Lane Kiffin Joins Ezekiel Elliott in Criticizing Ohio State Playcalling During Michigan State Game

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Buckeyeincleveburg's picture

Zeke had a comment or two for Kiffin during the Sugar Bowl.  Maybe he's still remembering that as well.

Alabama is in the CFP over Buckeyes because of aging biases.  They are NOT the better team.

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BrutusB's picture

They're in the CFP because they won their conference. 

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CincyOSU's picture

This. Anything else is just sour grapes. 

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TNbuckeye91's picture

i haven't noticed anyone talkin shit to you for not whining about the SEC in a while cincy.

I come from a long line; high, low, and in-between, the same as you. - Townes Van Zandt

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TNbuckeye91's picture

exactly, and we didn't take care of business. and because M lost on a fluke play to state. all kinds of reasons, none of them being an sec/bama bias.

I come from a long line; high, low, and in-between, the same as you. - Townes Van Zandt

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Boom777's picture

But the CFP does state the 4 best teams

Wherever you are, there you be!

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TNbuckeye91's picture

yeah, it does. But i tend to think, if you didn't win your conference, it's hard to objectively state that you're better than a champ of a premier conference, with the same amount of losses. Do I think Bama is a better team than tOSU? No, but it would make absolutely no sense to have tOSU over the SEC champ, along with MSU. 

I come from a long line; high, low, and in-between, the same as you. - Townes Van Zandt

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Buckeyevstheworld's picture

But i tend to think, if you didn't win your conference, it's hard to objectively state that you're better than a champ of a premier conference

Worked for Bama in 2011.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Get well soon Mrs.Naut 6-0 > 3-6.

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TNbuckeye91's picture

That was 2011, not 2014. BCS and Playoffs. There is no comparison here.

I come from a long line; high, low, and in-between, the same as you. - Townes Van Zandt

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Sledgehammer_IV's picture

to be honest, if it worked for Bama to get into the top 2, it should have worked for OSU to get into the top 4.  the argument is simple, it worked then with only 2 spots, now there are a increased 2 spots.  the goal is to put the 4 best teams in, period. 

but, this isn't ea sports ncaa football and osu can't play for the title every year.  I'm still happy with my NC last season and will be happy with a bowl win this year.  put fuel on the fire.  bottom line is, I look at it as it's a lose/lose for Bama, they don't get a chance to shut up the OSU fans in a revenge game, and they won't be going thru OSU to get a title.  Whether we took care of business or not, that doesn't mean MSU is a better team than OSU, just means they won that day, just like Ole Miss beat Bama in Alabama. 

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WorthyBuck's picture

What evidence is there that we are among the 4 best teams?  It's not like we were dominant in the rest of our schedule.  We looked rather mediocre in several games, and beat 1 ranked team all year.  We played 1 really good team, at home, on senior day, with their starting QB out, and got physically beat up and looked totally inept, managing 130 total yards and 5 first downs.  

Despite the individual talent, this team just never came together like we did last post season.  

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ScarletGray43157's picture

What evidence is there that we are among the 4 best teams?  It's not like we were dominant in the rest of our schedule.  We looked rather mediocre in several games, and beat 1 ranked team all year.  We played 1 really good team, at home, on senior day, with their starting QB out, and got physically beat up and looked totally inept, managing 130 total yards and 5 first downs.  

Despite the individual talent, this team just never came together like we did last post season.  

This is a simple and honest summary of the 2015 Ohio State football season. 

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

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Knite's picture

Yes it is true, but I tend to think this season is all on the coaches. Let us all be truful, and this goes for the MSU game mostly, the play calling was the main reason for the lack of spark this season. Oh I know there are other reasons as well, but play calling was the number one reason. Beck is a joke, he was at Nebraska and he is here too.

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BuckInNashville's picture

Worthy and Knite : 100% true - both of you combined. It was not a fun year to watch.

