Hot Take Alert: This Historical Ohio State Basketball Team Would Be Fun to Watch

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SaltyD0gg's picture

No Sully at the four? Nice to have Turner and Russell coming off the bench for that group, too.

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BrutusB's picture

I like Sully, but he's no Jerry Lucas.  Also Turner would be an awesome 6th man.

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SaltyD0gg's picture

Fair enough. Funderburke is just a unconscionable inclusion over either of these guys.

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Eph97's picture

Thought I read somewhere that Lucas averaged a triple double over the course of a season while at OSU. I'd put Lucas up against any college player from any team. Perhaps the greatest college basketball player ever. From his wiki:

"He was named to Sports Illustrated '​s five-man College All-Century Team in 1999."

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Nope, no Suliy. Lucas could do everything twice as good as Sullinger, except throw his butt around. Hopson instead of Havlicek, he IS Ohio State's all time leading scorer. Make Havlicek the 6th man, he could play 4 positions if need be, Sixth man was his claim to fame in the NBA. Hondo, with the help of Red Auerbach, created the concept. 

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HolyBuckeye1093's picture

Yea it's not a knock on Sully he just ran into a buzzsaw on the block. Oden was a whole other level defensively and Lucas is a HOF. I do not agree with Funderburk at all when were talking all time. Diebler needs some consideration at the wing as well and also having a David Lighty that could match up with anyone from 1-4 defensively. Then obviously ET and Russell would be great picks as well.

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SMOLNAR13's picture

my buddy and I discussed a starting 5 of the Thad Era just the other day, came up with a pretty lethal team as well (mind you they had to mesh as a team, not just best players recruited)

PG-Conley

SG- Russ

SF-Lighty

PF-Sully

C-Oden

Would be a fun team to watch

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Dr. IlliBuckeye's picture

I would put Evan Turner at SF over Lighty.

And no Twiggie?  Or the Shark?

Also, the all-Matta team likely would beat the all-pre Matta team.

Conley, Russell, Turner, Sully, Oden vs. Penn, Jackson, Redd, Havlicek, Lucas

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SMOLNAR13's picture

We liked turner in that spot, but were thinking how team would mesh/defend things like that. ET wasn't exactly the strongest defender, and is there enough ball to go around with ET in the line-up as well?  We were thinking more in actual in-game situations I guess, not just best player at respected position. But agree, Matta team  vs Pre Matta woulld be a great game, and to think that Thad has only(in comparison) been around for 10 years!

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Dr. IlliBuckeye's picture

In that case, we may just want to put Diebler at the two spot over Russell (or Lighty/ ET), since we know he excelled on the inside-out game with Sully.  That combo was sick.  You couldn't double either of them, which made it work perfectly.

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PortlandBuckeye45's picture

Diebler was one of my favs to watch. That kid put the ball in the air, t magically went in. That game against Wisconsin... what did he go for 10/10 from the three??? 2011 I wanna say at home????

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Dr. IlliBuckeye's picture

He missed his first 3 pointer that game and finished 9/10 from beyond the arc.  I think that was the Deal with It game.

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Oakland Buckeye's picture

All -non- Matta team wins 7 of 10 games. Lucas, Redd, Havlicek & Jackson - all Olympians & LONG TIME NBA stars. Lucas 12 years # 67 all time scorer, HOF; Hondo - 16 yrs #19  all -itme score, HOF; JJ 14 years #366 scorer; Redd 12 yrs, #209 all time scorer. These 4 plus Conley Jr.

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Dr. IlliBuckeye's picture

You would have to replace Conley with Penn.  Also, comparison of accolades in the NBA doesn't work due to length of time in the NBA and Oden has been crazy injured.

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IGotAWoody's picture

I liked Penn, but I would slot Kelvin Ransey in his spot. Ransey was an earlier, and I would say more complete, version of Scoonie.

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Herb Williams had the best CAREER as a Center in Ohio State history. Oden had one year. Wiliams scored 2011 points, at the time an Ohio State record. He had 1111 rebounds, still second all time to Jerry Lucas. He holds the Ohio State record for most field goals made 834. He is 2nd in blocked shots in Ohio State history with 328.

