Urban Meyer's Power Moves to Fix His Offense Feel Like What He Did the Last Time Ohio State Lost to Clemson

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

I think the results following that season for sure proved that pressure makes diamonds.  It's not just about the coaching staff though, there are plenty of spots on the roster where guys simply need to step up their game and play like D-1, national title contenders.  We saw a lot of that on the defense, but now a bunch of those guys are moving on.  The offense now needs to evolve just in case lightning doesn't strike twice on defense.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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BrownBuckeye's picture

Special teams could use improving also.

Lead, follow, or get out of my way!

 

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Earle's picture

Let's not wait for a special teams debacle before addressing that.

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

I'll try to erase the PSU game from my memory.

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Earle's picture

Let's not wait for [another] special teams debacle before addressing that.

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McGrind's picture

Obvious but true. No where near top ten...except in punting. 

Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP

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stpetebuck's picture

Agreed. Paris Campbell kickoff returning  was a bright spot but too late. 

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buckeyeboy68's picture

I think we'll definitely see some improvement from the younger guys next year. The bar is set high, I think they make that jump this offseason. It's happened many times in the past (Gareon Conley, Micheal Thomas, etc.). 

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

Losing like this really hurts, but it is great to see Coach Meyer taking the needed steps to ensure this won't happen again.  I have complete trust in this man, and there is no better person to be our coach.  He HATES losing, and he is proving that.

What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!

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grangel's picture

Sucks that it takes a loss like this for him to make the needed changes when is a fan base we all see the potential especially last year and nothing happened..
But if this is a down year it is great to be a buckeye

R.I.P. AfroDuck and Harambe

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Run_Fido_Run's picture

Yes, the program needs to hire you as a consultant. 

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bd2999's picture

Parts of the fanbase want everybody fired or benched after a poor showing or game. Even if the following week things look fine. The fans are not a good judge in general. Just because some of them turn out to be right does not mean that they were right for the right reasons either.

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BornNbredAthensBuckeye's picture

A broke clock is right 2 times a day

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Blackbeards Delight's picture

Three times at daylight savings time. Don't sell our fan base short. 

"Adequately achieving on 40% brawn, 40% Bourbon, and 20% good looks, is over achieving."

- Me

 

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countrybuckeye's picture

"Fanbase short sales"

sounds like a slick market maneuver 

fans have a role, as do the coaches on staff, and they are not the same

both need to play their role with class and good character -- pay attention to how UFM handles his role

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buckeyes763's picture

Yes and no. The base base would have fired Herman (and Meyer?) after Virginia tech.

Having the offense roll vs Michigan and Notre Dame last year was the worst thing for offense this year because we thought the problems were solved by moving coaches to a box.

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grangel's picture

With the loss at Virginia Tech there were changes made to the offense the offensive line got better JT became the distributor Ezekiel Elliott came out of the death at running back position.
I thought the problems were solved having moved Warinner into the box last year versus Michigan and Notre Dame. And that was even a few weeks too late. The consensus in Buckeye nation in 2015 was that they were sandbagging the entire year just to save themselves for the playoff having as many starters from the 2014 season all the roster.

If the Buckeyes put up some points versus Clemson and fought a little bit, I doubt there would be any drastic coaches changing and the Buckeyes would still have operated next year the way they did this year and in 2015.

And what I am saying is it sucks that it takes a loss versus Michigan State in 2015 for them to make coaches moves into the box. Also that it takes a second loss in 2016 for them to evaluate the coaching and offensive coordination. When there were struggles the entire season both years

R.I.P. AfroDuck and Harambe

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buckeyes763's picture

I agree with you that it's frustrating it takes a loss to bring changes. I think it's selective memory to say the fan base always knows what needs to be done. I was saying the fans would have fired Herman after va tech and then maybe the improvements that we saw are never made? So while Urban is maybe too patient to make changes, the fans are on the far opposite end of that spectrum.

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grangel's picture

Well I wouldn't mind Urban Meyer being a little less patient with making drastic changes I absolutely do not want him to be as Cutthroat as Saban. If this is the way to keep Urban Meyer's health (stress) not an issue at OSU, im okay with that too.

11-2 down season and beat TTUN isnt too bad.

