Last year's Michigan State game. That hurt. There are other games I would love a do-over of (the B1G championship game vs Michigan State), but I don't believe those teams were National Championship contenders.
Given how we played in the Fiesta Bowl last year (even sans Bosa), I think we could have beaten any team in the country. But then again, without that loss, I'm not sure we would have risen to the occasion
Yep I initially thought, the 07 natty but maybe Urban never was if that happens? I don't want to mess with the time spectrum too much.
Last year MSU, we're back to back Champs right now.
I think if we escaped that Mich St game with a victory then we woulda lost to TTUN, which would have been much, much worse IMO. It took that loss to finally wake up the offense. I'd pick the Championship game vs LSU.
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Probably unpopular thinking, but I agree. Would've been even more painful to see us lose to Iowa.* And maybe get humbled by a strong Alabama defense.*
*Hypothetical. Calm down, friends.
" And maybe get humbled by a strong Alabama defense.*"
Ezekiel Elliott objects to that statement.....
Saban on a cart eating cold pizza
I think Michigan was beat up for the "Game", missing a couple DT's.msu was a better team, physically imo. we should handle them in the shoe this year as well. harbaugh definitely needs a few years. they have 0 depth.
MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS
By far last years Mich St game. When you look at the talent on our team last year and we lost a low scoring game at home vs Sparty in the rain and we have Zeke! Plus we know Oklahoma should have not been in the playoff. TOSU got robbed big time because of the Sparty game!!!
Careful when speaking hypothetically using terms like "by far". I understand Doc Brown's, ahem, Ramzy's space-time continuum warnings perfectly, but if you're old enough, and maybe you are, to remember what losing to scUM with the talent we had in 1995 was inexcusable and eviscerating. I'm sure Buckeyes who can remember 1969 would say "by far" to that year.
Ramzy, your brilliance in hypotheticals is as astute as when you deal with tangibles. Kudos.
1998 Michigan State, hands down.
Yeah this was my immediate reaction before even clicking on the article. That 1998 team was the best college football team I have ever seen, period. They would have whitewashed Tennessee in the BCS NG.
I thought that too, but what if that means more Cooper years and less Tressel?
I agree with this but like he said there is no way of telling what a National Championship for Coop would have meant. Would he have coached 10 more years ..more ? I've been around to see the 69 loss and all the ( gut kicking ones ) after. The MSU game in 98 was the most painful for me but I kind of like how things turned out.
Ah yeah....Beanie Broke off that 66 yarder and i thought we had em
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we're back to back Champs right now.
That's assuming they got the wakeup call that only a loss would ultimately bring. For my money, I'd rather go down there, instead of one week later in Ann Arbor.
If being in a dog fight with the likes of Western Michigan and Indiana didn't wake them up, narrowly escaping a loss against the best team on your schedule wasn't going to snap them out of it. (In my opinion, of course.)
Which brings me to the point I completely agree with you on, from start to finish:
Yep I initially thought, the 07 natty but maybe Urban never was if that happens? I don't want to mess with the time spectrum too much.
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I think the MSU loss had a lot more to do with Zeke being in the hospital all week, affecting the game plan (limiting the run), and the weather. I do believe if MSU's kicker misses that last second field goal, and we won in OT, we still would have beat Michigan the next week. The talk would have been all about why we were so pathetic in the MSU game. The players always get up for The Game. I don't think we could say that we would have been guaranteed to win the B1G championship, or both games in the playoff, but I think we beat scUM.
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Healthy Zeke or not, the O line just got beat in that game.
Line play and weather. Couldn't throw, couldn't catch.
Yup. My son and I froze in the rain in the 9th row , southwest corner for that one. If my brain wouldn't have seized up as the clock ran out, I probably would have ended that "windmill-off "with a hot dog to his facemask. I guess it was God's will that I not be that guy on that day, cause he did put me close enough to do it. I've been shot at and didn't freeze up but THAT was a moment of pure out of body shittyness
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As many have said (including the Flash aka Barry Allen), altering the timeline can have quite a ripple effect (good and bad). Rather than mess with too much of Buckeye history (I'd change the 07 natty) I have a fresh take...
Can I just go back and not have TTUN's punter epically fail at the end of their MSU game? We still lose to MSU to get the spark we need, but then we go on to play in and win the B1G championship against Iowa due to MSU's additional loss. I'll take my chances in the playoffs. I say the Buckeye team that showed up against TTUN and ND could not lose.
Drank! Now that's something I didn't even think of! Wow thanks for the idea lol. I am with you on this one!! Have TTUN beat MSU by not having an absolute breakdown punting in the final seconds of the game, OSU loses as we did to MSU and then we get that spark and take it to Iowa in the B1G championship game!! Now with that being said the only issue I see here is how the playoff committee views this and where does everyone stand now? They're is the slight possibility that the Buckeyes are still left out of the playoff picture unfortunately but maybe not?
Football is, after all, a wonderful way to get rid of your aggressions without going to jail for it. ~ Woody Hayes
I think if we curb stomp UM and then win the B1G championship game easily, we're in the playoff (being defending champs and all). Our 1 loss to MSU looks a lot better than the loss to Texas that Oklahoma had. It's tough to guarantee we beat Alabama again, but I'd sure like our chances. I'm not too sore about how 2015 ended up though (in real life).
I absolutely agree with you on this one! In fact this was the first game that came to mind. The only issue with winning this game is our beloved Buckeyes may have never had a fire lit under them like it seemed the loss did. Beyond that I do believe with all the talent on last years team I think they could've turned it around after a close win against MSU and taken it to Iowa in the B1G championship making that game much more exciting! Lmao. And then obviously in to the playoffs and possibly another Natty!!
The main reason I don't think if change any other is due to the possible repurcussions it may have on our current state! Any slightest change in our past could obviously have a huge ripple effect and we could be without Urban Meyer at this point. For me that would be utterly devastating because who knows who would be coaching the Buckeyes!! Maybe someone good but maybe someone not.
I had knee surgery the day before this game. I was so drugged up on pain pills I didn't even know what was going on. It was 3 days later that I watched the game on the DVR and holy crap, I almost blew out my other knee yelling at the tv. 2009 USC definitely hurt.