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Buctor's picture

They're in the CFP because they won their "conference championship."

tftfy

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Eph97's picture

Well is it conference champs or 4 best teams? Because if it is 4 best teams, an argument can be made that Ohio State is a better team than Alabama.  We will have debates like this until it goes to 8. Seems so logical and obvious, of course the powers that be screwed it up. 5 auto bids for conference champs and committee picks next 3 best teams. We will get there eventually.

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EastOHBuckeye's picture

Eight teams won't fix it, either. #9 will still have people saying they deserve to be in.

The NCAA Basketball Tournament is proof of that; they let 68 teams in, and then we start talking about how #69 got left out, and should have been in.

Unrealistic expectations will make you miserable.

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Eph97's picture

Obviously there has to be a cutoff. At least with 8 you are guaranteeing all 5 conference champs get in and worthy teams like this years OSU would get a possible shot. There will never be a perfect system, but this system of 4 is a fail from the get go because 1 conference champ will always be left out.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

We know.  Playoff guy wont be satisfied until the regular season is watered down to include teams that don't deserve to be in.  We beat 1 good team all year.  They don't deserve it.  This isn't t-ball-not everyone gets a trophy.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Couldn't have stated it any better!!!  We had the chance and didn't show up and/or were completely outplayed when it counted!  Shit happens and I'm not going to sit here an whine about Ohio State not being in the final 4 because it only makes us look petty.  In the words of Jimmy - that is the way the pickle squirts!  What we can control is kicking the ever living shit out of the domers!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

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Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Couldn't have stated it any better!!!  We had the chance and didn't show up and/or were completely outplayed when it counted!  Shit happens and I'm not going to sit here an whine about Ohio State not being in the final 4 because it only makes us look petty.  In the words of Jimmy - that is the way the pickle squirts!  What we can control is kicking the ever living shit out of the domers!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

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Sledgehammer_IV's picture

I disagree here.  NFL playoffs have been expanded and i care just as much about the regular season as i did before the regular season was watered down with the increase of playoff teams.

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GlenBuck's picture

There may be several left out.  What about a team like Houston this year?  What about the MAC, Conf USA, Mtn West, etc champs?  Someone will be left out.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

What playoff guy doesn't get is that you have 12 or 13 games to state your case.  There were lots of playoff games this year, but because they didn't occur at the end, this confuses people.  The exclusivity protects value of regular season and ensures a worthy champion will be crowned, things that no longer exists in other sports.  You are confusing the winner of a tournament with a team that had the best complete season.  As for Houston, I have enough information.  You have been conditioned to think a bracket must be filled out at the end of the season.  This is not so.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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3rdtimesacharm's picture

Every other sport can use the paper thin fbs excuse of "the regular is our playoff". Anybody who buys this is brainwashed by decades of the fbs getting it wrong. Osu is out and it doesnt bother me much anymore. The bucks arent the first or last team that will feel shafted by this set up. I just dont know any other sport where a 1 loss team can be kept from playing for a championship in the postseason. Between injuries, teams getting hot at different points, and the diversity of a schedule its diffcult to tell whos deserving. However, it is pathetic that there are 120 plus teams competing for a title and a meesly 4 get a post season opportunity to win it. My opinion of the 4 team playoff is that its a poor mans plus one. They should have done a plus one or better yet the 8 team set up.

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Sledgehammer_IV's picture

they don't even do this in all divisions of college football... just D1 and only because of $.  lets not kid our selves here.

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EastOHBuckeye's picture

Assuming that it would be power 5 champs, plus three at large, the best group of 5 team would likely get an automatic invite, too. (They get a New Year's bowl with the current system, and I think it would be fair in an 8-team field to give them a spot.)

That leaves two more spots. What if Notre Dame gets the same exception that they had in the BCS days with an 8 team playoff field? Or, possibly more likely, the committee decides that in a 8 team field, no more than two teams from the same conference get in. (After all, if you don't finish top two in your conference, do you really deserve a shot at a national championship?) That would give us...

Clemson - Houston, Alabama - Notre Dame, Michigan State - Stanford, and Oklahoma - Iowa.

