Win 900 will hopefully be the first CFP game as Ohio State marches towards national title number 9. Go Buckeyes!
The math on this seems off. The author is forgetting the BIG championship game. So as much as I want the Bucks to win a national title, going 12-0 in the regular season, winning the BIG title game and winning the first round of the playoffs will do it. Lots of options to make it to 900 this year. Go Bucks!
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Yeah I guess we just get a pass for the conference championship?
He said we would need to win no fewer then 12 games entering the playoffs. Which means at least an 11-1 regular season + B1G Championship.
No, I'm accounting for it. I said it's unlikely Ohio State makes the CFP with fewer than 12 wins, that includes the B1G title game. I'm allowing for one regular-season loss in my calculations, but they could go undefeated.
We would be 2 wins away from 900 without vacating the 2010 results.
If you will it dude, it is no dream
Anyone know how many wins PSU had vacated?
Well obviously selling your personal items is a sin much graver than what happened in Happy Valley...
I think I'm gonna vomit
NCAA sanctions committee is deplorable
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I think I see the sarcasm font ... but in case enquiring minds want to know:
Link is to SI because I don't want to direct traffic to ESPN. Maybe Gene needs to find a lawyer to reinstate Tressel's wins.
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Since every college program has played a different amount of total games, the best way to compare programs is winning percentage not total wins- IMHO...
Having said that, 900 wins is not too shabby.
That would be more true if half of TTUN's wins before 1910 didn't come against YMCA teams..
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And High Schools and Teachers Colleges.
They should be embarrassed. Sadly, they are not.
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But, but... That's the Bitchigan way!
From Wikipedia (gosh I hope this is true, tell me there really was a Princess football team of Detroit!):
In March 1885, the Princess football team of Detroit challenged Michigan to a football game on roller skates to be played at a roller rink in Ann Arbor. In mid-March 1885, The Michigan Argonaut reported: "The Rugby team are [sic] now practicing football on rollers." The two teams ultimately met on April 3, 1885, for a Friday night game "on rollers" at the Palace Rink. The Wolverines defeated the Princess team "in two straight innings." The game is not recorded as an official game in Michigan's football records.
Playing on roller skates may be their solution this year, better yet, we'll give them the modern day advantage of hover boards.
Careful casting those stones. OSU has 'Dayton YMCA' in the record books as well. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1892_Ohio_State_Buckeyes_football_team
And three games in one season vs. Ohio Medical. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1896_Ohio_State_Buckeyes_football_team
TTUN was also playing Harvard and Yale (national championship teams in those days) during that period. Not saying they don't have a HS team in the books (I've found one), but they also played a lot more out of state competition than the Buckeyes did prior to the Western Conference being formed. OSU mainly played teams like Kenyon, Oberlin, Case, etc.
Counting wins prior to Theodore Roosevelt cleaning up college football is just bad statistics. It's not even the same sport.
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Dayton YMCA just sounds tougher than Detroit City Roller Princesses.
Time to rearrange that order
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
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On the Wiki page for Ohio State football it says we have a 7.24 winning %, but that list says we have a 7.08 winning %?
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Interestingly a year or so ago I was looking this stuff up myself but i eventually gave it up because every source i checked with had different win totals and percentages for almost every team. It's next to impossible to know which source is completely accurate.
It's buried somewhere in the OSU archives
@ Travicols - This is the best site I've found so far, but admittedly I haven't looked that hard.
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Goals: Beat Michigan. Win the B1G East. Beat Michigan. Win the B1G CG. Beat Michigan. Win a Natty. Beat Michigan.
There are so many different numbers around for every school it's hard to figure out what is right and/or official. Also, that list on Wikipedia counts ties as half a win in the calculation, which is weird as hell, but I went with it.
Half of a win for a tie is mathematically right, but the winning percentages on the Wikipedia are mathematically incorrect. Assuming they have the records right, Texas' winning percentage is .707 and OSU's is .724. Bama's is close, but should be .721. The others are correct.
It says 72.4% and 70.8%
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Total wins don't really matter much to me. Different teams, different eras. TTUN was beating up on glorified junior college teams when your great-grandmother was alive.
I just want to surpass TTUN in The Game.
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I know it sounds like a lot, but 20 more years of us winning 2-3 more games than *ichigan and we will be ahead of them overall.
"Woody would have wanted it that way"
Right before that happens, ttun will start to count inter-squad scrimmages as victories too.
I know schools that have vacated wins before have gone back and reclaimed them. Auburn and Penn St. come to mind.
Since Gene Smith volunteered to wipe Ohio State's 2010 season away without the NCAA asking him to, I want them back!
After Woody's statue goes up, maybe 11W should start a legal fund to sue the NCAA and get them back!
Justice for Tressel and the 2010 team
Would we need lawyer? I don't think OSU needs to sue the NCAA over this, because the NCAA didn't include this as part of the punishment. Gene volunteered to do it.
