matthew Jones in there snapping the ball to a new QB. The only other logical choices are Matt Burrell and Demetrius Knox. Personally I think Knox should stay at that RG spot. The next best option would probably be Burrell.

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