I am optimistic that these young men will step up and do very well. They have tons of talent and Coach Coombs will school them up properly.
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I think we're going to be fine. Arnette will emerge as a shutdown corner with another year of experience, Okudah already looks the part, and Sheffield showed he has all the tools, just looked to me like mistakes based on inexperience. I think those three at the top of the depth chart will provide solid play, with opportunities for the new guys to work in situationally.
I agree with this 100%. Arnette’s 2017 season is very comparable to Ward’s 2016 season in my opinion. That’s why I expect him to take a similar leap forward and become a top rated, shut down corner.
Damn we are absolutely LOADED in the secondary. I selfishly want Wade, and Okudah starting tho
Agree 100%, not sold on DA as a shutdown corner, but I do like Sheffield's progress, didn't get to see enough of Wade.
To my untrained eyes, Sheffield did look better towards the end of the season and in the Cotton Bowl. He just needs to keep improving.
I thought he was the best corner on the field in the Cotton bowl.
Sheffield picked up his game big time from the start of the season....think he will be the best corner on the team next season.
He is an elite athlete for sure....not worried about the secondary more concerned with who will be starting at left tackle
not sold on DA as a shutdown corner
I'm with you. Coombs spoke of him like he would have a season trajectory like Gareon Conley had, but that hasn't happened...yet. I believe he's on track to be more capable than he has been, but lockdown? I'm not there.
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wade was slowed due to injury last year; but, i agree with you - both of these guys look like the real deal.
Hmmm, a young and/or inexperienced group of cornerbacks??
I predict two first-rounders in 2019.
Such a pessimist.
I watched Wade play a couple games in High School and while I understand it was High School he absolutely shut down his whole side of the field and the one time they threw his way he made a spectacular interception, I think once he is healthy he is going to be a shutdown corner
Right here...also believe a healthy Shaun Wade will be a very good thing.
I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...
a 'student of the game' can learn and apply mentally... what most take many reps to try and do physically and with 'experience'.
How many 'students of the game' among our 8 CB candidates?
Agreed. I was watching Spring game, I think Wade made the biggest impact. I think he's the best CB on our roster.
Arnette, Sheffield, Okudah, & Wade - seems like we should be able to cover and have fresh legs
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The defensive backfield will be fine next year. Great tradition with that position group.
This makes the Grinch hire even better. He has significant experience coaching the secondary
uh, don't you think Kerry coombs has been doing just fine? with the talent he's sending to the NFL, I'd say he's the best corner coach in the country.
With all this CB talent, I wouldn't be surprised to see someone slide over to Safety. Riep or Okudah could fit the bill I'd say. Wade will be on the field somewhere. He's way too talented not to play right away.
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I wonder what Sheffield would look like at Safety? An athletic physical thumper with range? His coverage skills are good but not great. Okudah and Wade I believe will be ridiculous in the next few years. Arnette will be solid. I’d vote to move Sheffield over. But Pryor apparently has impressed the staff.
Pryor was the one guy that wasn't talked about enough in last years recruiting haul.. If you just watch his highlights, he's an absolute freak of nature.. It's amazing how loaded that DB class was.
I started a thread in the forum about next year's secondary and I predicted that he would start at safety.....if I was an NFL scout I would draft him and move him there, think that's where his highest ceiling would be
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I'm excited about this group of guys. Okudah will be solid after this last season, and I think Wade is going to make some waves.
Who will step up and take that other safety position next to Fuller? Pryor?
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So much talent and good coaching in that area that is hard to imagine they slip back too much. Particularly with the defensive front putting pressure on opposing QBs. The defense should be good. I just hope the LBs improve with covering some in the middle of the field. They vanished at times last year.
Absolutely right. The LBs were often the weak link in an otherwise incredible defense. Sadly, a few teams were equipped/coached well enough to exploit that specific weakness.
linebacker is my BIG concern as well. too many times last year they were out of position. also, pass coverage was terrible.
Piling on here but I have the same concerns. Not worried about the DBs.
I thought Sheffield broke out against USC he looked good.
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Totally agree with you. His coverage got cleaner and cleaner as the year progressed. Also really liked Okudah's effort in the Cotton Bowl too. Some mistakes, but his talent is significant.
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Thought the same thing, GlassCity. He had a great game.
I think Sheffield puts it all together this season, after having another year to learn the system. He'll be a first rounder in the 2019 draft.
The dbs next year (Fuller / Pryor at Safety, Arnette/Sheffield/Okudah/Wade at CB) are crazy talented. Cannot wait to see if the play lives up to the hype. Solid depth all around as well. I am confused with all the depth at CB why is Johnson being moved from safety?