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AJBor41's picture

Still tough to say he had the best career over Lucas. Lucas was just 21 points shy of Herb's mark and outrebounded him by 300...but in one less season.

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Not comparing Williams to Lucas. Don't think of Lucas as a center, he is a power forward as his NBA career showed. 

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DLaw61's picture

The pre Matta team would beatdown the Matta team, double digits easy. Two NBA Hall of Famers who both won NCAA titles and NBA titles, Jimmy Jackson, MIchael Redd, Alan Hornyak, Dennis Hopson (all time leading scorer), Herb Williams, Clark Kellogg, Funderburke, man I'm not even going to waste any more of my time.  Pre Matta team would be 15 point underdogs IMO.  Honestly I wouldn't pay money to watch that beatdown. The only Matta player who would have a chance to start for pre Matta is Conley but that's just my opinion. I think the pre Matta 2nd team would handle the Matta all stars. Someone mention BJ Mullens vs Lucas? Let me guess Kosta Koufos would school Herb Williams?  Bahahahaha

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Light??? Surely you jest!  

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RedStorm45's picture

His original starting 5 didn't include a single NPOY....are you kidding?

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rosenbuck's picture

I saw it yesterday and Jerry Lucas wasn't on the team.  I was floored, he's the best buckeye basketballer ever IMO.

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RedStorm45's picture

Any serious list would include AT LEAST two of the three to win NPOY, starting with Lucas.  Then Jackson/Turner.

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Frankmcdee's picture

Jimmy Jackson over Redd in a landslide... Redd off the bench for instant offense.  Personally, Oden would be off the bench too.  Slide Hondo to center with Lucas and Clark Kellogg at forwards, with Jackson and Conley at guards.  A bench of Redd, Oden, Herb Williams, Bobby Knight and Scoonie Penn would be formidable.

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RedStorm45's picture

Bob Knight?  Not sure if serious or...

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Frankmcdee's picture

Ok Ok.. I admit I like throwing his name around, because most Ohio State fans are unaware he played a reserve role with Jerry Lucas and Hondo in the early 60's.  Also, I think most feel Ohio State sports started some time in 1990.

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Meek's picture

When I lived in Indiana, I loved trolling my Hoosier co-workers by calling him Buckeye Bob (Knight).

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Earle's picture

I'm amazed that more people aren't screaming about the omission of Jackson.

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Maestro's picture

Dude could take over a college basketball game like few before or after him could, and was a National Player of the Year.

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Earle's picture

Yep, nothing but love for Michael Redd, but give me JJ in a heartbeat.

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Spider1944's picture

Bobby Knight couldn't start on Lucas/Havlicek/Nowell squad. 

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Maestro's picture

Jim Jackson absolutely has to be in the starting 5 somewhere.  ABSOLUTELY!!!

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BuckGnome's picture

Hell yes!  Michael Redd was an awesome OSU player, but Jimmy Jackson gets the nod here no question.

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polarbuck's picture

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UFest57's picture

Alabama might have the DIRTIEST lineup ever.

Also, Ewing and 'Zoe is a hell of a front court for the Hoyas. 

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Dr. IlliBuckeye's picture

You can say that about Alabama based on Sprewell alone.

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RunningFree's picture

I'll take the UCLA front court.

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D. Anthony's picture

Funderburke has no business being on the list.

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SPUD123's picture

Funderburke was nasty to me when I was about 9 years old and asked for his autograph at a Worthington Summer League game. He implied that I would use the autograph to make money off of him - never even crossed my mind.

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RK84's picture

Did that to me too, I saw him at Eastland mall when I was young. My friend and I built up the the courage to ask him for his autograph, he blew us off told us   "I aint come here to be admired, go away kid"

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D. Anthony's picture

I was on campus and in the same dorm with Funderburke a lot...he was an ass in general and had several football players ready to kick his ass for the way he "treated" a girl he was trying to "date". He worked hard to earn his poor rep on campus and at the campus rec centers...got kicked off his high school team his senior year at Wehrle

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Keith Byars is the man's picture

This was a topic from earlier today. My take: starters Conley at the point, Jackson at the shooting guard, Hondo at small forward, Kellogg at power forward, and the greatest Buckeye Baller of all time Lucas in the post. Bench would include Redd, kelvin Ransey, Turner, Oden, Herb Williams, Hopson, and Bradds. Coached by Fred Taylor

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IGotAWoody's picture

Funny that Clark Kellogg isn't getting talked about more! And I think you're the first person to mention Dennis Hopson! Lastly, I don't think many fans know anything about Bradds, other than seeing his jersey number in the rafters and wondering "who was that guy?"

