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This is so freaking awesome. I want to get excited but I dont want to be disappointed if this isn't true. It'll be so nice to not have an offensive offense!
I've been on this site since the horrible news broke about Tatgate up until today. You've been spot on and I'm happy to say I jumped on the 11w wagon long ago.
I've been educating some fools for over a year that for info they need to add you on twitter, fb and visit this site. Keep up the good work.
No, thank you...I have loved this site since I found it. Bucknuts went down the tubes to be honest and The O-Zone is still sweet, but this site is spot on.
Keep up all the good work.
I second this. I have been coming to the site for quite a while now, not sure exactly how many years, but it have enjoyed it this whole time. Seems like the last year or so you guys are finally getting recognized and the site has really exploded in popularity. I think the success of eat 2 brutus from year one to year 2 shows that as well. Anyway, great job guys(and girls)!
I'd like to be the first (in this thread, at least) to thank Coach Fickell for taking on a thankLESS job this year, regardless of the outcome.
To the players: There is absolutely NOTHING to lose; leave it all on the field. And thanks to you too.
+10000 after everything...i'm thankful for Fickell this year. yeah i said it
"It's so easy to be average...to HELL WITH THAT" - Urban Meyer
They're all chickens. The rooster has sex with all of them.
Luke played good soldier all year and never made excuses for what transpired around him. Some guys are great second's in command, Luke might be the Buddy Ryan to Urban's Mike Ditka.
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I hope Luke stays.
There's a lot of truth to that. Millions of people are great in a "second chair" supporting role, but that doesn't make them ready for the head job. Scottie Pippen is a classic example of this phenomenon in sports. He was one of the best #2 players of his time to MJ. When Jordan retired, it was assumed that Pippen for sure was ready to take on being top man on a roster. Didn't work out so well for him. He was criticized for it because people didn't realize it was just not his role. Since Fickell seems to want to be a HC, I hope I'm wrong and he catches on and really develops into a great one. But there are many coordinators in sports that are great at just that. Think about Charlie Weis. Same thing.
"Woody would have wanted it that way"
How is that "strategic advantage" thing working for him this year as a coordinator?
Lets hope very reliable
About as reliable as it gets
YES! BRING A REAL OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR WITH YOU! (ALSO KEEP FICKELL FOR D)
everybody...relax...let's not look stupid yet. I want this to be announced before i get a diddly daddly like a little school girl and get fired for streaking at my place of work. If this guy doesn't have the most reliable of information, he is going to look like a jackass
So now can we stop screaming for Ohio State to turn down a bowl game?
Who is blue, fast and likes rangs? The Dankey Kang.
There's been a lot of people saying that moving this early, even if we only know about it via leaks, is extremely disrespectful to Luke. The question I have is, isn't it possible that Luke has actually been a part of the attempt to bring Urban here from the start with Luke staying on staff?
i don't think there was any way he WASN'T a part of this
Lets hope so, it would be a shame if Luke was forgotten in all of this...i have a feeling he will be kept on as DC though...he certainly deserves it
Agreed. He could be the DC and have time to ease back into the HC job once Urban wins two NC's and decides to retire early again.
Because we couldn't go for three.
I've been thinking about this since last week when it was rumored that Urban would be hired. Maybe Fickell himself felt like he wasn't ready. I've certainly taken on jobs that I may not have been fully qualified for and you just try to manage as best you can until you get the hang of it. I doubt Fickell would have turned down the full time job if offered but maybe he felt like he was in over his head.
I think what you said is painfully obvious when you find out how Luke recruited Adolphus Washington.
If this is true, then I hope Urban keeps Fickell as a defensive coordinator or assistant D coach. Show the door to Bollman immediately after announcement of Meyer is done.
A Grey Box of Goodness. They really do exist. I hope this guy is for real and we aren't being set up for a fall. Is anyone "reliable" saying anything about this?
“Ain’t life grand when you finally hit it!” DLR
Get Hooley on the phone, he's as reliable as they get. /endscathingsarcasm.
I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..
Bill Greene is the definition of reliable
Pardon my ignorance, but who is he?
Scout analyst and Insider for Ohio State's Scout site
Can he call plays this weekend?
not sure the source but my dad emailed me this!
ERIC WETLI (BUCKALUM09)
Posted: Today 7:10 AM Urban- Done Deal ________________________________________ Info confirmed yesterday. - Netjets flew Meyer up on Thursday. - Deal done. 7 years - 40 million - Luke fickell retained as Asst. Head Coach - in fact he was involved in recruiting Meyer - Greg Studwara - Offensive Coordinator - BGSU connection, currently OLine coach LSU - DJ Durkin - Defensive Coordinator - FL LB Coach - Zach Smith - WR Coach - G.A. FL - WR Coach Temple (Earle Bruce grandson) - Mickey Marotti - Dir Football Ops - Strength coach FL - Stan Drayton - retained by OSU - moves from WRs back to RB coach - RB coach FL Job opening will be posted Monday/Tuesday as per State/Federal regulations - announcement Week from Tuesday @ OSU v. Duke Less certain, but likely that Gene Smith will be re-assigned as SID. Now, I am going to assume that Bruce's grandson is going to be on staff due the fact that the meeting took place at Bruce's house where Luke Fickell was present and helped recruit Meyer.
Seems a little too detailed to not contain some accuracies. I would like to see Luke stay on in some capacity, regardless though.
Vrabel as well..kind of overlooked him throughout all of this. So much focus on Luke, so he was the first to come to mind.
haha..i wasn't stating that to you..i was just looking for some kind of info on vrabel..my bad
I don't really think he would be that big of a loss. Whether it is his fault or not, his unit has vastly underpreformed this year
His unit is rarely in position to make a play. Whomever takes his place will be an upgrade.
