Ohio State Hires Greg Schiano as Defensive Coordinator to Replace Chris Ash

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IGotAWoody's picture

This hire beats the hell out of Paul Rhoads!

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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iamcbs's picture

Or Chuck Heater!!

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GR8TBUCKS's picture

Urbs said in his Florida book that Heater was the best db coach he's ever had. So that is through what 2010? I don't know if he still feels that way and never tried to get Heater at OSU or he just wouldn't try to take him from a former coach of his.

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Marlon McClear's picture

Great hire in Schiano.

OSU nailed it, now I hope they nail it on offense too, (if they decide to).

No Mike "Baggage" Locksley.

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DibbleDabble's picture

EXCELLENT HIRE!!  AGREED!

EXACTLY what we need on D in 2016.   I can guarantee you a top 5 Defense with no entitled players in 2016. 

"Vision without execution is just hallucination."

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DibbleDabble's picture

(and on campus already... right before the biggest recruiting weekend of the year..   DOUBLE DOUBLE BOOM BOOM!!)

"Vision without execution is just hallucination."

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Buckeye@317's picture

How's this work for the Fiesta Bowl, will he be doing any coaching yet or just sticking to recruiting/ learning the roads at OSU?  

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logamaniac's picture

I don't think he can per NCAA rules.  Your staff can't be too big so unless ash leaves before the game I don't think schiano can perform coaching duties.  

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BucksFam4's picture

Wow!  Stay away from 11W for a few hours to finish up work...and major BOOM!  Obviously, I need to keep 11W running in the background & sneak peak for news...

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CGroverL's picture

With all of the players the Bucks are losing on defense, a top 5 defense will be a tall order. However, Fickell has been a part of many top 5 defenses and I don't doubt our players that will be replacements in the voids left by our future NFL stars. I think the hire of Schiano was as good as possible as he is a secondary specialist and should fit perfectly with the Buckeye "defensive concept" now that Chris Ash (whose stock is at an all time high, but my opinion is this will follow with a crash for him) has left some big shoes to fill. Realistically, the hire of Greg Schiano should actually make the coaching staff even better... Schiano wears much bigger shoes than Chris Ash.

A bit off of the subject... I think that the loss of players to the NFL on defense along with the hiring of Schiano will make our MLB, Raekwon McMillan, get some awards that our 2015 Buckeyes were snubbed on, anyway. McMillan's steady improvements have me thinking he should change his number from 5 to 36 for next season even though that is a sin to some.

"I hope they're last in everything". One of Meyer's comments when speaking of TTUN after being hired at Ohio State.

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Breakawayspeed's picture

Wow! Urban hired a guy whose company made derailleurs  for 10 speeds?

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toad1204's picture

Let me guess, you really like Breaking Away?

The offseason is the longest season.

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Breakawayspeed's picture

Yea, One of my favorites.  But,too much Christmas sugar going round the office this afternoon is my real excuse.

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3rdtimesacharm's picture

Im cautiously optimistic about this. Meyer has hired two duds in whithers and beck and two studs in ash and herman. This is the tie breaker hire. Being a former HC for so long itll be interesting how the transition goes for him taking a lesser job. Hopefully it goes great and he bring in some of that new jersey talent. Cough... rashaun gary... cough

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wyatt's picture

New Jersey is definitely his old neighborhood.  Looks like an excellent choice.

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2morrow's picture

Herman was not a stud until we got beat by VT - then - yes.

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3rdtimesacharm's picture

Huh??? Record for yards and points in 2013 probably means hes a stud. In 2012 the offense wasnt to shabby either. They were def scoring more than the 11' offense was

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Buckeye419er's picture

Right before one of the biggest recruiting weekends for OSU. Well played gentlemen...well played. *tips hat*

There can be only one

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TigerSweat's picture

I think it was critical that Meyer erased the idea that Fickell would be running the defense. At this point, the only reason that Fick remains on staff is due to his legacy status and Urban's sense of loyalty. I'm not a #FireFickell kind of guy as long as there's a competent coach to carry his weight for him... Who am I to hate on a former Buckeye who has devoted his professional life to the program and is being financially rewarded in the process, even though Meyer has 0 confidence in him as a coach. Well played Fick! 

Great hire for the defense!

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andretolstoy's picture

I think it's critical for everyone to know that most guys that believe what you just wrote spend a lot of their personal time posting mirror selfies...

What utter nonsense.

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TigerSweat's picture

What in the fu$k does mirror selfies have to do with any of this. Just for your personal entertainment, I've never taken a "selfie".... Not even for my 11W avatar!

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Poison nuts's picture

Andretolstoy for the win!

Get busy living.

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IGotAWoody's picture

Who am I to hate on a former Buckeye who has devoted his professional life to the program

Yes, good question - who the hell are you?!!

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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TigerSweat's picture

Yes, good question - who the hell are you?!!

What's the criteria I need to meet in order to state my personal opinion of a coach who's been on staff for 15 years? Guess i'm just a guy who likes to look at shit realistically sometimes... Who in the hell are you?

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IGotAWoody's picture

I'm just one of many who DV'd yer shitty take, that's who.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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Brutus's picture

I feel honored to be the guy that DV'd this into permanent grayness.

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11UrbzAndSpices's picture

Ugh, I missed throwing in a DV before it was locked :-\

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Buckeyedad's picture

I  was logging in to dv it. You beat me to it 

MSD

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stantmann's picture

I see what you are trying to say, but it was the "Well played Fick" comment that got you the downvotes. There may be something bigger at play here other than you thinking it is because of no confidence.

"When you're part of a team, you stand up for your teammates. Your loyalty is to them. You protect them through good and bad, because they'd do the same for you." Yogi Berra

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Moo Strength's picture

I think he is a hell of a recruiter, I just think his biggest problem is he's too bland in his style of coaching, he's like the younger protege of Tressel Ball.

If I must choose between peace and righteousness, I choose righteousness! -Theodore Roosevelt.

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Canukbuck's picture

Guess again - Fickell was around when the Silver Bullets were winning NC's (2002 - make no mistake, it was the defense, not the offense that won the games during the entire season) and the defense (especially the secondary) that went south during Whithers tenure.  Fickell has no problem with keeping that front seven active.  Ash came in to settle down the secondary with a much simpler scheme, that require corners that could function on an island.

While Fickell is an excellent assistant coach (won that top honor not too long ago) and recruiter, look at the players he's developed as Linebackers !!  Convinced Meyer to recruit a skinny little safety and turned him into an outstanding outside backer by the name of Lee.  His other successes in developing linebackers has turned OSU into LB University.

Whithers shows up and the defense stepped backwards, but Fickell's front 7 still performed.  Whithers leaves, Fickell stays and the defense improves (with a solid job by Ash to reform the DB's).  Judging Fickell during his one season as HC has always been ridiculous, since he was handed a hand pump to bale out the Titanic.  Meyer was under NO obligation to keep him, but he did and he's still there (no one is complaining about our front 7, am I right ??), so I'm very comfortable with the jobs Fick's been doing at OSU .......

