Nebraska Quarterback Tommy Armstrong Jr. Presents Different Dual Threat Challenge to Ohio State's Defense

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Hovenaut's picture

Seems more like Tommy Armstrong, Super Senior...

Yeah, he's going to be a stout test for the defense...one that has been greatly challenged by mobile QB's the past two weeks. The pass rush, containment on the edge, and tight coverage are all going to be needed Saturday night.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

I honestly feel like a dual threat QB will be easier for the defense to defend then the pocket passers who get rid of the ball in a heart beat that we've seen so far this year.

I think a QB that gets outside the pocket is just asking to get smacked in the mouth by an athletic front 7, which is what Ohio State brings.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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magruder80's picture

I agree completely, Ohio State has a fast defense and allowing the defenders to utilize their speed is a great thing.

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Barfolomew's picture

The front seven is key in containing him, but facing Armstrong also seems like a great opportunity for a highly athletic ball hawking defensive backs unit. I'd love to see a Malik pick six Saturday night.

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grangel's picture

Buckeye nation is due for a pick six

R.I.P. AfroDuck and Harambe

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

One thing Nebraska does not have is a good run game to compliment him. Make him throw...over the middle. He is the Diet Coke of Mayfield type QBS

Armstrong makes really bad decisions with the football. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Seattle Linga's picture

Armstrong makes really bad decisions with the football. 

At times yes - I'd like to watch us contain him and pressure him all game long. 

Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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buckguyfan1's picture

It's been a while since we've seen the collective LB Unit have a solid game.  It will be needed against this guy.

Simplify...

9-0 and a chance to go 10-0...

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Urbanologist's picture

The thing that seems pretty scary to me is based on what I have seen so far this year if meye & co. Do not specifically game plan to cover Tommy on every play he will carve our LB's up, which he may do anyway. With our Dline not having one of their better years if they cant get penetration its going to be a long day. Nebraska can do both run and pass the ball very well, and armstong isnt afraid to throw the 50/50 ball deep because they have big strong, and talented recievers

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Westerkamp is their leading receiver - he's only 6'0" and 200 lbs. I'd say that's about average size-wise. 

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So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
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RBloodworth's picture

Jared Abbrederis and Austin Carr say hello.  Both of them are listed as 6'1", 195.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Jared Abbrederis

Not following your logic. What do a Green Bay Packer, who played for Wisconsin, and a Northwestern Wildcat have to do with the size of Nebraska's WRs?

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TheBadOwl's picture

because they both torched us.

granted that we ran a different system on defense back in 2013. 

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

They were not fast WRs but they ran great routes and absolutely gave our secondary fits.

What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

My comment about Westerkamp was in response to this:

and armstong isnt afraid to throw the 50/50 ball deep because they have big strong, and talented recievers

My point was merely, the NU receivers really aren't that "big", not that they aren't talented. Westerkamp is clearly one of the best in the B1G, and it has nothing to do with size and/or strength.

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
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ibuck's picture

I get confused by NU:

Do you mean Northwestern University (which is NU or NW to me), or the University of Nebraska (which to me is UN, UNL or Neb)?

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Sorry - NU is what my folks have always called Nebraska - they're both grads.  I guess people now refer to it as UN-L and UN-O.

It's like my sister who teaches in Tuscaloosa - down there, I believe most folks refer to 'Bama and "UA". To me, that's the Golden Bears of Upper Arlington.

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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Ole Buckeye's picture

yeah, I'm hoping they unleash the 3-2-6 defense.  People will be flying all over the field.

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TossTrap's picture

Hoping the team that got after Baker Mayfield shows up.

First and goal at the five and Arch is getting the ball.

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jedkat's picture

My wife went to UNL so I've watched Tommy Armstrong every week for the better part of 3 years. He is a solid mobile quarterback. When he has time to set his feet and gets good protection he is very accurate, however when he's pressured he makes really, really, really poor decisions with the football. He's also good for 1 or 2 random WTF throws per game as well. HOWEVER their primary receiver Jordan Westerkamp is the real deal and has a knack for getting open. A very talented receiver.

The key is to get pressure on Armstrong. Even if you make him move slightly for some reason he'll throw of his back foot and try to force a ball somewhere it shouldn't be - like triple coverage. Hooker, Lattimore et.al. will have a field day if they stay patient, respect Westerkamp and play sound coverage.

Newby is a shifty back and deceptively quick so containing the edges is key. They're not like Wisconsin up front, however so gap sound, freeing up the LB's should do the trick.

"just a guy, nothing more, nothing less" ~ Some troll then *poof* he was gone

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grangel's picture

Great analysis

R.I.P. AfroDuck and Harambe

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cmoney2323's picture

Great post. Perfect observation on Armstrong. My wife is a die hard Neb fan and her mother is a season ticket holder so I see them weekly just like the Buckeyes. Armstrong will look like a million dollars at times then look like a true freshman playing his 1st game.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Spot on JedKat. Westerkamp reminds me of Dane Sanzenbacher in many ways. Great nose for the ball and incredibly reliable. 

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

"“Just a very well-coached team. They’re a top-10 team for a reason,” Urban Meyer said on Tuesday. "

I agree totally here. They have been much improved.

Saban on a cart eating cold pizza

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BrutusB's picture

Nebraska fans refer to him as either Good Tommy or Bad Tommy.  Sometimes he has amazing plays and sometimes he'll turn it over and leave you scratching your head.  Hopefully we see more of the latter this week,

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Buckeyechuck5's picture

Jerome Baker shall spy with his little EYE all night saturday, just like he did Baker Mayfield. I believe our youth will rise to the occasion in this one.........

"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa

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mb5599's picture

Set the edge, then sweep the leg.............................

