To me, making it back this quick just speaks to Burrow being hungry, and having a sense of urgency, seeing that Haskins was passing him by. This backup QB battle is going to get very interesting when we get into games where it's well in hand. Garbage time isn't usually a sticking point, but how do those snaps get divided?
Very intrigued moving forward, esp since we're now in the season, and we saw Haskins last week and he actually looked good.
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Beat me to it.
Same. I like it terms that it's that extra edge a guy uses to push even further than he thought he could. Being injured at an inopportune time, folks trying to anoint Haskins - and a vibe that people are sleeping on him and/or passing him over...I like Joey B catapulting his game to next level. Gun slingers gonna sling.
It's going to be interesting how Urban and Co deal with this whole QB room moving forward. Aside from the starter we've got two really solid guys to keep engaged next year and beyond...plus Tate plus a verbal from Emory Jones. Good problems to have assuming we keep them all in the fold.
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PS - Burrow needs to be know as G.O.A.T. Boy:
There's goat and then there's G.O.A.T.
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
There's goat and then there's G.O.A.T.
And a Martell-sized goat
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Lol, I can't stop watching this
^ best post ever ^
I gotta call targeting on that second hit! lmao
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I love Burrow. He is tough and hardworking. However, is the fact that his hand healed quickly a testament to his work ethic? Seems more genetic than anything else.
Regardless, happy to have him back and excited for the future!
is the fact that his hand healed quickly a testament to his work ethic?
Sure is, he's so disciplined that his work ethic is even implemented at the cellular level
Joe Burrow is back this quickly, and is a full participant in practices? I'm not excited or anything.
It appears Haskins has more ability but Burrow fits closer to the JT mold should we need to use a backup in a close game. If JT were to go down, I see them inserting Burrow first based on experience/trust and his talents more suitable to the current offense (right or wrong) . That said I hope, and think, Haskins wins the job in spring ball. His arm talent is just so impressive, a natural born gun slinger.
I like both guys and want to see them play some meaningful snaps before I make any judgement on the matter. That being said, didn't Burrow throw the second farthest ball at halftime during the spring game, after of course 12-guage. Also a few years ago in high school his senior year he threw 63 TDs and 2 ints, and also threw one pass that was tipped in the end-zone, and he ended up catching for a TD, and he won Mr. Football in the state of Ohio, so I would like to see how things shake out before I pull for one or the other. Really at this point for me it's a coin toss.
I have no doubt that when/if Joe's number is called he will go out and put his talents on display. I think he's got the "it factor" and he can spin the rock for sure. Welcome back Joe!
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You can tell how much he wants to see the field - dude work some unpaid overtime to get ready to go
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
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Glad he is healthy, but he didn't work any harder to get back, please.. I broke a bone in my big toe in college and was back starting and playing soccer at a high level again in less than 3 weeks. Young men's bodys heal fast at 18-21.. and Oh what I wouldn't give to be that young again!
"Vision without execution is just hallucination."
If all things hold as is, next year's QB battle will be epic: Burrow, Haskins, Martell, Emory Jones.
I do not envy Ryan Day/Kevin WIlson/Urban Meyer's decision.
Joe Burrow, imo, should be first off the bench at QB.
As for next year, Meyer's history shows that he isn't keen on making a choice among players. The roster will probably read:
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I think Haskins or Burrow transfer and Jones will redshirt so it will be Burrow or Haskins and then Martell.
If one transfers Emory Jones will be on the travel roster for every away game.. Hopefully he wouldn't be needed but you never know
Burrow will graduate in May 2018!!'
I imagine he will and should make his decision based on his personal experience of how "things" and "decision making" was handled during his time in the program, in particular this year!
You beat me to it. I don't envy the "decision" the coaches will have to make because they probably won't make it. They'll just roll into week one saying "we'll figure it out"
and at least 2 of them will be captains.
Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.
Does Urban go with Joe as a second stringer, if he is "game ready," or does he stick with Haskins? Joe definitely has the mobility. Looking forward to seeing them both!
I have a feeling they wont say and it will be an "OR" situation on the depth chart. We wont truly know unless they get called upon.
Rumor has it that Joe Burrow's uncle is Deadpool.
Time to make the chimi-effing-changa's in mop up duty,
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I think that a lot of people underestimate this kid. He's got an arm and is a very serviceable runner. As SPD said before, he's got the "it" factor. No disrespect to Haskins, but I hope Burrows wins it out.