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TigerSweat's picture

I have never judged Fick on his one season as HC, as he was CLEARLY in over his head. My comment was geared more toward the fact that he has to have a "co-coordinator" in order to further the illusion that he's a good DC... That's my assessment of a man who makes more in one year than I will in 12 - So is it weird that I don't feel guilty for having a public opinion on him? As far as the LB's he gets credit for developing, the vast majority of them were transcendent talents who would have progressed no matter who the LB coach happened to be. Like I said, i'm not a #FireFickell guy and never have been. Yet I get DV's like i'm some kind of asshole who has some kind of weird personal vendetta against Luke (lmao). Looks like some of you guys feel like Fick could DC the defense into a perennial top tier unit without a stronger co-dc "helping out"... That may have been the first "grayed-out" comment that i've ever made here, but I stand by it 100%. 

Just remember this... I never say #FireFickell, only #Hire someone who can mask his weaknesses. Oh, and try not to choke on each others popular idealism. 

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TigerSweat's picture

It may help when your front 7 consists of 85% NFL draft picks... I don't know that for a fact, just taking a shot in the dark.

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TigerSweat's picture

Look guys - I wasn't intending to ruffle feathers with my comments. I thought my opinion may be a common one (was clearly mistaken). Iff I came off like an asshole, I truly apologize. I was merely voicing my thoughts on the matter at hand... 

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Canukbuck's picture

No need for apologies, as this site relies on personal opinions to invite debate, so it's all good.  While every coach has strengths and weaknesses (I think Urban's mis-guided loyalty to Cardale hurt the offense this season, when JT was the obvious starter), Fickell brings far too many positives to ever be considered as someone who needs to be babysat.

Your point regarding the front 7 being 85% NFL-caliber talent is well made, but just as important is the person who helped mold them into top NFL talent.  I won't go into the number of linebackers that have developed under Fickell's hand, but the one example that still stands out to me is his ability to recognize the potential in a player like Darren Lee, convince Urban to extend an offer to him and then build him into one of those players who'll be playing on Sunday, just like Shazier (another talent developed by Luke).  The same could be said of the development of Sam Hubbard and Fickell's ability to find the perfect home for this kid's special talents (props to Larry Johnson for honing those DE skills).

I still maintain the common denominator in the defensive lapse during Urban's coaching tenure was Whithers.  Fickell is not a conservative coach (his blitz packages are usually pretty active during games).  Fickell made the call on the pick 6 by our DE in the Bama game, so he knows how to scheme a team when he watches film. 

Luke is a great recruiter, a bona-fide talent evaluator, a player developer and has a very solid defensive mind.  He's far more than a former player who bleeds Scarlet & Grey and I'm very glad that he's working on the defensive side of the ball for OSU .... JMHO

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Poison nuts's picture

Well said Canuk!

Get busy living.

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andretolstoy's picture

Canuckbuck. Your comment made me seek out Al Pacino and watch his court scene in Scent of Woman. Oorah! 

If you die before you die, then you won't die when you die. 

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BeijingBucks's picture

Dude. breathe. it happened. it's over... 

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MAVBuck's picture

MAJOR BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

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Marshall Trucker's picture

WOW! Now that's the kinda news that I love to see when I get on! Welcome aboard Coach!

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Crumb's picture

I ain't mad at it. 

The irony is not lost on me either, we lose a guy to Rutgers so we go get the best Rutgers ever had until now. 

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aznchipmunk's picture

Certainly.  The script has been flipped... for the better

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Buckeyepaco's picture

The Urban effect will pay many dividends.
 

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Earle's picture

We lose a guy to Rutgers so we go get the best Rutgers ever had

There is something very "Friends" about this.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

I don't think that is what irony is at all.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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DefendYoungstown's picture

What you said and the fact that Schaino can probably recruit the shit out of the NE corridor.  Did Urban do this a FU to Ash for stealing away the other assistant he took?

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

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THE's picture
Really solid DC hire!  Schiano has great inroads in recruiting, NFL head coaching experience and proven success at the college level. I like it a lot. 

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11UrbzAndSpices's picture

That's what I'm thinking, Schiano will be a 2 year guy because he will be a HC somewhere. He was THE MAN at Rutgers before he went to the NFL, love his attitude. A legitamately good college HC as our DC? I'll take it!

If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special.

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AZBUCK-I's picture

Bo Schembechler: Student of Woody;
Gary Moeller: Player for Woody;
Lloyd Carr & Rich Rodriguez: Owned by Tressel;
Brady Hoke: Owned by donuts;
Jim Harbaugh: Owned by Urban to the tune of 42-13.

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D.J. Byrnes's picture

Not really... on top of what other commenters... Schiano and Meyer are boys.

Los Angeleno by birth; Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

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aznchipmunk's picture

"boys gonna be boys"

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NeilAve's picture

Left field for a rookie Eleven Warrior like myself

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Whoa Nellie's picture

Deez boyz gon kick some ass!

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mrspray's picture

Some pro experience can't be bad for recruiting either...

In case you're curious, it's Mr. Spray

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WildBear Buckeye's picture

I'm not sure about THAT kind of pro experience ... on the other hand, I'm impressed by his willingness to eat humble pie.
 

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TigerSweat's picture

In reality, coaching a TB team to 11-21 over a 2 season span is probably indicative of a good coach. A poor coach would struggle to win 2 over the same span. 

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southbuc's picture

How did Saban do in Miami?

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BucksFam4's picture

I heard he was not well liked in the TB locker room in the end - a little too controlling.  But that is what life is all about - hopefully you learn from your mistakes & change your approach.  He sure pulled Rutgers up from the basement so we know he is successful at the college level.  Loved his honorary signing of Eric Legrand at TB.

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Turban Meyer's picture

I don't think the's a pro guy at all, and I think he had a college mindset when in Tampa, which won't work long-term with professionals.

This is a fantastic 'landing' spot for him. 

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CTBuckeye's picture

Wow, that should definitely help keep a foot-hold in NJ / mid-Atlantic recruiting...

"Because we couldn't go for three"

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huffdaddy's picture

Poor Ash. 

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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Flakin's picture

Couldn't agree more. Now, go get Gary! 

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Crumb's picture

Also, this makes me wonder if some places are taking a look at hiring Luke Fickell too. Or if UFM thinks Luke might not be around more than one more season. 

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

Crumb - I feel as if Schiano would ONLY come to Ohio State if he was the man at DC, and no co-coordinator position would be enough to bring him on. Urban may of had to choose, either go with Fickell, or follow my heart and hire Schiano. 

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IGotAWoody's picture

Meyer might get his usual 2 yr commitment, but I wouldn't expect Schiano to be here long. He's made it clear he wants to be a head coach again.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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cal3713's picture

+1.  This sounds like the most likely outcome to me.

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okiebuck's picture

That might be true but with all the open spots across the country, there's been no better year then this one in a while for someone looking for a head coaching job.

The only hard day was yesterday

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andretolstoy's picture

Whatever the case, if I were in Luke's shoes I would not mind working under these guys and gleaning from their know-how. He has had the opportunity to work under Tress, Meyer, Heacock, Johnson and now if he stays, Schiano. It's only going to make him a better HC when he does jump.

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CantonBuckeyes12's picture

I would find it very hard to believe Luke is going anywhere! He's done a nice job with the Linebackers, and he's a Buckeye lifer! Not many love Ohio State like Luke does! 

We will fight to the end for OH-IO!

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andretolstoy's picture

I wouldn't be as bold to claim this. He may not stray far from Ohio when he does, but it makes no sense for him stick around much longer. He will most likely go to a MAC or something like that; make some waves and then, hopefully, come back to be DC for Herman.