Easily my choice as well. I've never gotten over that one. Unforgivable game.
I also choose it largely because it probably wouldn't have changed the course of events. Ohio State would still have gone on to lose to Purdue and wind up in the Rose Bowl against Oregon. Pete Carroll would finish 7-5 instead of 8-4, and still bolt for Seattle. The game would have done nothing to affect Tressel's eventual fate. It might have eased the 3-year reputation of losing on a national stage at night - but that would have faded the second after USC lost to Washington the following week. It would have done nothing for Ohio State's reputation against the SEC.
Why pick it then? Because it would have felt REALLY good. It was USC. We still haven't beaten them since 1974. We lost that game because of everything Jim Tressel's style came to represent. And at that moment, I was pretty sick and tired of it. Punting on 4th and 11 from USC's 36??? With Terrell Pryor??? It was indefensible, and I was ready for a change at the top to get back to winning big games with big talent. It was the moment I turned on Tressel. If I ever get a moment alone with him, this is the game I'm most likely to bring up saying, "2009 USC - WTF, man?!"
1998 Michigan St game. Still pissed about that one
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This would be mine as well, or perhaps the 1996 UM game.
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I'd take 98 back but maybe Tressel never happens then.
The '98 game was the worst I ever felt after watching a game of football. I went to bed and curled up in a fetal position. What made it so bad is that noonme expected it. I remeber Herby giving odds of the top teams losing that week and OSU was 0%. Ohio State was sooo much better than every team in cfb that year. Add to it that we have not experienced 2002 or 2014...it was 30 years since the last natty. It was the pain of '95, '96, and '97. I think anyone who lived through them all...will say '98.
2nd would be 1997 TTUN...OSU has a chance at a natty a ttun would still be looking for their first 1/2 NC in the last 68 yrs.
I hate Sparty because of that game and my hatred has grown by several levels of magnitude in the past few seasons
I agree 100%, Soul Patrol. "Pissed" is exactly the right word to describe how I felt that day. I hurt like hell when we lost to Florida in the Natty; but even though I loved the team we had that year, I accepted that we lost to the stronger team that day. I most certainly did *not* feel that way in 1998. Add in the Saban factor and this question is a no-brainer for me.
Yep the Saban factor made that loss even worse.
That was Pre-Saban Saban though, only a shadow of his current form, not unlike Belichick when he was coaching the Browns
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There never was a pre Saban Saban. He's always been the devil. Just in different forms
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Bo Schembechler: Student of Woody;
Gary Moeller: Player for Woody;
Lloyd Carr & Rich Rodriguez: Owned by Tressel;
Brady Hoke: Owned by donuts;
Jim Harbaugh: Owned by Urban to the tune of 42-13.
Absolutely yes. OSU was a favorite in any bowl game against any opponent. This one hurt the most, for me.
Agree, no doubt about it. That 1998 team was LOADED beyond belief. I'll never forget, I was stationed in Sigonella,Sicily, we're watching AFN next morning because time difference, and there was a big game on, and all of a sudden John Saunders comes on, and says 'let's go to where the upset of the day is happening in Columbus,OH'. Watched those last four plays, and almost put a hole through the wall, then started drinking!
No question. We were so so stacked. How on earth did that happen? (Actually, don't tell me...)
"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.
This one and it's not even close.
Agree 100%! My husband and I were stationed in Monterey, CA and both of us almost got in a fight with a UCLA husband and wife combo shooting their stupid mouths off at a bar. We were so pissed.
1998 Sparty. I went to every game home and away that year. I rarely talk smack to a visiting team's fans, but there were some Sparty fans sitting near me in AA deck (basically on the track) I gave some business to when the Bucks went up 24-9 on the interception return for a touchdown.
How did that team lose to Bill F-----g Burke?
In 69 I believe if OSU won The Game we would have won the National Championship because the B1G had a no repeat Rose Bowl rule.
If you will it dude, it is no dream
Wolverines marched through a sport still in its infancy en route to another triumphant national title that only reptiles and one elderly Italian widow can truly cherish.
Awesome Ramzy. Saving this one for my UM buddies once the rhetoric heats up again in a couple of months.
And in no way would I alter the outcome of the 2006 Natty, unless there is a guarantee that change in no way impacts Urban's eventual arrival in Columbus.
"An Ohio State setback" was the qualifier. I would take back the decision to play in the Gator Bowl.
That was indeed a setback. Gave us our 7th loss. Unheard of.
This is a great one. Maybe we don't get the bowl ban in 2012, and Urban Meyer goes undefeated and beats ND for a national championship in his first year. Doesn't really change our timeline. The 2013 recruiting class is still solid, and the 2014 team still comes together to win it all. Makes the Buckeyes hard to keep out of the playoff in 2015 even.
07 natty game..damn you roy hall
2015 MSU game
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The 2007 National Championship game (the LSU one not the Florida one). I was there and would have been awesome to see in person.
"I'm not going to lie. We're anxious to be a part of a matchup like that. It's two states that love the game of football." -Jim Tressel
Agree with the LSU loss. Back to back Natty losses to SEC schools blew. Tough to say was a win there would have meant for the following year or coaching situations. The next year we lost to USC Penn State and Texas in the bowl game. That year wasn't too much fun either
This is the game I vote for. Both teams entered losing late in the season. We held a 10-0 lead at one point. Nearly blocked a punt for a TD or safety. Winning this game would have washed the disgust from the 06 fiesta bowl outta my mouth.
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The setback I would reverse would be our basketball loss to Cincinnati in 1961. Hey, you said "an Ohio State setback from an era". I was ten years old at the time and that team with Jerry Lucas, John Havilchek, Mel Nowell etc were my heroes. They had won the national championship the year before against Cal and were coming back for more. My heroes couldn't lose....but they did. I was heart broken. To tell you the truth, i still don't feel too good about it. Anyway, that's my worse OSU loss. In football, I think it was that loss to Michigan State in 1998. We definitely had the best team in the country that year and somehow lost to MSU at home at night after squandering a big lead. We should have ended the national championship drought that year.
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National Championship vs Florida; as a program, conference, region and fanbase we took a lot of flack for it. If we won, we are talking about an all-time great team. They would have beaten #2 three times. Whether or not we get Urban Meyer later on is up for debate, but I would trade that outcome in a heartbeat.
