Big Ten Apologizes for Ejecting Denzel Ward

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Earthoid.'s picture

Only 1,233,799 mistakes left to admit! Coincidentally 1 is now the Big Ten record.

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MaxMermelstein's picture

Replay official should be fired. Simple as that.  I don't have a problem with the field official throwing the flag. It's a bang bang play and refs should err on the side of player safety.

But how in the world that call gets upheld after a review is beyond me. It wasn't even close.  Fire the official, set a precedent, and then we won't have to deal with stuff like this in the future.  

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denniscolumbus's picture

I was thinking that they should not pay that official for the game, but being fired might work.

Class of 2001 - classless since then.

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

I agree. Ward didn't get paid for the game so neither should the replay official.

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

I was wondering if they would discipline the official who made the call in the booth. The officials on the field didn't throw a flag...it was purely a booth official making that call.

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Earthoid.'s picture

Actually the comical part is that you are mixing up the two calls. Wards got a flag on the field while Arnette's did not. When I say comical, I mean unspeakably stupid.

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

The announcers made no mention of a flag being thrown on the field. They said the refs were getting together to discuss if the pass was complete. And you don't need to be such a jerk when replying to a comment.

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Earthoid.'s picture

I see the way you read my comment, but I was referring to the refs' stupidity not the commenter I was replying to, but I can see how you can read it that way.  As far as the flag, you can see it thrown in the replay.  It's kind of difficult because they throw almost as Ward is hitting the receiver, as if the ref was anticipating it and had already made the decision before the actual hit.  Check it out.

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Thanks for clearing that up with your reply. Didn't see the flag while watching. 

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NutBuckz's picture

fired kinda extreme, if they really want to apologize that ref should be suspended for one game without pay.

that would fit the offense.

It's 2019 and TTUN still sucks!!!

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drank1933's picture

Instantly reminded me of this play:

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MeatBichigan's picture

For a second I was like, when did the Buckeyes play the Steelers? Did we win??

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Ohio Guy in Jersey's picture

What would happen if that play came in the second half? Would they also reverse the suspension Ward would get for the first half of the following game? Something tells me no, which makes this a hollow apology.

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Barnsey69's picture

That's a great question...

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buckslan's picture

More than likely they would. They did it last year for a Florida receiver that got ejected for a "sucker punch" on a Tennessee defender that never happened.

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bucksfan92's picture

Yes they would. And it's good that Urban credited Ward with the fumble, and he should credit him with the TD as well since there was no way he was going to be caught.

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RunningFree's picture

The fact that it happened in the first half probably made it that much easier for them to apologize.  If it happened in the second half there would have been a lot less chance they would have admitted to a mistake.

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Daniel's picture

Maybe they will let Arnette play the whole game vs the Corndogs to make up from ejecting Ward by mistake. 

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youra6's picture

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Just kidding, it totally would. 

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Homey1970's picture

That’s what my mom always said about my conception.

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NutBuckz's picture

yep plus the ref didnt get suspended, total garbage apology

It's 2019 and TTUN still sucks!!!

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

Wow, too bad admitting a mistake can't take away his punishment.

What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!

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Desymond's picture

At least it didn't impact the game. And hopefully this means those refs received further training in this area so it doesn't happen again.

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ScarletAndGrayMatter's picture

Exactly. Screw acknowledging the mistake. How about Jim Delaney and Bill Carollo pick up the phone and call Denzel Ward to apologize for him getting ejected from the game for doing absolutely nothing wrong! Acknowledgement is hollow, and does NOTHING to make up for an absolute HORRIBLE call.

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SaltyD0gg's picture

How about the pick up the phone and fire somebody. Anyone who watched the play could have told you it was not targeting. Until there are ramifications for egregious errors they will continue to happen.

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Chic'sGhost's picture

Well, humans are still going to be human. And, the refs are under tremendous pressure to use targeting ejection
s. Each week they go over lots of film. One of the refs thought he picked up one of the elements of targeting. So, he was wrong. I don't think it was egregiois as others.
BT and NCAA will use this incident as a teaching moment and it will be reviewed hundreds of times this week.
Reffing is 100 times more difficult than you can imagine.