If you die before you die, then you won't die when you die. 

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TigerSweat's picture

That's a hell of a fairy-tale. lol

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andretolstoy's picture

Really? Do you believe Pelini is at YSU forever? There is pretty good chance that Pelini's demise at Nebraska had likely a lot to do with choice of staff rather than his own coaching abilities. As much as I hate joining the Anti-Beck rant since he seems like a really decent man.

Grant it, Pelini is a bit on the over-zealous side. I think he's a good HC and can coach at the same level as once before.

I just don't see Pelini being a lifer at YSU and I also don't see Tressel batting an eye in getting Fickell the HC job after Pelini leaves.

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DefendYoungstown's picture

Really? Do you believe Pelini is at YSU forever? 

With his foul mouthed tirades and animated side line show, what major program is going to take a chance on him?

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

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andretolstoy's picture

Notre Dame?

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TigerSweat's picture

No, you took my comment wrong. I was referring to the Herman/Fickell idea as far fetched, that's all.

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TheRealRico's picture

Is he gonna be full defensive cordinator or just co dc like ash was

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buckeye phi's picture

We didn't demote Fickell when we brought in Ash.  Why would we do it now?  Besides, Fick has shown he's more than able to get his linebackers adjusted to a new defensive scheme if necessary. 

Plus, even when our passing defense sucked royally in 2013 - our rushing defense (Fick's primary responsibility) wasn't bad.  He's a fine coach who hasn't let his ego get in the way and doesn't mind running another coordinator's scheme

Another co-coordinator situation should work alright as long as we're running Schiano's system - and it's as much like Ash's as it sounds it'll be -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

So since #hiresomeone is no longer a good thing as in #hirebeck I guess this is the reverse of that?  :P

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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CLEbuck96's picture

Guys, were hiring him as qb coach, not DC

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Northbrook's picture

Yeah? Really? Where did you see that? I missed it.

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Northbrook's picture

Sometimes attempted jokes aren't funny.

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buckzilla1's picture

That right there is flippin funny......

You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. Urban Frank Meyer

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JW BUCKEYE's picture

Now THAT'S a splash!!

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Urbz4President's picture

This deserves a grey box. #booom

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aznchipmunk's picture

do you mean gray?

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toad1204's picture

He could be English...  I think they write it that way.

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huffdaddy's picture

Ever since Ash decommitted I've been waiting for the next boom...

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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Raider85's picture

Wow this is a good hire for OSU the man has a good football mind and he will be respected I look for recruiting to even get better. Hoping he will give OSU at least 2 years and good things will happen.

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aznchipmunk's picture

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EMoThaGr8's picture

The Big Payback...

The Buckeye behind enemy lines...

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Gratefulbuck's picture

So much for a no name hire...

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PowellBuckeye's picture

Wow! pretty shocked!  

"You win with people" - Woody Hayes

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Buckeye61's picture

I think his prior territory for recruiting purposes will be a great addition.

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OSUStu's picture

Pretty much a damn fine hire.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

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FasterBuckeyes90's picture

My first thought was, oh shit! That's a solid hire. A guy with nfl experience is a huge draw for recruits

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Barnsey69's picture

Completely fantastic! 

We're not worthy! *bows to the Urban*

Somebody not on a retricted work computer may post the obligatory Wayne's World GIF.

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IGotAWoody's picture

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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ds547803's picture

i like it. recruits will love to see a guy with NFL head coaching experience.

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toad1204's picture

Pretty happy with this one.  Good resume, HC experience, NFL experience, knows the recruiting grounds, and should be able to pick up where Ash left off.

The offseason is the longest season.

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DaiTheFlu's picture

No shit. Aside from the win over TTUN, it's been a real shitty last 30 days.

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

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raki's picture

Great News now since we are shopping around, lets get a Great Offensive coordinator. Can We let go timbeck after one year?

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DaiTheFlu's picture

I'm not a fan, but I don't see us doing that. Urban asks for 2 years and I doubt he'd go back on that if there weren't extenuating circumstances.

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

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The Buckeye Bullet's picture

The extenuating circumstances are that the Offense is littered with top NFL Draft picks and their output has been mediocre at best, and 104 of 127 in the Passing game at worst.

Time to hire some OC talent commensurate with OSU being a top NCAA program.

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2morrow's picture

I agree - after watching this season unfold, the less I am inclined to totally blame Beck. I really don't know if he is any good, but lets not forget  - for two years, you had people calling for Hermanns head. His play calling was also not very good until we got beat by VT. Almost like we were playing not to lose and then MSU in the 2013 B1G championship game, Clemson in the bowl game and then VT. After that, the play calling became really good. We called an aggressive game. I won't feel like we are really back until I see more life on the passing side. I think UFM is more responsible for the offensive malaise this year than anyone. I could blame Beck for 3 or 4 games, but after that, it's on UFM. How many times did we hear we have to get BM the ball more, and Thomas, and Zeke, and Marshal, and Samuel, etc... We played the year almost like we were trying to reward people for last year rather than coming up with a good game plan and let the touches fall where they may. I know we only lost one game by 3 points to a team in the final 4, but we were most certainly one of the top teams and blew an opportunity that doesn't come around often. I hope we continue to take out our frustrations on ND and think Schiano will be great for us. Go Bucks

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TheRealRico's picture

The last two times we lost to msu it's been because the play caller thought our qb would run better than our workhorse nfl running back

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osuisnumber1's picture

Excellent!!!!      So who is the new Offensive Coordinator/ QB's coach going to be?

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osudray's picture

TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep Calm and Buckeye On

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DaiTheFlu's picture

Jump passes for everyone! YOU get a jump pass, YOU get a jump pass...

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

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Knarcisi's picture

Impact hire.  Great to have the brand of Ohio State to get a guy liek this to come be an assistant coach.

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AZBUCK-I's picture

Bo Schembechler: Student of Woody;
Gary Moeller: Player for Woody;
Lloyd Carr & Rich Rodriguez: Owned by Tressel;
Brady Hoke: Owned by donuts;
Jim Harbaugh: Owned by Urban to the tune of 42-13.

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Buckeyevstheworld's picture

When you discover your first woody.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Get well soon Mrs.Naut 6-0 > 3-6.

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aznchipmunk's picture

"I remember my first..."

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IGotAWoody's picture

You rang?!

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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seouldier13's picture

Is that Dr. Who? What movie is this?

"We are made to persist. That's how we find out who we are." -Tobias Wolff

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BuckeyeinSF's picture

It is from Doctor Who, but I'm trying to figure out what episode it's from. There's only been a few episodes where Ten wore a tux.

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seouldier13's picture

Thanks. He's my favorite Dr. Who. Also loved Broadchurch.

"We are made to persist. That's how we find out who we are." -Tobias Wolff

"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies." -Friedrich Nietzche

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UrbanBuckeye's picture

Yeah, this will work. Do like.

Harbaugh puts ketchup on his steak.

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bakerjon's picture

YES YES YES!

Boy, I got vision and the rest of the world wears bifocals! - Butch Cassidy

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AZBUCK-I's picture

Bo Schembechler: Student of Woody;
Gary Moeller: Player for Woody;
Lloyd Carr & Rich Rodriguez: Owned by Tressel;
Brady Hoke: Owned by donuts;
Jim Harbaugh: Owned by Urban to the tune of 42-13.

