Ohio State a No. 4 Seed in Initial NCAA Bracket Preview

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Buckeyeman's picture

Amazing to be in this spot compared to what we were all expecting.

Go Bucks

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DroneBuck's picture

Even more amazing that they have still have Purdue as a 1 seed and us at a 4 considering we will pass them when the the rankings are updated tomorrow. Ridiculous actually.

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LB U's picture

What's ridiculous is Oklahoma as a 4 seed after losing 6 of 8 games.

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kareemabduljacobb's picture

I think Purdue will stay ahead of us even though they have dropped 2 straight.  All 4 of their losses have been by 4 points or less. 

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Dillon G's picture

It won't matter when Ohio State is champions of the Big Ten tournament. They will be above Purdue.

#walkaway

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Buck68's picture

a - mazing we will go

a - mazing we will gough

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a daze - ing O - HI - O.

...and then... 'out of nowhere' ...  ;-{)}

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Bukirob's picture

Originally, the thought was can we just be good enough to actually GET to the NCAA?

You WIN with people.

 

 

WW Hayes

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Sampson8080's picture

I was hoping they would qualify for the NIT to get a couple extra games and practices.

Talk about selling them short!

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Horvath22's picture

Can you say Chris Holtmann?

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bucknut1994's picture

#94Ways

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Tennessee ahead of osu makes no sense. Tennessee got smoked yesterday 

oklahoma loses weekly and never drops

Put osu in the bracket with Xavier

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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ohiowhitesnake's picture

I thought it was too low, but these rankings mean nothing. Keep winning and playing team ball. 

11W > work 

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SaltyD0gg's picture

Amazing that people still think Purdue and MSU should be ranked ahead of OSU.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Purdue will not survive the first weekend of the tournament 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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BrutusB's picture

Unfortunately OSU went 0-4 in meaningful non conference games. Mich St smoked the same UNC that destroyed us. 

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PhillyNut's picture

Losing by 14 in basketball is not getting destroyed, especially when it is to a top 16 team. Getting destroyed is what happened yesterday to Tennessee by a middling Alabama. But yet they still managed to get a 4 seed. Go figure.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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Macke777's picture

Ohio State has improved so much since then that it’s a moot point to even think about our early OOC games. After all, we smoked the same MSU team that destroyed UNC and beat Purdue on the road. Those wins should matter a hell of a lot more than those OOC losses because they are a more accurate picture of the team’s quality right now. Gonzaga, Clemson, and Butler all have respectable teams as well, so it’s not like those are horrible losses anyways. 

Ohio State: The best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.

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BrutusB's picture

I agree that we’ve improved a lot since then but that doesn’t mean those games suddenly don’t count anymore. It just means we’d have a slightly tougher matchup in the tourney compared to who we’d face if we had won those early games. 

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Macke777's picture

We’ll see. If we keep winning, we could end up as a 2  or maybe even a top seed. 

Ohio State: The best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.

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Eye27's picture

Great but can we still use this as motivation and play the disrespect card for the rest of the season?

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Cooper's picture

To be honest, I would take it as disrespect that the committee thinks Oklahoma (lost 6 of their last 8) is as deserving of a 4 seed as Ohio State. I would say that’s pretty disrespectful towards the Buckeyes.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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Eye27's picture

Oklahoma’s ranking must be based on the talent of just one player. 

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RBloodworth's picture

So, basically, the Selection Committee thinks that we’re fake good- a beneficiary of a weak B1G.  The only way to disprove that notion is to keep proving them wrong, like we’ve been doing since December.

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gr8bucks's picture

I wouldn't call a four seed fake good necessarily, although the big is putrid. Who advances is all about matchups anyhow. Plus it only matters when pencil meets paper. 

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SFlaBuckeye13's picture

Tough region.

Just win baby 

The world is yours

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Committee certainly does not like Michigan State 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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RBloodworth's picture

They don’t seem to have much regard for the B1G outside of Purdue, and, honestly, I’m not sure that the conference has earned it this year.

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Macke777's picture

I think it’s pretty safe to say that all of the conferences are a little off this year from past years. The BIG is strong at the top, but lacks the depth that the conference has typically had over the last five to ten years. The middle of the pack has still managed to be competitive at times, so who really knows. College Basketball is a crapshoot. 

