Ohio State Could Start a True Freshman Offensive Lineman for the Second-Straight Season

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

If it were to be a freshman, smart money would have to be on Wyatt Davis seeing as how he's a more natural fit at the position and Myers is still kind of learning.

Either way, after Jordan had such a great year, I'm not at all opposed too it, best players should play.

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

I'm no professional scout but Wyatt Davis is the most impressive OG recruit I've ever seen.  This guy is a freaking battering ram out on the field.  If you have 60 seconds of free time just watch him at the Army Bowl game trucking fellow top-100 recruits down the field without breaking a sweat.

http://247sports.com/Video/Wyatt-Davis-Army-Bowl-Game-Clips-7410853?View...

What a monster.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

That certainly is a big scary man.  I wouldn't be hurt at all if he got the job.  I just hope whomever gets it comes in and dominates and gives the coaching staff no choice but to go with them.

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Major H's picture

Great clip of Wyatt Davis. Pretty good QB play, also.

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Chewbucca's picture

I wanted to watch this link but 247 felt the need to put the video behind a minute and a half of the damn Trivago idiot, and that is just not going to happen.

 Given their non-stop barrage of commercials, I find it hard to believe that they can save anybody money.  There is just not enough margin built into the travel business to support this non-stop advertising. 

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CowCat's picture

All Trivago seems to be is a search aggregation across other travel sites. I don't know how they're making any money.

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bonebuck's picture

Road grater. He had an awesome display of strength against the best. Imagine what he will do with teams that have subpar DL's like Michigan and Mich. St. PSU.

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ScarletAndGrayMatter's picture

Obviously the preference is for one of the upper classmen to separate themselves, but if the freshman can make a push because they are that far along, and not because the upper classmen are not developing, then that bodes very well for our depth and the future. At the very least it would be nice to see these guys get in in the later stages of some games to get some reps.

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buckeyeradar's picture

Plug in a Slob.  It's nice to be able to evaluate such talent.

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GallowayGambleGinnWAR7's picture

Would be nice to see another true freshman earn the spot and never give it up 

I don’t see it.

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Buckeye06's picture

I guess we as fans have been freaking out over tackle recruiting lately, but there's probably a good chance Jordan slides over there after this season with Prince as the other, then having a lot of these guards fighting it out is a good thing 

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Seattle Linga's picture

Part of me really likes this ...

Part of me wishes we had more depth

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

Hahahahaaa!! so overall, you are a net zero on this comment and subject!  ;)

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Seattle Linga's picture

Come on now Nut you must understand where I am coming from. Kinda makes perfect sense to me 

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stxbuck's picture

Agreed-it is annoying that several classes worth of now-upperclassmen haven't grabbed the bull by the horns so to speak.

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ZMBucks's picture

Whoever provides the most protection is all I care about. Freshmen, 5th year Senior, whoever, just get someone in there that doesn't get beat consistently.

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BornAndBredABuck's picture

100% agree. Production is all that matters.

Put your best five in to start, line your next five up behind them, and let's get it on!

"Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect." -- Woody Hayes

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Wesleyburgess1's picture

"And let's get it on!"?? Sounds more like a Clemson type thing.

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bd2999's picture

Whomever looks the best should start. Important to get those guys reps together and as often as possible. It is one of the reasons you rather see veteran guys in there, but at some point new folks have to be worked in.

OL is an area where there is loads of talent but not much experience it seems.

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Hovenaut's picture

The picture of Josh Myers throwing a "man" is misleading...

Again, prefer an upperclassman to figure it out and earn a spot, but if youth is served then so be it.

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BuckeyeRy4's picture

Caption reads, "What have you done to my boy?!?!"

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Hovenaut's picture

Scroll over the pic for bonus material...

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

If Davis outshines veterans he should start, but it would be great if a veteran stepped up. Haven't we heard Urban say something like "Do something!"?

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buckguyfan1's picture

This should be the strength of the Buckeye offense.  Shouldn't it?

Simplify...

12-0 and a chance to go 13-0

In another universe ttun still sucks...

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

Brute strength and reps on the bench press aren't enough. Have all the Slobs dance the tango with a (preferably female) partner; best footwork wins a starting job.

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

Bingo, BC. I also like Al Pacino's version in Scent of a Woman.

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

Rumor has it that you're an aficionado of the tango. I'm a flatfoot, but admire the dance.