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bbb's picture

I know almost nothing about Schiano. Is this a good hire?

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D.J. Byrnes's picture

I just think it's different leagues. Elite college coaching doesn't translate to the NFL, where players are grown men are earning a wage, etc. 

I would assume Schiano learned from his experiences and is a new man. We'll see.

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Andy Vance's picture

 Just think it's different leagues. Elite college coaching doesn't translate to the NFL, where players are grown men are earning a wage, etc. 

Agreed. Consider how many super-successful NCAA coaches don't cut the mustard at the next level... Saban, Chip Kelly, up until his visit to Seattle you could include Slippery Pete Carroll in that cohort, I suppose. What works well with college student-atholetes doesn't necessarily work with entitled millionaires.

teddyballgame's picture

"atholetes"  , that is brilliant sir

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Someone else refers to him as Slippery Pete (been calling him that for years).  Never heard anyone else do it.  + 1.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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aznchipmunk's picture

The only person who was elite in College and NFL is.... Hairball

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Calgarybuck's picture

And the players hated his guts! 

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aznchipmunk's picture

True.  I also forgot about Pete.

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buckeye92's picture

Didn't his players dislike him at San Fran? I thought the talk was there when they were losing?

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kmp10's picture

Elite college coaching doesn't translate to the NFL

What? Coaches treating 30 year old men like 19 year old kids doesn't translate to the NFL, but "elite coaching" most certainly translates to the National Football League. Schiano is an elite coach who is probably better suited to working with kids than he is married players who have families and make more money that he does. 

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bsanders2519's picture

Its not the 30 year old men that are the problem. Its like the Senator once said, its a lot easier to coach a 19 year old who has nothing than a 20 year old millionaire that thinks he has everything figured out.

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osu07asu10's picture

I'm willing to give him a fair shake but excuse me for not being "fully erect" at his hire.

Like you said and I said in my original comment time will tell how it works out.

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joel121270's picture

There's always that guy....good God

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osu07asu10's picture

Yeah because my comments clearly show I'm that guy.

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joel121270's picture

Welp, you are....I mean the guy is barely hired and here you are being "that guy" with negative insinuations. Can't we just enjoy the hire of what appears to be a very good one and then cast judgement next season? I mean he seems to have a decent and proven track record.

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ibuck's picture

I would assume Schiano learned from his experiences and is a new man.

If Schiano did have a problem (say, being autocratic), being out of the game for 2 years has a way of softening one's attitude.

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dkgaffney's picture

Just shows he is more suited to the college level plus Meyer still calls the shots

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bsanders2519's picture

Players have told their agents about coaches roaming through the locker room (typically the players’ sanctuary away from coaches) and staff videotaping players on the sidelines during losses to single out players laughing or horsing around.

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TheRealRico's picture

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he the guy who on a kneel at the end of a game when he was at Tampa told his guys to go for the knees

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RBurgundy4's picture

Sort of. You're half right, I guess. Yes, he instructed his defensive players to go after the ball at the snap of a kneel down at the end of a game. Nothing about knees or going after players. Tom Coughlin took exception and scolded him after the game by saying that's not how things are done in th NFL and that kind of coaching is going to get someone hurt, etc. It was a questionable approach on Schiano's part at the time.

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DefendYoungstown's picture

We should ask Ray Rice what he thinks about Greg...

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

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bsanders2519's picture

Welcome aboard coach! I approve this message!!

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Varsity O's picture

BOOYA!

"No wait, it's gotta be your bull."

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Calgarybuck's picture

CHOMPING FREAKING WOOD BABY! 

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kmp10's picture

Schiano isn't coming in to be anyone's "co-coordiantor", imo. This is a former NFL and college head coach. He's a big name, albeit one with some baggage. Impressive hire. 

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CantonBuckeyes12's picture

Co-Coordinator is only a title! Money talks. And if he calls all the plays who really cares? Fickell could be the Coordinator only in title, when he's really just the LB Coach! 

We will fight to the end for OH-IO!

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TigerSweat's picture

Most likely scenario. No way would GS agree to a 2 year commitment unless he was assured to have the majority of control over the DC position... Just my opinion, but it makes sense I think.

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DC_buckeye's picture

I mentioned this in the forum thread, isn't it odd that Ohio State will have two associate head coaches (with Johnson).   Also are there any restrictions placed on associate head coach like they would for a coach in waiting?

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MikeEagleBuckeye's picture

I feel like that title really doesn't mean much except it sounds more impressive and warrants paying them more money.

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krodawg's picture

I agree. I think it's used to slot pay scale.

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DC_buckeye's picture

If it is to slot the pay one the staff how is it that Johnson was the 5th highest paid on the 2015 staff?  In reading up on it I am lead to believe that this title is used in order to block him from making a lateral move elsewhere.  Meaning he can only leave for a HC job.  

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2015/12/64856/report-o...

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Andy Vance's picture

I feel like that title really doesn't mean much except it sounds more impressive and warrants paying them more money.

This is correct. If you can't afford to pay someone more, you give them an impressive title. If you can afford to pay someone more, but it would look bad to pay them more for the same job someone else is doing, you give them an impressive title to justify the money. In this case, we're clearly talking about the latter.

GoBucksBazley's picture

That's not even a splash, that is a freaking cannon ball! Love it!

Because I couldn't go for three

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zmoty9's picture

So there are now two associate head coaches? Wonder what that's about.

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teddyballgame's picture

I think of it as this, but with coaches

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The Buckeye Bullet's picture

Brax at 4.32 ?!?!

WTF, imagine getting that guy the ball in space.

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BZIMMER's picture

BOOM!  Now who is going to be the replacement OC?

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aznchipmunk's picture

ISWYDT.

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The Buckeye Bullet's picture

No way!

Did Urban just replace Beck with 'The Walrus', as well ?!

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osu07asu10's picture

So I'm the only one who isn't so sure about this? I mean, good hire by name, we will see how it all shakes down. Players hated playing for him in the NFL.

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RBurgundy4's picture

It's fresh news so it's early, but early returns say yes, it appears you're in the minority. 

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osu07asu10's picture

it appears you're in the i am the minority. 

Yeah, I see that. Don't worry Ron, when we run the full piece on the hire I have an awesome stock photo of Schiano with Beck, that will surely ruin it for you!

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RBurgundy4's picture

ISWYDT. Ha! Taken in good spirit!

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osu07asu10's picture

Haha meant in good spirit. +1

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RBurgundy4's picture

0710, did you recently change your tagline? I didn't notice earlier. If so, that's funny as hell and I laughed for a good 5 minutes. And then I did likewise in solidarity. Well done, sir.

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zmoty9's picture

I'm skeptical of this hire. Urban seemed to be looking for young, up and coming innovators to fill his staff when he showed up (e.g. Herman, Smith). Schiano, although he's a respected name, doesn't seem to fit that. Plus his name comes up as a possibility in every coaching search. I see him out the door fast.

Also, kudos to you for correcting the people asking about the new OC. Beck is still in Columbus and they need to deal with it.

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

Everett Withers, and Chris Ash were both out the door fast (2 years each), no need to worry about Schiano, he will be gone in a year or two. 

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osu07asu10's picture

Also, kudos to you for correcting the people asking about the new OC.

