Despite Lackluster Performance, Ohio State Doesn't View Loss To Penn State As a Flashback to Last Season

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IGotAWoody's picture

I think 2 takeaways from this game are

1) you have to give major credit to Penn State and

2) how the team responds @TTUN will tell us even more than this one about this year's team and it's prospects for the post season.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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Blackcoffee's picture

Tate..."or whatever"... priceless

Go Bucks!

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cledaybuck's picture

I would take like last year for the game at UM this weekend.

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Sanantonefan's picture

Last season it seemed that it was this way most games. This year--not so much. Let's make this an aberration and come out swinging against TTUN! Go Bucks!

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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Bucknicks's picture

We need guards. Guards and more guards. Right now we got 2 true guards in my mind Jallow who's young and needs development offensively and Williams who's kinda a one trick pony. After that we have 2 back up point guards that force tate a forward to play point. Then we got SF and PF which is our strength.

We need another offensive minded guard that can consistently go off for 15 to 18 points with KBD and tate. Then we could talk about a damn good team.

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Hovenaut's picture

It's not all on Ohio State.

I could only stomach the first half last night (at least I'm being honest), but I was stunned at how good PSU is.

That's a solid team they have, to be clear.

Still, expected more from the good guys. And expect they'll bounce back.

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Buckeye Bill's picture

I have to admit that I switched to the Olympics after the 2nd phantom foul was called on Tate by TV Teddy. When I saw who had the whistle, I knew we were screwed.

"Bring back St John"

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PhillyNut's picture

Last night I think Teddy only influenced how big the loss was and not the actual loss and not enough that if had not been making the calls that the momentum could have shifted to the Buckeyes.  It was just a really good night for Penn State and bad one for the good guys.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Penn state is good. I wouldn't be surprised to see them win the Big 10 Tourney.

OSU's effort was awful last night. I hope they take Sunday seriously 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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OldColumbusTown's picture

My takeaway from last night is just how impressive a job Chris Holtmann has done with this team.  He has taken a group with one eventual pro (KBD) and a bunch of guys with flaws, and turned them into a group that is 13-2 in the conference.  Penn State is much more talented athletically than Ohio State, and their athletes are beginning to consistently make plays.

With that said, the effort and intensity could have been much better - especially down low in the paint and on the glass.  Guys were not aggressive offensively, and that resulted in many late forced shots.  Defensively, guys were getting lost and did not close out quickly enough. 

All in all, they need to scrap this as a bad performance and get ready for a huge game on Sunday.  With the veteran leadership and Holtmann in command, I am confident we will see a different team next time out.

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Buck61's picture

Last night  was the first game I had issues with his coaching He did use use one time put in the first half while PSU was building up a big lead. He did not  use the first half time out until under 25 seconds to go with a 42-19 score and by then the game was out of hand. I can understand his frustration with the officials last night but his game management comes into question.

You're not going to win many games when you shoot under 30% in the first half,  including 0-7 from three ,your post players can't get shots off  They couldn't match the intensity on defense and were getting the defense broken down by PSU. They were beaten badly with second chance points and fast break points in the first half. We have been getting good bench play as well, last night none of them and provided a spark. Once again PSU was making some low percentage shots.  Hopefully this becomes a earning experience and a source of motivation to all.

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langweilig's picture

Our teams core is a bunch of 4 stars. Penn state's is not. How are they more talented exactly?

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ZachariahScholl's picture

Very hard game to watch, hoping we can bounce back in a BIG way vs Michigan. Also hoping we don't have to come across Penn St in the B1G tournament #Plz

Go Bucks!

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

Meh....OSU has been punked by them both times physically and that is unacceptable. Micah Potter with the slam down dunk was the beast and that kind of intensity was missing from most players. If we play them again, OSU needs to go right at them down in the paint and play zone. That is PSU's kryptonite. It is a matter of attitude as well. You have to want it like they did.

Saban on a cart eating cold pizza

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vball10set's picture

Micah Potter with the slam down dunk was the beast and that kind of intensity was missing from most players.

That was the only thing he did of substance the other night, and has been maddeningly inconsistent all season. Please don't use him as an example of anything except an occasional spark off the bench. IMO, he'd be an excellent MAC player, ala JD Weatherspoon.

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

Totally disagree....

