Ohio State vs. USC -- Tradition Rich Programs Squaring Off Once Again

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RK84's picture

I actually love this game and think it will draw more viewers than the playoffs. Great game, location, and teams.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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avail31678's picture

I think it will draw a lot of viewers also.  Great teams and tradition as OP said, but mostly I love that these were the two teams with conference championships and 2 losses that were "snubbed" (more so OSU) by the committee.  Both teams will be looking to prove they belonged.  So there's history adding to this game's intrigue, along with current season motivations. 

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Bucksfan's picture

The 2009 loss exemplifies everything we hated about Ohio State's performances in big games during that era, complete with Jim Bollman playcalling, and an ultra-conservative philsophy that led to bullshit like punting with the ball on 4th and short on USC's 37 yard line with Terrelle Pryor as the QB.  Tressel missed an opportunity to challenge one of USC's early touchdowns, but didn't (something he was notoriously bad at doing).  It was a game they had to try to lose, and did.

It's the 1 loss after which I questioned whether Ohio State should retain Tressel.  Of course, they go on to beat Oregon in the Rose Bowl and all was forgiven.  But I still haven't gotten over the 2009 game, never will.  And we still haven't beaten USC since 1974.

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avail31678's picture

Still don't know why Tressel kicked a field goal on 4th and goal at the 1.  Go for the throat (what do you have to lose against a team that whooped you 31-1 the prior year?), and if you miss you force a true freshman QB to drive the whole field in front of 105,000.  Our defense was playing very well most of the game, too, and likely would have held them.

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

I said the same thing Saturday when we kicked the field goal to take the 6 point lead.  A TD seals the game, a Field goal forces them to go for it on 4th down if they get close which I felt like was dangerous as I liked our chances in OT.  If we don't make it, they are pinned back at the 4 and we've been shutting down their ground game.  

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Bucksfan's picture

Not sure which FG you're referring to.  If it was when they were up 12-10, you kick it.  I don't fault anyone for taking points when they're available.  You don't know how the game is going to play out.  But march down the length of the field and score in front of 105,000 is exactly what Matt Barkley did to win the game.  And it seemingly wasn't that hard.

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OSUBias's picture

Wasn’t it hilarious that his next gig was as the Colts replay challenge guy? Literally the thing he was possibly the worst at during his OSU career. 

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Hovenaut's picture

I deserve a win over USC in my adulthood.

HOW IN THE HELL IS TRUE FRESHMAN MATT BARKLEY DISSECTING OHIO STATE'S DEFENSE?

That's all I remember saying that night.

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JTFor President2016's picture

The beautiful and never failing Prevent Defense. 

Elliott dots the eye, on this national championship win. 

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

Also not mentioned is that this game will decide who the Imperial champion of CFB is (look on reddit.com/r/cfb for the Imperialism Map threads).  That's more important than the playoffs anyway.  2 of the 4 participants don't even have land.

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kmp10's picture

I agree, USC is one of the very few programs in college football as tradition-laden and storied as Ohio State. Having watched a few of their games this season, it feels like Ohio State will have it's way along both sides of the LOS. Weber/Dobbins and the o-line should be able to grind meat all day, allowing Barrett and the receivers to do what they do best... pick their spots here and there. In addition, the d-line should be able to apply lots of pressure on Darnold, forcing bad throws. I expect some pilfers by the DBs. 

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

I remember the complete beat down Ohio State took in 2008 and was hoping to get the win in 2009.  I still shake my head at that loss.  It's time in 2017 to get a win over USC on a true neutral site.  I have huge confidence in Ohio State winning this game and love the match up against a blue blood program like USC.  

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Buck68's picture

USC is probably the sine qua non example of how we will keep enduring any amount of pain... but not reach 'enough' to finally deal with the enduring problem.

Simply, we see the 'nature of the game' ...differently.  As for us, In terms of 'success', we have been great as the underdog, underachieving as a great team.

On paper, it's a great match-up this year featuring excellent and deep talent.  Arguably the two greatest CFB traditions in the last 60 years....

IMO a decided QB net advantage for USC... unless.

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straha's picture

My only real gripe with not making it into the playoffs is the team that made it in above us.  I do not honestly think they have a better case and resume than we do, or Wisconsin, or USC.  I would have been disappointed if USC would have gotten in above us, but would have understood and accepted that fact without issue.

That said, I am totally hyped about playing USC.  This was the dream matchup for me assuming we didn't make the playoffs.  The insufferable USC fans back in 08 and 09 still is a bad taste in my mouth...time to wash it out!

