I certainly hope we keep Brenton Cox. He has been a key recruit in this class, and I have faith in LJ.
I understand they're busy, but is it legal to have Bosa or Simon or Hankins call a recruit? I'd think the guy getting a quick call from Joey Bosa, just saying he sure would like to see Cox with a helmet full of buckeye stickers would help!
Not exactly the same thing, but I seem to remember Urban getting in trouble with some recruit because Tebow called him while he was having a lunch with the recruit and Urban gave the phone to the kid so Tebow could say hello.
I'd be more worried about losing Cox if he had already taken his official. I'm betting LJ closes the deal next weekend.
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We need to hold onto Cox. Best player at a position of serious need. He is a difference maker. Plus with Parsons out of the picture, and Smith and Oweh both far from a given, we need DEs badly.
You gotta think he noticed Chase Young playing meaningful snaps last night. Sky's the limit for Cox if he comes here.
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Didn't Urban get the exact same benefit last year by not playing in the B10 title game and still getting in playoffs? That's an interesting take
I don't think Meyer or any of us considered not playing in the B1G CCG last year a "benefit."
It's absolutely a "benefit" to recruiting, not having to prepare and getting to recruit all weekend, which is what he did last year, but said it's not fair this year? Lol. Early signing period aside, I'm sure he was happy with the recruiting advantage last year.
First off, there was no early signing period last year, and second, even if it did benefit them last year, that doesn't mean Meyer should be in favor of it. I fail to understand what one thing has to do with another? Obviously if Meyer was able to use it to his advantage last year, he was going to do so. That doesn't suddenly mean he should feel it's fair.
How do you figure? There wasn't an early signing period last year?
Coach Meyer made that comment in regard to the early signing period that starts this year, not recruiting overall.
The reference is more about the early signing period. With only 3 weeks to go, I'm sure it's a major concern for coaches who had games this weekend. Regardless, I'm sure recruiting work is still getting done.
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I thought I'd heard the real threat with Cox is Georgia, not Alabama. I'm really concerned about Georgia winning their CCG and getting into the CFP, and Ohio State not getting into the CFP and the impact that may have on him.
I doubt it has any effect on Cox. When Cox is at his school of choice in 2018, anything that happened in 2017 is irrelevant. And Cox is an early signee and enrollee. His mind will be made up before Georgia or Ohio State even play their bowl game.
I find it hard to fathom that Cox would make his decision based on who made the playoffs. I'm sure he's well aware that OSU made the playoffs 2/4 years(one in which they won it all), and were very close to making it all 4 years. I'm sure he realizes that OSU very easily could have, and maybe should have gotten in, and that every year, they will be right up there. In other words, if he does ultimately flip, my guess is he had other reasons, such as proximity to home, rather than basing a decision on which team ranked 3rd or 4th, rather than 5th, when the 5th ranked team won their conference and conference championship, and beat all their main rivals.
Abdul-Malik McClain has to be my neighbor. His high school is really close to me.
Start going door to door until you find him!
also, what's this about you hearing Cox was in the car with Saban when he found out Bama was in the CFP? Is that legit?
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Birm tweeted it, but I don't believe he confirmed that it was Cox specifically.
Saban mentioned he was with a recruit on his official when he got the news driving in. Cox is on his official. Put two and two together.
Soo......Cox jumped out of Little Nickeys Prius and knew Bamer was the place for him.
I'd buy stock in that theory.
Not being a dik. just funny thinking of Satans choice of rides.
I see where 4 guys were on Officials there this weekend and some others as unofficial. The story is paywalled on 247 so I can't see all the names, but not a slam dunk it was Cox I guess. I still think LJ gets him to OSU.
We still got an official coming up
Cox is cut above IMO - I really hope he sticks to his word
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
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as the two biggest threats to flip Cox from his pledge are playing for a national championship while Ohio State will play in an overall meaningless bowl game.
Not recruiting related, but can we all stop peddling the idea that these New Year's Six games are meaningless? Not only are they significant traditionally, but it is another opportunity for Ohio State to prove they can beat top-level competition when there was serious doubt about that prior to Penn State.
Agreed. It's the 4th most important game behind the two semi's and the championship game. Also, the matchup between the two snubbed conference champions. We win that and we finish the season at least in the top 4.
for Ohio State to prove they can beat top-level competition when there was serious doubt about that prior to Penn State.