Ohio State: The best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

If auburn, Texas tech, Kansas are all high seeds then I feel good about Ohio State. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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OSUTexan's picture

This should be motivation.  It's insulting to be behind Purdue and MSU.

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Hovenaut's picture

Regular season bizness to finish, and work to be done in that B1G tourney.

But it's great to ponder NCAA tourney possibilities for sure.

Axe cancer. 

Paralyze resistance with persistence.

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LW O-H's picture

 GO BUCKS!!

"The most important statistic, is the number of wins in a season".........Woody Hayes

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Hovenaut's picture

Well struck.

Axe cancer. 

Paralyze resistance with persistence.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Need to finish strong. Don’t want to slide lower than a four 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Ohio State went 2-2 against four of the top 12 seeds. 

UNC is 17-7 and ranked 21st but it's a three seed? #11 St. Mary's (23-2) and #12 Gonzaga (21-4) both seem more deserving.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Sampson8080's picture

If the committee has shown one thing over the years, it's that they'll always pick a big name (or a big conference) over a team without the big name. It's pretty crummy.

I'd much rather see the second place team out of a small conference than the 8th place SEC (or B1G) team.

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Mantis's picture

So many things wrong with these seeds, but hey, nobody expected us to even be sniffing a top 16, so whatever.  

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Buckeye Payne's picture

What an absolute joke of a bracket. Ohio State as a 4 is laughable (too low), Oklahoma as a 4 is horrible (WAY too high), Michigan State should easily be a 1 or 2, and Purdue should be a 3 at best. It ultimately doesn’t matter yet but my God this is terrible.

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bucksfan92's picture

First of all, it's just stupid they are doing this.  They are bowing to pressure from TV for ratings.  And it's totally meaningless.  If we win out and have an outright B1G title, and follow that up with a run to the B1GT finals I think we end up on the 2 line.  And there isn't a single 1 seed that worries me.  CBB is not strong this year and the tournament is W I D E open.  Go Bucks!  Keep this rolling.

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keith7456's picture

Purdue loses 2 in a row and is now 3rd in the big ten yet still a #1 seed....this is why I hate places doing early rankings in sports. Once you are ranked high you stay there even if you start losing. Same thing happena with sec teams in football. They all beat each other but get the benefit of beating a ranked team.

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Eye27's picture

2 losses in a row and one of them at home. 

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buckeye14's picture

Have to factor in our non conference record and not getting any big wins there. With that being said I still think we should at least be a 3 seed considering we have beaten both Michigan State and Purdue and are first in the B1G with 4 games left

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85throughtheheartofthesouth's picture

Can we all just take a second to appreciate CH. We were just happy that a change was coming and he would start to get the program turned back around in 2 or 3 years. This man is doing it in his first season. Thoroughly impressed with this hire.

Nathan Young

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WC Buckeye's picture

Yep. If our only “bad” loss is to Penn State (on a buzzer-beater), I’ll take that. Go on and wreck some brackets, then, boys.

The only thing that's new in the world is the history that we have forgotten.

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

As bad losses go, that one is looking less bad all the time. Penn State is safely in the top half of the conference. 

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

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WC Buckeye's picture

I’d take a blowout against them at their place, but a last-second dagger to their hearts wouldn’t hurt my feelings, either.

The only thing that's new in the world is the history that we have forgotten.

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The Rill Dill's picture

It’s amazing to me that this time last year, all we heard was....’but Thad wins 20 games every season’,....OR.......’who could we get that is better than Matta?’

Problem solved.

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I'm Ron Burgundy's picture

I would have liked to think the @Purdue win would push us to the #3 line, so this is a little worrisome if this is where the committee values us today after that win.  Reading at the bottom of the article it reveals Tennessee is 13th overall, so their top #4 seed, and they list Arizona as #15, so I guess that means they rank the Buckeyes #14 overall.

The truth of the matter is our resume was a little thin until that Purdue win, but it should be carrying a little more weight. And unfortunately other than @TTUN there's not many opportunities to improve it until the semis or even finals of the B1G tourney.  

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BucksinNYC's picture

Please no.