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Keith Byars is the man's picture

I put Bradds on there because his number has been retired. I googled him and found that he was the 3rd pick in the NBA draft. Could have put Bill Hosket too. Won an NBA title and Olympic Gold and was a top 10 pick in draft.

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NewPhilaFan's picture

Plus Hosket played in the 1968 Final Four when OSU lost to N Carolina.

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Buckeyedad1016's picture

I feel the same regarding Clark Kellogg. What a player! How is Funderburke in the discussion and it takes this long to mention CK.

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BuckNutChicago's picture

No mention of Jay Burson???

How about Perry Carter, Jimmy Jackson, Chris Jent, Jamaal Brown, and Mark Baker... plus Bill Robinson and Treg Lee.  My memory of Senior year!  I know Treg started, but CJ was my guy.

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Keith Byars is the man's picture

I played high school basketball against Jay Burson. Wow was he good. 

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ScarletGray43157's picture

Bill Robinson?  Even BJ Mullens was better than Robinson.  IMHO.

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theBeerPoobah's picture

Finally, someone mentions Kellogg. I was about to post his name when I saw this. Thanks Keith...Kellogg is arguably the best Ohio HS player pre LeBron (from what my dad tells me)

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Dr. IlliBuckeye's picture

I think 3bler would have to be on the bench somewhere.  Whenever you absolutely need a 3, you can call on him.  Play an inside-out game with him and Oden/ Lucas.  Squish. 

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chadb5646's picture

What? No Jimmie Jackson either? 

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ToledoMan's picture

 Starters:  Jerry Lucas, Dennis Hopson, Jim Jackson, John Havlicek, and Jamar Butler.

Bench:  Greg Oden, Jared Sullinger, Evan Turner, Michael Redd, Jay Burson

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BuckNutChicago's picture

showing some toledo love!

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SPUD123's picture

Based purely on college (not NBA): Scoonie Penn, Evan Turner, Jimmy Jackson, Jerry Lucas, John Havlicek.

Some players like Conley and Oden were left off because they only played one year.

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Scooniepenn91's picture

Havlicek deserves some attention...Dennis Hopson, too.

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selmer862's picture

I am lucky enough to have seen Lucas play, and he simply has to be there. He was the single most dominant player of his era in college, although Oscar Robertson would be a close contender. Hondo has to be there as well. I like Oden and Conley as well. There are so many choices for the fifth spot, that it's almost impossible to miss. 

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Scooniepenn91's picture

I want Jay Burson and Diebler on the team as well.

starters for me are: Conley, Diebler (almost picked Redd...love him, but Diebs was a freak as a shooter), Jackson, Lucas (at the 4) and Oden

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Evannati's picture

I'm an old guy, but I take Alan Hornyak over Burson and Diebler.

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JDbucknut's picture

I'm with you. Remember Hornyack scored 41 points per game in high school (closest thing we had to pistol pete).

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SaltyD0gg's picture

No LeBron? He has a locker after all...

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RoyWalley's picture

Jerry Lucas:

Not only was he the best Ohio State Player ever, he was the best player ever in the Big 10.

* Center: Jerry Lucas, 1960-62 – This was easy –  The impossible part is briefly describing his legendary play. Lucas was three-time Big Ten Player of the Year (POY); three-time All-American; twice national POY; first basketball player in history to win a high school state title (two), an NCAA title, an Olympic gold medal and an NBA title. That is a good start.

The three years he played, four players in the nation made more than 60 percent of their field goal attempts; three of the four were named Jerry Lucas. He appeared in three NCAA Midwest regional tournaments, three Final Fours and two eight-team in-season invitational tournaments at Ohio State. He was named Most Valuable player seven times (and injured in the final tournament). In 82 games as a Buckeye, he had 30-plus points and 30 rebounds twice; 20-plus points and 20-plus rebounds 21 times; and double-doubles 79 times. He missed a 66 game-consecutive double-double streak by one point; his longest streak was 38 straight games.