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Blackcoffee's picture

love the music of this, makes me think of some distant land

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hetuck's picture

There are seven upper class candidates already. I'm most concerned about backup center, both for this year and someone to carry on the Rimington tradition next season. Hopefully Taylor or Wohlabaugh step up. 

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allinosu's picture

Taylor is one of my favorites. He played in 11 games and did a very good job. No bad snaps and only once was his responsibility involved in the play. I personally think he would be better than Price buy seniority wins the day.

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BornNbredAthensBuckeye's picture

Ridiculous, if he was better than Price, Price would just stay at guard.

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allinosu's picture

Center is where Price has a better chance in the NFL. Center is where a captain calling line plays is and Urban favors that young man. I go back every game and watch line play and Price makes more mistakes (especially on stunts although greatly improved from the year before). Taylor has some injuries in key situations which I think led to him being where he is at.

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Brutus865's picture

There have been serious misses in oline recruiting/development if these guys can come in and start.

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LB U's picture

Urban himself said there had been alot of misses prior to the '17 class.

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BuCkIfReAk's picture

not misses..   the numbers just haven't been there...   not just the elite ranking, but sheer numbers... since Meyer arrived its the only unit that hasn't stockpiled.. 

     plus, these guys, like the article says, are more physically ready to play than the usual elite4/5 star OL recruits..   not much development in terms of strength, already big boys..    road-graters...    

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RKC's picture

I'm barely 5'8" and am no way experienced at playing on either offensive or defensive lines.  I did grow up playing sports though and I know the closer you are in contact and line up from your opponent the more trash-talking there is.  All the guys on our roster are plenty big and strong.  I assume over the years of coaching, they learn footwork and where to put their hands for leverage, etc.  

Do you think there's any element of how to trash-talk or more importantly, how to handle trash-talking when you play on the lines.  I ask b/c OSU's incoming freshman seem physically talented but they'll be facing some guys that have been in college honing their trash-talking skills just as much as their football skills.  It could make a difference with confidence in the the 4th quarter when things are tight.  And if you think it could make a difference, would you want a seasoned 2nd or 3rd year guy on the line?  Or is there just that much of a talent gap there?   

Just another off-season query from Chicago.  

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BornAndBredABuck's picture

Trash-talking is for the little guys on the outside, who are mostly waltzing with each other all night. The big guys inside are in a fistfight every twenty seconds or so and are mostly trying to catch their breath.

"Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect." -- Woody Hayes

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RKC's picture

This does make a lot of sense as well.  Thanks.

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cdub4's picture

What he said^^^. Most people say the further away you are from the football (center) the more trash talk you hear.

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stxbuck's picture

Honest answer-the way to handle trash talking is A-start to dominate them-that will shut them up or B-Stuff happens in the pile. Nuff' said.

Players talk trash at all levels-if a frosh can handle himself physically playbook wise on the field, trash talking is nothing new.

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CowCat's picture

Offensive Linemen don't do a lot of trash talking, but they do other things to get in the heads of the opponent.

There was an OSU OL from the Tressel era (can't remember which) who said they would make a point of getting to the line of scrimmage quickly late in games because it sent a psychological message to the opponent that they were fresh and ready to pound the ball -- even though really they were physically just as tired as the opponent.

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DownEastBuck's picture

As a former D lineman it was my experience that there was not as much trash talk but a whole lot more of trying to physically dominate the man in front of you and if possible cause him so much pain he doesn't want to hit you anymore. My best friend who was our offensive tackle always found away to hit the guy across from him in the throat, I always liked grabbing the bottom of the shoulder pads to were I was choking you but always had control of you. The best trash talk was calling out the play if it was something that you had picked up in film study or through the game. And anything was fair game in the bottom of a pile.

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Iwearmocs's picture

Boy, I hope not.  Jordan was acceptable last year, but other then QB, OL is the most difficult position for a freshman to come in and start.  Our line needs to be better then last year, and if Burrel/pridgeon/knox gets beat out by a true freshman again something has gone really wrong.

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Oldschoolbuck's picture

Not if the true freshman turns out to be another Orlando Pace. 

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Iwearmocs's picture

Odds are none of our guys will be first ballot hall of famers. Michael Jordan isn't Orlando Pace either.

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buckeyenut74's picture

If he, or any freshman for that matter, is that good,  play them. 