On the contrary, I hope to see Haskins win the battle so we can have a respected passing game again. Haskins came in and really looked good throwing to second string WRs. He has great anticipatory throws. I didn't see that out of Burrow last year. He may, but needs to demonstrate it. I think Haskins will be proven to have the "it" factor as well.
You evidently did not watch Mr Burrow last year or the year before(spring game) as most of his throws were just that. Anticipatory! He has made All of his receivers look good by throwing the ball in the correct areas. Also it is like he knows where he is going with the ball when he looks at the defense. He has the "it" factor so just sit back and watch.
This will truly be interesting to watch shake out. I remember the spring game, Burrow has a better touch on the deep ball, but Haskins can run with the football much better for the read option.
What a great problem to have, eh? We are LOADED at QB.
What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!
Not sure that I see why you think Haskins is better equipped to do read option. When have we seen Haskins run?
Schwaan dropping truth bombs all over the field!
"Most Noahs have two of everything, he's got four tonight" - Gus Johnson on Noah Brown's 4 TD catches against Oklahoma.
Well, now we know why we’re not gonna see JT switch to receiver anytime soon. Lol
Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.
Not with that type of effort
I know it was an extremely small sample size against Army's backups but Haskins looked very fluid and clearly has great arm strength. We've seen some of Burrow last year in late game blowouts. Burrow definitely seems to fit this specific offense a little better, but we saw at the end of 2014 what a pure passing QB (who can also run a little in a broken play if need be) can do as well. We seem to be in good hands.
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One of the few bright spots of being at the OU game was watching Joe in warm ups.
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Do you guys think if we start to struggle coach will put in Joe? Kind of like he kept switching between Cardale and JT in 15?
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No,never,not gonna happen. If coach hasn't made a change yet he ain't gonna do it. They have struggled aince last year with making no changes. Coach barely let Haskins have mop up duty against Army. What did he have one Series. That game had long been over. Another poster said that next year will be a bunch of ors on the depth chart. That is coach Meyer style. He has a hard time owning up to his actions. By placing ors or giving lip service to players it gives them a false sense that their is a chance their number might be called. I don't have no inside info. Just my opinion. Employers do it all the time to deserving employees feed enough carrots to keep them their while not having to promote them. Then they don't have to act on a bad call they made on the old experienced boss.If this what he is doing it is wrong.It will catch up to him. Maybe it already is in the recruiting game. Again no facts just my opinion.
Our depth chart next year will look like the rowing teams, so many "ors". Tee-hee!
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Thank you, my good man. I, too, am stuck "up north". I live in Lake Orion, and man it's a great time to be a Buckeye living in meeeeeeeeeeeshigan. Where are you "stuck"?
Though I moved here in the height of the Cooper years... My how times can change.
We'll finally have a chance against PJ Fleck.
New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.
with that said it won't be hard to instill pj flecks football culture at tOSU
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I agree to an extent, but now that Joe is back and healthy. He might've considered it during Oklahoma.
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I want to see a lot of back-ups at all positions get significant playing time this Saturday, but I'd also be intrigued to see JB & DH each have a series with the starters.
I watched Joe his Senior year in high school on t.v. when Athens beat ASVSM in the state championship game, I came away very impressed, he can run and throw.
Athens lost in that game to Toledo Central Catholic.
But he did looks lights out in that game though.
He threw 6 touchdowns, passed for over 400 yea and ran another 70. They scored 52pts. Not his fault they couldn't stop TCC. He was the only reason they were in it.
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Good news. In my opinion Joe is the one who should be starting.
Tough, determined kid. Sounds like attributed needed to be a great quarterback.
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I think that Burrow is the 2nd this year b/c of the style of offense. Next year, when they start adding more pro style spread to their offense, I think it will be an open competition.
With Burrow's experience with the option, the RPOs can really open up the offense with all of the "free yards". Haskins has a cannon for an arm and has unbelievable upside, but if D-Coordinators get more game film on the freshman Haskins they'll be better at stopping him
Also, there is nothing wrong w/ Burrow as a passer. In the spring game, Burrow had a higher yards per completion than Haskins
Welcome back, Joe!
Nice to have Joe back. We are blessed to have two guys that can step in and perform so well when callled upon.
The future is bright.
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That QB room is filled with talent - so much so that I don't know how the future plays out.