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Buckeytrips's picture

I agree about the refs, but this is instant replay that watches this in slow motion. Absolutely no excuse for getting this wrong. My 8yr old son new it wasn't targeting when they replayed it in slow motion. 

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SaltyD0gg's picture

This is my point. I don't really care if the refs get it wrong. Replay has no excuse for getting it wrong, IMO.

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

Reffing is 100 times more difficult than you can imagine.

I agree with you, Chic.

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Max Power's picture

Ward's punishment from the game is vindicated in a way. that highlight of Ward dishing out the real punishment will live on forever not just in Buckeye Lore, but in college football.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Where it's more like to pay out is in Ward's wallet--who wants the next cover corner from an NFL DB draft factory who's not afraid to hit?

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

Ward should be awarded three helmet stickers for that hit.  One for the great hit, and two more for the mistake made that could have awarded more stickers for being able to stay in the game and make more plays.

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Arizona_Buckeye's picture

So the suspension for the first half of the Nebraska game has been lifted?  Of course not, I assume - that would be too logical!  It pisses me off that even with replay, even with the B1G saying it was a mistake - Ward and the team still suffer... complete and utter bullshit!

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BIGTIMEBUCKS's picture

Ward isn't out for the first half. Arnette is out for the first half Saturday because his targeting came in the 2nd half.

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Arizona_Buckeye's picture

DOH - got my two targeting players mixed up, but thanks for the correction!

Apparently people like to down vote those who make a small mistake, or don't like the fact that I was pissed they blew it on the field, and after video review.  Oh well, in the end, it is what it is...

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crwall05's picture

Well, there are also people who think any mistake should result in job loss. (not saying you are one). I mean, I get the replay official screwed up but still wishing that on someone is kind of screwed up lol. I do wish there was a little more visibility around refs performance (i.e. tracking good vs bad calls) but to expect every terrible call to result in a firing is a little insane

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NutBuckz's picture

ref gettign fired is extreme but one game suspension would be perfect

It's 2019 and TTUN still sucks!!!

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Spirit's picture

The police are always watching on here........Arizona_Buckeye

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NorthCarolinaBUCKEYE's picture

He was ejected the first half of the Maryland game so he was going to play the entire Nebraska game anyway.

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TShell's picture

To further clarify what the others said, the player called for targeting is ejected and must sit out the rest of the current half, plus the next half of a game. Since his came in the first half, he never was going to be out against Nebraska. Arnette is out the first half though.

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D-Day0043's picture

Now revoke the suspension.

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Spivan's picture

Arnette is suspended for the first half of the Nebraska game, not Ward.

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LeftCoastBuckeye's picture

and Arnette deserved it.

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NutBuckz's picture

even arnettes was kinda ricky ticky, he barely grazed him. and no i didtn DV you. idk who going nuts with the DVs this year.

It's 2019 and TTUN still sucks!!!

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D-Day0043's picture

My bad. Layed up with a broken ankle. Must be the meds. Lol!

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Daniel's picture

Get better D-Day.

Va Buck

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Spivan's picture

What are they going to do to fix it?

They only have so many games to play in and they wrongfully took one from him.

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Ole Buckeye's picture

I think to make up for it they should suspend Devin Bush (Meatchicken) for the first half of UM's next game.  he targeted Lewerke big time and there was no call.

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Spivan's picture

I believe the replay official should be suspended a game for the call.  It was ultimately his decision.

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NutBuckz's picture

yep, especially cause he took lik e10 seconds to review it. i dont think he even watched the replay.

It's 2019 and TTUN still sucks!!!

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BuckShotGinn's picture

I am somewhat relieved.  Hollow though the apology may be, at least they didn't triple down on the "he just hit him too hard" angle, because if that is the standard going forward, the game 'wussifaction' factor may have crossed the Rubicon level for me.

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TNT's picture

That's what baffled me. I couldn't for the life of me figure out how they came back from the replay with "confirmed".

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OSU725's picture

Right, bad calls happen. What makes zero sense is the confirmation after the review. 

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

Not only did they call it incorrectly, but it was confirmed by video replay. How do you get it wrong twice. 