Class of 2008
State Regulations say that jobs have to be posted for 9 days before filled. OSU vs. Duke is only 7 days away. Secondly, this would really step on Matta's and the Third ranked BB Teams toes to be upstaged on their own floor. Everything else seems capable.
Marc Gliver over at BuckeyeGrove says he spoke to someone that said there may be a loophole to that law.
Please, be honest. This is for science.
Aslo there is "posted" and then there is, posted. Just because you can't find it, doesn't mean it is in the state of being posted right this second.
I feel like that would bring some serious energy/excitement to the crowd AND the team
You may be right, but if the BBallers beat Duke then they are automatically a page two story and not front page news. I just hope they ask the guys if it is ok before hand and not cause any hard feelings between the two programs.
Absolutely, the place would come off the chain at that announcement and create even more synergy for the bball game.
I don't t hink it's any shock that basketball is 2nd fiddle at the OSU. Imagine how insane the crowd will be after such announcement is made. Tress fired up the basketball folks during his halftime speech. I think Matta would appreciate anything that's going to have Value City Arena rocking when a foe like Duke is coming to visit.
But with the BB team ranked 3rd and the foosball team not so much it would be nice to let the team shine on its own merits. The Schott will be rockin' anyway with the Poo Devils in da house. It's not like they are playing a no name team. It could be a distraction for the team that maybe un wanted.
I see both side of this. It could be win-win for all involved.
I agree, I wouldn't want to step on any toes, I just don't think it will I guess is what I'm saying. We saw late winter early spring the basketball team got a lot of love and that was with all the controversy surrounding the football team.
I don't care what the BB team's ranking is, OSU is a football school. Always will be. I doubt that Matta would mind.
The fact that we can put 105,000+ into the shoe but less than 15K into the Schott is a testament to it, even with a top 3 BB team
If you are talking about last night's game, I feel like that is an unfair comparison. For one, the basketball schedule includes many more games, so each one individually does not hold the same importance that a football game does (there are normally only anywhere from 5-8 home games in a given season). However, there are 20 home basketball games this year. And especially early on, the majority of them are against patsies. Factor in that last night's game was on a Monday night and didn't start until 8:30PM and it's pretty easy to see why it was poorly attended.
I'm not disagreeing that tOSU is first and foremost a football school, just your rationale.
We didn't sell out for Florida.
I've received that email three times today. You know how you know it's fishy? Because it says Smith will go from AD to SID. That's like going from CEO to department head. Not in a million years.
Not saying there aren't some nuggets in there, but take it with a grain of salt.
Urban does not like Gene based on how Tressel was treated. I have a few connections back in Utah and have heard (with a grain of salt) that Urban would not take the job with Gene at the helm.
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Greg Studwara is actually the LSU OC. He took over for Steve Kragthorpe last August when he was diagnosed with Parkinsons.
That sound you heard was Brady Hoke having his first non bacon induced heart attack up in Ann Arbor.
I just hope to Brutus that they don't gut the defensive staff. And that Urban does a better job of keeping kids out of trouble than he did in Florida.
Can't say that I really like the hire, but he'll be successful.
Dear Urban: Keep the program clean. Thanks in advance.
Priority #1: Beat Michigan
Says the guy with Keef Richards as his avatar;)
Even Keef cleaned it up after a few decades. For the most part.
So much this. That's been my concern all along.
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Apparently Urban has a history of great relations with the NCAA and being a model of compliance
Compliance is worthless. I mean arrests.
Yes, his players' problems seem to be with the law, not the NCAA
I positively cannot take another year like this past year. It will kill me. And I'm not referring to the losses... tough seasons will happen form time to time, even to the best programs.
Not popping the champagne until the official announcement, but I'm certainly buying the bottle now.
Yeah...how concerned should I be that there is no mention of this on eSPIN or Scout, itself?
Bill Greene has already been on sports radio in Cleveland today openly talking about it as fact. He says it is based on two sources in the program. This is per an article on a Cleveland news site.
Even the Washington Post has picked up this story.
Wonder how many quick (next couple of weeks) committments this will get us?
My office officially thinks I'm insane due to my reaction upon reading this.
Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.
You are insane, but you are in good company:)
Greg Jennings "I put my team on my back"
That sums it up right thurr
Ya know, ESPN did a round table about what needs to be done to clean up college football and Urban Meyer said, get rid of the notion of secondary infractions. The notion of a violation being ok is just absurd. Saban was sitting next to him and to me it was clear he was directing that right at Nick Saban. Saban gave some, Urban is absolutely correct answer. Anyway, it's clear to me that Urban takes NCAA infractions of any kind very seriously.
As for the off field stuff, it's my opinion that he did recruit some kids with questionable backgrounds, but a lot of these kids fall into that category. The kicker is in Florida a lot of them were close to bad influences. Jamal Berry at Ohio State has found some trouble, but I think it would've been much worse had he stayed in Florida. When you remove kids with a sketchy background from the environment where they can get in trouble, they are less likely to get in trouble.
Urban coming home....yes!!
Is this real life?
It's just fantasy
What are you doing to that poor cat, Jason?
Hotlinking is serious business.
I heard there was a rumor about Eddie George being the running backs coach. Any truth to this? The source didn't seem very reliable.
I also heard that John Cooper's daughter would be coming on as the team's new athletic trainer. Any truth to this?
darren sharper, one of the hardest hitting safeties in the league
Hazy rumor that a certain FL based internet poster is being tapped as a special replay consultant. It will be my his job to yell at the TV when the refs screw up a call and tweeting play calls to @CoachUrbanMeyer.
Jim Tressel actually is being brought on on as a special replay consultant. He's leaving his current position with the Indianapolis Colts to return to the Shoe.