R.I.P. AfroDuck and Harambe

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Knite's picture

Are you telling me that you can watch the games the last 2 years and tell us that offense is regressing? What do you call what er seen if that is the case. No things needed to change what they had was not working. Every time we played a team that has a heartbeat we struggled, proof is in the game films.

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jackjng's picture

There is always a reason that same problems repeat themselves. In the past 2 years, minor changes were made but proven not enough. I hope UM learned the lesson. Take a "HARD LOOK" when the same problems happen "EVERY TIME" .

Jack

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countrybuckeye's picture

the Buckeye Faithful need to remember the wise words of Woody

"Nothing cleanses the soul like a good ass-whoopin'."

“Save yourself and relax during every game. I recommend a fine bourbon.”

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Last year they were a few plays away from an undefeated season.  I know I am going to be sorry I asked, but what should he have done last year, keeping in mind they were defending national champs?  Maybe it's just time to face the fact that any particular team is not likely to go undefeated every year.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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grangel's picture

That's the point, with all the NFL Talent, the returning 2014 Champions, two proven quarterbacks, a record-breaking running back, an experienced O line, wide receivers with playmaking ability, a Stout defense.

The 2015 Buckeyes had the potential and expectation to run the table undefeated outscoring the opponents twofold. But it was the coaching or the offense coordination that stalled out the performance

R.I.P. AfroDuck and Harambe

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fear_the_nut70's picture

I always find it funny when the very staff that got you to the point of being a few plays away from being undefeated is then held 100% responsible for the sole loss that kept it from happening.

FAN LOGIC: when the team wins, it's the talent getting it done.  When they lose, the coaching staff F'd it up.  I'm not buying it.

I watched that 2015 MSU game and saw both lines get their asses kicked for the majority of the game.  When you lose the LOS badly, you rarely win games.  The game plan that was called was predicated on not turning it over and winning the LOS to make at least enough big plays in bad weather that you could beat a team with its second string QB at home.  It didn't work because your team got their asses kicked in the trenches (painfully I watched this game 3 times, so I know what I am talking about).  Could the play calling have been better?  Sure, but blaming it all on the play calling/coaches is overly simplistic and scapegoating because you don't want to admit your team got beat.  Having said all of that, even if they beat MSU, no saying OSU would have won 2 playoff games and won a title anyway (rumor has it that Alabama team is pretty good).  I honestly don't think fans appreciate how hard it is to win a championship and how small the margin for error really was.  For us, in 2015, it probably was a handful of plays, no more.

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SoulPatrol32's picture

More during the MSU game

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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fear_the_nut70's picture

He was in the hospital earlier in the week on a IV drip.  Might have had something to do with it, but don't let that stop you from being an armchair monday morning QB with 20/20 hindsight vision.  BTW, I hate the feed me gif as I associate it with a certain assclown from Ann Arbor.  Wish this would die.

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SoulPatrol32's picture

I'm aware of him being in the hospital during game week. How he responded to not getting the ball more it sure seemed like he thought he was good enough to go and contribute way more than he did. 

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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fear_the_nut70's picture

And players with concussions demand to be put back in the game.  You might be right but just saying that the player might not always be the best judge of this.  Did you see how bad his numbers were on the carries he did get?  A lot of that had to do with a bad game from the O-line, something a lot of fans don't want to acknowledge.

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SoulPatrol32's picture

Totally agree the line was dreadful that game and was straight dominated. 

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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countrybuckeye's picture

Fear_The_Nut70 ---

so many 'ass-clowns' up north, you've got to be more specific

“Save yourself and relax during every game. I recommend a fine bourbon.”

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AzBuckeye45's picture

Who knows, he might have been planning on making changes at the end of the season, regardless? We will probably never know the answer to that.

"Cause I couldn't go for three!"
Woody Hayes-1968

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stpetebuck's picture

Yes. Urbs saw the same thing we all saw with Beck and co.  But he has the temperament and professionalism to hold his tongue and keep his 2 year promise. I hope we play Clemsn again next year.  

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SoulPatrol32's picture

If our offense improves in the same way our defense improved after the last Clemson game then we are all in for a stellar 2017. 

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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Tater_Schroeder's picture

The coaching turnover can be mind-boggling at times. Here's to hoping he's building a good team on the staff for 2017.

Pray for potatoes with a hoe in your hand.

