Former Ohio State Footballer, Army Ranger Joe Brown Talks Athletics and War, Says Buckeyes Can Learn From Army

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Hovenaut's picture

Great revisit, I recall an earlier piece on Joe Brown a few years back. Great reminder that Ohio State heroes are not all made on the football field.

I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...

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Horvath22's picture

Thanks for the link, Hove. Great article.

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Major H's picture

Yes indeed, a link to a great story. Thanks for digging it up!

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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SoulPatrol32's picture

Great read Jimmy. Thank you Joe Brown for your service to our great country. 

Keep fighting CalPoppy

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Darkebuck's picture

Thank you for your service Mr. Brown.

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andretolstoy's picture

Good story.

If you die before you die, then you won't die when you die. 

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MOBUCKK91's picture

He is sooooo right about a game not even coming close to emulating war and the "me" factor of sports.  Good stuff from one of our American heroes - thank you, Joe Brown.  

You don't know what you have until it's gone .... for example, toilet paper.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

As an army vet, damn I can't wait for the Army/Navy game this year. Army is finally fielding a competitive team and that rivalry can finally reclaim it's place among the top 2-3 rivalries in the entire sports world. Go Bucks! Go Army! 

Lock of the week: Trending in the wrong direction

LOTW: 4-3

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Jimmy Longo's picture

Yeah for sure. It'd be really cool to see Ohio State maintain a relationship with a service academy to play each year. It'd do a lot for both involved.

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semperfibuck's picture

Many thanks to Joe for his service and his views!  Clearly he "gets it."

Might we ask what Joe is doing now? Are his injuries debilitating?

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Jimmy Longo's picture

Joe is doing awesome. Giving talks to ROTC programs and other kinds of groups from what it sounds like when he gets the chance. He's the director of parks and rec and the deputy city manager in Copperas Cove, Texas.

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

""One of the problems you see in athletics is that when you're an athlete, what're you focused on?" Brown rhetorically asked. "You focus on yourself. Me. You're creating a 'me machine.'""

Saban on a cart eating cold pizza

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Seattle Linga's picture

Great read Jimmy - Well done

Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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typeOHpositive's picture

Thank you for your service sir and your wise insight.  Of course I want the Bucks to win but I take no joy in beating Navy or Army, not because they are not worthy in any way, but because football is further down the list of priorities for the football players on these teams...they have bigger things they are focused on, they are bound by their duty, they are outstanding men, they are limited by the size of their talent pool and physical size restrictions. We need to win because it has more impact on our season as a whole...but these men are tough as hell, disciplined and will have more impact on America.  Play them, be respectful, be glad if you win and move on....I have nothing but respect for these academies and the soldiers, who also just happen to play Div 1 Football

"I don't want to be around average, why be around average!" -UFM

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

"You’ve spent time since you were seven years old all the way if you’re fortunate enough to play collegiately and professionally. You’ve spent all that time focusing on me. We don’t spend a whole lot of time on 'how do I make the team better.'”

Preach, Joe Brown.

From this US Army vet: thanks for your service and sacrifice.

Army Strong. Buckeye Forever.

Go Bucks. Top the Cadets.

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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Major H's picture

Joe Brown, thank you for your service and sacrifices for our country. I salute you!

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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Oldschoolbuck's picture

Amen, Joe Brown. Great perspectives from someone who's "been there, done that". Thanks for your service, sir. A true Buckeye & American hero. 

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

If he reads this, thank you for your service to our country, it is not forgotten by anyone on this site.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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SaltyD0gg's picture

Sounds like a guy that should be an honorary captain!

Pain of Discipline

Pain of Regret

Take Your Pick

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HSBDAWG's picture

If I could up Vote this more then once I would.

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Major H's picture

Especially this week. Good idea, Salty!

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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Frimmel's picture

A stairwell collapsing and a 30-foot drop while ordering an airstrike in Baghdad dashed his military service and hope for more time in the league.

How is that left as all of the story regarding that? I know that isn't what this story is "about" but c'mon. 