Jim is welcome to join me on the couch in the booth.
pat shurmur is going to become the new cheerleaders coach
I'm not really Shurmur, but I think that rumor is false
While it is true Eddie flies a lot between Cbus and Nashville. I fist bumped Eddie at the airport Monday night congratulating him on his award a few weeks ago. Did not ask him about the Meyer situation but this was just on Monday night. I work at the airport, so I'd know if I see anyone related to OSU coming through.
I am always of the opinion "I'll believe it when I see it" especially since Herbie tanked on the whole Leslie to scUM debacle....BUT......If this turns out to be true then....
GREAT GOOGLY MOOGLY!!!
Once again, 11w proves it's worth. Nothing about this on ESECPN yet. Thanks for breaking the story! Let's all hope it's true!
I'm going to enjoy reading tweets from Gator fans crying over the fact that their super hot ex girlfriend moved on. She was out of your league anyway bro.
Great news! Now OSU needs to open up the checkbook and let Urban pick/retain whatever assistant coaches he wants. My only fear with Urban will be the burnout problem. The more he can delegate to his staff the better.
I don't trust anythign this yahoo says but if there is any truth to Brooks' article from last week, we won't have much trouble recruiting from anywhere in the country... Herbie as QB coach just seems like too much of a stretch.
I'm not really sure we'd even want him as a QB coach.
Not speculating on whether there is any truth to Herbie coming here, but why is it assumed they he couldn't coach? An athlete's performance on the field is as much because of their pure innate athleticism and skill as it is coaching: just because he wasn't the greatest quarterback OSU has ever had doesn't mean he couldn't coach one well. Is it not at all possible that he understands fundamentals well and knows how to teach them?
Seems to me that guys who were superstars rarely translate to great coaches anyway. That's not always true, but seems like superstar players rarely become superstar coaches.
Lest we forget Herbie was never really a "superstar", more like an average to good QB who went on to have a fantastic career at the next level...in the broadcast booth.
I'm sure the options would be limitless for a QB coach. Why not take advantage of our position being Ohio State and bring someone in with proven experience. We're starting to talk up a coaching staff that equates to the hype generated by the Miami Heat or Philadelphia Eagles. I know it's not directly the same, but still bringing in all these high profile names, not really sure that's a given formula for success. I'd take proven quality any day than a possible distraction.
I could be wrong, but wouldn't the number of proven QB coaches be relatively small? If the QB coach is that good don't they generally get elevated?
Before this goes farther, I just want to say I could care less if Herbie comes in as QB coach. If Urban thinks it is a good idea, I would assume he knows what he is talking about.
To me Herbie is a full on traitor
I don't want to see him anywhere near Ohio Stadium.
May seem harsh, but the way he whitewashed the Cam Newton issue then totally through the team (and the entire state) under the bus after TatGate is unforgivable.
I'm not a big Pryor fan but he was right about Herbie "FAKE ASS BUCKEYE!"
IMO I dont understand the hatred for Herbie. It always seemed to me his beef was more with the Tressel administration & how they did things than with OSU itself. (Plz dont flame me with all the "examples" of Herbie's "traitorous comments"; well aware of them).
Guess I'm willing to overlook a lot of what he says on the WWL b/c well, its his job, & we all know ESPN is sports "entertainment", and I just dont feel its that personal.
On the other hand... to most of America he is THE College football guy. What recruit could resist if HERBIE called?! I'd have him on staff in some capacity just for that alone, and I mean, we've employed an actual real, live Walrus for the last decade or so - how can he be more useless than that?
The Walrus isn't a traitor first of all. I certainly understand the upside of having Herbie on the staff but there is a major difference between "balanced" reporting, and simply making chit up (why he "sold" his house, basically everything that came out of his mouth after thanksgiving 2010). And I'm sorry, a 40 year old millionare thinking he has the right to judge the character of 20 year old amature athletes for selling their own stuff for money is disgusting to me.
Perhaps I'm taking this too far and I don't really know the guy?
Fact: I was invited to his kids' baptism
In short: Kirk Herbstreit is a corporate whore who can burn in hell
"In short: Kirk Herbstreit is a corporate whore who can burn in hell"
Yes....wow. I don't understand people sometimes.
I don't understand how some people can just forget the things he said and did because he may "bring recruits"
tOSU is pretty much a corporation ... I don't think this is in dispute. If he wants to work for us and if he brings tangible benefits with him (which I think he does, at least in recruiting) I could care less what shit he said in his previous job. But of course that's just me.
And I know the Walrus isn't a traitor (or....IS HE?!!!! #CueConspiracyTheories) but my point was that we employed a large flippered aquatic mammal for 10 years, and employing Herbie would be at least as useful as that was. Wasn't endorsing or not endorsing Herbie's character or him as a person (no idea to be honest) ... just saying that from a pure cost-benefit analysis IMO having him on board is a GOOD thing. Just my 2cents.
OSU is not a corporation because it's a land grant college, but that's a different story altogether. This isn't about corporations its about the pople who work for them. Once you play for OSU you are in the family, and you should NEVER turn you back on family. Criticism of family is one thing, joining the other side in throwing out falsehhoods and half-truths is completely different.
What were the falsehoods and half-truths? I hear that all the time but not once have I seen an example of it. What always comes out is that he bitched on the air about things that actually happened at OSU. I don't see why that is problem for some people and makes him a "Fake Buckeye".
read his quotes. then if you do a little research on when his house was actually placed on the market, you'll find this was just a way to throw Ohio State, and the citizens of Ohio under the bus.
I don't see how that supports what you are saying. According to another interview he did, the issues started before the Tatgate scandal with people driving slowly by his house at all hours and freaking out his wife. Let me say that again... he decided to move before the Tatgate scandal.
Here is perhaps a more measured look at what I've been trying to get across. And I strongly suggest you read the Cowherd interview.