Then I say, take 'em back.
That team earned them. And they earned the gold pants. Several pairs of them.
Gene volunteered those wins away to be vacated...
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So in reality we need 2. The game vs Oklahoma will be number 900 and there had better be some mention of that in the stadium, there most certainly will be on the broadcast, because most media outlets do not recognize the NCAA's little pretend magic eraser wand.
The real question is this - what will happen first - we pass M in the series, or in all time wins? Both will happen in my lifetime (and I'm not exactly young).
MSU is handling their business so much better than Baylor ever did. It's night and day.
The only way they let go of Dantonio is if he loses the team and then I could see them coming for Schiano.
Michigan State is beneath Chip Kelly and his style wouldn't survive in the big ten anyway. He should take the UCLA job if he can.
Wrong thread dude
The best statistical database I've found is football.stassen.com. All time we have the 3rd highest winning% behind scuM and the Domers. You can break down all teams for any time frame between 1869-present and it takes into account the vacated win season of 2011. For example, since 1950, our Bucks have the 2nd best winning percentage for FBS teams behind Boise State. 1960 to present, we have the best %. To me, that's the modern era and doesn't take into account all those "wins" scUM had before Teddy Roosevelt was President...
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According to sports-reference.com, the Bucks started football full-time in 1913 having played only the 1904 season prior to then. They finished the 1904 season with 6 wins. Michigan prior to 1913 had already accumulated 160 wins.
That site is very incomplete. They only start with "major conference" play - OSU's first season in the B1G was 1912. They also only start their data at all in 1904. OSU's first season was 1890, and I think we only played 3 or 4 games that year, but pretty much every year after that we were playing a full schedule relative to the time period.
I really miss the CFBDW which was the most comprehensive database for every team in the country. Sadly, they went offline in March.
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Undefeated National Championship this year seals the + 900 mark. All success until further notice. Go Buckeye team.
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Offseason math makes sense.
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
900 would be nice...beating TTUN to 1000 would be priceless.
The NCAA doesn't recognize our true win record. Fuck'em.
Go Bucks! TTUN tears are best! Beat Wisky!!!
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If not for G. Smith, the Buckeyes would be playing for #900 in September. Also, if not for Ohio State playing 1 game less each year than other teams in the 50s, 60s, & 70s (9 in 50s & 60s and 10 in 70s), the Buckeyes might already be past 900. Maybe even ahead of that community college team up north. Still, I will be sitting here in the Brutus Cave this fall watching as they charge towards #900.
Sorry NCAA, but I am not vacating the wins in the 2010 season. In my book, the victories over Indiana and Oklahoma will put us at 900 wins. Does anyone know if we have any "vacated" wins credited to our win total?
When you say "vacated wins credited to our win total" are you asking about a game that we lost on the field but count as a win because the other team had to vacate? If that is the case, then no - vacating is not forfeiting. The NCAA thinks they have a magic eraser where they pretend that the game didn't exist - for one team only. So if you look at our "NCAA official" record, for instance, it will show that we have never played Arkansas in our history. But if you look at Arkansas's history you will see that their official, NCAA-recognized, record against OSU os 0-1. It's a total farce and I don't pay any attention to games they try to pretend didn't exist - for any program, not just ours.
There are no such things as "vacated wins". The NCAA doesn't control the truth or reality.
The Buckeyes' win percentage is .724 not .708. Wikipedia had a mistake that has been fixed.
I ain't no mathematician but these winning percentages seem to be all over the place. Ohio State's record is 886-322-53 over 1,278 games for a .724 winning percentage. Texas's record is 891-359-33 over 1,283 games for a .723 winning precentage. In other words, Texas has played five more games and won five more games but it also lost 37 more games than Ohio State and yet its winning percentage is somehow only .001 less. Even on the surface that doesn't seem right.
What am I missing?
EDIT: Just saw Profpain11's post. That helps explain my confusion. Wikipedia--it's right 90% of the time and wrong the other half (apologies to Yogi Berra).
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Accolades to author Kevin Harrish for not withholding key info about other schools nearing 900 wins. There are several that, like Ohio State, will be over 900 within a couple of years. It's not that big a deal, all winning programs started playing football about the turn of the century and so are in the same boat.
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886 + 322 + 53 = 1261 not 1278
Not too sure we should be using these stats as definitive
yeah the table is quite messed up
While that still means Texas would have to exceed expectations, winning 1.5 more games more than projected does not seem out of the realm of possibility for Tom Herman.
All he does is exceed expectations. You know, being a MENSA member and all.
Ohio State wins games every year. *ichigan wins games every year. The Buckeyes have been slowly closing this gap for a while now - but what I love the most are the games that are an L in their book - and a W in ours. These do the most damage.
Let's make it 6-0 Urban !
It's 12:24 am - and _ichigan still sucks...................
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