Also, all the talk about moving a CB to safety to get them on the field - Pryor played exceptionally well in limited time at Safety and was a monster on ST, plus the staff has heaped effusive praise on him. Even if a CB is moved, it would seem to be a depth move only. Wouldnt it make more sense for Johnson to just stay at the position where he was the #1 recruit? Plus, Proctor is a beast in his own right who could earn some ST reps and mop up playing time.
Excited to see these young guys show up and show out next year. DBU for sure.
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Been a long wait can't wait to see everyone on the field next year.....
I was stoked that Wade kept his commitment... hope he bulks up and balls out!
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The potential for next year's secondary is crazy high. The could be so much better than this year's DB group and have a ton of talent returning for 2019. The Silver Bullets could be very special.
Always a bit of uncertainty about new blood coming in, but we’ve seen enough to be optimistic about our reload in 2018. Sure there will be a few growing pains early, but that’s why we play early warmup games. There’s just lots to be excited about for he Buckeyes.
There's not reason to believe that Coombs won't have this unit playing at a high level - he does it time and time again. The talent (incoming recruiting ratings) he has in the room right now is probably the best it's ever been. I mean, there's minimum two 5*s and I think Sheffield was once a 5* when he originally went to Alabama. I mean, we've never had that here at one time in this position. So it's fair to expect this unit to remain strong, and produce.
It's also fair to ask if this is the year, where we get bitten from 3 straight seasons of early entries to the NFL at this position. I'm looking forward to it. I'm rooting for Shaun Wade, personally.
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Sheffield came on late in the year, I like him as a solid starter. Give me Okudah on the other side, Arnette in the slot, and Fuller/Pryor at safety, and work in Wade with Okudah and I'll be satisfied.
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The potential in the defensive backfield may be as good as it has ever been at OSU. They have a lot to do to live up to it, but the talent if off the charts.
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What's new? This seems to be a pattern that has permanently formed...because #DBU!
with Ward on the other side, Arnette and Sheffield got plenty of balls thrown their way
The Dispatch had a piece this past Sunday with 2018 projections written by Tim May and Bill Rabinowitz, I believe. Nowhere in the DB discussion did they mention Shaun Wade. It dumbfounds me how two Ohio State football beat writers can spend as much time around the program as they do yet fail to mention a talent like Wade when discussing next season's projected starters and major contributors. After reading it, I was wondering if Wade had decided to move on, a la Trevon Grimes. I'm happy to hear his name mentioned here today.
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Nice article and to your point, we had five big-time lockdown corners in the Urban era - Roby, Apple, Lattimore, Conley and most recently Ward. Each had a similar path:
Year One: Redshirt or play very little
Year Two: Play a lot and take some lumps (Lattimore excepted because he was injured)
Year Three: Lock-down (Roby wasn't quite a lockdown until year 4. The others all went pro and were first rounders.)
None of the guys seem to be at the perfect spot in their career arc to be "the guy" this year but Arnette, Sheffield and Okudah all looked more than capable to be high-caliber #2 guys or better so there is a lot of depth there, not even including Wade and some of the other guys that are working for a chance to show what they can do.
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I'm not worried. For one, Coombs has been reloading this unit just fine every season since he arrived. What's more, it's a little misleading. Yes, Sheffield has been here less than a year, but he played (for better or worse) at CB in just about every game we had. It's almost like we have two returning starters from last year. By season's end, Arnette was playing well and Sheffield, well, Sheffield was no longer playing poorly. And, Okudah saw a lot of snaps.
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Excited to see if Wade can get significant time on the field. Guess I watched a different Cotton Bowl because I thought Okudah was picked on and got toasted. He has a way to go but he will get there. Arnette and Sheffield improved a lot over the course of the season, but need to keep making progress. Pryor starts at safety. Maybe the Spring game will tell us more about some of the others.
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Probably more of a 2019 scenario, but I'm putting money on Amir Riep. I believe when he hits the field for significant snaps, we'll be pleasantly surprised.
As far as the safety position is concerned, it appears that Wayne Davis and Jahsen Wint could be slipping down the hill, and we still aren't sure what will become of Brendan White (is he a SAF or WR?). This could stymie his development, a la EGW.
IMO, DB is an area of little concern. The talent is there and our DBs are coached by one of the best coaches in the country. Interested to see what Johnson and Wade can do. Okudah looks like the next Lattimore.
I think at the moment the only concern is losing Coombs and the impact that has. The talent is there. Whomever takes over just has to stick to the skills to play OSU defense and use the talent that is there and be alright. But that guy is hard to replace.
Brought in top tier guys and coached them to be good at any level.