I selfishly agree. I spent my graduation money going to that game.
Witnessing the OSU win in Pasadena over Oregon in 2010 was a little consolation.
I agree that this is the game to change. That SEC v. B1G narrative probably doesn't materialize, we probably still get Urban (because John Brantley) and Troy is probably regarded as the greatest QB in school history.
Troy is still the best QB in school history in my book, but JT certainly has his sights on the throne.
If JT stays two years I have zero doubt he leaves as the greatest OSU qb of all time, and I doubt anyone would argue different once he leaves. His leadership and talent will shine through.
Ohio State didn't beat the #2 team in 2006; we were the #2 team. It doesn't make sense to use in season rankings. That's how SEC teams claim they played 7-8 ranked teams, instead of the 3 or 4 ranked teams they actually play by year end polls. In 2006, both ttun and Texas fell in the rankings to 8 and 13. Florida beat the #2 and 3 teams in the country though. If Ginn played that whole game, it would've been closer, but Urban's squad would still win. They beat us in the trenches. I don't see the validity of changing a game we lost in a blowout.
I'd change the LSU NC game. I think Ohio State should have won that game. We out gained them in yardage, but stupid and/or questionable penalties kept us from winning. We still get Urban as a coach and Les Miles is known as another coach that blows it in big games. He's a *ichigan man from Ohio after all, so he deserves it. Plus, the SEC hype train really started after the second NC loss, so a win would kill it before ESPN could run wild with that BS.
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+1 to you good sir. I also hate when people refer to beating a team by their ranking at the time you beat them. You're right about the SEC too. The first team to beat Tennessee this year will claim they beat a top 10 team because that's where they're going to start in the preseason rankings. When Tennessee eventually finishes 8-4 as per usual it is utterly ridiculous for the first team to beat them to still say they beat a top 10 Tennessee team.
I agree with you 100%.
The 2011 Michigan game. We already had Urban locked up (basically) and our streak of not losing to Michigan is obnoxiously long.
He ain't even stretch doe!!
There is never ever ever ever ever ever evvveeerrrrrr a good year to lose to Michigan, but that year was so shitty... If Ohio State hasn't lost to Michigan since 2003.. Jeez. That's not fair
We went from a Big Ten contender to lose like 3 or 4 must-wins to peak at Michigan. And we almost won it. That year needed to die but beating Michigan would make the band aid stick forever.
That kept Hoke in Michigan's good graces for longer though. They beat OSU and won the Sugar Bowl. That season really hyped their fan base into a frenzy, and made what Urban has done to them ever since that much sweeter.
1998 MSU........Damn you nick saban.......Damn you.........
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This one is difficult. I would honestly say 2015 Sparty because I have no doubt we'd be currently sitting as repeat defending national champions riding a 28 game win streak.
The loss woke up the coaching staff and made them call plays to go out and win instead of calling plays to not lose. Warriner may still be down on the field and Beck being primary play caller. Pre-MSU Buckeyes were not going to win the national championship. Post-MSU, yeah I could see that, but the loss was the catalyst.
I would sell a Fiesta Bowl win for a shot at the natty.
We'll never know for sure, but I suspect changes were coming regardless. Urban was not going to lose to tun in that insane coach up north's first season. Our team was going to go all out. If we beat sparty by 3 points with similar offensive struggles, I bet Warriner still ends up in the booth with Beck and maybe Diesel doesn't make a dumb mistake that cost him his last game at Ohio State (that was the type of mistake a player makes after losing a tough game, as well as a shot at a repeat). Plus, Zeke healed from his staff infection by the ttun game. I just hope the Big Ten never schedules sparty and ttun back to back for us again after this season. It's really hard to keep the team motivated and prepared with only a week between those games.
I have to agree ... my sentiments exactly!
Many games to choose from ... but most recent memory hurts the most, and that would have huge impact on where we are today.
because I couldn't go for 3!
96 Michigan game. After that probably 69 UM game or the OSU Rose Bowl loss to Vermeil's UCLA squad.
What about 2011 against Nebraska though? Watching Joey B play in the second half was just demoralizing
But that would have deprived us of this magical meme
Hard choices here. losses in big games seem to sting the most. For me 07 Natty.
Agreed - too many to choose from however this one probably stings more as I was at this game.
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There are no chest pains. His deteriorating health is more manageable. He's still coaching in Gainesville right now. Ohio State hires, like, Kevin Sumlin or Mark Dantonio instead.
This is all I could think of reading this article
07 Florida or 08 LSU to prevent the OSU < SEC talk, or 98 MSU because ouch.
Personally, I think I would choose the 2013 Big Ten title game vs MSU. We win that game and then we play a very beatable Florida State for the national title.
We would have played Florida State had we won that game. Notre Dame was 2012
I wouldn't call that FSU team very beatable. They beat Clemson 51-14 on the road.
Thanks for the heads up!
Eh? FSU would have embarrassed us. Jameis and Kelvin Benjamin would have torn our already-bad secondary to pieces, much like Sammy did all by himself.
yup, either that or clemson (preventing braxton's injury)
you know, as long as it doesn't undo the national title the next year.
When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.
The worse loss for me was the 2007 BCS title game. It was worse than literally any nightmare scenario I had prior to the game...and I am a very strong pessimist. I was physically ill the day after and I didn't drink a drop of booze. I would love to reverse that scenario...but I think I'd reverse the 2008 BCS title game; especially if Coach Meyer's status would change as a result of 2007. It was the perfect opportunity for vindication from the previous title game. After it was over I knew that Tressel's offense could not compete with the upper echelon of college football. Winning that would have not only redeemed us, but it would have ended or at least dampened the B1G trashing on every TV network and new publication that resulted largely from those two embarrassing losses to the SEC.
1921 vs Oberlin College. Those smug bastards won't quit chirping about it!
LSU BCS championship game appears to be the one with the least risk. Urban still flames out in Florida. We lose 1 championship as a favorite but come back the next year as underdogs and win it, making it all a wash. Tatgate still happens. I think LSU is the jenga move that has the least chance of blowing up what we have now.
Plus, it mutes the SEC fans a bit.