Not sure how much gas I have left in the tank but I'll give it the good fight. Nobody see what Bosa said? The players thought the fans became assholes during the win streak. Kicking your OC (after you used to kick the old OC in the beginning) after 1 loss is a terrible, terrible look.

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

Hear hear.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

From what I remember, his strict, hard line style wasn't well received by the millionaires in the NFL. It's different in college, IMO. That can work because those kids haven't made it yet.

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stanley_1914's picture

I think when you're replacing a guy like Chris Ash, you can hope for a lateral move at best. This reminds me a lot like Larry Johnson replacing Vrabel or Tony Alford replacing Stan Drayton. One talented coach leaves, another similar-yet-different talented coach takes his place

"That’s the way you respect a rivalry. Then you outwork them and then you kick that ass like it’s never been kicked before." - Urban Meyer

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bucks15's picture

Or when Tim Beck replaced Tom Herman.  

Seriously though this a great hire, love the aggressiveness he brings to his defense.  Curious to know what kind of scheme he'll be running in his 4-3 defense.  

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Jumar's picture

It is an interesting hire for sure. It could go really well, or Schiano could have difficulties not being the HC. It will probably somewhere in the middle as he has proven he can coach at the college level and recruit. There is a big difference between coaching college players and NFL players.

If you continue to think what you always thought, you will continue to get what you always got. #AlumforStaff

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DibbleDabble's picture

He is a head coach Jumar... Head coach of the Defense.

EXCELLENT HIRE. 

"Vision without execution is just hallucination."

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Jumar's picture

He is a head coach Jumar... Head coach of the Defense.

Honest question - does Luke Fickell get demoted and have the co-DC taken away?

If you continue to think what you always thought, you will continue to get what you always got. #AlumforStaff

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DibbleDabble's picture

I think Luke is Luke... a solid, improving LB / DL coach and recruiter that kids love to play for.

I think I state the obvious when I say he will have a voice, but this is Greg's baby now.

"Vision without execution is just hallucination."

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bucknutz18's picture

NFL is nothing like College Football when it comes to motivating players.  He is a tough love guy.  Many NFL players don't respond well to this.  He is the perfect college coach.  He turned Rutgers into a perenial 9-win team for fucks sake.  Rutgers won 9 games something like 3 times in over 100 years.  Schiano averaged 9 wins during 2006-2009.

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Cooper's picture

I'm skeptical as well, 07/10. I'm not doubting his ability to coordinate OSU's defense, but it'll be interesting to see how he adapts to the Bucks' culture. I guess I'm more skeptical about his interpersonal relationships with players.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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bucknutz18's picture

Care to elaborate a bit more?  I'm no Schiano homer by any means, but they guy made Rutgers into a winner and is responsibe for them joining the B1G.  I never heard of any issues with him during his RU tenure. "Chop the Wood" and all that.  No denying his problems in the NFL, but my comment above illustrates its apples to oranges.  Who would you rather have as a Co-DC?

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Cooper's picture

Who would you rather have as a Co-DC?

I don't know and don't pretend to know who else they would have hired.

No denying his problems in the NFL, but my comment above illustrates its apples to oranges.

Interpersonal relationships with players, no matter the level of football, is not an apples to oranges comparison. I'm always skeptical of coaches who have had an "autocratic" label attached to them, as I believe coaches should be fluid with their philosophies. The comforting part of this hire is that he will adhere to Urban's culture, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend I don't have questions and skepticisms.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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bucknutz18's picture

Valid.  Like you said it's not as if Greg is coming in to run this program or make wholesale cultural and philosophical changes within the program.  He is here because his defensive tendencies match nicely with Luke and he is an ace recruiter in Jersey and South Florida, two of our biggest hot beds outside Ohio.  

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KillrNut's picture

Some guys are better college coaches...

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BrowardBuck's picture

From what I remember, his players at Rutgers didn't seem to mind playing for him. I think he had issues with transitioning his coaching style into the pros and it didn't work well with the players. Different players that are getting paid, which requires a different coaching approach.

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steve-OH's picture

I like it! Splash hire by Urban.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

I am fully erect. What a hire

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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YinzerBuck's picture

"They're pleats"......

(walking away)...."Don't act like you're not impressed"......

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aznchipmunk's picture

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JTL_OH's picture

Reloaded. Love this hire. This will be huge for our East Coast recruiting too!

HUGE!!!!

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dkgaffney's picture

Great Hire.  Might this put Rashan Gary back on the radar?

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BucksLover0214's picture

No.  But other 2017 defensive recruits wanted a splash hire.  This guy has coached defensive backs in the NFL, been  a head coach in college, and the pros.  It's a good hire.

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IGotAWoody's picture

I wouldn't be so sure. You can bet this at least gets his attention. He's considering TTUN, who just lost their stud DC. We just replaced our stud with possibly an even studlier stud.

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aboynamedtracy's picture

I don't know either, but Birm will get us up to speed soon.

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MW2014's picture

Good choice. Now less worried about the D next year. 

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teddyballgame's picture

Well, he's not going to be out there playing.  How much he can get into their head and translated to the field remains to be seen.  I would still expect growing pains with all the fresh meat out there.  We needed a strong hire like this though.

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TigerSweat's picture

That's all true, but I seem to remember Ash making an immediate impact on the defense. I think it's a really solid hire - Interested to see what transpires on the recruiting trail and the playing field.

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Meek's picture

Bucs to Bucks.

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buckeyehub's picture

Rashan Gary? Kareem Walker? Interesting turn of events....

“Anyone can run the option. I can run the option.” - Urban Meyer Let's beat the snot out of *ichigan.

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osu07asu10's picture

Rashan Gary?

Maybe, but unlikely.

Kareem Walker?

No.

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AppalachianStateGradIIIBuckeye4Life's picture

Good hire, but I hope he can make an impact in a short amount of time.  He will be a head coach swiftly after next season.  

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osu07asu10's picture

He will be a head coach swiftly after next season.  

I'm not so sure about that. Why didn't he get any calls to fill some of the open positions in CFB the last 2 seasons? I wouldn't call him damaged goods after the TB disaster, but the bumper isn't sitting straight on his set of wheels right now.

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buckeyehub's picture

Miami interviewed him and gave him a good long look about a week ago

“Anyone can run the option. I can run the option.” - Urban Meyer Let's beat the snot out of *ichigan.

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osu07asu10's picture

So one program? Let's not kid ourselves, once Richt was available that was the beginning and end of that coaching search for the U.

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AppalachianStateGradIIIBuckeye4Life's picture

well..how do you know he didn't get calls and wants the greenest pasture he can get potentially?

My basis for that thought comes directly from Chris Ash.  He literally said he came to Ohio State to better his overall value as a coach due to Urban's tree.  Schiano can take a year to (literally and figuratively) get back in the game, add the value of coaching under Meyer, and go from there.  I find it hard to believe a former HC of a reasonably successful collegiate program, let alone a HC of an NFL team (regardless of performance), is looking to be a defensive coordinator for a long time.

Look, I hope I'm wrong.  I think he's a good coach, I think he has touched the NFL enough to at least suggest to recruits that he knows what he's doing, and the NJ area is really making a push nationally for high school football talent.  I'll admit I'm wrong when that day comes, but I just highly doubt it at this point.  