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AzBuckeye45's picture

Mind-boggling? Oh, yea. I wouldn't want to be a head coach at a major school. It is literally, a 360 day a year job. I'm sure the head coaches are constantly thinking about the job even when they are at home or on vacation. They deserve the money they get paid as long as they bear fruit.

"Cause I couldn't go for three!"
Woody Hayes-1968

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lamplighter's picture

there's nothing that can't be fixed.  An off -season of reflection (coaches and players) and working with Coach Mick should do wonders.  Future is bright and is now

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

What a great day!

This is what those of us who were #firebeck people saw and wanted. We questioned why an unheralded OC from Nebraska was given ownership of our team when coaches from coast to coast would kill for a spot on Urban's staff.

Now after only 24 hours we have an NFL-quality QB's coach and an offensive genius head coach as our OC.

Ohio State is a premiere creme de la creme program. Beck was never a premiere hire but now we have top-shelf talent in the coach's room.

Thank god!

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countrybuckeye's picture

remember -- Beck never called the plays in 2016

“Save yourself and relax during every game. I recommend a fine bourbon.”

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langweilig's picture

I feel like defense is harder to fix than offense and boy did we fix our defense so I think we will be just fine. Too much talent to not score any points.

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BuckTheSEC's picture

Fighting the good fight against all things SEC since 2007

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

"Frustrations in the form of a loss in the final game on the schedule leads to a long and tense offseason both from those on the outside of the program to those running the show."

Losing the last game of the season is one thing, but I think the MANNER in which they lost is what stings more. After a full season of practice and some tough games, that's the game plan they came up with?

Perplexing to say the least.....

Saban on a cart eating cold pizza

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bd2999's picture

That is what bothers me the most. Losing sucks and it is not like we would all be crying for joy in a loss but it would not be as bad. Losing by a score or a bit more is at least somewhat comforting. You can say "We were in it except..." but this was a butt kicking.

It is confusing to say the least how they can look that inept. Clemson has a good defense for sure but they are not world beaters either. It was a combo of them being very good and OSU being utterly inept for various reasons.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Counterpoint:  if they would have lost this time like they lost to Clemson last time, probably not much of anything changes.  My guess is that you are feeling embarrassed because of the blowout.  It happens to almost every team at some point, get over it (Clemson lost 70-33 to WVU just about 6 years ago).

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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buckeye phi's picture

Yeah, 3.  But it was so much more than the game plan.  Our o-line was being beaten at the point of attack - badly.  That limits the play-calling options severely.  But by no means does that take the coaches off the hook.  We're Ohio State.  We should never be dominated at the line like that.  Plus - it's not like there were no play-calling options

Wilson's offenses have generally had very good line play.  I look for an immediate improvement in that critical area -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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Yoda888's picture

Gotta have coaches that can game plan and bring out the best in their players.  31-0 after an entire season is not acceptable.  That's down to the coaches.  

Let's hope Kevin Wilson and Day can fix these problems.  Most of the offensive players will be coming back, so they would have an entire season of playing under their belt already.  2017 - No excuses for any offensive mediocrity!

Yoda888

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langweilig's picture

I'm hoping it's a wide open competition. New coaches clean slate. If burrow or Haskins looks better in practice than jt start em. If these young bucks at Wr look good start em. Open competition brings out the best in everyone

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Unlike other ledge walking fans I enjoyed watching this young team grow. They hit their ceiling but that was because they all havent fully developed yet. That should give everyone enough comfort and hope for the future...until people go back onto the ledge the first time our offense bogs down or the defense surrenders a TD to IU in 9 months anyway lol

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BornNbredAthensBuckeye's picture

They hit their ceiling in week 3, then regressed. Age had nothing to do with the Clemson ass wooping

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countrybuckeye's picture

IIRC, Games 9 and 10 were offensive explosions

“Save yourself and relax during every game. I recommend a fine bourbon.”

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WezBuck28's picture

I'm just glad that we are on a new chapter..ready to get the 2017 season rolling!

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Commodore's picture

I'm really looking forward to the addition of Wilson. Considering what he did with the offensive talent he didn't have at Indiana, I expect big things to come at tOSU 

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grangel's picture

It is exciting to see the way he drove the Toyota Corolla that is Indiana and now given the keys to a Ferrari that is the Buckeyes.

R.I.P. AfroDuck and Harambe

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osu07asu10's picture

To me, the silver lining in taking a washing like that is we won't gloss over any perceived deficiencies because the results closely matched expectations.