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IH8UOFM's picture

And how quickly they came back with it

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Commodore's picture

Excellent question. There wasn’t a single angle that came even close to showing helmet to helmet contact. Combine that with how fast they confirmed it makes me wonder if the replay official even reviewed it

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Daniel's picture

Maybe the Review Official was in the bathroom and didn't have time to review it.  Saying "screw it, let's go with the call on the field".  Hey, it could happen.

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TNT's picture

That's why the phrase "the ruling on the field stands" was invented. They went with "confirmed" which carries a whole different definition.

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Ref most have had the pastrami from Togo's. I'm 0 for 2 with that sandwich.

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ShodanBuckeye's picture

Funny you should say this Daniel... this is what exactly happened in the 2007 game vs Illinois... on the long run from scrimmage in the 1st half.. the guy fumbled the ball and we recovered.. the ref on the field didn't see it (big surprise there) but the replay idiot was not in the replay booth(confirmed by radio broadcasters years later), so they just said no fumble. That entire game was full of Ilinois penalties that never got called.. and was the infamous game most referenced when the B1G official later that year got fired for gambling, etc.

I may be a homer, etc., but having been to almost every home game since 2001, it is my opinion that the officials will go out of their way to find a penalty on OSU, when they are blatantly ignoring the same on the other crappy B1G teams... O-line holding is the biggest by far. MSU and PSU do this the entire game, every game; they are experts at it. MSU DBs are also the worst at holding onto receivers; they plan tight man coverage, and use it to stay with the receiver; watch them.. they can turn their head to find the ball because they have the back arm ahold of the receiver... never gets called. This is what the PSU DB did on the final drive, he was beat but he used the back arm to hold down our receivers' arm, and the ref didn't call it.. maybe his view was blocked.

You just get real tired of seeing this after 15 years, as lesser talent equalizes our better talent by cheating; that is the reason why so many people/fans refer to a bias against OSU.

Time and change does surely show...

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Ocbucks's picture

BBQ no invite?? HURT MY FEELINGS.  

Best call!!!!!

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OH-IO MAN's picture

Now only if Gus Johnson could call every game.

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InTressITrust's picture

I hate it I'm 3-3 (Oklahoma, Maryland, Nebraska) with not being able to listen to games called by Gus.  

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bigtenspeed's picture

You only missed 2. Oklahoma was on espn.

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sivaDavis's picture

Now only if Gus Johnson could call every game.

He’ll be calling The Game. 

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NObuck-I-inTEAM's picture

Still makes me smile even though I've watched it about 40 times.  Seriously funny to think he came up with that on the spot.

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Buckeye1996's picture

Replay official....

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niblick's picture

I'd tell them to shove their apology up their ass.  I can understand making that call in a split second decision during live action.  But there is NO WAY IN HELL a "qualified official" should have looked at that reply and not realized that the targeting call was incorrect.  I would want an answer as to how any official that they felt was qualified to be calling a major D1 game could error that badly with the benefit of reply from multiple angles.  "hey, our bad, we screwed up" simply would not cut it for me.

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buckeyepastor's picture

The apology is better than if they'd doubled down on it,  but you're right in that someone should have gottn it right on the field.   I get the sense sometimes that there is a reluctance, an unwillingness to over-rule or overturn, that some personal feelings and bias gets in the way.  

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TNT's picture

Even in real time, you shouldn't call what you didn't see. It's one thing to miss a call. I can understand not seeing something (and therefore not calling it). What's unforgivable is saying you saw something that straight up was not there. What's more unforgivable is having a replay official with all the angles, slo-mo, and time in the world to confirm seeing something that did not happen. Both of those guys should be fired. These guys got paid to make things up, and we can't afford to have them on the field for another game. That call could have easily changed the outcome of a closer game.

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KENTACOHUT's picture

That ref has already made his mind up he looked at the monitor for .3 seconds and said call confirmed 

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Brutus865's picture

How can the replay official make an error in that fashion. That doesn't even make sense. The replay official had a momentary lapse in judgement? That would have been a better response. 

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Earle's picture

The official was concussed by the shockwave generated by Ward's hit. 

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NOLABuckeye's picture

They could make up for it by adjusting the official score to 69-14.

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Lindabeezie's picture

I think you mean 68-14.  No tellin' if Special Teams would have made the PAT on that day.