Ohio State is sitting as the first team out.

Still ready for an 8-team field?

Unrealistic expectations will make you miserable.

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Sledgehammer_IV's picture

i am confident OSU would be in the final 8.  you put a 2 loss ND over OSU and 1 loss Houston in over OSU.  which wouldn't happen.  in your scenario, you appear to just put a 2 loss team in ND and a 1 loss team in Houston who is ranked #18, who is good, but not a better team just to attempt to make your point.  with 8,  your teams would likely be...

1 Clemson vs 8 OSU

2 Bama vs. 7 Iowa  

3 MSU vs. 6 ND 

4 Oklahoma vs. 5 Stanford

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The Rill Dill's picture

I have never heard anyone in the 69th spot in ANYTHING make an argument as to what they deserve.

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RileyBuckeye's picture

If USC had won their conference, you would have put them in? Your playoffs are worse. 

OH-IO

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TNbuckeye91's picture

an argument can be made that Ohio State is a better team than Alabama. 

No, there is no possible argument to be made that Ohio State is better than Bama this year. How are people still sitting here bitching about that. They didn't deserve it this year plain and simple.

I come from a long line; high, low, and in-between, the same as you. - Townes Van Zandt

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Marine Corps Buckeye's picture

I agree completely.  I have also been one to always think that if you cant prove to be the best team in your conference then you cannot be the best in the Nation.

Semper Fidelis

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BrutusB's picture

No, there isn't an argument to be made that 2015 OSU is better than 2015 alabama. They have more ranked wins, more wins vs teams over .500, and more conference titles. 

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Sledgehammer_IV's picture

I'm not saying i disagree, but i will not base a argument such as this one based on where a team is ranked during the season.  especially since the people have bias for in the SEC.

if we look at the final college football ranks, the best team Bama has played so far is Ole Miss at #12, and they lost.  Next is UF at #19, a 3 loss team, then LSU at #20, a 3 loss team, and then UT at #23 a 4 loss team.  so, they are 3-1 against ranked teams and the best team they have played, they lost to.  If they beat MSU and Clemson, i feel you have an argument, but we'll never know b/c they don't play and we all thought Bama was gonna win last year also and we know how that ended. 

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AzBuckeye45's picture

BrutusB-Yep!

"Cause I couldn't go for three!"
Woody Hayes-1968

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SpiderBuckeyes's picture

Yeah, it was easy for them to win a weak SEC conference.

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Osu1997rk's picture

The new system has individual’s judging quality of your loss, thought we wanted to get away from that which is why they did away with BCS.  Now I guess if you are going to lose, lose early??

One man that has a mind and knows it can always beat ten men who haven't and don't.

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RonnyPBuckeye's picture

Kiffin has little to brag about as to play calling given he went away from the Tide's running game in last year's Sugar Bowl and put the game in the hands of a marginal QB which the Buckeyes greatly appreciated.  Although his Nostradamus like prediction of Sim's TD pass to Vonn Bell was awesome (more so amusing).

Ronny P Buckeye

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BuckeyeLurker0509's picture

He's not lying. We should be getting ready to blown the doors off Bama again, instead we're playing in a new years day hangover recovery game. Another Irish beat down = yawn.

I'm more excited about Big Ten bball now. Wake me up for the Spring Game.

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lsjSnail's picture

Seriously, Bama is half the team they were last year. Their D-line is the only thing that could have possibly gotten better. 

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Catch 5's picture

No, the secondary is much better, the linebackers are quicker too. QB took a step back, but RB and OL is mostly a wash and while no one comes close to Cooper, the WR position is probably better overall as there are more weapons to spread the ball to.