Saban on a cart eating cold pizza

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ibuck's picture

Buckeyes, at least start the game vs TTUN playing good defense, blocking out and rebounding. Make them earn it all game long.

Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !

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TheShookster's picture

It's not like last year.

They cut the lead to 16 when it had risen to 30. Last year's team would have lost this one by 40.

It's a bad matchup, and when KBD is completely off his game, it's hard to not lose by a lot. I hope Carr goes pro and we never have to play against that dude again

He ain't even stretch doe!!

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MichaelJ721984's picture

Our goals are all still right in front of us. Beat Michigan! 

Any of you esteemed Buckeyes know why there’s such a long delay between the Big Ten Tourney and the start of the tournament this year? Big Ten thing or all of NCAA thing? 

Michigan sucks.

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awlinBrutus's picture

Because its at Madison Square Grden and the Big East Tourney is there every year, so they got the better scheduling.

MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS

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MichaelJ721984's picture

Jesus Christ I forgot we’re playing it there. Idiots. Thanks for the answer good sir. 

Michigan sucks.

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

I think Holtmann, KBD, and Tate will lead this team to have a great response at TTUN Sunday. 

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KBonay's picture

If you are going to lose, lose in Feb.  Not in March.

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ScarletGray43157's picture

Was there any update on Kaleb Wesson's injury?  

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

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MudBuck's picture

It was what it was, not ready to think the sky has fallen... bright spots were the play of Potter and Young, both had energy and toughness, unfortunately it was probably the worst game of the year for KBD, that happens. Plus, the K. Wesson injury seemed to derail the early game plan which was working, by the time he came back it was a big deficit... It seems PSU thinks their road to redemption and legitimacy as an athletic department runs through beating OSU... as far as I'm concerned that institution has no redemption.

MudBuck

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BuckWylde's picture

The wonderful thing about this season is that it's being played with house money!!! If we lose so what?--nobody expected us to do very well with these athletes anyway. It's been a real pleasure to see that the new system can work with decent talent that's willing to stick to the coach's script and play with effort and energy.  I'm really anxious to see what happens when we're able to sign more athletic kids, like Penn State, MSU, TTUN have; and like all of the traditional national powerhouse programs do. Starting next season we'll have more ball handling, quickness, hops and shooting to blend in with the solid returnees from this team. Watching this undermanned squad play so well has me pretty excited going forward and thankful to have witnessed this season's unexpected success--GO BUCKS!!!!!

All progress has resulted from people who took unpopular positions. -Adlai Stevenson, governor, US ambassador

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ibuck's picture

Without Tate, Kam, Dakich and (probably) KBD, I'm not sure next year's team will be as successful as this year's. Generally, incoming freshmen will be, well, freshmen, adjusting to the speed, strength, and vastly improved competition of D1 and B1G play. Is there a chance I'll be wrong? Maybe.

Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !

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ZachariahScholl's picture

Other players can step up hopefully!

Go Bucks!

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Buck68's picture

IF we mean what we say... each word counts towards effective communication > common understanding > specific fixes/adjustments > team effort & cohesion....  

Example 1:  "I wouldn't say a flashback, we just have to learn our lesson."

'flashback' means look back; 'learn our lesson' means collect data to identify and learn the lesson.

Example 2.  "Make sure these don't compound."

this is a platitude generality; there is no actionable method or skill input here.  This belongs under team attitude/cohesion

Example 3.  "Things like this, they don't happen often," Tate said.

A classic from the Family of Non-sequiturs we reinforce daily without thinking.  Fact:  "things... do not "happen".

Example 4.   "Giving up 45 points in the first half is unacceptable."

this is another classic drink from the glass you just half-emptied.  It belongs with the 'value' of 'i feel bad'.

Example 5.  "We have to learn from that and make sure it doesn't happen again."

this is a simple 'everybody knows' - but profound - 'then why do we keep doing it' reaction.  It is the epitome of di-gression and mis-leading from the continuing task at hand... TODAY.  It is a most common, habitual example of taking another step in 'the wrong direction'... which we do so often we don't think it 'matters'.  Yet, if 'self-control' and 'purpose' matters... this phrase is a ravaging monster wearing a common outfit and smile.  

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Northwestern doing osu a solid right now. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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ZachariahScholl's picture

O-H ! Buckeye bucks gotta bounce back today!

Go Bucks!

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