You would have the power to give the 1902 Buckeyes their first-ever win against their rival while relieving the Wolverines of a natty they still proudly celebrate today.
Yep, they do. A deluded bunch if I ever saw one. And Hairball is going to bring them back to those glory years!
My first inclination is the 07 NC game, but a large part of me has gained an appreciation for the changes that game sparked. We couldn't perpetuate our weaknesses after that. We had to become better, faster, stronger. And we did.
My gut says 2005 vs Texas. I don't think I've ever felt worse after a loss than that one, even considering our recent travails against Sparty. We had that Texas game, but we just gave it away, on the field and from the sideline. I still get a pit in my stomach every time i see a Longhorn jersey.
My gut says 2005 vs Texas.
Ryan Hamby agrees
I would simply change history by allowing Hamby to hold onto that pass.
Or maybe the 2005 Penn State game. We win that one and we might have been in the BCS championship game that year with a team that was playing better at the end of the year than either 2006 or 2007.
They're all chickens. The rooster has sex with all of them.
No we wouldn't have. Texas and USC were the undisputed (and undefeated) 1 and 2 that year, and even beating Penn State would have made us 11-1. We had no shot at the NCG that year.
We'd need both Texas and Penn State wins to have played for it all. Even then I don't think our offense would have been able to keep up with Leinart, Bush and USC.
2015 to Sparty seems to be an easy choice, but it has always been my feeling that last year's squad, for all its talent, had a loss in them somewhere, and if it wasn't against Sparty maybe it comes in the next week against Michigan. It's some dark magic we're playing with here, and we should be careful what we wish for.
I was too young, but heard about that game growing up late 70's early 80's.
Buckeyes had already defeated UCLA earlier that season - Arch, Corny Greene, Pete Johnson, Baschnagel...that team was loaded (typing this in the voice of my uncle, who was crushed by the upset).
This was the first game that came to mind for me. I can remember watching it and asking my dad how the Buckeyes could possibly lose so badly to a UCLA team they had destroyed early in the season. It made absolutely no sense to a Second Grader. For my money, this game would have the least ramifications. Another NC for Woody and the Buckeyes, and it's a full two years before the infamous Gator Bowl.
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Late 70's were tough for Buckeye fans.
The only memory of that game I have is my father dejectedly rising up from his chair and walk over to turn off the television.
Matter of seconds, but that image is forever etched to memory - must've been my first recollection of a Buckeye disappointment (and still had the late 80's and 90's to look forward to -sigh).
Just a couple years later, we move to southwest Virginia, I turn to pro football and become a Redskins fan. My father cursed Dick Vermeil every time they played the Eagles (while he coached) because "he got damn lucky against Woody" in early '76.
So here's to a new scene, 40 years later. My son stays up with daddy and watches the Buckeyes get one back in January.
It's interesting as I look at the OSU Championship years. Buckeye fans born between 1930 and about 1963 got to see, to experience and to remember a National Championship for their team when they were young (grade school thru college). Those of us born from about 1964-1997 never really experienced a championship in our youth. We may have been alive in '68 (I don't really count '70), but we weren't aware, don't really remember it well, or may not have appreciated it. Winning the 1976 Rose Bowl would have changed that for a lot of fans, and would've reduced the drought significantly. Every time I look at those lighted signs in The Shoe, I'm amazed by the size of that gap between 1968 (OK, 1970) and 2002. That gap was painful if you were a youngster in Ohio in the 70's, 80's and 90's.
May our children never know our pain. It's good to be a Buckeye.
Well stated (I'm 47) and it was damn tough until Tressel came along, I'm forever in his debt. My kids (4 ages 15-22) have no clue what it feels like to LOATH *ichigan, and I hope they never will...
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(I'm 47) and it was damn tough until Tressel came along, I'm forever in his debt.
Yep, yep and yep. 2002 was oh so sweet, and both our kids were alive for that one.
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1975 Rose Bowl is the one you are referring to...it still stings.
Undefeated, Archie has his SECOND Heisman, playing a team we had beat earlier in the year 41-20 at their field... How did that happen?
It was the 1975 season, but the Rose Bowl Game was played on Jan 1, 1976.
I concur. I think Woody may have retired on his own terms.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.
Woody admitted to my Mom that he might have retired on top had they beaten UCLA in 76
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OSU vs Florida for all the marbles. I believe Urban still finds his way to Columbus but I would love for Troy and Ginn to finish their career with the title that they deserved.
Would 07/10 still have ended up with Ginn's shoes if we won that game?
That Stanford loss in the 71 Rose Bowl (1970 season) was hard to swallow. That Bucks team was overwhelmingly good. But we played terrible that day.
Even still we had the lead entering the 4th quarter and let it slip away. Many people don't know this but Woody had to convince the players to even go to that Rose Bowl. They had so thoroughly hated the experience Woody put them thru for the 68/69 game against USC (no festivities, 2 a day practices, housing them in a monastery in the mountains rather than in town, the players actual met with Woody and told them they didn't want to go.
They told him why and he agreed to send the team 3 days earlier to allow them to see the sites etc. But once on the plane backed off that promise and started pegging guys for practice the next day while still on the plane. The players revolted and Woody threatened to send them back to Columbus, and the players told him, then send us back..calling his bluff.
Woody back off but the bitter taste was already in their mouths. Woody would later admit to failing to keep his team focused as a unit and his own behavior perhaps driving unfocussed play.
The play that day showed it too. First drive stalled at the Stanford 39, the 2nd drive was a 3 and out essentially due to a bad pitch. Stanford had 10-0 lead by then. We then got focused and drove for back to back TDs to take 14-10 lead. we then drove down inside the Stanford 5 and bogged down only to have a FG blocked. So that even though by half time we had 4 more 1st downs and ran almost 20 more plays we only lead by 4.
After giving up another Stanford FG to make it 14-13 to start the 2nd half, we would drive to within the Stanford 10 and on 2nd and goal would get called for clipping forcing us to kick a FG to make it 17-13. We got the ball back at out own 6 and drove to the Stanford 20 but Woody chose not to kick another FG on 4th and 1, but Brockington would be stopped.