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Buckloving's picture

I don't believe the point of the article was about how good Alabama is

bobbyd

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DLaw61's picture

I'm in total agreement with you lurker  I'm still hungover from Mich St game. I'm 54 years old and that was the worst defeat in my life, and no offensive game plan is even close to being worse. You are a coach at OSU to be prepared for those kind of games. Anyone can game plan for Rutgers, Maryland, WesternMich, etc but there are 1-2 games every year you need to prove why you are on the staff.  The offensive play calling failed miserabmy.  Not just getting Zeke more touches but refusing to take shots down the field. Someone should already have been joining another coaching staff my now.  I am afraid this team lays an egg in the desert

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Chic'sGhost's picture

Great analysis of MSU then you completely lost me on your belief that ND wins.  Because of the MSU game, Urban Fucking Meyer lays a beating on the Domers. 

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Classic low hanging fruit for fans.  Blame it all on the play calling and just ignore the fact that both lines got their asses kicked for most of the game.  This is just the fans' way of not having to admit that MSU was better that day.  I hate when other fan bases do it and am not going to accept it just because it is OSU fans doing it now.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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Furious George 27's picture

The problem in this statement is that MSU played pretty bad as well, realistically MSU played less crappy. They had awful play calling, but we expected it with cook being out and bollman as the oc. This was more of OSU losing because of mental mistakes and errors than MSU being better. That is the difference between the frustration in the loss and the belief that they were better. They weren't they won field position in a sloppy game played by both and sometimes that's all it takes 

Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

I watched that game three times.  We lost the LOS on both sides of the ball pretty badly.  If you haven't rewatched it specifically focusing on this, I suggest you do it.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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BATBUCK's picture

I agree with you more people need to rewatch the game. It shows what really happened.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

This is the classic take of championship guy whose whims are the reason the sport is getting ruined on the installment plan.  I dont know how to break this to you, but you'll be lucky if OSU wins a title once a decade.  I am really getting sick of this spoiled OSU fan.  Texas would kill for a season like this that ends in a New Year's day bowl and your spoiled ass whisks it away as a waste of your time.  Enjoy being miserable, I am going to enjoy the fact that my team is playing in a New Year's day bowl.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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BuckeyeLurker0509's picture

Who said anything about winning a title? I just expected us to be in the playoff.

Ill be watching the game as well, in between hangover induced naps. 

I dont give a flying f*ck about Texas. They aren't them. Shame on you for even comparing the two programs.

& trust me, my life is pretty great. No reason to be miserable. I was miserable enough for that day that Urban and Beck ruined the seniors chances at going out the way that they should have. 

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fear_the_nut70's picture

So you "expect" your team to be in the final four (just one season after they won it all?).  Don't see why that's unrealistic, huh?

Texas was meant as an example and a reminder of what can be our reality. I could have picked Nebraska, Miami, USC, or any number of other programs that have gone thorough lengthy struggles.  I don't give two shits about the Longhorns (actually enjoy their futility).

The misery comment was meant only as it relates to being an OSU fan, not to your life in general.

i pegged you as a spoiled Buckeye fan and you have done nothing to change my mind.  You should be enjoying the glory years rather than complaining that they are not better.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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BuckeyeLurker0509's picture

Did I stutter? Considering the talent/upperclassmen this team has, yes I expected them to finish undefeated in Big Ten play and make the playoff. AND SO DID THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.

This season is a failure considering they didn't make it back. That loss to Michigan State was worse than the 1998 loss to Saban and company.

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3rdtimesacharm's picture

Why wouldnt he expect them to be? You talk about being realistic so lets do that. Osu wins the 14' title and brings back what? 14 starters of which 4-6 have 1st round potential. They play a schedule that basically consist of 11 bye weeks and two games they absolutely have to show up for. A lot of people expected them to run the table and get to the playoffs after that its anything goes. I dont think he's being spoiled by having high hopes for this season. Any and every other fan base in college football would have.

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

The AP surely agreed with this to start the season - the only unanimous #1 ever.

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TNbuckeye91's picture

dude, for a joke to be funny, you have to wait a couple seconds minimum to let it settle in. kiffin's too scared to even joke about the buckeyes. must be PTSD.

I come from a long line; high, low, and in-between, the same as you. - Townes Van Zandt

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Byaaaahhh's picture

He doesn't wait for a touchdown to actually occur to signal one; why should he wait for a joke to get recognized before calling it? #JustLaneKiffinThings

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Elks' comb over's picture

Exactly what I was about to say. He needs to work on his comedic timing in the off season.