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terryin20878's picture

Best comment on this entire thread :)

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Cruiser72's picture

This hit by Ward brought us all back to the days when FOOTBALL was football, not the pussification we have today, I loved it when I felt the shockwave here in Galion, Oh....... (Days of Future Passed)

  But since we have all learned of CTE, and what it does to an individual....... I SAY GOD BLESS EM ALL and all they do for my emotions, the ups the downs, and the in-betweens, their is NO skin-color in football....... Woody Hayes to Archie: "I want you to go in their and turn everything red scarlet for them sumbitches in blue"

For me I was BORN SCARLET AND GRAY............ AND I will die SCARLET AND GRAY  DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER, and if anything, I hope this ref has learned what he cost this young man.....he can't get those minutes back, albeit the hit is just a big BOOM FOREVER !

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Daniel's picture

In defense of the official, he has one view and that is it.  As an official in another sport, it can all be about angles and what you can see/not see.  However, the Review Official just plain blew it.  No excuse for that. 

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bucks4nuts's picture

where is the big ten sitting in Chicago buzzing in after the mess up?

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wrathofAJhawk's picture

They came back from the replay booth in like 10 seconds, too...

Unreal how quickly they confirmed his ejection but how it takes 5 minutes to determine if a toe was across the white line or not.

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

"Meyer will credit Ward for the forced fumble, as well. "

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GoBuckeyes1020's picture

Should credit him with a scoop and score too :)

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Rush700's picture

I'd also agree that I was baffled the call was confirmed by video replay and I'd also say I couldn't believe how quickly they came back and stated the call was confirmed by video replay.  It was almost quick enough to make me think they didn't even watch the video.  Either way there is no sense in UFM bashing the refs or getting upset.  There is no way to take back the punishment or give Ward a game back so we may as well move on and keep playing just as hard as he was when he made that play.  Who knows, maybe he'll have two extra games after the Big Ten Championship to make up for lost time!

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original buckeye's picture

Big Ten officials have long been interpreting the targeting penalty as "If it looks vicious, we're throwing the flag and ejecting the player, regardless of the whole head/neck requirements of the rule."  This is exactly what happened here, and it's typical of Big Ten officials' longstanding practice of not understanding the rules of the game.

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Enzo's picture

Except if the player committing the targeting foul is wearing a Michigan uniform. In these cases targeting is never called. Despite the fact that in each instance it was the text book definition of the rule. It happened against Florida and MSU (twice.) The biggest problem with B1G refs is their inconsistency.

Also, why is the replay screen on the sidelines smaller than my mobile phone? These wankers are already visually impaired, why exacerbate the issue with a 4 inch video display?

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FalcotoyourMartel's picture

How about putting up on the Video Board and giving a thumbs up thumbs down Coliseum style.

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TShell's picture

The sideline replay is not where the decision is made. That comes from the replay official (in the booth?). They just started using the sideline screen so that the guy that has to explain it to everyone can actually look at what happened again and describe it better. He doesn't get to make the call, from my understanding.

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bd2999's picture

It is true. If you watch the SEC games than they are out there killing each other and only sometimes do they call things.

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Ole Buckeye's picture

absolutely right, Original recipe!

The person at fault was the MD quarterback, hanging that poor guy out there to dry.

OSU needs to tell the B1G right now, keep your eye on #10 when we play at *ichigan.   I mean, nice to be aggressive but the rules need to be enforced somewhat consistently. 

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fishleehooker's picture

This is why instant replay sucks. It doesnt fix a dam thing and just adds more commercials and breaks to a game that should have better flow.  More breaks for the athletes also = more injuries if they don't stay loose.  The only time I appreciate replay is basically when I have to run to the gas station for more beer. 

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Zimmy07's picture

Maybe they realized that the message they were sending to players was that the only way to tackle in that situation would be to go for the legs.

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NObuck-I-inTEAM's picture

Everything about this call seemed to be wrong.  Why did they blow the play dead on the field?  Let him scoop and score then go back and review the catch, targeting, etc.  Sure it's all good because we whooped their ass the rest of the game, but imagine if we ended up losing the game and this call stood as is.