The shortcomings were put on full display and a thorough review and reorder became obviously necessary. A chance to retool if you will.

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buckeyepastor's picture

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there sightings of Kevin Wilson hanging around during the bowl practices, or were those just myth?  Assuming that Wilson is announced as OC in the next day or two, and if he was around before we got curb-stomped, isn't it possible that Meyer was already prepping a change prior to the loss?  

I mean, I am as glad as anyone else if Meyer makes big changes in the wake of being shut out, but I'd like to think that it was much bigger than just that one game, and that perhaps there was already some change being considered.  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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saluki2007's picture

I can not comment on whether Wilson was there before bowl practice or not because I don't know, but I do agree with your statement about the changes.  It seems everyone within knew major changes were coming.  I find it hard to believe that these hires happen this quickly without previous talks and Meyer "scouting" for new hires.  On top of that a few of the recruits hinted that they already knew these changes were coming and that they were good with it.

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huffdaddy's picture

Yeah these changes were baked before the Clemson game. UFM already knew our offense sucked. Beck was already on his way to Texas and Wilson was already in the mix.

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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Jim Earl Hayes's picture

You are absolutely right.  The changes to the offensive staff had to have been put in motion before January 1...the hiring of a new QB coach happened way too quick for it to not have been on Coach's mind for awhile.  I hope that our QB's learn to see pass plays develop and throw to a spot instead of waiting until the receiver is wide open.  JT was way too worried about not screwing up and that caused him to hold on to the ball way longer than he should have...or he would just take off running.

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Buckeye Scottie's picture

Anyone else wishing Warinner would accept a demotion and go back to the OL coach?  Was it what, 2 years ago, we were praising him as the best OL coach in America?  Maybe he just isn't cut out to be an OC?  Not sure what that would do with Coach Stud, but the OL was not up to par with the last few years.

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Jim Earl Hayes's picture

Stud to TE's

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Grand Lake Celina's picture

My expectation/hope is "running game coordinator (without play calling duties) & oline coach".  Coach Stud can be the tight end coach.  Warinner is a great oline coach and I'd hate to lose him.

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Max Power's picture

I don't see how most of the blame for the OL deficiencies can be pinned on Studrawa. He had to replace a 1st round draft pick and returned only a couple starters. Michael Jordan played well for a freshman, but it was obvious that depth is the most glaring issue when Knox came in to replace him on Saturday night. Studrawa did fine with what he was dealt with in my eyes.

Is he as good as Warriner was? I'm not so sure. We don't have a large enough sample to compare the two yet. Did Studrawa under perform enough to justify losing his job? I don't see how that conclusion can be reached just yet

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superfan24's picture

I think this move further shows how much he supports his players and shoulders the burden of losing, which in turn, will make his players want to play better, harder for him. I guess he didn't arrive at his success accidentally. 

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BrutusB's picture

I mean, isn't Beck shouldering the burden of losing?  Urban's keeping his job.

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grangel's picture

I don't think Beck is feeling too bad, having the same position at Texas

R.I.P. AfroDuck and Harambe

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BrutusB's picture

I like that we're making changes, but I do wish we didn't need an ass-beating to finally do it.  The problems didn't exactly appear overnight.

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Seattle Linga's picture

HAHA - love it

I didn't like getting shut out but maybe it'll propel us to make enough changes to have a brand new game plan going forward.

I like that we are taking an aggressive approach to changes so far.

Here we come dabo !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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bd2999's picture

There were problems, but the team was winning. And at the end of last year we did see sizable changes in play calling from the MSU game to UM and ND games. So, there were problems but I do understand why Meyer thought it could be dealt with. The passing game was a problem, but it did not stop a one loss season.

Losses are best to show what is wrong I think. Otherwise it is just tweaking things a bit with wins. Now, does not have to be a butt kicking. Last time Clemson won, they won a close game against OSU.

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BrutusB's picture

Winning is what matters, but sometimes I wish Urban was more like Saban - remember the "ass chewing" Kiffin got when they only won by like 30?

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bd2999's picture

I think each coach has different temperment and there is not a one size fits all here. And Meyer has done a pretty good job at winning too. So it is not like it is easy to judge him.

Meyer's mistake last year was the MSU game, but if they made the playoffs they would have been scarier. This year they looked bad and the sky is falling.