For recruiting, if Haskins wins the job I say Emory Jones goes elsewhere, he will not want to wait 3 years to play with Haskins at QB. I really think Joe can be special and being an Ohio HS star draws more interest from the fan base. I say Joe is our Next great QB at THE OSU. Go Bucks!
To play devils advocate, Haskins could come in next year and absolutely light it up then dart to the NFL.
"How firm thy friendship"
Not to mention Emory would likely redshirt his first year anyway.
Haskins isn't playing three more years after this. He would play two at most, and Jones would redshirt the first.
The reality for top QBs coming out of HS - every single top 10-15 program is going to have massive competition because everyone recruits a QB every year. There is nowhere to go where you are guaranteed playing time, unless you want to drop down to the second tier schools.
Guarantano ditched OSU and went to Tennessee because he thought he was gaming the playing time, and now he is riding the pine for a lesser team. Happens all the time.
"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.
Urban and staff cooled on Guarantano actually, and the kid knew this in advance of signing with Tenn.
Does Joe being an Ohio HS star really draw more interest from the fan base? Just asking. I live in Alabama so I don't necessarily know the feeling of the local fan base. However, I do know that we have fans throughout the country and it may not make a bit of difference to them. We just want a passing game.
I don't get the impression most people care, except for those who are from SE Ohio or watched him in HS.
Personally I don't care and I have no idea who is better between the two, and don't have a preference. I like the potential I have seen in both Burrow and Haskins.
I think a lot of the general fanbase throughout the state-not young people in Columbus or Cleveland, or internet denizens, just your average longtime Ohioan Buckeye fan from throughout the state WOULD like to see an Ohio boy starting at QB
I think joe is a very accurate passer and has plenty of arm. Haskins is also a great talent, next years battle will be a good one. I hope neither one transfers but if Haskins gets the job Burrow wouldn't transfer but if Burrow wins maybe Haskins would consider it.
If Burrow loses the job next year, he should transfer. Both of those guys have NFL potential.
By graduating Spring 2018, Burrow will be the captain of his own fate, as he should be; he can then grad transfer. Smart man and play 2 years if needed!
Hopefully his decision will be based on what he's seen done by the Coaches, not the ole' coach speak bit.
Wow, do you attend practices? That's a big statement from seeing mop up time and spring games.
Well, I used the word potential
I would expect the loser of the battle to transfer in the Spring. Wouldn't really blame either of them.
Odds that UFM doesn't name a starter after Spring practice??? Will evaluate over the summer and name starter during camp????
I read blitz
I think Joe saw he couldnt afford to miss any more time - Haskins was going to permanently pass him for #2... look at Mike Weber, I bet he'd tough through that hammy if he had a chance, not a shot at Weber at all, just a reality of all the horses we have in the stable. You get hurt, fair or unfair, you fall down the depth chart.
Love seeing players bounce back from injury quickly. Just hope he's not pushing himself too fast. Reinjury can often be worse than the original injury. We've seen that hurt a QB in the recent past.
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So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
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Joe Burrow has been a patient, team first kind of guy. However, if he does not play soon, he will end up setting records at some other university. Love this guy. If anybody on this squad has earned play time, it's Joe Burrow.
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Next year, we are going to look back on this year's QB debacles and wonder "what in the actual F was UFM thinking? He had a STAR being held back by someone who can't complete a 5 yard out".
Because I couldn't go for 3.
Unfair. If you had said a 15 yard out and a db within 2 yards I could agree. And UFM values character and leadership as much as arm takent. Not such a bad thing, actually. And I didn't dv, for the record.
Good character doesn't beat elite defenses. I like good character, too, but I prefer my quarterback to be able to throw the ball AND have character.
I love JT as a person. I think he's been a great example of what you're supposed to be as a student-athlete. He's just a horrible passer. One of the worst I've ever seen.
Thank you. It's not like the backups are thugs. They are good character guys AND good quarterbacks. Plus, look at Zeke. He's not exactly lighting the world on fire character wise. We have to face facts that Urban is doing the wrong thing for his team, his paying customers and his recruiting future right now.
Ever? That's aggressive. Apparently you didn't see any of the Todd Beokman games.
Does Urban hope UNLV keeps it a two or three touchdown game then he doesn't have to play either Burrow or Haskins just to not make the choice.