Big B

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grangel's picture

R.I.P. AfroDuck and Harambe

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GareBear's picture

Why can't it be Saturday???

Michigan sucks

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Defiance's picture

Why can't it be Saturday???

Good morning GB. I sincerely appreciate your desire to speed up the time continuum and get to November 5th, we need to pump the proverbial brakes for just a second...

Isn't there a game on tonight that we need to watch first?

I think we need to finish this

so we can get to this 

and then we can fast forward to Saturday so we can enjoy all of this

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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cmoney2323's picture

Armstrong is prone to make mistakes. Get pressure on him and he will revert to throwing off his back foot and not set his feet. If the Dline can't get to him then they get their hands up and deflect the pass. Wisconsin had great success. Armstrong usually throws 3-5 stupid passes a game. The opportunities will be there for the secondary.

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rkylet83's picture

I watched the 30 minute version (how awesome are those by the way?) of the Nebraska @ Wisconsin game and came away a bit in awe of how athletic and fast Nebraska is.  This is not a team you want to give too many opportunities to on offense.  Tommy Armstrong has a Troy Smith-like cannon and they can score immediately.  Like previous posters have said to beat them you need to contain Armstrong in the pocket and keep him off balance when throwing.  I'm curious if Nebraska will primarily use the Cover 3 like the previous 4 teams have to slow us down.  If so hopefully we've started more reps against that style to get more consistent at beating it.        

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BuckinArk's picture

You're welcome.

Class of 81

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nickel beer's picture

I believe that Riley was one of the coaches commenting during 2015 NCG and/or the playoff games--can't remember exactly--but I got the impression he was familiar with Meyer's tactics and strategy (on the O-side)....  Don't know, do you play a conservative O game in order to limit errors such as turnovers?  Don't know, but there's got to be real threats of surprise to be respected by opponent defense....  In short, I don't think Armstrong is the test for Ohio St, but instead the test falls again on where the Buckeyes themselves rate offensively on the development curve. 

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LeftCoastBuckeye's picture

He was, along with Narduzzi, Derek Mason, and Dan Mullen.  

My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.   - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)

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Cincy Thorpe's picture

Just hope our D co's dont try to treat Tommy as a normal QB. If so I expect him to run and convert for multiple 3rd and long 1st downs in the first half before adjustments are made at halftime. Cant allow the huskers to jump out to a big lead like they did at Indiana 17-0. Their defense has been impressive. Cant afford to have multiple turnovers either. JT has been highly criticized the last gew weeks but the biggest thing people fail to realize is he hasnt been turning the ball over. Ill take the 250 total yard zero turnover JT every day of the week over the 400 yard 3 turnover guy. Our secondary should be licking their chops watching film of some of the jump balls Tommy puts up in the air. Should be a great game between to very solid defensive teams who both have dangerous dual threat QB spread offenses. I expect the Buckeyes to prevail as long as JT plays smart and we dont lose a handful of fluke fumbles. A few weeks ago a lot of folks thought Nebraska was a joke and overrated, now they look to be a really solid top 10 team worthy and hungry. Wont be easy, nothing worthwhile ever is.

Wordness to the turdness

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OSUFlash's picture

Sounds like we're in for another frustrating nail biter and I'm sure this board will be lit up like a christmas tree during and after the game.

osuflash

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Nutinpa's picture

Yup.  NEB is a good team....the days of feasting on Rutgers are long over.  I sense that after Saturday night, the focus of concern may shift from the O to the D for the Buckeyes, but admittedly, I am getting ahead of myself.

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Nutinpa's picture

Not sure I agree with those who believe we are better off facing a "dual threat" QB vs. a pocket passer.  Armstrong can hurt you in a lot of ways and this D has shown a tendency to lose contain on the edges, which he will exploit.  True pocket passers can and will burn us here and there by beating us with their arms.  A good dual threat QB can hurt us both ways....which is why even Nick Saban has caved in with this in mind.  We'll need to really bring it Saturday night and I remain grateful it is a home game....

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Defiance's picture

In 2015, Armstrong threw 16 picks—the most by any player in the Big Ten.

(((((paging Malik Hooker and Marshon Lattimore))))) 

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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Cincy Thorpe's picture

That huge win Nebraska had over Wyoming looks a little bit better now that they took down a undefeated Boise st. Only way we lose this game at home is if we have multiple/handful of turnovers. That or if we try to play super conservative and Riley opens his offense up to full go. If nebraska opens it up like that we have to make them pay with forcing our own turnovers Int's/sack fumbles.

Wordness to the turdness

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Buckeyejohn's picture

We have plenty of things to correct on D, but it's easy to forget that we haven't given up more than 24 points in a game yet. we have been gashed in a few games, but the floodgates have never been opened. Wisconsin pushed us around up front, but at the end of the day we still found a way to only surrender 23 points. I wouldn't be surprised if Nebraska gashes us at times with Westerkamp and QB runs, but they probably end up right around that 21 point mark. Our defense hasn't been amazing, but they keep us in every game. Can our offense take a step forward and just consistently provide 28-31 points? Its hard to see us losing to anybody in the regular season if our offense can breach that 30 point barrier. 

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BucksFam4's picture

Nebraska chat boards seem convinced that they won't win against tOSU if they can't break the 30 point barrier.  They don't seem very optimistic that they can do that against our defense.

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ibuck's picture

Can our offense take a step forward and just consistently provide 28-31 points?

A can a week, that's all we ask.    A TD per quarter, that's all we ask.

(Of course, defensive scores would be gravy welcome too.)

Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !

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danmas's picture

I had to watch a 15 second ad to see a 38 second video of a guy running two yards?

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