Meyer seems to understand the issues that the team faces at different times but it seems like he may differ too much at times to the guys that are being paid to do the job they were given. I do not know that for a fact but it is the only thing that I can figure.

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grangel's picture

This is what I'm saying my comment above and I was getting slammed. And as much as I don't like Saban or want this program to be run like Saban's he does make the necessary changes before issues get out of hand.

R.I.P. AfroDuck and Harambe

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LawClub's picture

This response didn't come overnight, either.  You don't make these moves until the season's over.

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superfan24's picture

Urban seems to respond pretty well to ass-beatings. It's like he doesn't want to fix things that are only slightly malfunctioning. Beat-downs get his attention. Seemed to be the case after the last Clemson debacle. 

And it's like my teacher at my all-girls boarding school once told me, "You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both, and there you have, potential perennial CFP contenders." I think that's how it went, anyway. 

 

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Buckeyechuck5's picture

Its almost like Urban has it on cruise control until he sees his own blood, then he gets fed up and goes out and kills everyone....................

"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa

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mockjocks's picture

lol, then he goes home and reflects like a boss...

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eclectic_tastes's picture

With the new rule coming in April and the fact that we now have two offensive line coaches, is it possible that we bring in either Chip Kelly or Claeys along with Wilson and get rid of Stud or Warriner?

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osu07asu10's picture

Why? Stud and Warinner are terrific on the OL.

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bd2999's picture

The question is if Warinner would want to stay in that capacity or not. They both are pretty good though.

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eclectic_tastes's picture

Warriner yes, but would he take a demotion? Stud hasn't proved himself yet, but if Warriner leaves then he's probably our best bet.

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Jim Earl Hayes's picture

Keep Warriner on the OL...did a great job with that.  He just isn't cut out to be an OC.  I hear the players like Stud and feel he is a good coach...move him to TE coach and teach them how to block.

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eclectic_tastes's picture

IF we could bring in another big time coordinator, would it be smart to keep Stud around just as a TE coach?

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Chip Kelly is not coming here, it is time to stop with that nonsense.  He will take a NFL OC job or most likely a CFB HC job.  Too much previous success.

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Buckeye Scottie's picture

While I agree with your sentiment regarding Kelly being nonsense, Schiano proves it has been done.

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eclectic_tastes's picture

It's late in the game for new hires and he and Urban are friends. It's not the craziest theory out.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

I will be honest with you, would rather have Wilson.  Stuff I have read about Chip is that his ego has gotten so big he doesn't listen to anyone.  Also, Wilson utilized more of a power spread type offense while Chip's spread seemed to be a half back side line to side line offense.  If I see one more jet sweep to the next "Percy Harvin" I"m going to lose my mind.

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eclectic_tastes's picture

I was thinking we could potentially get both, but I hear what you are saying.  I think Kelly would be a better OC, but Wilson would provide more stability.

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blocko330's picture

Well I remember what all those changes prior to the 2014 season led to soooo me likey.

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- TruthTeller

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seafus26's picture

Never thought I'd see the day. Clemson? Clemson? Clemson? TOSU can't handle Clemson?

Go Bucks and michigan STILL SUCKS!

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osu07asu10's picture

You realize Clemson is the school Woody coached his last game against?

Pretty sure we haven't been able to handle Clemson since the 70s, just saying.

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bd2999's picture

They have hung with them though. It is just one of those things. The previous time it was a shoot out and this was a blow out. OSU has the talent to beat anybody out there. This seems like one of those fluky things to me. Not to knock Clemson. They have loads of talent and are a good team, but I do not put too much stock into losing to a specific team meaning too much. Other than them being good.

And for whatever reason, when OSU is most flawed they play Clemson.

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

That last sentence is very interesting. There's some bad mojo, curse of Woody, voodoo, whatever you want to call it going on here that needs to be exorcised as soon as possible.

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countrybuckeye's picture

add to that having a star player groped 

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BrutusB's picture

They are currently tied with Florida State (0-3 each) as our worst record vs any opponent. They've got our number.

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

We are 0-7 versus So. Cal for the last seven games we played them - our last win in 1973. They also lead the series 12-9-1 overall. Ouch.