Stanford drove but had 3rd and 15 from the Buckeye 37 and completed a 35 yard pass that allowed them to take the lead.
Kern then threw a pick at how own 28, Stanford punched it in again to go up by the final margin. For the game we had more 1st downs, more yards and more plays run and won the TO battle but still lost, hard to take back when I was just 8 years old
Tough game but thankfully this was the final year they would crown a National Champion before post-season bowl games were played. Or else, we'd be down a National Title!
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Definitely the 1969 OSU vs UM game. That whole ordeal put UM back on the map. Who knows what could have happened if we had won that game. Since Woody had taken over in 1951, he went 12-6 against Michigan prior to the 1969 game. He would lose 3 straight games to UM to end his career... We also entered a very dark time as far as bowl games went. Lost 4 of 5 Rose Bowl games between 1971-1976. The Rose Bowl game we won in 1974 would have crowned us National Champions except for the fact that we tied Michigan to end the regular season
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I saw Ryan Day hang 62 on Michigan...His hair was perfect.
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I was going to say that if you didn't Beattun. A one point loss in the last game - costing us an undefeated season and a national championship in the process. It would have also given Earle Bruce his only national championship. That would have been nice -
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I have to pick the 76 Rose Bowl. Not only does Woody probably ride off into the sunset a winner, Archie gets the thing he desired more than both Hiesmans. Rumor was that Woody would have retired had they won, thus saving us from what happened two years later. We could have still ended up with Earle, or maybe the good vibes of how Woody exits means a top tier coach to continue the run.
If Woody had retired, perhaps Holtz comes from Arkansas instead of going to the Jets.
12-0 and a chance to go 13-0
In another universe ttun still sucks...
Or even West Lafayette in 2009
Add 2003 Camp Randall to that as well. Stupid Lee Evans and his chair route leaving Chris Gamble in the dust.
I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..
I agree on this one, though there would have been a natty to vacate for that year if they don't lose vs. WI.
Be right back, going to go repeatedly hit myself in the hand with a tack hammer for about an hour.
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I'm still relatively young, so the most excruitating games I've watched in person were B1G Championship in 2013, @ Penn State in 2005 and the Juice Williams game in 2007.
Watching the offense go 3 and out in the 4th quarter against the Illini and then never touch the ball again was terrible. If we win that game, then we go into the 2007 BCS title game deserving to be there as opposed to backing our way in with a ton of luck and other upsets. May have changed the perception of the team and the conference a little bit.
THIS^. Boeckman was never the same after that Illinois game. Granted he was never great but that whole year he played solid. Made some great throws. After that game it all went downhill for him.
Better people. Better food. Better beer.
I have to agree with the Juice Williams game for selfish reasons. That was the only game my dad has ever seen in person. He refuses to go to any other game after seeing the Buckeyes lose in the Shoe.
Gotta be the 1998 MSU game. That one physically hurt. I still think Coops slide would have been about the same...Glad to see someone else still upset about Tennessee and their illegal cleats.
Ah yes, the "friendly" Tennessee based equipment-supplier mixup... And of course the officials couldn't do anything about it beforehand - when Cooper pointed it out - b/c the ruler hadn't been invented yet...
Michigan then hires differently under those circumstances. For example, Urban Meyer would have been available. And he would have listened.
1969 loss to UM although the 1998 loss to MSU ranks a close second. That 69 team was flat out steam-rolling everyone and after the NC the year before was being hailed as one of the greatest - if not the greatest - teams ever. To make matters worse, I was in the Outhouse that day and believe me when I say that was a LONG ride back to Columbus.
i think I'm ready for this question since I've been asking it for 25 years. I usually pick 3 games that would have been nice at the time. Maybe the 2007 Florida title game too. That one hurt.
1976 Rose Bowl- for Archie, Woody's soft landing.
1980 Rose Bowl - for coach Bruce
1996 Michigan game - for God's sake and Cooper
I agree with the 1996 Michigan game. If we had won that game and the Rose Bowl would have played out the way that it ended up playing out, we would have won the National Title. Period. That team was stacked in its own right, maybe not quite as stacked as the 1995 or 1998 versions, but still stacked none the less. This games still pains me when you think about the what ended up happening against ASU in the Rose Bowl. Looking through my scarlet colored glasses, I still think that team deserved a share of that title with UF.
06-07 Florida championship, basketball edition. Would have been huge for Thad Matta and the whole program. Either that or the11-12 final four game against Kansas, would have loved to see Craft and Sully get a title.
So many I wish could be reversed, but the way it *could* change history makes you think for sure. Since I don't have too many memories of games pre-Cooper era, I would choose from him on through today.
1993, 1995, 1996, 2011 Michigan game(s); 1998, 2013, 2015 MSU game(s); 2005 Texas; 2006/2007 National Championship Game(s); 2009 USC
The one that would seem to have the least impact on the course of history (there is no guarantee that we win the natty last year if we beat MSU - that team needed a wake up call and it probably would have happened at some point - Up North, BIG Champ, or Playoff; or how it will affect the team's mindset this year), would seem to be the National Championship against LSU. Although at the time, I wasn't really expecting us to win, it sure would have felt great and erased some of the misery from the year before against Florida. That's the only one I would consider. Side note to that one changing: Beating Bama in the Sugar Bowl felt THAT much better after losing twice to the SEC and then that conference going on it's run for almost a decade. It still would have felt great to be Bama, but I think it felt that much better because of consecutive losses less than 10 years prior.
The other one that stung the worst for me (2013 MSU), was avenged ever so sweetly the next year in East Lancing. That's good enough for me, plus I don't think the 2013 Buckeyes beat FSU in Pasadena, unfortunately.
I'm going to cheat. The one I want back is MSU vs UM 2015. If UM wins that game, OSU still wins the East, and gets the wake-up call. I went to the espn app on the roku and watched every angle of that muffed kick a dozen times, bathing in the freudenschade. Karma is a B.
Nope, Not the Whole Damn State!
Crap on a crap cracker. Schadenfreude. Words is hard.
1996 "slip" up against scUM or 1980 Rose Bowl in Earle Bruce's first year
1980 Rose Bowl.
Watching Michigan lose at home on the last play of the game to MSU was worth a national championship.