In the words of his OSU teammate and longtime Indiana coach Bob Knight, “(Lucas) is still the greatest player in the history of the Big Ten.”

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SaltyD0gg's picture

he had 30-plus points and 30 rebounds twice; 20-plus points and 20-plus rebounds 21 times; and double-doubles 79 times.

 He had more than 30 boards in a game, twice! Let that sink in for a minute. Does Amir Williams have 30 rebounds in his career yet?

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OnlyOne's picture

Read an article a few years ago that Lucas is the BEST BASKETBALL PLAYER AT ANY LEVEL EVER.  Sorry, but quick check on google did not turn up the article.  It included a quote from Bradley - a Princeton grad - about Lucas being the smartest player he ever played with/against.  Lucas left the NBA after a short stay to make his fortunes elsewhere.  Maybe not the BEST EVER, but no doubt the best Buckeye ever.  Can't take a All Time Buckeye team that does not include Lucas seriously.

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Frankmcdee's picture

Preach it loud brother man!

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Spider1944's picture

That team was so good Cleveland TV station started carrying some of their games their junior and senior years. To show you how much things have changed when the young Bucks beat California for the National Championship it not only was not on TV it was not on local radio in Cleveland. My brother and I had to walk up and down Detroit Ave in Lakewood to try to find reception. Those were the days...

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joebuckeye's picture

Oden? Funderburke?

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Jerry Lucas, Clark Kellogg, Herb Williams

Stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

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Outerbanks's picture

Herb Williams is clearly above Funderburke.

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Frankmcdee's picture

And Oden.... Herb Williams was a great college player and a very very good NBA player for a long time.  Oden had a good year on a loaded Ohio State team, and well, you know the rest..

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Keith Byars is the man's picture

Loved what Oden brought the Buckeyes his 1 season here but as I recall, he was hurt and missed some of the beginning of the season and even shot free throws left handed because of injury.

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The Rill Dill's picture

Personally, I'd take Oden over ANY college center.

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Frankmcdee's picture

Really?  Kareem?  Olajuwon?  Ewing?  Brad Dougherty?  Sampson?  Mourning? Elvin Hayes?  Honestly, he may not have been as good as Sam Bowie in college, the person he is perpetually connected to due to injury.

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lamplighter's picture

for some reason, I always thought Herb phoned it in his senior year.  I called it Phil Hubbard disease

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JDbucknut's picture

I thought I'd see more of Herbie's name popping up here. Kelvin Ransey probably on the outside looking in on this list, but was a great scorer and leader on those teams.

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scc8t's picture

Interesting to look at the other teams.

UCLA has a stacked top five team. UNC and Kansas are strong as well.

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Dr. IlliBuckeye's picture

For UNC, it is interesting they have Vince Carter on there.  Wasn't Antawn Jamison the better college player while they were there?

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Frankmcdee's picture

 Correct... and I think its odd they have Lawson over Kenny Smith.  Smith was a great player at NC and was the 6th pick in the NBA draft.  Two NBA championship rings certainly pads his resume.

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Crumb's picture

Could you imagine what Lucas and Hondo could do with a three point line?!

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ibuck's picture

Or Jerry West, who used to launch rainbows just past half-court.

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JDbucknut's picture

How many points would Pistol Pete had? He was my first memory of basketball. 40+ points a game, the flare, the flash. Never saw Cousy, but no one was ever as smooth as Pistol Pete before he became a major party animal

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Buck95's picture

You know, I don't recall seeing Bill Hosket or Robin Freeman anywhere on anyone's list.  They surely fit in somewhere, don't they?

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

Would be fun to take the top ten players and divide into two squads and analyze who would win.

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dc28's picture

No Jay Burson, Dennis Hopson, or Clark Kellogg???? But then again, someone has to be left off the list.

QUESTION????????????

Don't just pick the best players but create the best team in Ohio State History. For example: Putting Jimmy Jackson, Conley and Turner on the floor together may look awesome but then again, they may not gel. With that being said, what 5 players would you put on the floor where it would be the best TEAM and not just the best collection of players.