I don't know how anyome (no matter how much you hate Pryor) can support this kind of verbiage towards an amature athlete.
I just read the Cowherd interview and I don't see any inappropriate verbiage at all... Not even anything marginal or approaching inappropriate. Was it that he referred to Pryor as "selfish and immature"? He was... that was clear before all this happened. I don't see any issue with saying that about a college athlete when they exhibit it all the time. That interview came across to me more as Herbstreit felt sorry for the guy.
you know who is selfish and immature? Pretty much every star division 1 athlete and pretty much every 20 year old I've ever met. Do I wish Pryor were more humble and worked harder? yes. Do I think this gives a guy with a national soapbox the right to call him out for that? You will never convince me of that and it i a huge reason why ESPN is so deplorable to me. People mature more through their 20s than they do through their teens, until that person chooses to become professional and make millions of dollars off of his or her skills and personality, they should be treated like private persons. Agree to disgree
A land grant college, behaving as a de facto corporation. Not a criticism...an observation. And it's not the only one doing it.
let's be honest, if Ohio State acted like a corporation the wouldn't be holding up all those non-revenue generating sports. Ohio State would have a lot more money if they just offered Football basketball and baseball (probably not even baseball). Most colleges are actually not run as corporations because only a very small number (only Ohio State and Texas last time a checked) have athletic departments that consistently come out in the black.
Also not this. The guy has to be balanced and can't play the homer on national TV. In fact I have a feeling he maybe errs a little on the side of being harder on OSU than other teams BUT you have to understand, just about everyone thinks Herbstreit "hates" their school too.
Go watch the 2011 Rose Bowl that we won. You can hear it in Herbstreits voice that he was very happy with the Buckeyes win. HE is the true Buckeye, TPeazy is the fake ass Buckeye.
I'm retty sure Pryor was also elated with winning that game, he is a fake ass buckeye...but that doesn't mean Herbstreit isn't.
We won the national title in 2003 and there is a famous picture of Herbie freaking out with joy. But that didn't prevent him from just two short year later from stating on national television that he didn't want his kids playing for Jim Tressel because of the way the offense looked...TWO YEARS AFTER A NATIONAL TITLE.
What exactly did Herbie ever win? Oh yeah, I forgot ties against Michigan were considered wins in the Cooper era.
I think that everyone of us has a point where we criticise what tOSU is doing, how the players play and act. But, when Herbstreit does it he's a traitor.
He is not our most steadfast supporter nor history's greatest villian.
your missing the point. As fans of the program our general criticism is said under our breath in anger sometimes...it's written in pencil. All of his comments are-by admission-meticulously prepared, and if they are not then he has every opportunity to retract. He had no problem killing us when there was rumors and hearsay about the program (stemming from the SI article) but once most of that article was found to be bs...where was he? He had no problem with the "let's wait and see" approach with Cam Newton...where was our wait and see? Did the words "Ohio State has a proud tradition of sel-reporting violations unlike th vst majority of other Universities" ever come out of his mouth? He acted like Yahoo broke that story along with everyone else at that network.
And I'm sorry, openly disparaging an amature athete's character on national television and radio is absolutely abhorrent...I don't care how much Pryor may have deserved it. It sets a terrible precedent for young athletes.
If you are calling a 20 year old athlete selfish...you better mean he's a selfish football player, not person.
Pryor helped set the stage for the winningest coach in school history to lose his dream job. Pryor is as selfish as they come. Wait, he apologized. All good.
and Tressel is free of blame, why?
I don't think he said Tressel was free of blame.
"I'm Willie Buckets, and I approve this message"
Pryors act--yes, selfish--would have tanked our shot at a national title...it did not "set the stage" for Tressel's resignation...Tressel did that all by himself.
And yes, it hurts me write that.
btw, Jim Tressel is not the winningest coach is school history
By .061% that is techincally true. How many people can even name that coach without googling?
We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)
when people use the word "winningest", it usually refers to number of wins, not winning percentage.
Every evil bone in my body would've loved to watch Auburn and Scam Newton go down in flames, in an equivilant roasting as Ohio State's. Common sense says Auburn paid more than $180,000, but the difference between them and us is they left no evidence. If Herbie were to crucify them without "facts" or "evidence", then thats just poor reporting. Maybe he wanted to, but couldn't.
Hopefully that sheds some light?
please...it has been established fact that Cam Newton asked for money, and they found the bagman. Sure this all happened at Miss St. but it doesnt change the fact that Cam was ineligible. This used to plenty of evidence for the NCAA, just not last year.
You think other analysts don't show love to their alma maters? Ever heard of Des Howard? Herbie trying to be "objective" is a crock of shit. Instead of defending his alma mater, he took great pride in fanning the flames!
THANK YOU! finally someone without short term memory loss
Like espin is known for their objectivity....funny.
Not trying to completely defend Herbie and absolve him of any wrongdoing, but his objectivity (at least relative to his colleagues) is part of what sets him apart from and above the rest. People can actually take him seriously because he's not a complete homer, unlike Des, Lou Holtz, Mark May, etc
One thing about Herbie that always seems to be mentioned is how hard he works and how obsessed he is with making sure he is well prepared for his broadcasts. If he brought that same work ethic and attention to detail to coaching, I absolutely think he'd be a successful coach.
I really dont think Herbie is coming to OSU as a coach. He was on the Herb yesteday and emphatically said he was not leaving ESPN/College Game Day. I would imagine he would also have to take a major major pay cut to coach at OSU. I love Herbie but I dont how good of coach he would be...this being his first gig as one. But who knows what will happen.
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I couldn't possibly love one comment in that video any more:
"Whether you are an OFFENSIVE LINEMAN or defensive lineman you better be able to run". Can't wait for Urban Meyer to not recruit slow, fatasses on the O line.
