Video: Urban Meyer Knew The 2013 Team Would Lose the B1G Championship

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Mortc15's picture

The reason Meyer can be completely honest and tell his team the truth is because he's been to the top and knows what it takes to get there. 

His players believe in him and each other and know if they listen to him and take his word they'll get where they need to be eventually. 

Very few coaches can be completely honest with their teams and get away with it like he does. No sugar coating and no BS. Just The cold hard truth. 

Now look where they are.

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Buckeye06's picture

I think the reason he can be honest today is because OSU won this year.  Makes being honest about a top 10 finish last year a little easier 

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jpbuckeye's picture

He has been honest about performance since arriving at tOSU. Google: ohio state and clown show.

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AzBuckeye45's picture

You are exactly right Buckeye06.

"Cause I couldn't go for three!"
Woody Hayes-1968

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Mortc15's picture

He was honest about 2013 during that season too. "The linebackers aren't up to OSU expectations." "Losing Christian Bryant hurts. His play and leadership can't be made up for easily" 

The days of expecting to lose are behind this program now, though. 

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razrback16's picture

Yep +1. You're going to struggle to beat good teams with a non functional defense. So many people focus on that 4th and 1. Urban said this spring that we didn't lose that game because of that 4th and 1 and I agree with him. He says they had 3 units who were not functioning like they should have been. The LBs & DBs were non functional in 2013. How many huge plays did they give up against MSU? If they had done their jobs we would have won. Same against Clemson. Thankfully the ship got righted in 2014.

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Buckeye06's picture

I really don't think you see Meyer make those comments if OSU hadn't won it all last year.  He said after the B1G game in 2013 that he thought we were a "great" team, and he said the same thing in 2012.  No way was 2012 a great OSU team.  They won all their games but they didn't look like a great team. 

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

I think you got half of it.  He can be honest because he's been to the top, but he's also seen the very bottom.  Meyer can relate and is honest with his players because he knows that lying, and sugar coating takes you nowhere but to denial, and I don't mean the Egyptian river.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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CowCat's picture

Urban has been direct and honest from the get go. I spoke to a guy who played for him at Bowling Green -same story: honest and direct but caring about his players' futures. Supposedly he would run laps around campus to catch any players hanging out or slacking.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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UrbanPirate's picture

Right on Mort-remember how Urban showed the team where the national championship banner was going to hang in their facility before they left for Dallas? His belief in his team and ever honest assesment instilled in them that they were on a path to destiny.

Just... Go Bucks.

    

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Potatodigger's picture

Sitting on a pile of rings sounds painful. Can't he just sit next to the pile?

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Mcgahee'sLeg's picture

Your profile pic looks eerily similar to Mark May! lol

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buckits's picture

Wish I could UV this.  Spot on.

"Put your foot in the ground and go as hard as you can. 4-6 seconds, A to B. Everything you got."

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Potatodigger's picture

Now I'm going to have to change my profile picture ...

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REDROCKER1013's picture

Don't insult Mr. Potato Head.....he's a stud compared to Mark May and one hell of a lot smarter! 

"CAN THEY CATCH HIM - NO THEY CAN'T - TOUCHDOWN"

http://pelotonia.org/TEAM-ZEHNDER---RIDING-IN-MEMORY-OF-EMILY

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OSU_1992_UFM's picture

.he's a stud compared to Mark May and one hell of a lot smarter! 

Don't you mean spud?

I'll find the door 

Spring football is like non-alcoholic beer.  It looks like what you want, but only intensifies your desire for the real thing--Earle

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REDROCKER1013's picture

A spud would be both as well. 

"CAN THEY CATCH HIM - NO THEY CAN'T - TOUCHDOWN"

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Rocket Man's picture

drumroll please

 Success - it's what you do with what you've got.  - Woody Hayes

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cinserious's picture

This will be Urban one day. Just exchange the gold coins for championship rings.

urbz MCDuck

One day I will valiantly become a political prisoner of 11W jail.