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BuckeyeBoiler's picture

I agree.  The one thing that has me bummed is that this couldn't have happened last year or this year, as that would have meant OSU-USC in the ROSE BOWL instead of the Cotton.  Big Ten vs. Pac 10 (yeah, yeah, I know Pac-12 or whatever it is) in the Rose Bowl are great childhood memories.

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Seattle Linga's picture

Somehow - someway the bowls have lost a lot of their luster for me. I honestly don't watch much unless it's a team I like or want to lose. 

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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MiamiBuckeye's picture

We should also schedule a home-and-home with them for some time in the 2020s. Win-win the way I see it--either we draw a strong USC program which could be a resume booster the years we play them, or they regress once more to their 2013-15 era form and we get a few easy P5 victories that help us even the all-time record out a bit more.

"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."

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JTFor President2016's picture

Could see it. Already have home-and-homes with Oregon, Texas, Notre Dame, and Washingon lined up. Seems OSU is going with the "Better wins" strategy again. Worked last year. Texas and Notre Dame are in the same years as well. What a schedule that could be. 

Elliott dots the eye, on this national championship win. 

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lamplighter's picture

Just win. I hate that song (almost as much as the one from up north) and that damn horse

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Ohio State vs. USC will do a much higher rating than any of the playoff games, including the title game.

it's a solid matchup, and a W ends the season on a really positive note.

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Citrus's picture

A game against a good conference winning USC team with the same record in front of a bunch of Texas recruits? I'll take it.

I also think Ohio State may make this thing ugly. I also agree it will be the highest rated game. Only thing that saves the CFP ratings this year is that they're not playing those games on New Year's Eve.

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RK84's picture

You should agree with me, Im right most of the time/

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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scooby22's picture

For you youngsters... before there was Tim Biakabatuka, there was a Charles White.  Dude ran roughshod over the Bucks in the 1980 Rose Bowl.  God how I hated him, then he went to the Browns at one point and I actually ended up cheering for him.  He was quite a RB ... wasted talent though ...

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buckzilla1's picture

From someone who hates the University of Southern Cheaters, I am glad we finally get thes MFers in a bowl game not on thier home field with thier paid refs. I hope that we kick the ever loving dog shit out of these hair flippin, sandle wearing, water surfing, gluten free eating, over inflated sense of self worth having bags of monkey shit. Holy shit!, lets go kick some Cheatin Pac 12 ass.

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scooby22's picture

buckzilla1 be like ...

" ... poor man wanna be rich, rich man wanna be king, and a king ain't satisfied 'til he rules everything ..." - The Boss

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Guts's picture

Ohio State lookin at USC like...

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

  Ohio State is currently a touchdown favorite over USC according to my site. The problem is, unless it is the playoffs you never know how motivated a team is going to be come bowl season. I like what I'm hearing from the coaching staff and the players after being left out of the playoffs, I think they will be motivated and ready to play come end of the month. As I've said, making the playoffs is the goal every single year at Ohio State, but playing USC in a NY6 bowl is not far behind. Go Bucks! Beat USC!

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OSUNut's picture

For you youngsters 08 and 09 meant nothing.  1975 Rose Bowl winner was set to be national champion.  They beat us in the last minute by one point, 18 to 27.  Again in 1980 Rose Bowl, the winner was set to be National Champion.  Again they scored with around one minute left and won 17 to 16.   We owe them big on the big stage.  In a normal year these teams would meet in the Rose Bowl as champions of their respective conference.  We need to get this one.

OSUNut

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OSUNut's picture

Sorry.  That first score should read 18 to 17.  And yes, they went for 2 for the win not the tie and got it.

OSUNut

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BuckIDave's picture

Still remember watching the 1969 Rose Bowl, as the Buckeyes won the 1968 national championship with a 27-16 win over USC after the Trojans took a 10-0 lead with OJ Simpson running about 80 yards for a TD. First time I had ever watched the Buckeyes (only 12 years old at the time). Also beat Michigan that year 50-14.

If we come out motivated and can keep from turning the ball over, I like our chances against the Trojans.

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Woodylives®'s picture

It's hard to believe that, with USC being the bowl rival that we've played against the most, that it's been since 1974 that we've beaten those guys!!!  It's going to be nice to play them on a neutral field, and with so many alumni from both schools living in and near the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex, there should be a very large amount of fans from both teams in JerryWorld!!!  Let's just hope that OSU is motivated for this tough challenge!!!   GO BUCKS!!!  BEAT USC!!!

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