My wife is a Villanova grad. Let’s play Xavier or Virginia in the Sweet 16.

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DrSpaceman's picture

Tennessee will fizzle out down the stretch. Absolutely unbelievable how overvalued Oklahoma is.

Also, what this tells me is that we had nothing to gain and everything to lose with the Purdue game, which is really the *opposite* of what it should be. IMO our seed ranking would've dropped to 6 or 7 with a loss there and instead of jumping to a 3 seed with the win, we stay at 4, which is where I think Bracketology has had us since the loss to Penn State.

Yep, you guessed it folks, I'm #MadOnline.

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

Is Kirby Hocutt running this shit show, too? 

From Team Tater to Team See Ya Later.

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The Rill Dill's picture

‘The margin of difference in Ohio State being a 3 seed instead of a 4 seed is razor thin.’

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Ole Buckeye's picture

Funny that the bracketology experts say we had one "bad loss", and that was against PSU.

I understand where that comes from, but really, the PSU loss is one of those losses that can happen anytime, combining a little lackluster defense by OSU and then PSU aberrantly shooting the lights out.  Had we played close to our normal defense, or if they had shot close to their average, we still win by 10. 

I feel worse about our losses to Butler and Clemson, after being up by dd. 

However, that leads me to my next observation, which is how nicely Coach Holtmann has used those losses as teaching tools.  I feel so much better about us holding on to a lead, or not panicking when we are down 10, or 14, or 20. 

It's crazy - going strictly by the "eye test", to me we still look like a middle of the pack team.  But that's why basketball is a great sport , and why coaches make a difference.  

Cheers and congratulations all around. 

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0H-10's picture

Yeah; three Ohio teams in that 16!

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buckeyefan67's picture

speaking of Ohio against the world  theme,  wasn't there a forum topic  about that available just a couple days ago?  Mods, was it deleted ?

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OSUBucknut2002's picture

Yeah, part of the reason why I remembered that phrase 

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RMLogic's picture

The committee values non- conference records against ranked teams and unfortunately the Buckeyes are 0-4.

Purdue is 3-1. UNC is 3-1 Sparty 2-1 and Clemson 2-0.

No doubt if OSU does not gag the Butler game and the Clemson home game they would be on the 2 line.

The next 2 road games at Penn St and Michigan will help if they can win both.

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Seattle Linga's picture

Keep focused and win the B1G tourney and let the chips fall where they will.

Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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UrbanBuckeye's picture

How on earth are Cincinnati and Auburn worthy of 2 seeds and MSU is not? So odd. Still lots of ball left though.

Harbaugh puts ketchup on his steak.

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BuckinArk's picture

Lunardi has OSU as a 3 seed in the East.  

Class of 81

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Rocket Man's picture

Amazing, especially since there were forum posts on this supreme fan sight very recently wondering if they'd even make it in.  

Expectations exceeded.

"Luck is my middle name. Mind you, my first name is Bad."

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NutBuckz's picture

any word on Kam Williams? 

It's 2018 and TTUN still sucks!!!

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

I have no idea why Oklahoma is in the top 16. Tennessee is also somewhat perplexing. Duke as a 2 is also odd. Anyway, the committee always does severeal stupid things. Hopefully none of them bite Ohio State.

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nitro27man's picture

NONE of this seeding crap means a thing. Just win the next game and then the next one. Perhaps the PSU loss came at just the right time to get the focus back. We owe Pig State one, anyway.

The guys are playing very well together right now...

J. Scott

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RMLogic's picture

Only fans worry about seedings. Once the tourney starts just beat who is in front of you.

What makes the Big Dance the best sporting event of all is that basketball is a game where team matters, not hype and recruiting and school name. Teams like New Mexico State,MTSU, St. Marys, FGCU can beat the big boys.

This year is primed for many upsets.

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stxbuck's picture

Seeding might not matter but matchups  created by it sure as hell do. Just look at the tOSU FF run in 99' and the performance of the 12' team against UK in 11'. The 11' team was the best in the country, and in line for a NC run, but they ran into a bad matchup w/ UK-mobile big men-and got bounced in the S16.

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buckeyefan67's picture

Let's first see how the Bucks do in the BIG tourney and then see our seedings.