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Potatodigger's picture

Loved DuckTales.

I don't DV. Most people don't deserve it, and the ones who do probably enjoy it.

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Yenots11's picture

All I can think of when i see this now.

Go Bucks!! 

"Aut viam inveniam aut faciam!"

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CooperRuinedMyChildhood's picture

These 2 GIFs LOLZ

In Urban We Trust.

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CooperRuinedMyChildhood's picture

These 2 GIFs LOLz

In Urban We Trust.

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SilverBullets4Life's picture

Haha...Love it. Talespin was still the best tho!

MACTE VIRTUTE

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OSU_1992_UFM's picture

Its many small objects that form a hard surface!

Spring football is like non-alcoholic beer.  It looks like what you want, but only intensifies your desire for the real thing--Earle

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fear_the_nut70's picture

It is time to lay off of Brady Hoke.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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hetuck's picture

Kind of like the Iron Throne.

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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Blackbeards Delight's picture

Yes but it would be nice to see the addition of a crushed Alabama and Oregon helmet. 

"Adequately achieving on 40% brawn, 40% Bourbon, and 20% good looks, is over achieving."

- Me

 

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SilverBullets4Life's picture

And Mark May begging for Urban's mercy...and receiving none!

MACTE VIRTUTE

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CowCat's picture

I would have flattened helmets, as we ran right over them

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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Scarletsmashmouthleatherhead's picture

Where can I get this poster?  Freak'n awesome.

Never let up !

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

Urban the Destroyer's  sword is appropriately piercing the hated rival's headgear.

"Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women!" --- Conan the Barbarian

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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bleedscarlet's picture

" A king should never sit easy"

    ~Aegon I

Slingin' swag since 1970

 

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Habu71's picture

Great stuff, DJ thanks for sharing. 

You're only 28, how could you possibly know what's good and what's not? You should give golf another shot. (And slip in some Skyline while you're at it). 

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D.J. Byrnes's picture

I plan on eating at Skyline and writing an article about it at some point during the offseason.

Los Angeleno by birth; Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

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Habu71's picture

I am both encouraged and concerned about this at the same time. Never the less, I'm looking forward to the outcome.

In all seriousness, since May of last year I've spent many days holding vigil at a local hospital. Your work here has made for a pleasant start to some not so pleasant days. Thank you, you're a fine writer and your self deprecating style does not hide your commitment to excellence.  

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Nashville's picture

Sorry to hear that. Best wishes and prayers for you regarding that situation. 

"You can never pay back, but you can always pay forward."

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Habu71's picture

Thanks, Nashville things are looking up. I appreciate the kind words.

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D.J. Byrnes's picture

Godspeed, Habu, and thank you for the kind words. I'm blessed to do what I do and make enough to afford a roof over my head, so it's not seen as a labor on my part.
 

Los Angeleno by birth; Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

You probably shouldn't ever look forward to the "outcome" of someone eating at Skyline.

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Habu71's picture

I eat Skyline all the time, and I don't see any reason...wait, you may be on to something. Thanks for the tip.

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THE's picture

We need pictures - with the Skyline all over your face, like when toddlers eat spaghetti.

Then, you must write a before, during and after segment...

Spoiler - Its not good.

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D.J. Byrnes's picture

As anybody in my life can attest: The chance of me not getting Skyline on my face like a toddler is substantially lower than 0.

Los Angeleno by birth; Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

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gbdawg's picture

Skyline is awesome. 5 way with hot sauce for the last 35 years

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VintonCountyBuck's picture

Just as an FYI.  The Skyline Chili Resteraunt on 4th street in Cincinnati serves beer.  I believe it is the only one in the state that does.  It is also within walking distance from Great American Ballpark.

“Right now, Michigan is not at the pinnacle of college football, and that’s all Urban Meyer cares about...He’s been there and knows what it takes to get there.” 