However, it didn't cost the Buckeyes a NC. Losing at home with the most talented roster in the country cost them the title.
Born in the year of Woody's first National Championship. Mom used to sing for me "Across the Field" as a lullaby. I've raved in Bucknut ecstasy and wallowed in abject misery as well. If that makes me a bipolar Ohio State Buckeye fan... then SO BE IT.
From my profile. It still rings true even now, after 50 years of Buckeye fandom.
Our beloved Buckeyes have been so close in so many championship games, and yet so far. But I still would rather see them in the hunt for a title than not.
And remember Teddy Roosevelt's Man in the Arena:
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes
Always a UV for a TR reference, Harley. I remember as a child with only a passing familiarity with him, wondering how he got on Mt Rushmore with all the greats. Later - as I learned more about him, I wondered how they got up there with him.
(Well - maybe not anything quite that severe - Washington was a bad-ass - but you get the point) -
If nothing else, Phi, we football fans owe a great debt of gratitude to Teddy for helping save the game of American football. He was a great President, and my appreciation of him grows every year. Gracias.
wondering how he got on Mt Rushmore with all the greats.
Without question, his selection was the most controversial. Americans at that time still knew him and had lived under his Presidency and governorship. I had the pleasure of serving aboard his namesake (CVN-71). Truly a great American.
LSU BCS game. Urban would still rise and end up at Ohio State and the Buckeyes would have had some SEC redemption.
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
I'm too sad to choose. My immediate gut reaction went something like 1998 MSU; no, wait, 2005 Texas; hang on, 2015 MSU; but why not FL natty or LSU natty?.....
Basketball edition: 2010-2011 loss to Kentucky in NCAA tournament. Buford going unbelievably cold and passing up a wide open Diebler on the last second shot only to throw yet another brick. That team was no doubt the best in the country. That one stung quite a bit for me.
I am here for the same reason you are.
Logged on to make this comment. I would change that game too! That team was the best in the NCAA that year tournament be damned.
"you can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning"
If Ohio State doesn't lose to Michigan state last year I don't think they find the fire in their bellies to stomp Harbaugh into oblivion for his first outing as a HC in the game... I honestly think that loss was somewhat of a blessing in disguise because it also led to the stomping out of the Notre Dame fire... So if I have to trade a Sparty loss and in exchange get to absolutely stomp out the scum up north and the Irish... It's not a bad trade.
Let's face it, the team was lethargic at best heading into that stretch to end the season. Michigan, to that point, was bringing game every week, and had we not lost to Sparty we would've trudged into Ann Arbor and who knows what would've happened. That loss lit the fire that burned down the big house last season. Just my opinion, but I can stomach that Michigan state loss especially looking at their roster, they won't be that loaded with talent like that for a while. We lost to the best Sparty team in the history of Sparty IMO.
If I have to turn back a loss, it IS a Sparty loss, but not that one. Give me back the 2013 B1G ten championship game against Sparty. Give me back that one, give me the Natty birth against Florida State, and give me Urban and crew vs. Jamies Winston. I would have loved to see what Braxton could've done vs. a Florida State defense, and we all know the Buckeyes would've been severe underdogs, and we know how Urban relishes the role of underdog.
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
I have to go with the LSU title game, or perhaps Earle's Rose Bowl. I think these two have the fewest ramifications for the current track we're on, and wouldn't have altered past history much.
With the LSU game, Meyer still has his track at FL and still flames out. Tatgate probably still happens, so Tress - two titles and all - still gets canned. Meyer still comes to OSU.
If Earle wins his first Rose Bowl, it could have meant another title - although it could have been split with Bama. It could have made OSU a bigger destination, and maybe Bruce does better than 9-3 for the next five years, or maybe not. Ed Jennings would still be an asshat and would have found some reason to jettison Earle.
One other choice could be the Fickel Gator Bowl, but instead of flipping that from a loss to a win, I'd choose for that game to just go away altogether as part of a self-imposed bowl ban. That probably puts an undefeated OSU against Notre Dame in the Natty that first season for Meyer, and that I think is a fully winnable game.
1978 Gator Bowl vs. Clemson. A little piece of a young NB91 died that day as I watched a childhood hero go down in flames.
Maybe the punch never happens, and Coach Hayes doesn't lose his job. Maybe OSU still lets him go, or maybe he chooses to retire. At least Woody could have gone out with a win and his dignity.
Agreed!!! I can remember watching that as a 9 yr old and being completely crushed.
I would go with the title game loss to LSU in the 2007 season. I think that's the only major game that could be reversed and not negatively affect where we are now.
I would say the Florida loss over the LSU loss because if we would have beat them and then loss the LSU it wouldn't have looked so bad. Beating Florida first then losing to LSU looks better than losing to Florida first then beating LSU because people are more effected by first impressions. That Florida game really made Ohio State's reputation take a big hit. The LSU game wasn't so bad we were in that game for a while.
Not necessarily true. People are what have you done lately kind of people.
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touch choice (for me) to pick between the 2006 Nat'l Championship game loss to Florida, or the 1970 Rose Bowl loss to Stanford (which cost OSU at least a share of the NC)...
I could also throw in the 1996 loss to @#$%ing *ichigan, or the 1998 loss to MSU (both cost OSU potential NC's)...
15-1 is SWEET!
I was not there but my wife and I watched on TV and we were screaming and yelling like crazy until the last couple of minutes when Chuck White just ran right through the buckeye defense ... the 1980 Rose Bowl.
Final score USC 17 - tOSU 16
The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes
I'm with you. We kick a FG late that should have been a TD and then go into a prevent defense. The one thing people don't realize is that we went for more yardage on the second to last play and got nothing resulting in our FG falling 2 yards short of pulling it out. In 1980 a receiver fumbles after the catch that would have sealed that NC. The refs cheated us out an NC at MSU in the seventies by letting players lay on the ground and not stopping the clock after a play at their goal line. We got a play in time but the officials wouldn't stand up and say so with fans on the field.
Last year's MSU game... no freakin reason we lost that game other than self inflicted wounds via play calling.