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brutus0717's picture

No doubt. It's as if he had that planned ahead of time. Talk about sour grapes. Maybe he should have planned a better offensive attack against tOSU last year...it would have gotten him more mileage than that lame ass joke!

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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Jcam3588's picture

He was right. OSU's play calling had been a joke most of the year. Still frustrating it took a performance that pitiful for change to be made.

"Because I couldn't go for three."

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jbirmmd's picture

As I'm witnessing these bowls, I get more and more angry about it.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Perhaps anger management?  It's entertainment dude.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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Buctor's picture

He should know, he showed them how last year.

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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BrutusB's picture

He's not wrong. Maybe it's the holiday spirit but I can't really muster up any outrage over this. 

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Spot on B.  I have a feeling that Henry gets 12 carries in the 1st quarter.  I'm not even kidding.

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buckeyedude's picture

I think that might be a bit on the LOW side, Norcal. LOL. 

"If you're not changing, you're falling behind."

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rkylet83's picture

Kiffin is 100% right.  We had the best back in the country and we didn't use him.  All season teams had limited him early and then he exploded in the second half...and we decided to go give his touches to QB draws...still pissed off a bit.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Zeke isnt the best back in the country.  He got stuffed pretty much every tine he ran it.  MSU stacked the box.  Those same fans crying now would have been saying "it's not working, try something else". O line played like shit, got whipped consistently.  I also find  the source amusing since many criticized him for abandoning the run too early in the SB last year.  It is amazing to me fans will ignore results on the field so they simply don't have to admit the other team was better that day.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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gobucks96's picture

When did he get the ball in the 2nd half?

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Cooper's picture

Still hurts. 

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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ZMBucks's picture

He is not wrong, but don't joke about another team when you essentially did the exact same thing against the team you're referencing in the Sugar Bowl. He out thought himself and stopped running Henry when he was averaging 7+ YPC.

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Bucks3036's picture

Not that i disagree with him but there have been many high profile games where Kiffin's play calling has been questionable at best. He's also a d-bag!

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Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

The joke is how Tim Beck is still employed by the state of Ohio.

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2morrow's picture

Honestly, after about game 4 or 5, I don't think you can blame Beck. UFM should have been on him long before TTUN. We are essentially 2-2 vs MSU in 4 years and both losses came as a result of shitty play calling. Hopefully we learn.

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DaBuckMD's picture

Always tough being on the outside looking in....

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Still a douche bag? Yes.

Is he wrong? No.

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BangkokBuckeye's picture

I am never happy to lose, but our current team did not have what it takes to win the CFP. I put that more on the offensive coaches than anything else. I am not saying anyone should lose their job but the passing attack regressed. Obviously Beck has some homework to do. But I also have a feeling Smith needs to do some homework as well. No solid wideout play, qbs get timid, passing game slows down, the other teams defense sells out on the run, etc, etc

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TNbuckeye91's picture

Our WR play, i think has been way below what it should've been since Urban got hired. I'm not saying fire anyone, or that they don't know how to coach. I just don't think anyone has reached their potential and i'm not sure why.

I come from a long line; high, low, and in-between, the same as you. - Townes Van Zandt

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Chic'sGhost's picture

That's exactly what I thought right before the 2014 BTC game last year.  Assuming you know how an UFM team is going to play in the playoffs from the regular season is a big mistake. 

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OH-IO's picture

At least he has a hot wife. Otherwise, he's an ass. 

OH-IO living BACK IN COLUMBUS after 32 years in the ATL. 

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Plus his little piece on the side, Saban's daughter.

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BrutusB's picture

No no no, you're thinking of Joey Freshwater. Completely different guy. 

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Haha, nice. I was trying to remember his alter ego's name.

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GoBucks10's picture

Meh. Beat the domers.

I hate the offseason.

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Bucky's's picture

My feelings also.