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D.J. Byrnes's picture

Not today Frimmel. Not today.

Los Angeleno by birth; Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

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Frimmel's picture

Fair enough. If the author didn't want to go there the story might have found some more mundane way to say his service was cut short. There is too much if the author didn't want to go into it and not enough there given that the story did. I read the rest of the story with "What the hell happened to this guy?" screaming in my head. 

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Jimmy Longo's picture

the premise of the article is more about what he did and offers post-service and the experiences/takes he has and not what took him out of it to begin with. if i hadnt mentioned it at all i'd see your point but going on a tangent about his injury would away from what the story is trying to accomplish. 

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Frimmel's picture

I understand that isn't what the article is about and understand why you didn't go there. Given that though you might have glossed over the whole thing a bit more as I pointed out to DJ. 

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Jimmy Longo's picture

Fair point. I probably should've given it some more words that allures to his condition, which is thriving. Less if you feel that way. Not as if I'm trying to gloss over his injuries but they have value to be stated in the way they were. You understand. I was more focused on what he's passionate about now. 

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osu992's picture

Thanks for the week's theme, Jimmy.

New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.

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JJBuckeye's picture

Joe Brown, thank you from Buckeye Nation for your service to our country and wish you nothing but success with your future endeavors. Go Bucks

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Jimmy Longo's picture

greatest group/story/book/series WWII-related ever. 

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Hovenaut's picture

Circling back with an emphatic +1.

I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

As a 101st veteran, they struck a special chord with me. Seeing the artifacts and War trophies from Hitler's Eagle's Nest in the 101st Airborne museum was truly special.

What that group did, in particular, is simply astounding.

And, the ~10 hour mini series event underscores why the book is always better than the movie. You can't fit a book into 3 hours of screen time, so thank God they did it justice and effectively went line by line. 

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

A few related recommended readings, if you like Stephen Ambrose:

The Victors

D-Day

Citizen Soldiers

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Jimmy Longo's picture

I've read d-day! thanks for the others. crazy how he can make war and death an enjoyable read.

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

No problem! I hope you enjoy them. I've always been a history buff, but being in Germany for 3 years really whet my appetite for WWII history. There's something about seeing those places first hand that brings it to life.

Similarly, if you ever find yourself traveling thru Kansas, say going to Colorado, chances are you'll be on I-70. I recommend building in a stop at the Eisenhower Center. His presidential museum in Abilene, located at the site of his childhood home (which is still there), is about two to three minutes off of the interstate, and it is incredible! 

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RBuck's picture

Great article. Thanks Joe.

Don't spook the horse.

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CowCat's picture

An interesting perspective, especially about the "me" culture in sports. Thanks for your service, sir.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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Buctor's picture

Also want to add a "Thanks for your service."

Might be a really great person to have in for Real Life talk.

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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Buctor's picture

Just read link, thanks Hove.

Anyone know if he is still in Reynoldsburg or Ohio?

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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Jimmy Longo's picture

Joe is currently the director of parks & rec and the deputy city manager for copperas cove, tx.

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

Moved back to Fort Hood, Texas. Like a lot of vets, I'm sure he feels good surrounded by a military community. 

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Major H's picture

So, do you know if he was with the 1st Cav?

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

No, he wasn't, he was a Ranger. 

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11Buckeye's picture

To be fair, the cadets are like the snot nosed kids of the military...it wouldn't be the worst thing for them if the buckeyes knocked them down a peg or two.

-4 year army/Afghanistan vet

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

But, we keep that stuff in house.

Love the play on words, including your MOS in your user name. Well done! 

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buckeyeinWI's picture

great read, thanks!

GO BUCKEYES!

16-2 is SWEET!

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Urbanologist's picture

We are learning alright, learning that not a damn thing has changed with our offense. Tho Dobbins is a stud. But sadly he is the only bright spot on D. Sorry to say but what we are learning is we are going to get beat a lot this season.

Theire is only one truth...

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Jimmy Longo's picture

This is some very interesting Urbanology.

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