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For me personally, it's 2009 vs Purdue. I've been more pissed off and sick to my stomach about loses before and after this game, but this was the first time I found myself questioning whether or not we might be better off looking for Jim Tressel's replacement. Don't get me wrong I love the guy and everything he was able to do for this program, but after that game I sort of came to the realization that we've peaked under him as a program. We weren't going to be able to keep up with the rest of the big time players in college football playing Tresselball. Instead, we'd keep having high hopes for a talented team but once a season end up losing some game we shouldn't or getting smacked in a big time bowl game any time we played top team with some speed. Erasing this loss wouldn't be program changing but I hated having the thought we might be better off with some up and coming coach, with a more modern offense, than we were with Tressel.
05 Texas kinda sucked. Id like that win back. "MAN UP HAMBY"
Geez. I wanted to make a pick, but got so depressed reading this thread, I don't have the energy to pick a game! LOL.
If I had one.....I'd take a victory over LSU in the natty....for a bit of SEC redemption. Even if we beat MSU last year, Bama gets even in the playoff IMHO.
The 2008 game against USC was almost as unwatchable as the national championship game against Florida.
That game was frightening to watch. We were defeated before the second drive. You could see the fear in the players and coaches. Carroll was nice enough not to put up 60 on us because he could have.
Last year vs. Sparty.
After watching Bama win the Natty, I felt disgusted knowing that they weren't the best team last season.
Tom Brady lost to John Cooper. Never forget.
It was a bad game, no doubt. We played our worst game of the year and lost on a last second field goal. The upside was watching MSU get blanked against Bama. A clear message to MSU that they are not in the big boy club.
Really, droid? For a team not in the "big boy club", Sparty has beaten our Buckeyes 3 times in the recent five years, last year with their 2nd and 3rd team QBs in our house......twice costing Urban Meyer a shot at a NC.
Yes, they got their azzes handed to them by Bama, but to suggest Sparty is not among the big boys, when you look at their recent record, is just sour grapes and moreover, innacurate.
Recent history, yes they have been legit. But last year, that sparty team was sub-par. They caught us with a sick Zeke, on a weird weather night, in a bad place with the confusion with the play calling, and the whole 2 QB fiasco. Sparty was a good team last year, but nothing like the 2 or 3 years previous to that.
1976 Rose Bowl v. UCLA. Archie and Woody NC, after they trounced UCLA bad in the regular season. That hurt.
Maybe Dobbins will get tired. Michigan Man, 11-30-2019
How can people feel pain from 30-40 and 50 years ago???? Move on people!
Maybe you're in the wrong place.
How can people NOT feel "pain" from historic disappointments? OSU football was huge WAY before your lifetime. If you don't care about the tradition and bleed it, you're just a band wagoneer. :-)
I want back the 1969 Meatchicken Loss. We and Woody might have done a 3-peat. How cool would that have been?
Hey BucksHave7, what loss compares to THAT one (2007 Fiesta, Biakabatuka game, and 88 MSU loss are runners up)
GO BUCKS! Siempre!
My undergrad degree from 1994 has The Ohio State University across the top. I already stated last years Mich State loss was toughest given all the talent we had, Zeke in the rain and Okla ends up getting that 4th playoff spot. tOSU got robbed and should have been in the playoff. Also the fact that TTUN couldn't punt to end the game and lost to Mich State keeping tOSU outa B10 playoff made it worse!
Someone above already said it but I'll say it again, '09 USC. Oh well.
It's all in the reflexes - Me
Tough call between MSU last year and the NC vs Florida. I think both teams had the talent to win but just did not execute/did not have a good enough game plan. I guess this is why coaches make the big bucks. All the talent in the world cannot overcome bad coaching/bad decision making from the box.
I still have nightmares about Sparty beating us last year. A backup QB doing the job. But, how about Earle's first year in the Rose Bowl against USC. USC was loaded with Marcus Allen, Charles White, Anthony Munoz, and a group of talented players. But, we had a chance to win the game and did not. And that game decided the National Championship as well. USC., OSU, and somebody else were 1, 2, and 3 going into that game. The "somebody" lost their Bowl Game and it was a battle between OSU and USC for number 1. And OSU did everything but win the damn game. And therefore, they did not win the National Championship. USC was far more talented. But, when push came to shove, OSU could not get over the hump. GO BUCKS!
Actually, USC held the top spot most of the season until they tied Stanford. Alabama then took over #1 in both polls. Going into the bowls, It was Bama, USC and OSU in the Coaches poll and OSU, Bama, USC in the AP poll. Bama beat Arkansas (#6 pre-bowl) to finish 12-0, and OSU lost by 1 to USC, who finished #2. The Bucks finished #4. Had they beaten USC, they would have probably split the title with Alabama, although you have to wonder if maybe the coaches would have bumped OSU over the Tide, having just beaten #2.
2013 B1G Championship Game. Win-and-In BCS Title Game (Rose Bowl) against FSU. Who I believe we would have crushed.
I would agree with this *if* we beat Clemson that year. The team may have felt deflated after losing to B1G championship, but its hard to say we would have won the Natty if we didn't win our bowl game. But maybe a conference championship would have given the momentum we needed to beat FSU. We'll never know.
1998 Michigan State loss: We were the best team in the country, and many sports writers throughout the country said so even after we won the bowl. But it was the flaw of the system (and still is) lose early a team is forgiven, lose late and a team has no chance for redemption.
I also would go with the 1998 MSU loss as that kept us out of the first BCS championship game.
Let's Go Bucks
Purdue Harbor? I actually sat through that shit storm.
The Biakabatuka loss to TTUN, 100%. It was like being sucker punched in a dark alley.
Losses to Florida, LSU, USC, Texas ... you can at least acknowledge that those were elite teams. I can handle that.
I suppose it's how Wisky felt after Cardale beat them down 59-0.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
If I could change any one result it would be 2006-2007 NCG against Florida. A win there would've solidified Tress and Troy as the GOAT's. My second choice would probably be 2005 Texas. That was a heartbreaker and we may have played for a national title if we didn't lose that.
Honorable mention: 2009 USC.
It's tough. If everything that has happened since the game with the altered outcome would stay the same, I would definitely pick the OSU/Florida BCS Championship Game. OSU takes the L to LSU a year later and people can chalk it up to "it's really hard to repeat as national champions".