In Urban We Trust.

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EarleFan's picture

Lane Kiffin is a Blue Ribbon douche bag of college football.  However, "Just kiddin, that was a joke."  No, no you were right the first time douche bag.  Tim Beck is an idiot, don't try and cover for him.

"I didn't get a harrumph outta that guy!"

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Urbanbuck's picture

Kiffin's Korner words of wisdom

Wahoo! Wahoo! Rip, Zip, Bazoo! I Yell. I Yell. For O.S.U.

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zmoty9's picture

"Henry toted the ball a combined 90 times in their last two games versus Auburn and Florida"

And damn near died as a result of it, if you pay credence to certain dubbers...

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buckeyedude's picture

Don't like Kiffin but can't argue with his logic, here. He' right. 

"If you're not changing, you're falling behind."

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Kid Buckeye's picture

Too easy to stop a one headed offense. Run Henry  all night  and Sparty moves on.

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logamaniac's picture

If he doesn't get injured he's running more than 12 times and certainly more than the qb is called upon to run. 

Alabama also uses play action to open up the passing game since they run the ball so much.  

To be clear again Coker won't have 18 designed qb runs. 

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AlwayzABuckeye614's picture

Right as can be, nothing to see here.

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iamlucasking's picture

Ironic, considering Kiffin's refusal to call run plays vs. the Buckeyes last year basically did them in. Similar situation in which they were gaining chunks of yardage when running, but his stubbornness to try to the pass the ball with an average QB continued to stall their offense.

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Art Harrell's picture

 Lane (Ave) Kiffin, is a complete dick head. A sorry ass looooooooooser.

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The Buckeye Bullet's picture

Kiffin's dad, Monte, is / was one of the top defensive mind's the game of football has ever seen.

You can bash Lane all you want for his personality, but he has some serious knowledge when it comes to the game of football.

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Buckloving's picture

Just look at the number of people on here who couldn't even understand the point of the article. ..I had to log on and give you an up vote. I don't think the article was about weather he was an ass or weather we beat Alabama last year. I thought EVERYONE including Urban questioned our play calling

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2morrow's picture

How can you give UFM a pass on the MSU play calling? Ultimately the buck stops with UFM. He could have changed it or should have been able to adjust it - and didn't. It's not the first time. We just happened to win most of the other games because we have better players. UFM is 2-2 vs MSU - both losses the result of bad play calling.

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GR8TBUCKS's picture

That offensive ineptitude falls 100% on the pope, the worst game he has coached as a buckeye. The whole offensive staff was befuddled by Virginia Tech, so that doesn't fall entirely on The Urban that is legend. That offense was only duplicated by the defensive ineptitude that OSU displayed against the pope's national champ team. The two most inept game plans I have ever seen at OSU.

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Spirit's picture

BB, knowledge is not enough to make a great coach. He has been run out of EVERY town he's lived in.

Spirit

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Catch 5's picture

Not Tennessee. They were pretty pissed when he left. He had them playing way above their talent level and heading in the right direction.

Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban

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Olemissbuckeye's picture

See? Even Kiffykins get's it, and that is hilarious considering his misuse of Henry against us last year.

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Spirit's picture

This ///wipe had a chance to coach against us. How did that work out for him? There's a reason he can't keep a job. It's right in front of his teeth!

Spirit

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suit's picture

There's a weird part of me that hopes the OSU coaches saw this.

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

People seem to forget that Zeke was sick that week of the game, was in the hospital getting IV's at one point.  I don't think he was anywhere near 100%.  Kiffin is not a HC for a reason, he should concentrate on his team.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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Gobucks2204's picture

I agree. People are downplaying the fact that he had a 103 temperature and was in the hospital Monday through Wednesday and didn't get any practice reps that whole week. Even when we did run him, he didn't look the same. He was running right into his own line and strength of the defense other than a few runs. I think the staff was trying to protect him. Granted we could have at least passed it or played Samuel instead because Zeke was not 100 percent.