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buckeye-bengal's picture

So is the replay official getting a suspension?  I feel like if the BIG really wants to make a statement and show they were wrong that replay official should be suspended for a few games.  What do you guys feel would be the BIG really showing the official was wrong? A few games? A year? Firing?

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wrathofAJhawk's picture

Public Tar and Feathering, in my opinion.

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NutBuckz's picture

one game, same what he cost ward, without pay or if they are paid per year a fine, and training before he's allowed to have review abilty or lead a crew again. If I were in charge of B1G refs this would happen.

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Hovenaut's picture

Hindsight is, and in, 2020

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OldTownBuckNut's picture

As others have pointed out "what if" this was a big game?? What if this happened in the National Championship? Lost our best DB, a fumble, and an easy TD. What IF? To me, there should be NO reason to eject a player from a game--even if "targeting"--unless they were fighting or doing something else dirty. They have an "unsportsmanlike conduct" penalty already. Throw the flag, march off the 15 yards, then move on with the damn game. Enough is enough. Because even and especially in the case of the mythical unicorn that is the "targeting" penalty, it's a game speed violation. Slo mo experts can talk about how "egregious" the contact was, but can't explain how a defender is supposed to magically prevent himself mid tackle from accounting for how the offensive player is going to move. Cheap shots are even a 15 yarder. Gimme a break. Just get rid of the damn penalty altogether. 

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MichiBuck12's picture

My thoughts exactly. They have made the penalty far too severe for something that human officials cannot reliably call correctly with any sort of accuracy. This call was an embarrassment. And if this had happened in the PSU game with a tie score? Can you imagine how much worse this would be? I get the rule and the reason behind it. And I do agree that player safety is important. But the penalty is far too severe. Especially when the officials can't be relied on to get it correct.

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OldTownBuckNut's picture

Amen. It’s not like Ward, Bosa, Roby, or any of the others (in recent memory) were being malicious. They were playing hard. And how about a “yellow/red card” system like soccer? At least issue a warning. 

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MichiBuck12's picture

I would support a yellow/red card type system. Something tiered to separate dangerous but incidental plays from the egregiously dirty plays.

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NOLABuckeye's picture

Where is the apology for ejecting Bosa against ND in his final game?

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Desymond's picture
Do people think that was a bad call? He clearly leads with his head. 
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OldTownBuckNut's picture

It's not a question of whether or not "it's a bad call," it's a bad RULE. I remember the hit vividly. Perhaps it's a bit vicious by Big Bear, but so would it be if he grabbed the QB's facemask and pulled him down. Right? Well, the second infraction gets you a facemask penalty, perhaps an unsportsmanlike penalty, 15 yards and an automatic 1st down. NO EJECTION. Make "targeting" a penalty. Fine. But for Pete's sake, don't toss guys for it and suspend them a game. And what about the ball carrier? Is HE allowed to "lead with his head?" That's what makes this such a stupid penalty in the end. Find me a ball carrier that doesn't finish the play with a lowered head hitting the tackler. 

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Desymond's picture

You're spot on with the RB issue. I think it was Booger McFarland on Mike and Mike talking about this exact issue. In general the offensive players are protected much more than defense. 

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lamplighter's picture

I remember watching the play and saying - he's gone

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Buckeyelicious's picture

I don't think I'd call that a defenseless player.  If he's not defenseless, then yes, it's a bad call.

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Desymond's picture

Here's the video for anyone interested. I think it's a combination of Kizer being a QB, he's semi-defenseless in that he was in a jumping/throwing motion, and Bosa led with the head. I think it's a good call.

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exnwohiobuckfan's picture

I agree it's a good call. He led with the crown of his helmet, that Is part of targeting. I feel if he had hit him with his face up, it would not have been called.

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NutBuckz's picture

meh, he hit him in the chest, crap call , call him for late hit, i could agree. and down with the ND fan who was cheering. it wasnt enough to save your suck team

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OurHonorDefend09's picture

Here are my problems with this being targeting:

1) Running forward, your head is the front part of your body, not your shoulder

2) While he is "leading" with his helmet here, there no helmet-to-helmet contact (he put his helmet on the numbers)

3) When running full speed towards someone who is trying to avoid you, you are sometimes unable to get your head to the side. This hit is more dangerous to Bosa than anyone else.