I realize this is obviously stupid, but it feels like all these "or" designations, especially at the QB position is nothing more than participation trophies.
I think the "or" has both of these guys working harder
I don't think it's stupid, really. I think it does show how much Urban values his players, which is what I think you're getting at with the "participation trophy" thing. The Championship in '14 was due to choices being made in the form of injuries, thus forcing them into a more focused offense without having to make the choice of one guy over another.
I once handed Archie Griffin the keys to his loaner car.
Glad he's healthy. I prefer Burrow simply because he's mobile. Not saying Haskins won't be, just haven't seen it.
Both are great. B is a better system qb but H has better arm talent (not by far). If JT goes down, I expect B as 2, but next spring I expect H to make a good case for himself. B can grad transfer, easing U's conscience and H can start 18 with M as backup.
I would project B a mid round NFL talent and H may be high round based on arm alone.
Cardale's arm didn't get him drafted that high.
I wonder if Cardale ever wonders "what if" he had not stayed the next year and declared following the Natty.
He did come back and graduate this past May; but there's nothing like striking when the iron is hot. Lattimore and Hooker did just that. So even if NFL was to be Not For Long, they got paid first!
He probably would have been a 6th round pick if he had left after '14. Despite ridiculous rumors on message boards, NFL teams aren't handing $20M to a guy with three games of tape.
It's all just a big "what if".
He stayed and was taken in what, the 4th round?
I don't imagine staying did all that much either.
Comment was purely speculative about Cardale's thoughts.
Great news...now get in the game and do this thing!
Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP
It’s not typical for a quarterback to return to action less than a month after breaking a bone in his throwing hand, but Burrow showed no ill effects of his injury while throwing the ball in warmups this past weekend.
Is it typical for QBs to have broken hands repaired with a plate?
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It depends on what was broken. If it wasn't a finger, but rather one of the carpals or metacarpals-actual bones in the hand that was cracked/broken, there wasn't necessarily a lot of structural damage and those kinds of breaks generally heal quickly w/out much trauma
Good to see him back so quickly. He should be in a dog fight for that backup spot, with Barrett
Joe Burrow is ready and that's a great thing. Both he and Haskins will play this weekend, and let the chips fall where they may. I've ben very impressed with a lot of what Burrow's put on tape. I'm for whoever can make the read and drive the ball downfield. Something JT was better at last week. Pull the damn trigger.
Please, i just want a good passing QB ... I want an accurate passer able to go longer than a 5 yard route ... And he must be able to do that ag. top opponents ... Not just ag. Army, UNLV and other cupcake opponents ... Please !!!
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So ... since worrying comes so naturally for me ... I wonder if Burrow and Haskins will both stay with the program? I love Braxton, Pryor and JT but I want to see the bucks with a passing QB that could get drafted in the NFL (as a QB, not a WR LOL).
The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes
Looks like a good place to transfer for Burrow/ Haskins loser would be Fla Gators. No qb standing out there.
Since Haskins would definitely have to sit a year if he was to transfer (D1); personally I can see a scenario where Haskins takes the gamble that Burrow will grad transfer.
He seen those laser beams being slung around by the youngin behind him. Id want to get healthy too.
You are only as big as the sheeple say you are.
I observed both Burrow and Haskins during the spring game, watching from C deck. Both are very capable.
Burrow demonstrated a good sense of the read option. His throws were on target and tended to have more of a floating touch. He lets plays develop. He reminded me of JT: Sort of a jack of all trades that manages a game well.
Haskins was impressive because of his mechanics and release passing. He's really confident, doesn't hesitate and throws with velocity and high accuracy. The OL doesn't have to block for long when Haskins is in. He has the "wow" factor.
In the end, I'd be happy with either. I think it will come down to the intangibles: Leadership, decision making, play management, recognizing defenses, clock management, etc.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
CowCat, I saw the same game and had the same observations, but from A deck. Burrow tended to loft the long ball right on target, while Haskins tended to zip the ball, most on target, some not.
For me, quoting stats is not the same as the eye test.
Life starts all over again when it gets crisp in the fall. (F. Scott Fitzgerald)
I hope Joe is the starting QB in 2018, yet if he does not win the position I hope he transfers and play at UC for coach Fickell for a couple of years. Would be great to see him in that situation where fans can come and see him play from his region!
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I remember one player saying Burrow was the next Tom Brady. Can't think who it was though.
Amazing. Go, Joe, go!
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