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Honest question here, but does one learn to like Skyline chilli maybe say, after a college night out partying?  I remember thinking taco bell was awesome.  Now that I act (more) like an adult and can actually afford decent fare, I can't remember the last time I ate at Taco Bell (and my digestive system is grateful for this)? 

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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RocknRollover's picture

Wonder what he saw between this year and last year's B1G championship game?  I don't know if anyone else saw this, but I noticed that Meyer had a big smirk on his face right before the Wisconsin game started as if he knew they were going to destroy them.

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BuckeyeSouth's picture

IIRC that smirk began the week of the Michigan St. game and I looked for it the week leading up to the rest of the games last season.

Champions.  Undisputed.  

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jbirmmd's picture

I noticed that as well, he had this amazing (and, IMO, unexpected) swagger heading into that game

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InJTweMust's picture

If you live to tell about it, or an office-like bathroom.

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acBuckeye's picture

Not to second-guess Urbz b/c he knows way more than me, but I wonder if Guapo thought Sparty was better?

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danmas's picture

Urban said that he looked around and not all of the "units" were strong.  I assume he meant the DB's or LB's? Or both?  And maybe the WR's??  I think he thought highly of Philly Brown, but no so much the other guys.

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

I think you hit it correctly, Danmas. It was an on-going concern throughout the 2013 regular season, especially towards the end. The defense gave up huge passing yardage, and the Bucks' offense increasingly became run-dominant when the WR's faced sticky man coverage (as with Sparty).

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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Earle's picture

How did he know they wouldn't give the ball to Hyde?

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AzBuckeye45's picture

Horrible game. I'd rather completely forget about that game altogether. 

"Cause I couldn't go for three!"
Woody Hayes-1968

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jbirmmd's picture

One wonders how different that game would have been had Carlos gotten 20 second half carries.

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razrback16's picture

I always wondered how different the game might have been with a functional defense in Scarlet & Gray. I think we saw it in 2014.

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iamcbs's picture

Urban's full of shit on this one, he stopped giving the ball to El Guapo and failed to challenge the man coverage deep with our WR's. That's all on him!! They weren't better than us!!

The degree of one's emotions varies inversely to one's knowledge of the facts, the less you know the hotter you get!!

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BrutusB's picture

They were definitely better than us.  As was Clemon.  Urban knew our 24-0 streak was misleading because we just didn't stack up top to bottom against the best teams.  Our secondary and LBs were awful and our offense had two reliable plays (Braxton run or Hyde run).  No need to polish a turd and try to rewrite history.

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Yeah, I agree with you on this one too.  I know everyone thinks we should have run Hyde on those key third and fourth down players (and I would have liked to have seen it too since I know the plays called didn't work), but I remember MSU really selling out on the run by bringing guys up.  I think the fourth down play might have worked but Fragel didn't hold his block.  Point is, that run was in response to what MSU was doing defensively--we were basically a two trick pony (as you described above), and MSU schemed to take those away.  By the end of 2013, the down field passing was erratic and it left Herman & Meyer few options on key plays.  Just the way I see it now.

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Jcam3588's picture

Urban did challenge them, the WR's could not get separation, the announcers talked about it all game, & when they did & Braxton put it on them they dropped it, Devin's TD drop, Spencer's drop of a 3rd down conversion that would have been key as MSU, took the lead back the next drive, our D especially the LB's other than Shazier & our secondary was pathetic, wake up & smell reality...

"Because I couldn't go for three."

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booj's picture

they were better. doesn't mean we still couldn't have pulled one out.

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Seattle Linga's picture

Fun to look back and hear what went on behind the scenes - Man I love Urban he's so genuine

The off season bites !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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BuckInNashville's picture

Hey Nashville, I'm tired of watching Buckeye games in bars filled with crimson. Let me know if you're interested in getting a group together for some Music City camraderie on game days , and we can exchange email addresses to make it happen 

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Scarletsmashmouthleatherhead's picture

BW3 in Murfreesboro has a large Buckeye following.  I live in Rockvale, about 10 miles away. Great place to watch Buckeye games with good people.