Targeting rules are in place to protect the safety of players who are being hit (and rightfully so). When you lose sight of the purpose of the rule, you also lose efficiency of how to actually execute those rules.

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Desymond's picture

Targeting rules are in place to protect the safety of players who are being hit 

If a secondary effect of this rule is protecting the safety of the hitting player (in this case bosa) then I'm all for it. Disincentivize hits that will also hurt the hitter. I don't want Bosa to have alzheimers when he is 40 because the rule lets him hammer guys with his head as long as they're not defenseless. 

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NutBuckz's picture

this is true, there were a lot of hits like this when i played, I conceed your point on this though.

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Earle's picture

Not a bad call.  A bad rule, maybe, but based on the rule, the call was correct.

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TShell's picture

If you want to change the rule, then fine, I'm on board. But that hit could be used as educational material for a textbook targeting foul under the current wording.

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KENTACOHUT's picture

I agree with Tshell , we could be looking at this all wrong. B1G was the test subjects for instant replay. This call was so bad that we may be the reason the rule gets tossed or fixed. 

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huntinwabbits's picture

I am completely ok with the B1G retroactively changing the score to 68-14. I would say 69 (nice) but our special teams on Saturday could not guarantee the additional point. It sucks for Ward though. I don't think you can really make up for the error. You just say your sorry and hope it doesn't happen again. Meanwhile, Ward lost a game of his college career and up to 3.5 more quarters to showcase himself to scouts. You have instant replay B1G. If you still fail even with that, then perhaps your officials should find an occupation more suiting to their skills set, or lack thereof.

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ScarletAndGrayMatter's picture

Freaking love Dexter! Great call! upvote

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So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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G.'s picture

Ward should be credited the time missed in the event that he commits another ejectable offense... Or just change the rule so the officials don't have as much room to make those mistakes.

G.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

May as well credit him for a touchdown.  Surprised the B1G Ten officials didn't just have this as their official position:

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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Shawnbuck927's picture

On the plus side , we did get a classic Gus Johnson highlight from this hit! :)

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GoBucks10's picture

Classic indeed.

I hate the offseason.

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GlassCityBuckeyes's picture

B1G should be embarrassed. Should be providing training and frequent testing of replay officials to insure they are competent.

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Bigmarty's picture

Should take classes in de-----fication of football and America!!!!

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Schizo's picture

If Urban is counting the forced fumble can we count it for this week's "Top Play Poll"? 

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Zimmy07's picture

Does this mean I can bill the 3 glasses of bourbon that it took to calm myself down after the call to Delaney?

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TennBuck16's picture

Will the dumbass official who took 10 seconds to confirm this call be reprimanded? Cause he absolutely should be. 

Hello, my name is Rico and I like to party.

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

Great move by the BIG.  You cannot go backwards, but recognizing a mistake is very important.

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buckeyepastor's picture

One positive of this "too little, too late" correction is that Ward can let go of any small, lingering reluctance to do the same thing the next time he's got a guy who caught a pass in the flat.   I can see where the ejection, in spite of being confident that you're right, could still leave a guy thinking, "I'd better try to do it different next time."   

And on the plus side, even with Ward out we allowed a total of 3 receptions all day, a TD only late in the game with the back-ups to the back-ups in the game, and it also gave the opportunity for Okudah to get a LOT of meaningful reps which helps his development.   

Wish Arnette hadn't went high (that one was targeting by definition), but because of Ward's unfair removal, we learned that Okudah can be counted on.  He went toe to toe with Moore from Maryland, so he can handle Nebraska's receivers   

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

When they go low ... we go lower!

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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CTBuckeyeFan's picture

That apology is meaningless unless it comes with pink slips for the officials involved.

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BucksHave7's picture

Agreed. What good is it is there is no accountability. 

BucksHave7

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ScarletAndGrayMatter's picture

Not a single mention of this on the B1G website. Absolutely worthless and hollow without an transparent and open acknowledgement, and apology to a kid you KICKED OUT OF A FREAKING GAME!

Without an apology directly to Denzel Ward, open acknowledgement of the mistake to fans, and consequences to all of the officials involved, on the field or otherwise from Jim Delaney and Bill Carollo, the B1G can go F#$% itself! 