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RobbyBuckeye1968's picture

Jerry Lucas was the Lebron James of his era.  

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RunningFree's picture

One word sums up the UCLA vs. USC matchup -- slaughter

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oldcinci's picture

Jim would bring the ball down and get it to Jerry Lucas on the post. Every time. Every freekin time.

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Tater_Schroeder's picture

But, who's the coach?

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Keith Byars is the man's picture

Easy choice, Fred Taylor (bob Knight could fill in if need be since he did play here)

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osu25's picture

I can't believe that I'm the first to mention Gary Bradds!

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IGotAWoody's picture

He was mentioned above, but only ONCE. I don't know very much about him, but I do know that he is a Buckeye legend!

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Fort Seneca Steve's picture

John Havlicek!!!! YESIREE!!!  NO Jerry Lucas....REALLY!!  1 season does not a great Buckeye make...so Conley and Oden need to go.  Definitely replace with Jimmy Jackson and Luke Witte.  Funderburke...REALLY!? Is that for his time at OSU or IU?  If OSU was not your first pick...off you go!  That means that Alan Hornyak is also an OSU first teamer!  In the words of Jimmy Crum..."That shot came down with ice icicles on it!  How About That!!"

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lamplighter's picture

Loved Hornyak.  Great team with him and Witte

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NewPhilaFan's picture

Luke Witte's name brings back memories of the ugliest sporting event I have ever watched.  Witte was beaten badly by a criminal named Ron Behagen at a game in Minnesota when the ex-Ashland U coach was there - Bill Musselman I think.  OSU was ranked in the top 10 going into the game and the team wasn't the same afterwards and Witte's career was ruined.  The Buckeyes had Minnesota fans chasing them around the court.  Check the video on You Tube and you will also be disgusted.

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ScarletGray43157's picture

Dave Winfield was also on that thug Minny team.  Witte was never the same after that brawl.

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JDbucknut's picture

Trajedy. In today's environment, it may have been prosecuted. What could Witte have done to ever deserve that. It was frightening to watch when it happened. I can still remember it. We were never the same after that.

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northcampus's picture

Cannot have a list of OSU b-ball great without Lucas. I don't care if he played when the hoops were actual peach baskets.

And putting Redd over Jimmy Jackson is like putting Carlos Hyde over Eddie George in a list of best OSU running backs. Redd was a great talent, but Jimmy Jackson was the face of OSU basketball for nearly a decade (or until Oden/Conley/Cook arrived).

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NOW Buckeye's picture

UCLA's squad is disgusting. Kareem, walton, Reggie miller, AND Westbrook running point? Inside outside game and pick and roll would be unstoppable.

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oldcinci's picture

Indiana's and Michigan State's teams are pretty good too.

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JDbucknut's picture

Gayle Goodrich should have been on that team.

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OnlyOne's picture

Sorry, don't think Westbrook even makes first team of UCLA greats, definitely not at point.  He would not fit into a Wooden scheme.

Think about this, in Kareem's day freshmen were not allowed to play.  His freshmen team did, however, play the varsity - National Champs.  Yes, you guess it, the freshmen won.

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OnlyOne's picture

Sorry, don't think Westbrook even makes first team of UCLA greats, definitely not at point.  He would not fit into a Wooden scheme.

Think about this, in Kareem's day freshmen were not allowed to play.  His freshmen team did, however, play the varsity - National Champs.  Yes, you guessed it, the freshmen won.

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JDbucknut's picture

My cousin played on that team. 

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JDbucknut's picture

Lew Alcindor called him " the Great White hope" in an SI article. Then went on to say that Dick turned him on to Jimi Hendrix, so he and Lucious made him an honorary brother.

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SpielmanForPres's picture

I have a problem including anyone who was only here one year, but that's just me. They are all OSU greats.  Burson, Jackson, Hopson, Havlicek, Lucas.

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Keith Byars is the man's picture

I don't disagree with you on the 1 and done even though I put Conley in there. I could replace him easily but not with Jay Burson ( played in same league against Jay in high school and loved playing against him and watching him at OSU, he got his career high against us). I would go with Ransey at point if I was to replace Conley. 