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BuckeyeCat's picture

That's been painful for me living a county away from SC.  Even years ago, a game in Columbus had to be called early on account of lightening.  Naturally the Trojans were leading at the time.  It's like a cosmic thing.  USC just beats tOSU most of the time--at least in my memory.  But then tOSU is 9-0 against Oregon, which is often enough a trap  game for SC.  Which is no comfort as far as the Buck's record with them.  Do enjoy watching SC's song girls, though.  

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NorthBerg's picture

? TOSU can't handle Clemson?

Remember that, except for William Tecumseh Sherman, Ohio State is 0-5 against the State of South Carolina.  Ohio State and Urban Meyer have no God given right to win football games. Victory has to be earned and a little humility learned along the way.

Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72

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BuckeyeCat's picture

Those who haven't had a chance might want to look up sites with "Ohio State" inscribed on a gravestone on Clemson's campus.  

Yet no matter how great the historical odds against it may seem, a resurrection is not impossible.  When that happens, I wonder if  they'll show the top of that coffin flipped open.   

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buckeyes763's picture

I'm not sure why Coach Stud has escaped having his job questioned more here in 11w (where everyone's jobs are questioned). For the first time under Meyer the O-line didn't improve drastically throughout the season, and didn't improve at all. And the lack of development of any depth is inexcusable with the talent on the roster.

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Jim Earl Hayes's picture

Overall, I agree with you.  However, there were way too many times that the protection was there but JT held on to the ball too long...or just decided to start running.

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BornNbredAthensBuckeye's picture

Agreed, but at the same time there were way too many times where he didn't have any time.

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buckeyes763's picture

I agree, not saying the O-line was the only problem just that coach Stud seems to have avoided the same criticism for an equally poor performance as other parts of the offense.

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Jim Earl Hayes's picture

Knox did look pretty bad when thrown in to replace Jordan

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OSUFlash's picture

Who would've thought our best chance to win anything in that game was the coin toss.....and we lost that too.

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Hovenaut's picture

If there's a problem, yo Urbz solves it
Check out the score while the offense straight balls it...

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Dillon G's picture

I have no interest in Chip Kelly or any coach who is one dimensional at times and forces it to the edge just to get strangled by a sweater vest. Kevin Wilson also knows how to use a bruising running back.

#walkaway

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JoeAndSo's picture

Wouldn't it be funny if Clemson ends up losing this year and we end up winning the championship next year? Clemson would essentially have helped lead us to 2 championships without winning one themselves.

"¯\_(ツ)_/¯"  - Joey Bosa

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buckguyfan1's picture

Bet guys like Mack, Victor and McCall are doing cart wheels in their sleep.

Simplify...

13-0 and a chance to go 14-0

In another universe ttun still sucks...

Beat wisky.  

Earn this...  Beat clemson.

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Wyandot Buckeye Fan's picture

In Urban we trust, Lol. Has he put coaches in bad positions?

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scarpenter614's picture

From my armchair, I put Warinner back on the field coaching the line, bring Hinton back to coach TEs again and actually use that position in the offensive scheme, put Day and Wilson in the box, and make Stud a consultant.  If Warinner doesn't want to do that, then we'll be ok without him.  My concern is that we'll focus so much on improving offense, that our D will suffer, especially with Fickell gone.  I look forward to having Schiano call the defense, but development of the LB position is still critical.  Have we not hired anyone else on the defensive staff or did I miss something amidst everything else going on?

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BrutusB's picture

Hinton was our worst recruiter and despite the annual offseason chatter we never actually use the TEs.

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Jim Earl Hayes's picture

Bill Davis from staff as new LB coach.

I love scotch...scotchy...scotch...scotch...here it goes down...down into my belly.

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scarpenter614's picture

Thanks for dusting off the memory of an aging 32 year old man.  Cheers

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EnzoAmoresHairExtensions's picture

Whatever did Hinton do to make you want him back?  When he was here they caught less balls than they do now.

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BucksHave7's picture

A Coordinator level position shouldnt be a 'stepping stone' position.  

Hope the hire is true and love it if it is......Air Raid baby!