Drive, Drive on down the field, Men of the Scarlet and Gray!

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BeaconofLight's picture

This apology means about as much to me as Mayfield's did. Seemingly everyone everywhere knew it wasn't targeting, except for the guys who are paid to get it right.

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bucksfan92's picture

So we have replay now and they still mange to fuck up something this simple.  Mind boggling.  I hope someone on that crew gets a suspension because had this been a tight game that could have actually made a difference.  Not to mention that Ward loses out on playing time.  There are so few games and for him to have to sit in the lockerroom for more than half of a game, a game where he made a tremendous play, is downright criminal.

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vtbuckeye's picture

Maybe Ward should announce that they apologized to him. Then they can either confirm, remain silent (defacto confirmation) or they can say that Ward was lying and that they never apologized thereby making them even bigger a-holes for not apologizing when they screwed up. I just don't see the downside of not publicly and humbly accepting the apology from the Big Ten.

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allinosu's picture

The first mistake was the official blowing the play dead. He could have thrown the flag and sort it out later. Second was the replay official. I know they are told to error on the side of safety but it was a mistake. They owned it and now it's time to move on. My bigger question was why on earth was #10 for UM not thrown out for an obvious bad hit to the helmet leading with the crown. The safety for PSU #2 (who I believe is the best safety in the league) has had numerous questionable hits and some obvious bad ones yet not one ejection.It appears we have officials inserting their own philosophy on the rule with such two extremes. They need to be more constant as a group.

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BierStube's picture

The ref (Jerry McGinn) and his crew have had other blunders

https://www.cornnation.com/2013/11/25/5142196/cobs-of-the-week-jerry-mcg...

"No matter where you go, there you are." B. Banzai

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OSUBias's picture

The silver lining here (other than Gus Johnson's unabashed awesomeness ) is that you know the B1G officials have all heard about this by now, especially since Urban outed the apology to the media. So the next time (say at Home, Oct 28) we are in a game that matters, they'll take a real long look before effing us again. 

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analyticalguy's picture

That's not the only silver lining. With him out (undeservedly) and Arnette out (deservedly), the other CBs got more snaps, which can only help down the road.

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BucksHave7's picture

Officiating is getting worse.  They miss umpteen calls during the game and now they can’t even get replay penalties correct.

Where is the accountability?  Fire that entire crew.

BucksHave7

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Pickybuck's picture

Why are the two officials involved in the call (replay & on the field) not being suspended for the game?  Just seems reasonable & would cause more evaluation of the targeting rule.

Picky Buckeye

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Earle's picture

I don't have a major issue with the call on the field.  I don't agree with it, but the collision was so violent and the impact on the receiver was such that I understand the official "anticipating" targeting without actually seeing the (non-existent) direct helmet contact.  The problem is with the replay official who "confirmed" the targeting based on who knows what, but certainly not video evidence.

It seems to me that the targeting/ejection decision should be made after the game in the cold light of reason and not in the heat of a game where the official might be influenced by any number of factors.  I actually think this should apply to hits that are not penalized during the game as well.  If the aim is to truly to reduce those kinds of hits, why should it be limited to the ones only seen and called by officials on the field.

(I fixed your comment above, btw.)

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HENRYJONESJR's picture

I do have some problem with the on the field call.   Yes - it was a very hard hit, but they can always look at it after the fact.  Just like they did later in the game with the second targeting call.  Let the play finish out.

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Hockey Buck's picture

So is he not suspended for not doing what he did not do?

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Earle's picture

Yes.  Or no.  What was the question, again?

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

You are a Mod now Earle?!  My god, when did you go to the dark side?

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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Earle's picture

I'm using my powers for (mostly) good, now. 

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

He already served his suspension by not being allowed to play the second half of the Maryland game.  

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

This just in ... the B1G will now have a re-review crew that will review the original review.  They will watch a re-replay of the original replay.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

That was a garbage targeting call and the one on Arnette wasn't much better.  Arnette went shoulder to head on a sliding QB, so I can at least kind of see what the refs were thinking, but he lowered for the tackle before the QB started to slide.  That's why I'll defend Arnette on that one and say it was a bad call.  This one on Ward was one of the top 5 worst targeting calls I've seen since the institution of this stupid rule.  It's sad that I have to say top 5 worst and not the worst with how bad it was.  Such a bad, bad rule.