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

I still think our biggest problem last year we were just too young and inexperienced at 2 key positions, LG and RT. I have to hold out hope both Jordan and Prince have improved. I think that can be said of almost the entire offense. Experience breeds confidence. Looking forward to seeing The Slobs return.

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hetuck's picture

Think of Decker's improvement. Turnstile is overused, but his start was inauspicious. 

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wyatt's picture

I'm most concerned about the RT position. They got us J.T. killed last year against Penn State and Clemson.

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IronPastor's picture

I wouldn't be shocked to see Myers at RT if needed this year, depending on what Prince does...who knows.

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GoBuckeyes1020's picture

I think I'll be asking you for prayers if that happens. Myers appears to be a ways away from being a college ready guard let alone a tackle. The overall lack of tackles on the roster amazes me.

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BuCkIfReAk's picture

yea, based on what stud said the last couple of days, his pass-blocking isn't close...   back-up guard...   maybe 3 -deep..

G's:

Jordan

Pridgeon

Burrell 1rst-in

Knox 2nd-in

Myers 3rd

Davis 4rth

Next year, who knows? COuld be literally any position in '18. He'll get some mop-up duty, but as good as these young OL are, they're not cracking the two-deep to start the season. I do think Myers could pass knox by BiGplay though.

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

"With the way things are shaking out, and those three talented candidates on the roster, it seems entirely possible that a true freshman will win a starting spot on Ohio State's offensive line for the second-straight season, and Meyer – while acknowledging it's a rare outcome – would be ready and willing to make that call."

Wyatt Davis seems to be the fit here even tho a freshman. Let him move the pile forward.

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IronPastor's picture

I think Wyatt Davis is college ready at OG....I think Myers is more of a true Tackle and could plug in there if needed this year.  I think these three will be anchors on the line for the next few years.

Let's go Bucks!

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stxbuck's picture

Josh has excellent feet and is a smart kid, I think he will pick up the pass protection nuances fairly quickly and eventually play outside.

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

Studrawa is under the microscope this year. No more excuses. Develop or develop your exit plan.

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CTownBucknut's picture

As long as a true Freshman is starting because he simply was too good to pass up, rather than out of desperation, because no veteran looked capable, I'm all for it.  Given the quality of the incoming Freshman, I have no doubt that would be the case.  

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Trebor40's picture

We need all of these young men to advance significantly. The most telling moment regarding offensive line play to me was the injury to Jordan in the Clemson game and our complete inability to send a healthy functional replacement out there. As a comparison of development injury to Boren against Bama, Elflein slides over in comes Chase Farris crushing running play TD!!!!! We need this to be true at all times for tOSU particularly in the Meyer system.  

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CowCat's picture

Agreed. We need multiple players who can play multiple positions competently at any time in a big game. We especially need a second good center in case Billy Price gets injured.

This year will be the test for coach Studrawa.

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Chartman's picture

I honestly believe Matt Burrell has this position locked up.  He has had all the talent in the world since been recruited here but didn't get off to the right track as he got stuck in the party life too much.  Seeing the body transformation, I am excited to see how he turns out.  That being said, the competition will only breed depth and more quality but in the end it is going to be Burrell

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bonebuck's picture

Our 3rd best OL recruit is only ranked 287 nationally!!! Come on Urban. Your recruiting sucks. LOL

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BuCkIfReAk's picture

i know you're having fun with that, but Munford would have been much higher given different circumstances...     played 3 games last season...   looked really good doing-it too.     Plus, even with Myers and Davis getting all the hype, Meyer seems to default to mentioning Thayer a lot. Past has shown that those little verbal nods mean a lot..    Which is also why I think Dixon has moved ahead of Hill at WR. 

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GlassCityBuckeyes's picture

Long as its not JB shugarts in disguise we should be ok

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BuCkIfReAk's picture

I've always thought Pridgeon would be the favorite despite his "tackle-dimensions"..   he looked great last year in camp and was primed to play a lot or start, so It's hard for me to imagine him not being the fave for the spot..  he's a great combination of size and agility... he plays with good pad level to offset the height..   Burrell the first Guard in, Davis the 2nd, and Knox the third. Knox was in cement against Clemson. He just can't get off the ball and imo lacks the agility to start.  Of course, I think they should take some good hard looks at Pridgeon over Prince and then Burrell would defo start at g. If Bowen is the first tackle-in, then Pridgeon is without question the next best option there.

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