Never let up !

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Hovenaut's picture

Easier to admit after winning the title.

(Reread with your 11W sarcasm eyewear, if needed)

Hindsight is, and in, 2020

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Buckloving's picture

I didn't think so. In fact I think we would have won except for some questionable play calling. Did we have a great team. Of course not. Our D was extremely weak. That doesn't mean I knew we would lose

bobbyd

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Wesleyburgess1's picture

In the end I would rather things happened the way they did. Come back and win a NC. I doubt we would have matched up with Florida St. very well.

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GoBucksOSU's picture

It's sad but after the B1G title game, I had the same thought and then seeing what Clemson's offense did to us only confirmed it.

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AzBuckeye45's picture

Exactly. 

"Cause I couldn't go for three!"
Woody Hayes-1968

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fear_the_nut70's picture

Sometimes it IS losses like the MSU one that fuels a team the next time around.  I seem to remember a lot of players saying they didn't want to experience that feeling after the MSU loss in 2014.

You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.

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Baxter4's picture

Coaches, players and fans.  Create a single presence.  We were not able to win that game.  The least important issue is what we were.  OSU is a different team now. 

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

Thus, the forlorn picture of an obviously downcast Coach Meyer eating a tasteless pizza after the CCG loss to Sparty. I really felt bad for him and the team after seeing that.

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

See the quote at the bottom of my avatar name here......Times have changed.....

Saban on a cart eating cold pizza

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fear_the_nut70's picture

I know people get tired of these standard football cliches, but defenses win championships.  MSU had one of the filthiest we have seen in recent B1G Ten history.  Ours in 2013, not so much.

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Rocket Man's picture

From the title I got an image of Urban in a fancy turban like Johnny Carson doing Karnak the Magnificent (I'm old)

But it turned out being a much better story.

 Success - it's what you do with what you've got.  - Woody Hayes

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BuckeyeLurker0509's picture

what a load of *cough*

that game was winnable. 

we WERE better than michigan state. we werent better than Clemson. That Clemson team would have shredded MSU as well.

he/tom herman blew it. big deal. it happens. plz stop with the self fulfilling prophecy malarkey.

winning two titles in a row will be redemption.

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GoBucksOSU's picture

Seriously? How can you undervalue MSU's defense in 2013? It was a bad night for every player that night for anyone not named Carlos Hyde. We came closer to beating Clemson than we did to MSU.

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

Disagree. Ryan Shazier blocked an MSU punt with about 2 1/2 minutes left in the game and OSU got the ball at the MSU 42 down by three. That's when the infamous 4th and 1 came into play. MSU got the ball back and scored a late TD on a run by Langford. We get that 1st down and we probably win, or at least send it into overtime.

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GoBucksOSU's picture

Considering Hyde was the only player on offense playing well, it was still no sure thing that we could win even if we converted. At least in the Clemson game, I think we could have won by 10 points about if not for Philly Brown's momentum changing muffed punt, and even besides that, we were in position to possibly score on the final possession of the game but then Braxton had what I ended up calling a "WTF interception".

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

Braxton was in some serious pain that last drive. I've always said, even at the time, that Kenny G. should have taken on that last possession.

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GoBucksOSU's picture

That's what I said too. Braxton should have come out of the game. Let Kenny Guiton, the senior, lead the team to victory.

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Lurker knows more than the best college football coach in the country???

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BuckeyeLurker0509's picture

obviously. i have 5 national championships. when urban gets one for his thumb, he can talk to me.

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armstrong351's picture

Damn, that man just commands respect when he speaks!  Very motivational watching how confidently he carries himself.  

Good is not good enough, where better is expected

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Joebobb's picture

Heck when we got shredded on D by TTUN the week before, and when Illinois kept the game closer than we would have liked, I knew we would likely lose to MSU. Injuries took a toll on that D and they were not in position to step up like they needed.

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