I always hoped that Crew Stadium would be moved to that spot and fill around it with some mixed used buildings. That way you would have all three professional stadiums together with some good nightlife to fill in.
They should really take note of how the St. Louis cardinals have their venue set up. Look up ballpark village. It's amazing.
"Aaannnnd heeee's got an opening! Elliott! Off to the races can they catch him?! ... No they can't - touchdown! Eighty. Five. Yards!"
They do have a great setup on this. I live about 15 mins from the stadium but can hop on a train, get off literally feet from the stadium, and pregame at BPV before watching a Cards game. My only complaint (which is minor) is that they exclusively serve AB beer and charge like $8 for it. I has improved since AB has started buying up smaller breweries like Elysian, but I hate supporting them because they are doing that.
I hear what you're saying and agree in theory - but I've been to St. Louis' version of a ball park village, Cincy's version and KC's version of a "District" - both KC and Cincy blow St. Louis out of the water. IMO - whatever that really means. I do love what many metro areas are doing in sprucing up the image to draw in business and maintain a handle on crime (there will always be criminal activity).
You don't know what you have until it's gone .... for example, toilet paper.
D1145- I think you are thinking of a different piece of land. This is not going to be on the big piece of land where the casino was going to go... This proposal is for the land right next to Express Live (on the other side of the tracks) and includes the triangular piece of land behind Express Live... The big piece of land where the casino was going to go is still under development discussions. There's a chance a new Crew stadium could go there, although I don't think that's what will end up happening there.
Yep good call. Although I would probably prefer the triangle space this uses up since its closer to the ballpark. Still they have some room for the stadium and if this brings some bars and restaurants then it could be a really cool area... especially if they keep getting big games (i.e. USA/Mexico or playoff hockey).
What is/was Express Live?
Nothing cleanses the soul like a no call pass interference.
Express Live is a concert venue in the Arena District. It's right next to Huntington Park. (It used to be called PromoWest Live). Its actually a pretty sweet place to watch concerts... In the winter, the indoor area seats like 3000, but in the summer, the back wall of the venue opens up and has a lawn area that brings the capacity to around 5500.
I absolutely love this.
Can't trust these hoes
The grocery store component will make bank down there...
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"resort style feel" of course means a few surface parking lots, a garage, retention ponds, and a lot of wasted space right next to downtown. great. looks like the retirement homes across 670. :|
Better here than all the new stuff they're putting up in the SN.
I was in Columbus a couple weeks ago for the fist time in a few years and surprised at the positive change up and down High St.
"If you're not changing, you're falling behind."
Ya the amount of construction in Columbus is amazing. I take my mom on "guided tours" every few weeks because we are both very pro-development and she likes to see all the new buildings going up but can't get around real well anymore... We recently decided to count every project that we could find from downtown through the Short North (IV and VV included) and into campus, and we came up with over 115 major developments currently under construction! And we didn't even count all the projects that have been approved by the city council but haven't broke ground yet. I can't wait to see what the city looks like in ten years.
I actually was impressed the Short North. Very cool.
The buildings look kinda shiny I guess
Yeah. The brass/gold color is ... something? Looks like it would belong in Vegas, not Columbus. Hopefully that aspect of the design does not survive.
I guess I'm the only one that hates it when every building looks the freaking same. That's just boring. I hope they do go with a wild color. Maybe they'll go with black like the Luxor. lol
If this keeps up I might have to move to Cleveland.
Ya if you don't like living in a city that's growing expodentialy you may just want to go ahead and pack up and move to Cleveland or wherever...
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but the Columbus Metro area is projected to add one million more people by 2050. That's one million more people in just 33 years... So if you're going to live here you might as well get used to developments like this because all those people have to live (and play) somewhere.
I love that Columbus is developing , I especially like it when the skyline grows.
I realize the design isn't finished, but this a resort style hotel with a very suburban feel to it, going into an area that should be given a walkable pedestrian feel. The surface parking bugs me, I picture folks walking across parking lots and hiking up the hills near the water ponds on their way back to Inotech from lunch, ala Office Space.
I think a mall downtown would be really cool too. A place people can drive to, park their cars, and go walk around inside. Maybe in 30 years they'll knock this down and build a park. Because City Center mall was just so cool and really contributed the bustling downtown.
You hit the nail on the head when you said that you realize the design isn't finished...
This proposal hasn't even been officially submitted for review yet... Once that happens, the DDC will review it and give them a list of things they HAVE to change before approval would even be considered. There will be lots of changes to this project before it goes to City Council for final approval. These "back and forth's" will probably take around a year or so. I'm pretty confident your concerns about the suburban feel to it will be addressed.
And as for the skyline... It looks like the skyline could be adding four or five 30 to 35 story towers to the skyline in the very near future! It's definitely exciting times to be living in Cbus right now, especially if you love new development like I do.
where did you hear/read about new 30-35 story high rises?
The one I know of is next to the North Market.
• The North Market Tower has been approved and should start being built sometime this year or early 2018. It will be built in the parking lot next to the North Market. It will be 35 stories tall.
• Millennial Tower hasn't passed final approval yet, but is a proposed 28 story mixed use project that will be in the River South area, just down the street from where the Red Zone nightclub used to be.