"Was serious doubt"? We escaped with a win over PSU - at home. UM and UW were nice wins, but OSU has been so far out in front of either in recruiting that they, like most others on the schedule, were in tough spots to begin with. But teams of equal talent - Clemson (smoked us) and Oklahoma (handled us) - where coaching makes the difference, we showed nothing of the sort in terms of the ability to beat top-level competition.
Something is lacking in the is program the past three seasons, and with Georgia, Miami and PSU showing signs of resurgence, and in areas we recruit, and potentially Texas also, it better get fixed fast. Some programs have to lose something as others rise, and a 31-0 CFP blowout loss, followed by missing the playoff, is not the trend to be on right now, which follows a prior blown opportunity to be in the playoff. I'm really hoping this '18 class holds together, but there are some serious concerns about losses from it to teams mentioned above, and to those in the CFP this year.
Coincidentally, who was the QB in those 3 years?
Kidding aside, I am looking forward to life AB (after Barrett). He was a great student-athlete and represented the university and the team very well, but we were so limited with him.
I still believe Beck was such a bad coach that it ruined Barrett's career. Unfortunate, but I think Ryan Day somewhat salvaged his throwing motion and reads. I am very excited to see what Haskins can do with this receiving core returning pretty much everyone, a year of Dobbins development, and an OL that I am not worried about now. I think Prince is the most improved player this offseason, Jordan will be the RT or even LT, with Prince manning the other side. Knox, Bowen and Burrell all looked good enough at different times. If they can figure out the center spot (Know, Burrell or Bowen?) then the OL will be just fine.
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And I would think that the guy with the inside track at the center position would be Brady Taylor.
Because I couldn't go for 3.
One would think, but I think we found something these last few years with transitioning a guard to C. G is a great way for them to get experience while not being in charge of the protections. Personally I would rather us convert a G every time a C leaves. Hopefully whomever it is continues our tradition of excellent C's and give us a good year.
These bowls do mean less and less each year.
Ohio, the greatest state in the Union!
Absolutely. Many NFL hopefuls skip it entirely or go half speed. The last thing they want to do is blow a multi-million dollar payday on an exhibition game.
Speaking of which....why the hell is a New Years 6 bowl on Friday, December 29??!??!??
Better than the great idea of games on New Year's Eve.
The New Year's six and the other bowls that aren't play off games are fun to watch but they are just glorified exhibition games. If they truely meant something you wouldn't see guys sitting those bowl games out. Don't be surprised if you see quite a few guys that are projected to go early in the draft skip those bowl games this year.
Not at THEOSU!
A grand total if 2 guys skipped thier bowls and no onr has skipped a ny6 bowl.
True but last year was the first time that players actually got backed by the majority of the media when they did skip their bowl game. I think it will be considered more acceptable this year and in the future if players do choose to do so. I don't think any Buckeyes will elect to skip the bowl game but I wouldn't blame them if they did. It's possible that some of USC's players skip.
Bucks15... agree: we are way too good & willing to tell others what something means...
while being rather short on explaining our opinions.
Instead of tellling, perhaps we should be asking - asking recruits & players to find out what motivates/interests them; and, asking our coaches to find out what they value and how they think a fan can contribute... or get out of the way.
Cox can come in and immediately be on the Rushman squad. That has to be hard to turn down.
Cox will see the field a lot as a freshman, much like Chase Young has this year. Young was out there playing in the 4th quarter against Wisconsin in crunch time.
Andrew- Should things not work out as planned, are there any in-state/local guys who could potentially see an offer?
I hate Alabama with a passion. I always have since the early 90's because it is a program that is probably the dirtiest in all of college football. Anyways, I badly want OSU to beat them for the 247 recruiting crown this year and losing a 5* like Cox would sting.
How is Bama the dirtiest CFB program?
You really think Saban has to cheat??
Albert Means - they tried to buy this player for around $200k back in the early 90's and Fulmer begged DuBose to stop cheating but DuBose wouldn't answer his calls so Fulmer turned them in.
Antonio Langham - think he got paid, forgot how much.
There is so much shady stuff that the Auburn fans have meticulously documented - That store that gave away suits to players, that auto shop that gave away chrome rims, pictures of players flashing cash, that player who was caught receiving money from a coach and it was later classified as a loan, the players parking lot pictured with new Camaros and Escalades, etc.
I'm not saying OSU is pure as snow. No program is. But Alabama and the SEC programs take cheating to an institutionalized, higher level beyond $100 handshakes from boosters.