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grangel's picture

R.I.P. AfroDuck and Harambe

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Abuckeye15's picture

36-24-36? Ha ha, only if she's 5'3"

I’m not sure what time it is, but Xichigan still sucks

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gobucks5413's picture

WOW! Big boom. Urban is the man

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stanley_1914's picture

I'm adequately pleased with this hire.

Shiano is likely one of those guys that coaches college better than NFL, so I think personnel-wise, he will be successful.

From a pure coaching vantage point, I think he's at least a lateral move from Ash (similar to Tony Alford replacing Stan Drayton), which is the best you can ask for, so he should be a good piece on Urban's staff.

Nine units strong, bring back those silver bullets!

"That’s the way you respect a rivalry. Then you outwork them and then you kick that ass like it’s never been kicked before." - Urban Meyer

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Buckeye1996's picture

Wow! Nice! This is huge. I like!

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SFlaBuckeye13's picture

Home fucking run!

The world is yours

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aznchipmunk's picture

ISWYDT

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kjonesATX's picture

Larry Johnson and Tony Alford are Assistant Head coaches, not Associate Head Coaches.

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Special Agent Dale Cooper's picture

Yeah. Home run.  How grown men who already went through college and already got paid responded to him as an NFL head coach is irrellevent to his ability to coach as a DC and recruit in the college game with his resume(top notch DC, college HC experience, NFL experience). 

Since Ash is essentially just coaching for the Bowl Game but recruiting for Rutgers, is Schiano allowed to immediately begin recruiting?

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

Big time, big time, big time, big time, big time, big time, big time! Yes!!!

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

I like the hire.  Former Rutgers coach replaces the new Rutgers coach.  

Class of 2010.

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

You can file that one to "news I wasn't expecting to hear today" in the "good news" subfolder.

Class of 2010.

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Mr. President's picture

That style works in college...not the NFL. 

L.H.Z.N.L.

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Browns88's picture

Schiano may be an autocratic coach, but Urban is the Alpha Male.  He'll real him in

Browns88

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Buck68's picture

thanks, 97Buckeye.  Some useful input & questions amidst the usual blizzard... ;-{)}

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blocko330's picture

Me likey!!!!

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brandonbauer87's picture

I like the hire but I don't know much about him. His resume speaks for itself, both good and bad. What kind of defensive philosophy is he known for? I'm assuming it has to line up with what we've been doing to some extent. 

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Buck68's picture

philosophy; and 'scheme' as someone else mentioned also...

awaiting the 11W Xs & Os experts input....

G BUCKS!

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rdubs's picture

Already here:

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osu07asu10's picture

You know what? If he is already here doing work, I'm all for a good redemption story.

In Urban I trust!

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

Yes!!!

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steve-OH's picture

Dang, that was really fast.

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Buck68's picture

interesting non-verbals...

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O's Pancake Factory's picture

I listened to GS on talk radio a few weeks back and was very impressed with him....exciting hire for the Bullets and Buckeye Nation! 

2002, Desert Heat & a Crystal Football....like it was yesterday. *12 years later* -> UNDISPUTED!

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Rogabone's picture

This is exactly how I feel now. Made my Friday even better!! Go Bucks!!
 

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"That's God," St. Peter replied. "But he thinks he's Woody Hayes."

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Man he is already on campus. I think he will be great with a young stable of defensive guys next year

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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shizawn9415's picture

I hate this term and how its used lately but.....

HOMERUN HIRE!

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FalcotoyourMartel's picture

As long as it doesn't turn in to a HOMER, UNHIRE!

Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever. -Falco

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jaxbuckeye's picture

Awesome (is that still a word?) hire. With the new hires at Rutgers and Maryland, along with the Maryland money, it was important to get a good recruiter with ties to the east coast. Slam. Dunk. 

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Mr. President's picture

This might be the best hire Urban has ever made (even dating back to FL), and that says a lot. Man, what a great hire and what a great to be a Buckeye

L.H.Z.N.L.

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TShell's picture

Let's pump the breaks on that one there. It sounds great, and I'm excited too. But better than Texas Tom as qb whisperer that brought us some shiny hardware?

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BuckeyeBoiler's picture

Really want to know what is going on or will happen with Fickell.  He is a true Buckeye and deserves the best - whatever that may be.

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jralvarez's picture

YES!  Now THIS is a good hire!!!

Woot!  Woot!

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nickel beer's picture

The "Assoc HC" is a new add-on to the DC title, isn't it?  Something structurally will likely change within the staff, or has changed, so there's got to be another shoe or two or three to drop, I'd suspect.  And maybe it's a way to get better salary for his staff.  Very nice hire, btw.

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_Patches's picture

We can get this kind of hire for DC but settle for Beck on offense?

#HireTimBeck

If you take everything I’ve accomplished in my life and condense it down to one day, it looks decent!

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Browns88's picture

What is Greg Schiano's defensive scheme?  Haven't researched that yet

Browns88

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OSUBias's picture

Thank you. I was shocked I got this far down without someone asking. Really hope we're not going away from the identity this d has developed over the past couple of seasons. For some reason I thought he was a more traditional Cover 2-3 guy, but I have no idea why I think that.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

I feel like Beck is going to stay the way he is out recruiting Haskins and other QBs

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Andy Vance's picture

Agreed. Are there even any James Madison -type programs open yet, looking for a shiny new head coach? Because leaving to take on a HC position at a smaller school is the only way I see Beck leaving before next season at this point, it just seems like it's been too long.

louts8wings's picture

If there's a move with Beck it will be after the bowl game. 

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bucks15's picture

Unfortunately I agree, but I would rather replace Beck and not take a QB this class if given the ultimatum.

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fenger's picture

Wonder how this plays into the dynamics with Fickell.  Hate to see our defense wound up in the same "experimental" mode as our offense did this past year...great hire on paper, apprehensive in practice.

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Mean Mr Mustard's picture

It sounds like he was not really interested in going back to Rutgers or taking the UCF job. What he really wanted the Miami job, but didn't get it.  If he stays here for 1-3 years and wins us a Natty, he will get a HC job with a powerhouse program.

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LealmanBuckeye's picture

Yeah, Schiano might have gotten the Canes job, but as soon as Mark Richt became available, the powers-that-be in Coral Gables jumped all over Richt. Probably a good thing for Schiano to be a coordinator again before taking over a program, rather than coming in cold after taking time off.

I aim to misbehave.

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Ashwrthkid's picture

Welcome to the good guys!
 

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TexasNut's picture

Not sure what to think. Time will tell.

TexasNut

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Buck68's picture

i've been thinking for a while now that time tells belong in the poker game of life.   ;-{)}

intriguing subjective ups & downs in this hire - would think Urban's been doing some considerable tag-team homework with the new old guy lately.

GO BUCKS!

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Mr. President's picture

The guy is already recruiting. LOVE IT

L.H.Z.N.L.

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louts8wings's picture

I know a lot of people have been saying the Rashad Gary recruitment is over. But could this open things back up??? If there's a coach that could flip a recruit it's Meyer but with GS onboard now. 

What do people think??

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Can't wait to see some of the schemes he comes up with 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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BucksFam4's picture

Great find, Mr. Mustard!  Upvote for you.   Seems like Schiano used his year off like Meyer did - to reassess his approach to life & football.  Liked everything about the article except this:

       "Clad in his customary creased khaki coaching shorts—he owns more than 30 pairs...."