There is no way any other positions are seriously being discussed without Urban actually signing the contract yet. I only threw the Eddie George thing out there to get a rise out of Chis (but he seems to be playing the media safe route of ignoring it).
Interesting comments. My observations:
I was a little surprised this last weekend that the Urban rumors were not greeted with enthusiasm in the venues I visited. (this was my first trip back to Columbus this year.) There are still a lot of people who are bitter about the NC game. And, for what it is worth, the Florida alums who were in C-bus for the game (yeah, there are a lot of them) were trumpeting many Gator fans' concerns about him leaving the cupboard bare for Maushaump. Seems Urban is not revered by everyone in FL.
The post above about his comments concerning secondary violations perhaps sheds a bit more light on the recruiting front. The round table he was at had Saban in attendance, and as stated above, those comments seemed to be directed at Saban. I know that FL had players in trouble with the law, but there did not seem to be any NCAA troubles while he was there. This most likely means that he was a clean recruiter/coach. And, it is difficult to compete for recruits in a league where most teams turn a blind eye toward potential violations (looking at you Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ark). That would go a long way to explain the bad feelings about Urban's recruiting.
Now the opportunity to coach in the B1G has presented itself. And, no, the B1G is not squeaky clean, but for the most part they have competed evenly against one another in recruiting (shadowy deals and oversigning do exist, but nowhere near the extreme it happens in the SEC). This opportunity is most likely too good for Urban to resist.
I can easily support his hire, but I will admit that I am not jumping for joy. This is, after all, just a coaching job, and anything can happen. Having Urban on board is no guarantee of future success/championships. What I hope for most is a quality leader who will run a clean program. If he can deliver that he will have my whole hearted support, win or lose. (And, I truly expect he will win a lot more than he loses).
Florida fans are acting like bitches. I have read some really crazy crap about the cupboard being bare and even that Meyer's agent reached out to OSU as soon as the Tatgate story broke. Florida folks are officially grasping at straws and just downright pissed.
It reminds me a lot of the Kansas fans when Roy left for UNC.
In the end you can't blame someone for going home. FL fans need to get over themselves and realize that is what Meyer is doing. They were blessed to have him for a while, but he is coming home.
And LOL to the cupboard being bare. If everything had gone according to his plan (yes I know it didnt ... but) Meyer wouldve been following Tebow with ... CAM F*CKING NEWTON. Think about that for a second. 1 title with a future NFL washout in Leak, another one with 2time Heisman winner (ughh...but still) Time tebow ... then Cam Newton ... who single -handidly lugged a 7 win Auburn outfit all the way to the chip last year. Meyer had everything in place, things just didnt happen the way that he wanted. I cannot wait to see Braxton's numbers SKYROCKET next season after he's freed of the Walrus Yoke (FINALLY). Miller for Heisman 2013. Not as far-fetched as we think.
Also, UF "fans" (don't see many of them in their half empty SWAMP these days) are not exactly dispassionate bystanders in all this. It's like a crazy ex calling up your current GF and trying to scare them away so they can have you "all to themselvesss" (Creeper voice) .
I wouldn't take anything they said seriously about Urban at this point.
I totally agree... Look at his recruting classes his last 3 years. Maybe Will isn't doing a good job developing the talent.
I wonder what Sharrif Floyd is thinking right now.
Aaaaaaand, Brooks has it on his site.
Wonder who he is going to wine about not giving him credit for "breaking" the story this time.
Everyone. That guy lives to be butthurt.
Power Spread (spread-to-run) football will come to The Shoe, finally. With the talent Tressel has provided for Urban & Co I absolutely can't wait for next season.
I would like to gradulate Corch Urban Meyers on his new job as well. Quick fact check!
That is an elected official.
WOW. How in the world was this woman elected?!?
I know one guy who is upset about this........
This abomination of nature can't possibly be real, can it?
It has all of the Florida stuff photoshopped onto there.
Ohio State's confirmed nonconference opponents in the coming years (http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten):
Sept. 1 -- Miami (Ohio)
Sept. 8 -- Central Florida
Sept. 15 -- California
Sept. 22 -- Alabama-Birmingham
Aug. 31 -- Vanderbilt
Sept. 7 -- Florida A&M
Sept. 14 -- at California
Aug. 30 -- at Navy
Sept. 13 -- Kent State
Sept. 20 -- Virginia Tech
Sept. 27 -- Cincinnati
Sept. 5 -- North Carolina
Sept. 12 -- Northern Illinois
Sept. 19 -- at Virginia Tech
Sept. 3 -- Bowling Green
Sept. 17 -- at Oklahoma
Sept. 16 -- Oklahoma
Sept. 23 -- at North Carolina
Sept. 8 -- Cincinnati
What happened to Tennessee?
the o-zone had an article about it today. because the B1G is going to a 9 game conference schedule (instead of 8) in 2017 or 2018 (can't remember which one) we were forced to drop another out of conference game. not really sure why it had to be Tennessee though
Could it have something to do with Meyer not wanting to play his former rivals?
here it is:
who the hell shit the bed on scheduling 2012? lol
Cal's a good game. The rest, not so much.
looking at that, I had the same question about Tennesee...Cal was orignially dropped off for someone else, who I thought was Tennesee...I remember getting into a debate with a Cal fan who said we were scared to play them...my response was "So we scheduled an SEC team?" Needless to say, no response.
ANYWAYS since I will probably be retired from the Navy, who's down with a road trip to Chapel Hill in September of 2017 for the game???
Great minds think a like, Chief. Of course, I only live about 65 miles from Chapel Hill.
Aesculus excellentium cum MCMLXV.
It is definately a done deal. I have spoken to my connections today and it is consistent with what I heard...including the Duke game for the announcement.