BucksHave7

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buckeyeEddie27's picture

{sits down at desk}

{adjusts glasses}

{levels report on desk and reads title:  "A Down Year At Ohio State" }

{Proceeds to skim}

.....Oook, lets see here...Youngest Team in FBS, might be rebuilding year.....and First game, team sets school record for offensive output, NICE......dominates top ten out of conference opponent, OK Awesome........alright looks good.....Rutgers, ok...Indiana, yep......tough OT game at Wisky, uh huh, very good......Penn State, damn you. Fucking Happy Valley, still in it though......NERDS!!!.....63 points.....63 points again lol, Urban......Suck it Sparty......aaand ooook, here we are....Jabrill heisman blah blah blah, Harbaugh back at the shoe, yadda yadda.....top defense whatever..... hmm down early, look like poop...Malik The Freak, yes!....wait, damn it.... ok fourth quarter, wow tie game. OT....... FUCK YES, EAT IT SCUM.  5-0 GO HOME HARBAUGH......   Now to the Play-Off.....

{Pauses}

{checks Title again}

This is a down year?

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

I Believe In Ohio State.

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Horvath22's picture

Well done, 27. Highly entertaining. Original. Refreshing break from the prevalent drivel on here. Showing some excellent writing chops.

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Adare83's picture

What's funny is that nobody is talking about Kevin Wilson and our very first game next year. Talk about a story. @ Indiana. He will have extra motivation to win 70-0

Adam

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Buckeyechuck5's picture

"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa

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Nikkibucksfan's picture

I woke up this to hearing the ttun fans in my house laughing about our Wilson hire. "A guy who abused his players...great". I said no, a great offensive mind that pushes hard. Our guys are tough and don't worry our staff won't put up with that crap. Also, about our QB hire from the 49ers."He sucked in the NFL" have at it...my response...don't hate. Screw TTUN...period.

Nikki emmerson

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

You'll get the last laugh. Tell 'em they'll be "bitterly dissappointed" once again next year in late November.

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bd2999's picture

Just ask them what Haurbaugh has ever won to be so confident? They are still 0-2. Not to mention IU nearly beat Michigan the last two years. And their QB coach pushed his NFL cred hard despite not doing much in college.

The guy is bound to be better at coaching QBs than Beck. At least I hope so.

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McGrind's picture

I actually kind on like Dan Grimtonio and think he is a great foil for Hairball. But here is the difference and all Bucks fans need to remember this...after getting their asses kicked by Bama and going down the toilet this year...Grimtonio says 'we're good...standing pat'. 

Loyality is a huge part of the coaching profession...but the very best know when they have to make a change. 

We have one of the very best. 

Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP

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McGrind's picture

AKA Mark Dantonio

Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP

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Ole Buckeye's picture

Well maybe what we are learning (and by that, I mean, I am learning) that Urban is actually a nice guy and really wants his coaches to succeed. Tries to be supportive. 

It's like having a sales job.  You don't get fired, you fire yourself.  Beck and Warriner, and maybe Zack Smith, too, just worked themselves out of a job.  They force Urban's hand with a game like that.

I like the premise of this article, which is, last time we lost to Clemson, it begat a national championship.  Let's hope this happens again. 

We are spoiled.  We want National Championships and a fun team to watch!  But I can still remember the anguish of watching the 2002 team... painfully.... go undefeated!!  :-)

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Bucky's's picture

"we can rebuild him. Make him better, stronger, faster..

In Urban We Trust.

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Boom777's picture

Now we need a rematch with Clemson very soon!!!

Wherever you are, there you be!

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The Buckeye Bullet's picture

It's feeling like another "too many cooks in the kitchen" situation brewing.

Give Wilson or someone like him full reigns of the Offense and play calling or prepare for another ClusterF*ck next season. 

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Spoon's picture

Open letter to Ed Warriner:

Dear Ed,

Please please please please PLEASE do not come back and coach "The Slobs" for Ohio State next year.

Sincerely,

Big Ten defenses

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ohiobobg's picture

Stud should be the one out the door - put Ed back on the line.

"you can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning"

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Crumb's picture

This is what I love about Urban, I think he's doing these changes primarily because they're what's best for his boys and their careers. Certainly he wants to win, wants to make Ohio proud and represent and all that good stuff. But more than that he wants his players to succeed and thrive in football and in life, and he's willing to make tough calls to do that. 

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UpIrons's picture

Those are pretty quick actions there. Leads me to believe my own (admittedly tinfoil hat) theory that some of this was in the works prior to the game being played. And, as a result, certain coaches being less than creative in their play-calling as a last-ditch protest for being asked to leave the program. 

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