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steve-OH's picture

Here are some old writeups on his defensive schemes... looks like he is a 4-3 guy. 

http://www.bucsnation.com/2012/4/23/2967681/greg-schianos-defensive-phil...

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nickel beer's picture

"Bite the ball"  Spielman would like that one.  Thanks, btw.

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MichiganBuckeye222's picture

Apparently Brady Hoke was called about the job, but he hept calling back to Ohio University....

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KillrNut's picture

I like it! I remember the job he did at Rutgers, and I'm sure most of you all do too.

Excited about this...

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SilverHaven's picture

Plenty of experience, but just by the win-loss numbers, don't get too hyped:

Schiano, 49, had a record of 68-67 (.504) during his 11 seasons at Rutgers (2001-2011). 

During his two-year stint with the NFL Bucs (2012-13), Schiano compiled an 11-21 (.344) record. He's been out of coaching for the last two seasons, and worked as an analyst for ESPN this year.

Schiano had a sterling college bowl game record however: 5-1.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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Mean Mr Mustard's picture

He is definitely respected as an excellent D-Coordinator.  The fact that he turned Rutgers around and had a great bowl record is awesome.  The HC has more time to get involved in the game plan

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huntinwabbits's picture

Tom Herman's OC/QB stint with Iowa State when Urban found him was 7-6. 5-7 and 6-7 before accepting the same job at Ohio State.

In all things, Urban finds the people he wants, regardless of their records or recruiting stars etc. 

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SilverHaven's picture

Fair comparison, HW, it's hard to have a sterling win-loss record with a weak team.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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louts8wings's picture

Not happy with the hire???? Please tell me a coach that has won at Rutgers. Better yet Rutgers only has a bowl game history because of GS. 

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SilverHaven's picture

You read too much between the lines, L8W. I'm neither happy nor sad about the hire. I did quote Schiano's coaching record as objective facts to compare with the hyperbole about the hire.  Someone on here later pointed out that Schiano did very well to turn Rutgers around in the beginning and then had losing seasons.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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Mr. President's picture

Dude, we're not hiring him as a head coach...so all of that is irrelevant. There is a reason he received the opportunity to be a college head coach. Head coaching jobs aren't just handed out. From Rutgers he went on to coach in the NFL...once again NFL head coaching jobs aren't just handed out (unless you're the Browns). His track record coaching the defensive side of the ball is the reason he received the oppertunity to be a head coach.  

L.H.Z.N.L.

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SilverHaven's picture

Mr. Dude, yes, later news reports are now stating that Schiano had been looking for another head coaching gig for 3 years-- but given his track record, there were no takers.  So Urban may have picked up some good talent that has been humbled enough to accept a defensive coordinator position.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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DEF D's picture

Maybe he can help with getting Rashan Gary?

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AppalachianStateGradIIIBuckeye4Life's picture

I'm not sure if anyone realizes how good Rashan Gary is.  Like he isn't just some guy...The last time a player was a 1.000 on 247 it was Robert Nkemdiche. The last tweet he made was a retweet of Jabrill Peppers winning B1G freshman of the year.  IMO that ship has sailed and we will pay dearly for his decision in the years to come.  

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DaBuckMD's picture

Or you could focus on Nick Bosa

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RBloodworth's picture

Holy.  Shit.  THIS is how heavyweight programs are supposed to act.  I never saw Schiano taking anything other than a HC job.  BTW, how about them apples, Rutgers?  The GREATEST HEAD COACH IN YOUR SCHOOL'S HISTORY would rather be our DC than go back to coach you again.  OUCH.

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LealmanBuckeye's picture

+1, but to be fair, given how Rutgers is trying to distance themselves from their recent issues, bringing Schiano back in might have been perceived as "more of the same". Fresh coach, fresh face. Meanwhile, Schiano hones his coaching chops in Columbus before he leaves for his next job.

I aim to misbehave.

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Dasniksder's picture

I feel like I should've seen this coming, but I didn't and I'm glad I didn't because this was an awesome surprise.

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aznchipmunk's picture

5-1 in bowl games.

From Bucknell, to the Bucs, to the Buckeyes.

Proud graduate of THE Online State University.

Become a 12th Warrior today!

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joel121270's picture

I like it.....I like it a....lot

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DoubleB's picture
Fantastic, home run hire. Love it!

Worry is a misuse of imagination.

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

Interesting.  Does not show a lot of faith in Luke Fickell but it's definitely a high profile hire.  Is Luke's goal to be a non-co DC some day I wonder?

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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Mean Mr Mustard's picture

I do not know if this will happen, but maybe Fickell will take over more of the special teams responsibilities, along w/ Coombs, which would allow Meyer more time to fix the mess on offense

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Mr. President's picture

I think Urban realizes that Luke doesnt want to coach for anybody other than the Buckeyes, so he does these kind of things. Luke will never take another job unless he is forced to. 

L.H.Z.N.L.

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SwnsnGody's picture

#hottake over at Mgoblog... 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

125 comments already..you would think by reading them they were the ones that won 42-13 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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LealmanBuckeye's picture

I don't even know who they've interviewed to replace Durkin. I don't know who they would bring in to counter a move like Meyer bringing in Schiano.

I aim to misbehave.

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1MechEng's picture

Promote Greg Mattison?

Trust me! I'm an Engineer.

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louts8wings's picture

It's funny majority of the posts they are trashing his resume but what was it a year ago they were considering interviewing him as a HC??

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YinzerBuck's picture

They all thought they were getting Jeremy Pruitt.....

LOL.

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Mean Mr Mustard's picture

It sounds like Schiano is a Cover-2, zone blitz kind of guy.  One of the crazy things that happened, when he was in Tampa, is that they had one of the best cover corners in history and they ran mostly Cover-2.

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LealmanBuckeye's picture

Another crazy thing was when Schiano was putting his staff together, and he poached Bill Sheridan to be his DC, when Sheridan had just been named D-backs coach under new Buckeye coach Urban Meyer. This prompted Meyer to go out and get Kerry Coombs.

Funny how everything works out.

I aim to misbehave.

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Chicago Buckeye's picture

Great hire!  Now all we need is a replacement for Tim Beck.  

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ddilley2000's picture

Urban F'n Meyer is just a flat out junkyard dog. Takes bigtime swings and clears the fences all the dam* time. Unbelievable.

PumpHandleSlam

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Phillips.449's picture

Thank you for fixing the "breaking news" section by eliminating the bad grey box and putting up a good grey box!

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pdan46's picture

Outstanding hire! This should really help the Defense continue it's progress and get even more aggressive.  Also, Schiano is respected throughout the country and will definitely help with East Coast Recruiting, especially in NJ, which is becoming a hot bed.

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umbyosu's picture

Worthy of the gray box.....oh, I miss the gray box (the good ones, that is!)  The Tressel resigning type of gray box, na na!
 

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b01000100's picture

I mean, he's no Harbaugh, but I suppose tOSU will get by.

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DJRivera24's picture

Knda crazy to think one of the mentioned options earlier this week was Buckeye legend Antoine Winfield, who has no coaching experience. Urban instead goes out and gets a guy with head coaching experience at the college and pro level. Apparently he can recruit coaches too, love the hire!

12-OH

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buckeyeinWI's picture

SWEET!  Welcome aboard coach!

15-1 is SWEET!