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ScarletGray43157's picture

Burson played no defense.  In high school or college.  He could score though.

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buckzilla1's picture

Lucas, Herb Williams, Havlicek, Jimmy Jackson and Scoonie Penn or Wes Fesler at the point. You need someone who can rebound, play D and give the other 4 the rock. OLD SCHOOL y'all.

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lamplighter's picture

All time 5 -Jackson, Oden, Kellogg, Kelvin Ransey, & Lucas.

Bench - Sully, Hondo, Dave Sorenson, Brad Sellers and Jim Cleamons

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Hockey Buck's picture

OSU's National Championship team would be the greatest team of all time if they could have had one hold against UC in their first finals loss. Still should be, but the one title and two losses to the same team, tempers it.

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d5k's picture

In terms of best college players, Turner and Jackson had higher peaks than Redd despite his great play.  I have no frame of reference on comparing Havlicek and Lucas to others but often the NBA careers spoil the comparisons.

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fansince77's picture

While I love Mike Conley and Oden, as they were both awesome and represented tOSU wonderfully in their one year there, seems to diminish some other players.  Herb Williams gets no love, 4 years, all B10 I don't know how many times, Scoonie Penn at point, what about Kelvin Ransey, Aaron Craft, at point guard? Conley and Oden were both awesome I agree, but this seems a bit of an injustice to some far more deserving guys who were there way longer.

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d5k's picture

And D'Angelo is arguably outshining Conley's 1 and done season on a far worse team.

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OSUhunter's picture

Dennis hopson needs some more love. All-time leading scorer at OSU.Lucas has to be on this team and is the team captain.

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fansince77's picture

Clark Kellogg, Tony Campbell, the list goes on and on, Hop especially.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Funderburke? To his credit he was on par with Perry Carter and Treg Lee who preceded him and he was really good in 1991-92 during the Elite 8 run but the best forward ever in OSU hoops history? I'm not seeing it, sorry.

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2morrow's picture

Can't be an OSU team without Lucas!

C - Oden

F - Lucas

F - Sullinger

G - Conley

G - Havilcek

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1121SteveHall's picture

Ransey, Jackson, Buford, Hopson...Loving???

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Art Harrell's picture

No # 11-Jerry Lucas-No O.S.U. Team--

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fatheadbuckeye's picture

While i like Oden, my favorite center that i have been able to watch as a Buckeyes fan was Ken Johnson.

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BrutusMaximus's picture

What? No mention on Chris Jent? We need a shooting coach, no?

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

I'd take Jackson, Hopson, or Turner over Conley based on college production (if, for nothing else, that Conley only played one year).

Duke's and NC's  second teams would be amazing. Fun read.

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Scooniepenn91's picture

R we taking the best 5 regardless of position? R we giving more or less credit based on leaving early or staying 3-4 years??

if it is by position:

the 1 (point):  Conley, Scoonie, Burson, Stokes, Turner, Robin Freeman (1? Or 2?), Jamar Butler...

the 2 or 3: Jim Jackson, Havlicek, Diebler, Hopson, Ransey (a1 or a 2?), Redd, Siegfried 

4 or 5: Oden, Lucas, Sullinger, Williams (Herb...not Amir), Bradd, Hoskett, Campbell, Kellogg, Sellers, Funderburk?

these are several options...I'm probably forgetting several, too

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Scooniepenn91's picture

I'm taking:

1-Conley- scored enough with few shots, sooo fast handling the ball, pass first pg, he is my guy at the 1

2 &/or 3 &/or 4-(depending on a teams needs or strengths, I'd be willing to move the 2,3,4 around a bit...like if my 5 is a rebounding machine and doesn't need help from the 4, your 4 could be smaller). Anyway, I think it is hard to choose between Jim Jackson, Hopson, Havlicek, Redd, Sullinger, Lucas (and even Diebler...based on pure shooting).  To me, this is the hardest group...not necessarily for 2 of them (Jackson and Lucas...who I believe are the two best basketball Bucks of all time), but the other...I want to take Hopson, but I'm gonna go with Havlicek.

5- on potential other than injury, I'd take Oden...legit 7 foot +, athletic, etc.