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nickel beer's picture

Yes, I agree, too--particularly about the staff protecting him.  And I think that Zeke's parents agreed as well, given the photos they released.  And this is a good point, too: "Maybe we should have sat him.  There's no excuse ... to have only 12 runs from the rb position."

Losing that game and its aftermath made damage control impossible.  Some fans will, but Meyer won't underestimate the importance of the next game, building off the previous game.  Lucky to have those two opponents in sequence to finish things off for the better.

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logamaniac's picture

That's true, and maybe we should have sat him.  But there's no excuse for this team- the way it's currently designed to have only 12 runs from the rb position. 

A quick reminder zeke had 12, Miller had 2 and jt had 18. 

Conversely MSU had 51 carries from 8 different backs

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dokocha0216's picture

Bring that azz here boi, don't make me get on you, last time I check you was still at the airport that they left your ass at

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Nikkibucksfan's picture

No sour grapes here...but i do wish we had another shot at them.They did what they had to do and we did not.that is something our coaches and team have to deal with. Let's close the door on the "what ifs"...#GoBucks

Nikki emmerson

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haydav49's picture

Who the hell (besides Paul Finebaum) gives a shit what Lane thinks or says? He is an asshole.

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Kid Buckeye's picture

When Henry was up for the award sure as hell they ran him the last 2 games so he had a better chance to win. Nothing to do with anything else.

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seouldier13's picture

Well didn't Alabama fail to do so against us last year when potentially they could've won with the downhill power running of Henry?

"We are made to persist. That's how we find out who we are." -Tobias Wolff

"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies." -Friedrich Nietzche

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seouldier13's picture

Kiffin is like the idiot commentator from Dodgeball.

"We are made to persist. That's how we find out who we are." -Tobias Wolff

"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies." -Friedrich Nietzche

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ChazBuckeye's picture

Although Kiffin is normally an idiot dbag that is almost on his own level of douchebagery, this time he's correct. You won't be hearing this Buckeye fan bitching about him. He's right, joking, or not. I'll never attended another OSU game because of that horrible play calling. Will I go so far to say that it was fixed, hell no! However will I spend no less than 195 to watch OSU vs Ttun next year after that eyesore of a game vs MSU, Hellfacking NO!

It is time!!!!!

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NOBLUE's picture

OSU should really schedule their tough games earlier in the season if Sparty beat us in the first half of the season OSU would be in the CFP .. HAHA

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2morrow's picture

I don't think they have any say-so on the B1G portion of the schedule, and even if we had lost earlier in the year, it wouldn't have mattered because we didn't win our division.

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

We're not, shall we say, "content" with the play calling from that damn MSU game either. Just kidding, no, we're not.

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Buckeye_Since_1997's picture

If Kiffin spent more time critiquing his own playcalling instead of Urban's, he would still be a head coach and not Saban's little bitch. 

Harbaugh is Michigan, Michigan is Harbaugh. They are together the ultimate con.

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

If someone is "Saban's little bitch", then they must be really short.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Well that settles it.  If Lane Violation says it was the play calling then we know it most certainly was not.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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JakeStevensIsSwag's picture

How can anyone be upset by this? He's right 

If i could change my username, i would

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Buckeye_Since_1997's picture

Yes, he's right. However, Kiffin has no room to talk with his resume (failed in college and the NFL as a head coach). He has not won anything yet at Bama, and he will look like an ass if he loses to Mich St. If Dantonio had said this, it's an entirely different story.

Harbaugh is Michigan, Michigan is Harbaugh. They are together the ultimate con.

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GR8TBUCKS's picture

So if KKK has no room to talk, with his resume, does that mean you have even less room to talk? Guessing that your sterling resume falls short of his, that is. 