• The other two high-rises are to be included in a 21 acre development between COSI and the tracks in East Franklinton. The city took proposals from multiple developers for this plot of land, and now have it narrowed down to two finalists. When the city gave the guidelines for what they want the developers to put there, it included two 30-35 story residential towers to be accompanied by hotels, restaurants, and around 15 more ten to fifteen story buildings, along with a massive parking garage along the tracks near where spaghetti warehouse is. The city plans on selecting the winning development team soon and wants construction to begin sometime in early 2018. This development should add some balance and depth to the skyline by adding some much needed height and mass to the area just west of the river.
It would be cool only if they demolished an awesome outdoor ice rink to make it happen. /s
Wow! Eastern Bloc architecture in 2017.
This is a garbage project for that piece of land. You've got some developers here who are really reaching out of their comfort zone and whatever commission has to approve this should be skeptical.
Would rival the lousy apts they threw in front of columbus commons - totally uninspired.
I think the most important part of this development isn't the area that's pictured above but the other area that is included in the proposal and that's the long narrow piece of land just north of Express Live. It starts at Neil and Vine and goes along the Goodale/Vine connecter west to the White Castle headquarters land that will also be redeveloped soon.
And secondly, just remember that this is just the first proposal for this land. By the time it goes through the Downtown Development Commission, things will be changed... This is just what the developers invision, but there's no doubt this proposal will have to be altered before DDC and City Council will give it final approval.
There's a decent amount of building going on in Columbus. In 25 years, Columbus may be considerably larger. Certainly will be larger than Cincy and Cleveland.
"You're welcome for the house I built."
•If we're talking City populations: the current population of the City of Columbus is already larger than Cincinnati, Cleveland and Dayton combined.
•If we're talking Metro Areas: All three (of the 3C's) Metro Areas are currently around the same size but Cleveland's continues to shrink, Cincinnati's is growing again (but slowly), and Columbus's continues growing rapidly... The US Census bureau projects that the Columbus Metro Area will be the biggest in the state by no later than 2025.
•if we're talking County populations: Franklin County recently became the most populous county in the state, passing Cuyahoga.
Downtown in general is coming around. I just moved my business into East Franklinton, a couple of blocks away from COSI and Land Grant Brew.. Really happy so far with THIS part of Franklinton (East of rt 315) and the major redevelopment taking place. Glad to be a part of the comeback.
"Vision without execution is just hallucination."
I'll be down there this Sat. my wife's friends are coming in town so we're doing a bit of a dt tour. Starting at 16 bit Sat. eating some Dirty Franks, heading to Pins, then bar hopping breweries until we end up at Olivers for dinner. Even 2 years ago we would have just stayed around Gahanna, I'm glad that there's so much to do now.
Edit: Should say, Land Grant is one of the breweries on the list, since most of what I listed wasn't in Franklinton.
I just talked to her last week. She was gonna make a pot for me.
also check out Rehab and Strongwater.
They are added to the list, Thanks. Luckily there is Uber...i'm not in my all day drinking shape yet, but this will help me prepare for football season.
Edit: this sounds like I drink and drive during the football season. I promise I'm one of those people who wont drive even after 1 beer.
Man I miss C-Bus. Boomtown USA.
Fields of Dreams
It makes me simultaneously happy for the city and its inhabitants that it's growing and thriving, but sad because I don't live there anymore.
IMO it's a great large city with a small town feel
Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
Kinda like Seattle... except when one is on the the 5 freeway!
The only thing that's new in the world is the history that we have forgotten.
They really need to get Crew Stadium downtown. I imagine that it would bring in a larger audience.
Wish the Ohio Machine had a field downtown as well. I think they'd have great turnout being centrally located.
Oh yeah - shiny gold buildings - so tasteful.
Wahoo! Wahoo! Rip, Zip, Bazoo! I Yell. I Yell. For O.S.U.
I wouldn't get too caught up on the look or color of the buildings...
By the time this proposal winds its way through approval stages, chances are those buildings will look A LOT different than they do now. That's what the DDC (Downtown Development Commission) is for...
Thanks for being the voice of reason here man, lots of negative nancys poo-pooing what looks to be another great area in our great city.
It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.
The rendering looks like something dreamed up by Mike P. Brady, Architect.
As long as the units don't have orange formica countertops.......Even Alice hated those.
Pure 70's LOL
So glad I'll get to miss the construction and traffic. Would like to see an aerial view
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Happy to see this, always thought this area would be a gold mine for developers. I mean the final version will be more in line with what is currently working downtown, lots of brick and simulated character.
I just hope Bettys survives.
I really hope this project comes to fruition. That parcel is one area that I thought might remain a "dead zone" due to the proximity of the railways and not knowing who owned what land, etc. Now if the city could close up shop on whatever they are doing in the parcel of land just north of Vine/Goodale and open that up for development that would be the icing on the cake.
Speaking of the plot of land just north of Vine/Goodale... If you're talking about the the piece of land at the northern corner of Neil and Vine that's been under construction for awhile now... that probably won't ever be opened up for development (at least for new buildings)... That's actually the spot where the tunnel currently being dug under the city will end.
If you haven't heard, the EPA and the City of Columbus signed an agreement a few years back to better separate sewage and rainwater runoff. So currently a huge tunnel is being dug under that part of the city. It is scheduled to be completed sometime this fall. It's roughly 175 feet underground. It starts out by Frank Rd and goes under freeways, buildings and even the river. When complete it will come out at that site at Neil and Vine. It has taken years to complete because the machine they imported from Germany can only dig at a rate of a few feet a day.