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Eph97's picture

Our failed NFL HC >>>> scUM's failed NFL wr coach

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CTownBucknut's picture

Like basically everybody, I love this hire!  I do have a question, what defense does Schiano typically favor, and how similar is that scheme to what Ash and Fick have been running?  If his scheme is far different, do you see him adjusting his scheme to something closer to the current scheme, based on the talent present, and the familiarity they already have with the scheme they've been running the last few years? 

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

Most excellent hire!  Schiano is a tough-nosed coach.

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InJTweMust's picture

Excellent hire! His record as a HC is solid considering where he has been, but he isn't being asked to come in and run the program.

Schiano is one of the better defensive minded coaches in football; that he has had time off to sit back and reflect and scheme and all those things will only bode well for the Buckeyes. His willingness to take an "understudy" role probably already speaks to his desire to become a better coach, which also bodes well for Ohio State.

This will undoubtedly impact recruiting, but for the players who aren't guaranteed to go in the first round of the draft, players like Apple, Lee, Bell... If Urban has any intention of trying to convince those guys of staying, he can now point to a solid year of coaching from one of the more well-respected defensive minds in the game, as well as an opportunity at redemption for this season.

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Eph97's picture

Hope he can swoop in and steal Gary from scUM. How hilarious would that be? I can imagine Schiano telling Gary:

"Oh Chris Partridge. That's nice.  Why do you want to play for your ex- HIGH SCHOOL coach. I'm a former NFL HEAD COACH; come play for me."

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flabucknut1's picture

He will be an absolute asset to our team! He can recruit and he has NFL experience. It's a no brainier . I think that Coach did a great job in such a short time and he is a likeable personality and had a successful run in NCAA. Thanks Coach for using your connections!!! They know each other well and that means a lot in the business and coaching world...The East Coast pull will  be the defining testament as to what he really brings to the table. Time will tell but my family is happy and my dollars to the University this Christmas will reflect our gratitude for loving OUR School !! I live in Fla. and can honestly tell you that he Had ZERO support in Tampa as far as the Managements faith and who and where they got their players from. He will be fine and have all of the 11 Warriors support and those who don't like it will hide behind their preliminary Bullshit talk and in a year they will all be telling all of us what a Genious move this was. Welcome aboard GREG !!!!!!!!  We are behind you all of the way. Let's go BUCKS and let's Go Greg !! You da Man...Fiesta Bowl here we come! Let's put more Red faces on the Irish Team and Fans other than their ASSHOLE COACH. ! 

JR

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BrewstersMillions's picture

I think as a head coach, the guy is insufferable. He was awful in Tampa and there was a lot out about how bad he was with NFL people inquiring about his players at Rutgers. With that said, he isn't the face of a program so Meyer can harness all the good that he does bring. I'm ok with this move.

Proudly dispensing unbridled arrogance since 1983.

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The Buckeye Bullet's picture

Great hire!

Now if they do the same thing with an Offensive Coordinator we will be enhancing the program.

Would love to see some NFL experience on the offensive side of the ball.

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Whoa Nellie's picture

Seems like a good hire to me. But, I'm naive.

“Don’t fear criticism. The stands are full of critics. They play no ball. They fight no fights. They make no mistakes because they attempt nothing. Down on the field are the doers, they make mistakes because they attempt many things.”

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ELJTSA76's picture

I'm impressed. But I wonder if recruits are so young that they may not remember the success he manufactured over at Rutgers. It's only a handful of years for most of us, but a 17 year old recruit may have been in elementary school or middle school at that time. 

Regardless, I think he is a great coach, and will prove to be a great addition to our recruiting team and also capable of continuing the strong defensive tradition at OSU!

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EarleFan's picture

Now just run Tim Beck the fuck off a cliff and we're good!  Giant P.O.S. Nebraska assbag

"I didn't get a harrumph outta that guy!"

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yantubos's picture

Add my inconsequential voice to those in approval of this hire!

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bafiesta's picture

You comment made the thread! Put me down for rating this hire an 11. 

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BroJim's picture

I'm for it.

I season my simple food with hunger

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johngobuck's picture

To me it sounds like the guy has toured lots of great programs learning what he can.   And a lot of self reflecting on what he could do differently.  

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/11/04/nfl-greg-schiano-year-off

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OldTownBuckNut's picture

In UFM we trust. 

Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.

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johnjy78's picture

Anyone have any insight about Meyer's 2yr agreement being a two way street? He asks assistants to commit two years to the program before leaving, but does Urban also commit that he will keep them on for two years before he decides to let them go? Just curious. I mainly ask this in reference to Tim Beck. I am so unfamiliar with him even after a season of football. Many seem to point the finger at him concerning some of the offensive struggles... I still just feel like, "Who is this guy?" Doesn't seem to get much exposure to the media.

johnjy78

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Chicago Buckeye's picture

So is he the DC or co DC?  I have read articles saying both.  If he is the DC what about Fickell?  Fickell in my opinion has earned his position.  He is a good DC and a Buckeye.  If Schiano is the full DC what does that mean for Luke?

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HorseOnATreadmill's picture

Great hire guys, congrats.  I always figured Schiano was going to end up in a new head coaching gig, but having him as a DC under Meyer should pay major dividends.

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BucksHave7's picture

Love this hire!!!!  Chris Ash and James Franklin both just realized Urban now owns NJ and eastern PA recruiting!

BucksHave7

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Buck68's picture

The Co in Cohesion

As Urban's success  continues, the coaching staff door revolves, adaptations increase, swings and misses increase, and... who knows 'how it really is' 'in the Buckeye culture'?

IDK what or how much Luke Fickell has improved as a football coach in this Buckeye tenure, but regardless of that:

1]  He's proven by eloquent silence over the years he can take the Buckeye fan/expert barbs and heat, in season and out... and keep right on ticking.

2] titles, $$$, and roles aside, Luke is now The Program Continuity here.  He knows the details, the way the little things are done and why that's big, how to deal with the unending distractions & hype.

3] NEWS ALERT:  Luke ain't The Young Guy any more... inasmuch as he is a solid contributor anywhere in the recruiting process, he can help any of our other recruiters in any of their roles without 'having to be or be seen as 'the leader'.

There is an intangible value to such a... counselor, advisor, group attitude monitor, teamwork encourager, cross the T & dot the I gopher... what is termed in group dynamics, 'the group maintainer'.  An effective group maintainer is ever in the background, plugging little holes before they burst, making sure the daily table is set for player effort & learning....  He serves best when least noticed by Noledgable Knowers of this title or that salary or the ubiquitous 'track record' .  He resolves or redirects the frictions and distractions of human conflict.

This requires not 'loyalty' ... but a certain dedication to loyalty based on  .... "honesty & integrity".  And it definitely does NOT require, as Luke famously said when at YSU "i'd crawl on my belly to get a spot on the staff at tOSU".  For this is a moral loyalty, not a slither to somewhere.  This is a kind of selfless love that doesn't count, be it a wrong or right, but keeps its eye on the journey so as to keep seeking the ultimate prize.  For it is what you contribute to your team, in spite of all your faults and distractions... that counts.

Thanks, Luke... Thee Buckeye Sticker!

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

He loves Scarlet a lot I suppose... It is a fine color afterall. Welcome to the fam, and honestly, I don't care who comes in so long as they are winners.

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

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vball10set's picture

Great hire...now, about that OC...

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