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fear_the_nut70's picture

No he isnt (because MSU won with that exAct plan, they just did it better).  That is what you're not getting.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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infantrybuck's picture

First time poster here, been a reader for 5 years. The reason I'm finally posting is because I'm really tired of reading, and continuing to hear about the play calling vs MSU.  Did the play calling vs sparty suck? Yes. Is that the reason we lost? No.  It's like most of you didn't watch the same game I did, and saw our offensive and defensive lines get spanked by inferior talent.  Everyone complains about Zeke not getting the ball. But he was getting stuffed, and even when JT dropped back to pass, he had no time to throw at all. I think people use Tim Beck as a scapegoat and don't acknowledge how badly MSU beat us down in the trenches because it's just easier to blame the coaches instead of realizing they're players were just better and wanted it more that day.  Remember they did this WITHOUT CONNOR COOK!!! If he would have played and they not gifted us those two turnovers, we would have got ran out of our own stadium...Tresselball schooled us that day, let's just move on. This loss was not as bad as 74, 98, or 13 MSU, because this year, they were just obviously much better than us.  That's just my two cents anyway

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2morrow's picture

Have to disagree somewhat. The blocking and running and passing games have to be set-up by the play calling. When OSU running backs have 12 carries, the OLine will probably not develop any rhythm. Every big game over the past two years, Zeke usually did not have a huge first half. It was generally the second half where he started to get his yards as the OLine took over the game.

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infantrybuck's picture

12 carries, I got it. But remember, we ran a lot of Zone Reads that JT just decided to keep instead of giving it to Zeke.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Are you even aware that OSU only ran 17 total plays in the second half?  There were all kinds of problems in that game to include MSU running the ball on us as needed in the second half and keeping our O off the field.  I am not saying playing calling wasn't an issue ,but people who chalk it up to just that either don't know football or are in serious denial.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

I agreed with everything except the Connor Cook point. I have always thought motivation was a huge thing for this team and thought maybe their mindset after learning Cook was out was "we got this."  Also, the weather sucked, and with a bum shoulder, not sure he would have just run us off the field.  Cook played in the Purdue, Rutgers, TTUN, and Nebraska games after all.  This is just rank speculation my friend, nothing more.  Rest of your post is spot on IMHO.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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rkylet83's picture

This thread needs its own Kiffin's Krimson Korner.

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Neilwoodgables's picture

Fuck Lane Kiffin

I Hate Michigan.

 

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ScarletGray43157's picture

So Kiffin agrees with Zeke's postgame comments.  So did Urban.  

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

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teddyballgame's picture

To be fair it was a pretty huge line he had to wait in to get his opportunity.

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TLB's picture

He was just answering a question and giving an example of a team that went away from their bread and butter because the Sparty D line was kicking ass.  

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Crumb's picture

Even when he's right he's still a putz. 

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Turfgrad's picture

We should have run Zeke more times and I'm FUCKING "not kidding"! 

"I think Alabama would beat Ohio State if they played next weekend!" Clay Travis Fox Sports Post Championship Show 1.12.2015.  Needs no explanation.

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Well unfortunately, they have a double lesson to be learned from OSU over the calendar year of 2015 - Zeke not getting the ball enough against MSU and Henry not getting the ball enough against OSU.   

Class of 2010.

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Arizona_Buckeye's picture

I don't even have to watch the video to say that I completely agree with Kiffin!  The offensive game plan, or GROSS lack thereof against MSU, paired with the great defensive game plan by Coach D, cost us a ticket to the CFP.  We all suffered through that game with the exact same feeling - Jim Bollman had somehow made it back up to the box and was calling the plays from his two line playbook.  Why Urban didn't step in and make some major adjustments is still a head scratching event but it happened and there is nothing anybody can do about it.  I am a lifetime Buckeye fanatic and you will not find me on here talking about why OSU deserves to be in the CFP because to me, that is just textbook whining.  The only thing left to do this year is kick the shit out of the domers to 1) Serve notice to any recruit considering ND over OSU - you should seriously reconsider and 2) We have the testicular fortitude to rise above adversity and respond accordingly!

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Nikkibucksfan's picture

Why are you guys not reporting on Zeke and his car crash? This just happened yesterday and he is slated to still play...according to reports. 11 Warriors, where r u?

Nikki emmerson

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