"(And don't forget to visit SPORTSbyBROOKS tomorrow when he'll break the story.)"
He just did.
Someone commented on his 'story' and said kudos to elevenwarriors for breaking the story Thursday and today (with proper credit to Bill Green/Scout.com).
Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.
that was me...he took it down! LAME!!!
Feed the trolls
Ah, this is good news. M fans up here that I have talked with all pound the table with fists on how they are going to crush OSU this year. Not so much passion when I ask how they feel about Meyer. They can sense this may be their best shot for years to come. Damn it feels good to be a Buckeye.
Im holding out hope that OSU exposes *ichigan and shows that their "resurgence" is the result of a soft schedule and an 8 game home schedule(unfortunately that also includes The Game)....I for one am not at all sold on Hoke, it would be great if we could beat him w/o Meyer...in a down year
This news for some reason is making me the most excited I have been for a Michigan game in some time. I feel like the team is going to rise up for Fickell and deliver some pain. Does anyone have a list of the scum recruits/prospects that will be in attendance this saturday?
gents as an avid reader of the site and lover of all you do, i took it upon myself to let Brooks the fraud know who truely broke the story! keep fighting the good fight!!
Pussy Lips Jones will be there from Flint, Michigan. He stated today he is now having a change of heart cause Urbz is making him moist.
YES YES YES YES YES YES
Holy crap that's funny!
People are saying that I'm an alcoholic, and that's not true, because I only drink when I work, and I'm a workaholic.
Love seeing eleven warriors being referred to more and more, including just now on 10tv in relation to Urban Meyer.
Wasn't around for the days when there were two people commenting to one another on what they just wrote but baby has grown!
Just to echo the first couple of posts, between you guys and the O-Zone, there's a lot of reliable Ohio State coverage on the net. Keep it up.
Herbstreit doesnt have the balls to be a coach at OSU. He would fold under the pressure like the a cheap tent.
It is much easier for him to stay behind the microphone and not have explain his inconsistencies or admit to any faults.
I cant even begin to tell you how much I loathe Terelle Pryor but he sure had it right when he called Herbstreit a fake buckeye.
Old Frosty Tips isnt any more qualified than Siciliano to coach the qbs at OSU.
I Hate Michigan.
It's pretty funny how much attention the QB Coach position has generated in the past couple of years. Can anyone name another QB Coach in the country?
All I know is that OSU doesn't currently have one.
Jay Paterno... Thats it though.
Yes, and the reason we've heard of him is his last name, not his great coaching. Very good point Maestro
Sarkasian, Lee, Wipple, Brohm, Kiffin, Trestman
Regarding Florida fans being douches on this...Meyer didn't leave any cupboard bare. If you want bare cupboards, look at Miami and Florida State. Where did all their traditional recruits go? They're in Gainseville.
I wonder if the culture of cheating and shady behavior in the SEC contributed to Meyer's declining health. With inflated coaching salaries and rampant oversigning (which Meyer never did), maybe it's just not fun being there?
And yeah, a lot of us are not over what happened in 2006. I'm not over it. But I never will be, either. I don't blame Meyer, though. If it was a one-off fluke performance, you just chalk it up to Tressel not having those kids ready to play in that one game. Then came the defensive debacle against LSU. Then the one against USC. Then the inept offense we put up with despite having the freakiest of freak athletes ever as the QB for the next 2 years, losing to Texas and again to USC in the process. Urban Meyer exposed Tressel and his staff when the rest of the Big Ten had no ability to do so.
When you're rocking Michigan every year, it's hard to see the forest from the trees.
+4114.... Very well said.
It still hurts man....
Oh, trust me, I know. Had they won that game and successfully beaten their third #2 ranked opponent, they would have been considered the greatest college football team of our generation. First to score a perfect 1.000 in the BCS (fuckin' LSU just did that this week... only the second time ever its happened I think), and first and only ever to beat three #2's.
It hurts. But it wasn't Urban Meyer's fault.
I still wear my perfect 12-0 shirt I got for Christmas that year (I did, however, throw away the BCS national championship game shirt I also received). Going undefeated is the hardest thing to do in college football, and doing it at Ohio State having to play Michigan every year makes it all the more difficult. That was a hell of a season, and a hell of a team to watch.
His time coaching at Ohio State made Urban Meyer the great coach that he is. He treasures it with that lucky Buckeye he keeps in his pocket on the sidelines. As crazy as it is to say after all these years, this is where he belongs. It has been a tough idea to accept ever since the rumors began buzzing months and months ago. But he's an Ohio boy and a huge Buckeye fan.
I had a Notre Dame fan tell me today that he's jealous. So, hell yeah!
"I had a Notre Dame fan tell me today that he's jealous. So, hell yeah!"
Same here. He was thinking (quasi-hoping) that long-term it isn't going to work out with Kelly and that around about 2013 or so UM was going to take (ah-hem...) "his dream job" in South Bend.
It does still hurt. I sat 16 rows from the field during those miserable 59 minutes.
I am currently reading War as They Knew It (based on recommendations from the comments from the review for Three and Out on 11W). The book talks about how poorly Woody and Bo would both do in bowl games, arguably because those were never as important as The Game specifically during the 10 Year War. They spent all season preparing for The Game and the bowl became an afterthought, hence not being prepared and subsequently losing.
2006 was obviously the biggest scUM game in recent memory and that bowl was the worst loss. Coincidence?
I don't get the anger towards Urban for the NCG either. Was he supposed to lose on purpose?
I remember after that game (and as you mentioned, this was BEFORE LSU, USCx2, Texas, etc) being so shellshocked that Urban Meyer had coached the pants off Tressel. The next logical thought was, Urban is from Ohio, he just beat the crap out of our coach, why not hire him? Of course, that was completely unrealistic at the time ... and NOBODY saw the hardships of the last few years of the Tressel era coming ... but its kinda spooky to me how this all eventually played out. We DID wind up with the guy who was the better coach (that night).