...while Ohio State will play in an overall meaningless bowl game.
Wow, I could not disagree more with this point of view. A decade ago, certainly two decades, there was no such thing as "an overall meaningless bowl game" if you were successful enough to be playing in one of the four majors (now six majors). College football has changed for the better over the years in many ways, but this, 'the only thing that's meaningful is the national title' philosophy is a change for the worse, absolutely. Here's what's meaningful about the upcoming bowl game... it's an opportunity to play in front of the entire country against one of the VERY few programs in college football that's even close to as storied and tradition-laden as Ohio State, and a chance to cap off a very good season with a twelfth win and start to build on what's expected to be another conference and title run in 2018. There's nothing meaningless about it. Nothing at all...
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I believe it’s meaningless for any of next years 1st - 4th round NFL draft selections. (Butt - Michigan, Smith - ND). No need to mess with future earnings for a glorified scrimmage.
Thank you for recognizing the Cotton Bowl is meaningless. The "most important" bowl game outside the playoffs does carry less weight than it should. I hope we beat USC anyway.
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I hope Brenton noticed who was rushing Hornibrook last night with the game on the line. It wasn’t a senior heading to the NFL, it was a true freshman
If I'm Cox, I'd want to know how it was possible to give up 55 to Iowa with this much talent on defense and what they'll do next year to fix the problem.
My response would start with having him on the roster.
That’s just an ignorant comment.
Cox needs to wait till after Round 1 of the playoffs are over and Alabama and Georgia both get smoked.
And if both Georgia and Bama win?
Then it's an all SEC national title game, which, I'm desperately hoping for. The ratings and revenue would tank so far that that ridiculous committee would never again dare to put in two teams from the SEC.
Saban on a cart eating cold pizza
That committee is not concerned with ratings. Not for a second. Their job is to get the 4 best.
Your näivete is.... charming.
"Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect." -- Woody Hayes
You living in reality is in question.
We've been too inconsistent all year. If we made the playoffs and faced Bama or Clemson we would have had a slim chance to advance. "Just good enough to beat Wisconsin by 6 points" doesn't really make a case.
We DO have a chance to beat a USC team that I despise on a neutral field and end up in the top 4. Given our lack of consistency, that's not a bad finish.
As far as the recruits go, next year will be essentially a brand new team. There will be plenty of opportunities for underclassmen and recruits to shine.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
I actually think osu could beat uga and bama.
i don't think so on Clemson and ou though.
Agreed. I mean I think they COULD but it would require some lucky things going our way
Ok, listen up, everyone. I'm calling it right here and right now that wherever Tyreke Johnson lands, he is going to be a beast! Get this young man's name on your tongue bc he is one to watch out for.
I can hear saban pitch now...”yes Brenton, just think what you can do against The Citadel next season and heck..we may drop out of the SEC and just move to the Southern Conference so we get to play Mercer every year. And possibly Tennessee.
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
I think I'm ready to say it, Alabama has surpassed Michigan as my most hated team. I respect them, but also despise them. If it's not bad enough they lost to Auburn when we needed them to win, then we beat Wisconsin, which ultimately allowed Alabama to get in, they also get to try and flip our prospects, using the advantage of sitting at home, while we were busy winning a conference championship. I hope Clemson absolutely destroys them!
Hold on. We had that same advantage last year.
Is it a double standard?
Hey Andrew, this may not be the best place to ask but is there any recruiting advantage to us playing in Texas as opposed to Fiesta Bowl where we have played numerous times or some other Bowl Game in less recruiting rich areas? Since we aren't in the playoff, do the recruits care about the bowl game/matchup? Do the coaches have any benefits they can take advantage of playing in Texas i.e. being in close proximity to someone they may be targeting? This year may not be the best example because of the early signing period and I believe Anthony Cook will be out of the picture by then but I am wondering if Gene Smith lobbied behind the scenes on which bowl we got to help on the recruiting front or if there is no correlation at all to the bowl game and recruiting (at least once out of the playoffs). I would think playing in the Fiesta Bowl again would have been a negative and the Cotton Bowl may be a positive especially with us trying to maintain our footprint in Texas with Tom Herman starting to lock down the lonestar state again. Just curious if you have spoken to recruits in the past about this and/or any of the coaches. Thanks for all you do. GO BUCKS! BEAT USC!
Interesting Sport Illustrated piece on OSU recruiting. Great love and respect shown for Mr. Vincent.