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PhillyNut's picture

Right now the Buckeyes are being penalized for those non conference losses even though they are clearly a different team but seeding perceptions in basketball are built on the non conference performance. All they can do is keep taking care of business.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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stxbuck's picture

You have to remember-the tourney IS a non-conference schedule for the most part. Sometimes teams that are having a really good season-but aren't great-tOSU-positively- this year, Xavier last year-negatively-begin to have their season defined by their conference performance, and the script gets flipped really quick in the tournament.

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PhillyNut's picture

Funny thing is that none of us three months ago would have thought we would be discussing if being a 4 seed is too low for this team. Good time to be a Buckeye fan.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

They're being penalized (if that's the right word) more because the Big Ten isn't very good. People complaining about Oklahoma also being a #4 in this bracket probably haven't noticed how ridiculously deep the Big 12 is this season. 

If the Bucks go 2-2 in their last 4 conference games and get to at least the semis of the tournament, they will probably end up around a #4. 

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

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stxbuck's picture

Eeeeeeyow-Villanova AND Duke in the Buckeyes bracket-not good. South and Midwest look a lot easier, imo. A lot of the top teams this year are grinder teams-UVa,Purdue,UC,Xavier,Clemson-they are tough and well coached, but so is tOSU and the Buckeyes can hang with them from a talent standpoint. If Villanova or Duke get hot, they can make a team look really outmatched, really quick.

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McGrind's picture

Heard during the MSU v Purdue game....”oddly enough OSU has beaten both these teams”...national media Dickey V baby! Don ‘t think we are legit... Wesson getting in foul trouble (we all knew he would)  against Purdue and not collapsing but finding a way to win is all I needed to see..This team is a legit sweet 16 team. 

If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

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bucksfan92's picture

I heard that and laughed at it too.  So all of a sudden it's "odd" that the team alone in first place has beaten both teams tied for 2nd?  Hmm that statement sounds odd to me. :)

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NorthPoleBuckeye's picture

Oklahoma has lost like 6 out of their last 8 games, how are they even ranked?

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stxbuck's picture

B/c they lost 2x before the next rankings come out.

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D Mac 24's picture

This is just hypothetical and nowhere close to what it would be or should be if it really started today. Lots of b ball left anyway! Bucks can realistically fight for a 2/3 seed if they have a big finish!!

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elitesmithie's picture

No complaints from outside of Choklahoma being a 4 seed. With that being said there are a lot of slightly good teams this year that probably fall in the 10-30 range.

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

Way too soon. Fun to talk and think about but let's take one game at a time.

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BuckeyeGoneNuts's picture

That's the beauty of college hoops... Rankings and ratings don't mean a damned thing.  As long as you get to the tournament, you can prove just how good you are (or aren't) on the court.  Doesn't matter what someone g or some computer) thinks of you.

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Buckeyedoc99200's picture

I just have no complaints about anything related to OSU basketball this year. Its all gravy after losing to Rutgers and having the NIT pass on us last year.

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CTownBucknut's picture

On one hand, I understand the ranking, considering their overall body of work.  On the other hand, I would have hoped the committee would factor in OSU's situation earlier in the year, new coach and system, short handed and breaking in several new players, etc., and conclude that OSU is a vastly different team than they were earlier in the year.  At the end of the day, I think the committee may still not buy into OSU, and perhaps feels they are a bit of a fluke.  That's ok, OSU seems to relish being the underdog who doesn't get respect.  

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Buckeye_Since_1997's picture

I feel like they drew this up a few days ago and didn’t bother to change it after this weekend. Don’t know why they do it anyway, all of the anticipation and debate is what makes March Madness fun after all.

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gr8bucks's picture

Now you know another reason the big moved the tourney up a week, if the finals aren't going to change the seeding, why be the game playing into the selection and then have to play Thur/ Fri., out of your region?

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

Disagree here...I think they are the ideal No. 5 seed...

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osu992's picture

So they get dumped by a 12 seed like every other 5 in history? This isn't a patsy team for a sucker's seed.

New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

Maybe...but I also don't think they're a 4-seed either, UNLESS< the bench finishes strong. In the NCAA tournament, bench scoring is everything, especially if the starters get into foul trouble.

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