But you think of all the things that 41-14 set off chain reaction-wise in the college football world ... The birth of "SEC SPEED", the B1G being exposed , basically everything significant that's happened since can be traced to what happened that night. If we win out that night, the CFB world is a totally differnet place. If Tress goes 1/2 in NCs (beating UF, losing to LSU) no one really cares (look @ pete carroll). We throw the SEC monkey off our back in 2006 then Tress isnt pressured in 2010 to play the Tat5 versus Arkansas. Meyer might not have survived that next year in Gainesville (the one where Tebow acconted for like 50TDs but they were mediocre overall). Losing to an OSU that was the eventual NC would probably have slowed Lloyd Carr's departure @ UM too, because they could rationalize that they were the #2 team in the country still. Then, no RichRod. So many things ... can be traced back to that night.
And I still don't think I will ever get over that UTTER SHOCK.
Wait, how many different timelines are we at now?
How much you wanna bet most of the trolls hatin' on Herbie are actually the same guy? I know most of us have either forgiven him (if he did any wrong in the first place... there is a shed of legitmacy within the stuff he said) or we have at least gotten over his comments. I'd welcome him back. In the end, Kirk wants what's best for the University. Never forget that. He has a degree from there (as do I), and I know many of you posting on here do not.
Well some of us are alumni and some of us dont believe Herbstreit was a good QB when he was in Columbus, some of us dont agree with his comments and want him no where near the sidelines unless he has Erin Andrews with him.
hear %$#&%$ hear
Of course there is a shred of legitamacy in what he says...the greatest lies always include a kernel of truth.
You know, I went to OSU too, but that doesn't mean we are better fans or something. I don't know if that's how you meant your comment to come across, but that's how I took it. I've heard a lot of alumni have that attitude and I don't like it. It doesn't make you a better fan... just means you were a student. All Ohioans are Buckeyes in my mind, unless they rebel (by denouncing their heritage).
That's not how I meant it. Sorry if it came off as arrogant. In my mind, if you're born in Ohio and have ever paid a dime in tax money that helps support the university, then you have the right to cheer for OSU like any student or alumnus. That's why I cheer for our MAC teams as well. What I meant is that Herbie has a vested interest in the University and deep down I'm sure he wants what's in it's best interest, even if some of us disagree with him (and trust me, I have been plenty pissed at him in the past). He played there. Most of us didn't. You think he wants to be associated with a classy and prestigious football power, or a trashy ghetto institution (like "Da U")?
Like that fat son of a bitch Brady Hoke
or the entire UCinci "fanbase"
Ohhhhh, yes. I was born and raised in Cincy and moved back after I graduated. Perhaps the most terrible fans in college athletics. They wanted Butch Jones gone after three games last year. You should have heard the callers to the sports talk shows. And now, Butch has them in position to make their third BCS game in four years despite Kelly leaving him with nothing (except now that Collaros is hurt, it's highly improbable that they win the conference).
Outright terrible fans. Despite handling Oregon in the Rose Bowl while they got hammered by Florida, my UC friends still contend that 2009 Cincy could have beaten 2009 Ohio State. They're delusional.
Ugh, just received some bad news regarding the COI's findings and additional violations. I wonder if the timing of this pseudo-announcement was meant to soften the blow. Not sure when it will become official, but I'm told to expect much more than the self-imposed penalties. I'm getting details right now. Stand by.
Thanks. I've been missing the feeling of getting nut tapped.
Maybe just a one year bowl ban and some additional schollies / extended probation?
Gorrdammit! It's always something more. Do tell. This is why we can't have nice things, Rust-Belt.
"Okay -- I've got an El Camino full of rampage here."
Much more? Like having a booster pay for an abortion? Or like having someone rent a really nice car that players speed around in? Or some sleazy men's suit shop owner pimping their celebrity? WTF! Why do we get busted? As always Brutus thank you for the forewarning.
Yeah... Are there potentially more findings? Or is it more punishment than we were expecting for the findings that we all already know about? Thats important.
He wrote addition findings which leaves me to believe Tress was riggin' raffles like a BAMF....
Here's this for a worst case scenario: Sanctions come down hard, Urban gets scared off, our coaching search gets fucked.
Consider me pinched.
I'm just f-ing around. The mood around here has been much more upbeat and positive than I've grown accustomed to over the last few weeks. Just thought I'd try to sober things up a bit. After all, we're still Buckeye fans, which means that we're perpetually waiting for the other shoe to drop. I have no news about additional violations and for that I'm thankful.
And to the guys up above who dedicated 150 comments to this stupid bullshit about Herbie, let it go. It's a new day, the future is bright, and Michigan still sucks.
dear random guy on the internet,
i now hate you. thanks.
/bout had a heart attack
You bastard Brutus.
thank you for giving me a brady hoke
I hope I meet you at a tailgate next year so I can slap the shit out of you and then proceed to apologize with gratuitous gifts of food and libations until you forget about the whole thing.
1.) I hate you (not really... but kind of)
2.) I guess that says something about your credibility because you usually are pretty spot on with your NCAA scoops... you had me on the edge of my seat for sure.
3.) I think I might have started the whole Herbie conversation... people ran with it from there. For that, I appologize.
That was awesome. Well played sir.
You officially suck Brutus! J/K. Thanks for the LULZ and the heart palpatations.
Troll Wizard achievement unlocked.
And he's not just a random guy. He's been a good source of insider poop since Jesus was a Corporal. You scared the shit outta me. Well played sir, and by sir I mean bag o' dix /I keed
Happy troll'd feelings are confusing?
yeah, i know he is a good source of info. he's still a random internet guy though
Technically, you are indeed correct. But what if I knew him from bowling league which I don't?
lol, well i guess that would be awesome. especially if he was a good bowler
Goddammit Brutus! I was about to go nuts!