Almost nobody is intentionally trying to take people's heads off.  A lot of circumstantial stuff going on on almost every single targeting call made.  I feel at a minimum, you shouldn't be ejected on the 1st targeting call - if you get called a 2nd time, then eject.  And this idea that if you get called in the 2nd half, you miss the 1st half of the next game - also very dumb.  If anybody did something super intentional and egregiously bad, they'd get suspended by either the NCAA, the conference, or the school...like the time Kurt Coleman got suspended a game for a nasty hit.

Class of 2010.

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hetuck's picture

Every other conference is making the targeting call at the conference HQ. That, at least, offers consistency. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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619nut's picture

I love denzel ward!! He earned mad respect for that hit especially considering he is a corner.

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Bamabucknut's picture

So....what is the penalty for the official on the field and in the review booth  who screwed up ?

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Garyc's picture

Wonder if the officials are getting retrained on targeting? Maybe that would help in getting it right the next time so that an apology does not become necessary. 

Garyc

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

Congratulations young man. An apology is not bad. Your reputation is clear. We believed in you.

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Markos's picture

Big shout out to Gus Johnson for the best call ever!!!! "What a hit!!!! Denzel Ward!!!!  You got Barbeque back there!!!!

Markos

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thirtytrap's picture

Well.....isn't that special

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Buck68's picture

significant points:

1] the B1G admitted the "error"... and called it an error.

2] we've had 'way too many' "apologies" to know what an apology means, or what an apology contains, or who is supposed to apologize to who.

3] somebody else needs to 'do something great'... immediately.

4] nice hit, Mr. Ward!  ;-{)}
 

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bobeyes's picture

So the question I have is.... IF Ward gets another targeting call, will he be suspended for the season, or is this first offense rescinded by the B1G?

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NObuck-I-inTEAM's picture

Is that part of the rule?  I've never heard that actually.

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Ripley Buckeye's picture

The best part was being there and hearing those pads do more than pop.....the whole stadium rocked after that hit.....best part was that the receiver immediately got back up and was not injured.

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Brutal Brutus's picture

The only reason this was called on the field was because of optics. In 10 years, players will be ejected for hitting too hard. In 20 years, players will be sporting big, inflatable bubble suits with flags around their waist. Total wussification of the game - SUCKS!!!!

Fear the Nut...

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MeatBichigan's picture

I was wondering about referee training and responses to issues like this. I came across this article: https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-big-ten-officiating-...

It has some stuff about how games are reviewed and how referees are evaluated and disciplined.

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

If they were legitimately sorry they would change the damn rule and only eject a player when it was an obviously malicious helmet-to-helmet hit, and throw out all of the upper shoulder/neck-area bullshit.

Shandy is not beer

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Stigger's picture

Meyer will credit Ward for the forced fumble, as well. 

Meyer should also credit Ward with a fumble recovery and touchdown. 

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dubjayfootball90's picture

What makes me mad the most, and what has already been said, is that he was effectively taken out of the game. They took away a game from him for a completely legal hit.

Good thing is that the backups can get some reps in game situations, but damnit, they take away a game from Ward, and then come back and say "My Bad"... Where are the ramifications for the refs? or the official who blew the call?

It's like if I fired an employee on the spot for throwing water on my desk, ruining my computer and all my important documents, only to find out two minutes after he walked out the door that I actually have a raging fire in my cube... WTF!?!?!?

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

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Facemeat2's picture

In summary, targeting is a stupid rule. Change it to something slightly less stupid.  

I don't think it's difficult to tell when a player is trying to hurt another player. The incidental shit where a receiver drops his body right as the db is making the hit should not be targeting. Picture-perfect hits like Ward's should not be targeting. Arnette's was clearly targeting. It isn't rocket surgery 

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knoxvilleBuckeye's picture

Worst rule in college football.  Should not eject player for the game or part of the next.  Change to 10 minute removal from the game or rest of the quarter, whichever is longer.

RPeters

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chiefbrokencloud's picture

So targeting?

KP

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