Since we have to consider that events since the game with the altered outcome would also be altered, my choice is the Sparty game from last year. And I would change exactly one play from that game. The final play.
Instead of MSU's kicker drilling the game winner and air guitaring across the field of the 'Shoe, OSU blocks that fucker and takes it back for 6 as time expires. OSU 20, MSU 14. This way, OSU ends the game with the same, pathetic 132 yards of total offense. The offensive coaches still get their heads out of their asses and finally figure out the offense, allowing the Buckeyes to still eviscerate TTUN the following week.
Then, it's OSU vs Iowa for the B1G Championship. I believe OSU wins that no problem. After finishing the season undefeated with wins over three top 10 teams in MSU, TTUN, and Iowa, the Buckeyes get the #1 seed in the playoff. The semifinals are #1 OSU vs #4 Oklahoma and #2 Clemson vs #3 Alabama. OSU and Bama win the semis, OSU beats Bama for the 2nd straight year for their 2nd straight title. OSU still kicks major ass in 2016 and 2017 recruiting. Maybe that stupid ass meme that floated around prior to the Sugar Bowl vs Bama gets reversed and it's Urban that actually makes Saban quit football. That last part may be a stretch
Class of 2010.
I personally wouldn't change a thing. Are there moments from my lifetime that hurt so bad that I can still feel the sting? Absolutely. But the ups and downs are what have made Buckeye Nation what we are, and it's these heart wrenching ordeals that make our return to the elite that much sweeter. There has never, ever been a more exciting time in my lifetime to be a Buckeye, and I can't possibly think of a better outcome from it all.
either Tim Bjopjfofdakfadka running loose for TTUN
or when Desmond Coward struck that F*CKING pose
Ha, those are my 2 also. Still have bad memories whenever I hear 313, no matter what the source. That game was the very definition of going through the motions. F#*k Howard. I've said it before, I'll say it again: If I was there, I would have tackled him right there in the end zone and it would have most definitely been flagged for targeting. Ohio boys don't act like that. No wonder he went to that cesspool.
I'd reverse the outcome of the 1998 game against MSU.
Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.
1998 Michigan state. That team was loaded. Losing at home broke me.
Losing to Saban and MSU in 1998 was rough.
The 98 MSU debacle left me in a daze.
Especially since I was living in Los Angeles at the time and UCLA was (believe it or not) ranked #2 or 3. So me and a handful of Buckeyes were watching the game surrounded by Bruin fans at a packed sports bar, and when Germaine threw that last-second interception - the place exploded. I'll never forget that deafening noise...
"Hell, Woody didn't recruit me; he recruited my mother!" -Jack Tatum
2007 BCS vs LSU, simply because that team had no business playing for a Natty. If only Austin Spitler had blocked that punt.
I originally thought the one against Florida but I'm going to go with our loss of Clarett.
Thinking outside the tackle box. I like it.
IMO, the game (s) must have national title implications to be most relevant. Beating MSU last yr doesnt guarantee a title but the BCS loss to LSU in 2006 is one and I was at the Stanford Rose Bowl loss and remember the OSU crowd yelling " Texas lost , Texas lost " in the fourth quarter. But Plunkett down and outs to Randy Vataha and between the tackles runs by the Cardinal FB ( I dont remember his name) kept the ball away from our offense and yet another title for the seniors who had became famous as the Super Sophs in 1968.
The TTUN loss in 1969. It scarred me since I was only 6 and thought the Bucks would undefeated 3 years in a row, I have never had a team I root for win 2 championships in a row. Not sure what would be second (Stanford in 1971, USC in 81, or LSU in 07). Thanks for bringing up bad memories, now I have to drink and cry myself to sleep.
I think I'd go with either the MSU game last year or the 07 Championship Game against LSU. That's one I see having the least ripple effects that could go negative. Tress still falls on his sword for his boys, Urban still reigns from 2012 onward. The only difference is The Chase would have been for 9 instead of 8.
The only good thing about The Game is winning it - Urban Meyer
Ja feel, Ja definitely feel.
Mine would be the 2011 Sugar Bowl versus Arky. We don't play and Tat gate and all the dominoes fall the same and we still suffer the 2011 Fickell season but instead of sitting at home on sanctions watching the Domers get dismantled by Bama we do the dismantling and get a Crystal ball with UFM and rewarded for a unbeaten season.
The 1975 Rose Bowl still upsets me at age 53. It must be reversed.
Good pick, WTH. Either '75 or '76 likely results in a #1 AP ranking for the Buckeyes.
F-ing Pat Haden.
I nearly forgot the 1990 season under Cooper. Reverse the outcome of The Game, and the Buckeyes probably don't go to the Liberty Bowl and lose to Air Force, finishing 7-5-1 on the season. Or just change the outcome of the Liberty Bowl. Never should have lost that game.
1. Get 58 11W members to each select a game that was a loss to the current shit-show of a team up north. BOOM!
2. if #1 can't be done, then the 1996 game vs. TTUN or 2009 USC game or 2015 game vs MSU.....
69 loss to Michigan, in Bo's first season.
That loss last year to Michigan State in recent memory was one that made me so angry. That smug "Johnny Windmill" kicker of theirs also made it just that more irritating. I hope we smack the crap out of Sparty this season.
1976 Rose Bowl loss to UCLA----who we had destroyed earlier in the season at their place-----it was almost a "gimmee" for the National Championship and we left a turd in the punchbowl that day!
1998 game against Mich St. That is the game I would like to change the outcome of. Go Bucks
Tough call. I go with 1969. Would have been back to back champs.
1975 was tough after crushing UCLA.
The recent losses like msu were bad. But my one do over is 1969 michigan.
I'm 55 yr old and remember well the super sophomores of '68. For a long time the worst loss was '96, still see Tai Streets running up the field. That being said 2015 Michigan State takes the cake. Like Secretariat winning the Belmont. Defending national champions, college game day on campus, Conner Cook doesn't even PLAY, senior day, and the offensive game plan was deplorable. I think Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles could've had better game plan. 5 1st rounders, 2 of the top 4 picks, total of ten taken in first three rounds Can't find a way to get Braxton the ball. It's gonna take years to gain my confidence back in this offense unless changes are made. Osu may not have that much talent on one roster the rest of my life