Well played, sir.
Brutus, that was fuckin hilarious lol...kinda nice to see everyone chipper around these parts right now isn't it?
I still believe your initial comments due to confidential inside sources.
<Hey Brooks use me as a source!>
On second thought, I probably should have let this linger a little longer to see how long it would take for Brooks to start reporting something similar from his "sources". That douche obviously trolls this site. Man, that would have been the ultimate derp. I feel like Constanza coming up with the jerk store comment a little too late.
Brutus, my wife says you are f'ing awesome. Thanks for the levity.
Can you post it in a seperate blog for us, or maybe Jason and the boys/ladies can put it in buckshots?
I hope we never self report a fucking fart from here on out.
The NCAA is a joke.
Very true. I think I wrote an e-mail to every single sportswriter who called OSU a dirty rogram after TateGate and a posed a very simple question: Do you think your article encourages or discourages Universities from self-reporting violations?
Not one person answered back...and there are a few who I always receive answers from.
Don't pinch me, Jason and 11W co.
Trying to reply. suck at internetz.
Shit, sorry guys and gals. I was just messing around. It just took me much longer to re-post than I intended. I have no new info. Consider my comedic timing to be very bad. Please continue the celebration.
So this is how it feels to be the guy that pissed in the punchbowl.
Piss? More like radioactive sewage... We forgive you though.
Dude, you owe me for all that time I wasted sitting here refreshing my browser to find out what the news was.
The long delay totally made it work. I'm sure other websites and such were reaching out to their contacts.
Brutus, that was hilarious. For some reason I had a feeling you may have been jerkin our chains there. Maybe it was just wishful thinking lol. That was a good one!
Denial is a hell of a drug.
The commentators over at Mgo are acting like this somehow works in their favor. The general consensus is that Meyer will burn out and that they will have an advantage in recruiting going forward because Meyer's system doesn't lend itself to kids with pro aspirations. I'm not making any of this up. They are acting like its a forgone conclusion that the rivalry is swinging back to their favor. A few people have used a little common sense and have expressed their rightful amount of dread over this hiring. Meyer is going to eat the Big Ten for lunch.
How reliable is the nerd from Ohio, who pretends to be a _ichigan man, when tOSU doesn't get the death penalty he has been telling recruits? Like anyone of bad character, sooner or later his lies will prove him to be a snake oil salesman.
Yea uh huh right. They should review the NFL rosters and then try to claim Urban doesn't develop players. Two years ago (I think) he had one of the most disgustingly talented recruiting classes of all time. I doubt he gets out recruited. It's going to get ugly for the Weasels and the rest of the B1G.
This past Fri night I over heard a convo a bunch of Meatchicken fans were having about Urbz. They don't want him in Cbus for anything. They would rather have him in State Penn than OSU. He will own the B1G and TSUN will be his bitch. Just sayin'.
These are the same types of trolls that thought Dick Rod would rule the B1G as well.
Ah, yea...I remember very clearly all of the stuff about "Peanut butter jelly with a baseball bat." And who could forget that Barwis would turn Michigan's half-pints into Megatron.
Ha! ...not quite.
I hope they cleansed this with fire. I also hope Shazier knocks `Nard into plaid.
I've been told that has been taken care of... I do not have visual confirmation from the troops, but do have verbal... the red tape that was removed yesterday has been replaced...
Cause I couldn't go for three
So, I've been thinking, and I'm sure people will disagree with me here, but if the Meyer stuff pans out, the program could follow up it's worst year in terms of news and a bad season and actually upgrade the coaching staff and have a better next 10 years. That's unreal if you think about it. I loved Tressel and this program was great with him, but Meyer could be the best coach in college football. That's something else if you think about it. All this bad press and shit hitting the fan and the program could be in position to actually get better.
Michigan fans that are trying to spin this in their favor are idiots. Thinking that Urban will only recruit Florida leaving Ohio ripe for picking. Suggesting kids will skip Ohio State because Urban doesn't put people in the NFL is just idiotic. Let's see, Harvin, Riley Cooper, Tebow, the Pouncey twins, Hernandez, a slew of defensive players, Louis Murphy, Heyward Bey. Oh yeah he turned Alex Freaking Smith into a number 1 overall pick. Nah, no one will want to come play for Meyer.
But I would love to smoke, sniff, or inject whatever those hippies are on.
LOL. Can't leave out Joe Haden!
Heyward-Bey went to Maryland. I can agree to a point but I think Tressel will forever sit at #2 behind Woody. He was incredible and history will show. He brought us our first NC in decades. It's even more evident now. Look at the joke of a staff we have. He was winning 10 games a year with these clowns.
lol, not sure why I thought he wwas a gator! I'm not saying historically Meyer will pass him neccessarily, just think that overall the program may have more success, which is hard to believe. What Tressel did in his time here was absolutely incredible, I'm not trying to diminish what he did at all.
Tressel is going to be #1 in my heart for the rest of my life no matter what Urban does. This program where it stands now is because of Coach Tress for better and for worse. Tatgate sucked, and probably will suck for a few more years, but as long as it doesn't suck as long as Michigan has the past decade and Michigan continues to suck throughout whatever sanctions are handed out, I couldn't give a rat's ass.
Cant wait for Urban... Im more excited about this, than when Tressel was hired!
Damn Brutus - you had us there. Well struck.
Please don't do that ever again.
How firm they friendship...
HAHA, i wrote a post on SbB's post asking when he was going to stop stealing stories from 11W, or atleast give you guys credit as his "source" and he deleted my comment. what a tool.
I saw it... Then I didn't see it. Mine is also gone... Bastard.