Conley, Havlicek, Jackson, Lucas, Oden

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

Wait, we forgot D'Angelo Russell!

All kidding aside, the kid has been fun to watch this season.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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MDBuckeye2002's picture

Oden in his one season in the Buckeye S&G was the most dominant big man I've ever seen.  I have to put him in as my All-Buckeye starting center.

C - Oden

F - Lucas

F - Havlicek

G - Jackson

G - Ransey

Bench:  Conley, Redd, Turner, Hopson, Kellogg

"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."

Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987

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Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Had the pleasure of watching Jimmy Jackson, Dennis Hopson, and Clark K play live many times...IMHO, they need to be in the conversation, if not on the starting 5!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

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Arizona_Buckeye's picture

DOH - thanks, fixed it!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

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NewPhilaFan's picture

Unless I missed it, I see that no one mentioned Larry Siegfried.  He was the captain of the 1960-61 team which also contained Lucas and Havlicek.  He was the third player picked in the 1961 draft and later won 5 titles with the Celtics.  He was an unbelievable shooting guard but not as well known as several of his teammates.

Let's Go Bucks

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ibuck's picture

Lotta great hoops and players at OSU, and a couple great head coaches. And the current team is pretty good, with at least one player who deserves to be in this conversation. Yet too many empty seats at the Schott. And not enough vocal support.

Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !

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osuguy2008's picture

Give me Scoonie instead of Conley

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WhySoSerious's picture

Pg Russell 

Sg Jackson 

Sf Hondo 

Pf Oden 

C Lucas

Rare&Uncommon

Like the ball in the stands, we balls out

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Shouldn't the ALL-TIME leading scorer in Ohio State history be on the first team??? Dennis Hopson.

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BigTom's picture

Id take scoonie penn's senior year over mike conley freshman year and sullinger or kellogg over funderburke.

after some time passes, likely russel could make this team at pg.

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Buck95's picture

I said it before, and I will say it again, because nobody seems to have listened the first time.  Robin Freeman needs to be on the list somewhere.

I keep hearing "Dennis Hopson - all time leading scorer", and I think Hop was great.  The problem is that nobody on here is probably old enough to remember Freeman, who played pre-Lucas.  Seems that for most people here, OSU basketball started with the super soph team of Lucas and Hondo.

Freeman played from 1953-56.  Without the benefit of freshman eligibility, postseason play, the 3 point line that Hopson (and many others) had and without the expanded schedule, Freeman still ranks 12th on the OSU scoring list with 1597 points , despite playing only 57 games (he was injured for part of his junior season).  Everyone ahead of him on the list played at minimum 20 more games than him, and Hopson played twice as many games.

Freeman was a two time all american and has the two highest per game scoring averages in school history (31.5 and 32.9 ppg).  He HAS to be on the list somewhere.

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LealmanBuckeye's picture

I've always had a soft spot for Jay Burson. That dude could flat-out play. He's on that team, even if it is a reserve role.

I aim to misbehave.

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OSUandUofMGrad's picture

Give me Jay Burson, Dennis Hopson, Jim Jackson, Clark Kellogg, and Jerry Lucas and my 5 beats the crap out of the nonsensical 5 first presented 9 out of 10 times. 

Good lord, the original effort was bad - Any 5 that doesn't have J.J. and Jerry Lucas was made by someone severely lacking in OSU Hoops knowledge.  Lawrence Funderburke, for god's sake...

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DLaw61's picture

How Jerry Lucas is not on that team is baffling, totally baffling.  It goes to show just how worthless these 'all time greatest' teams are when the guy who writes the article doesn't include the BEST Ohio State basketball player of all time, hands down. Seriously a guy who played when freshmen were ineligible and won B1G Player of the Year all THREE years he was eligible to play!!!  He is the ONLY three time POY in B1G history and if he was elgible to play four years he would've won it four times.  The ONLY player in NCAA history to have a 30-30 game in a NCAA tournament game and he did it 50 years ago!  The first player to win a high school, NCAA, Olympic Gold Medal, and NBA title. Lead OSU to three consecutive NCAA tournament finals and the only Ohio State NCAA championship.  Named by Sports Illustrated to the All-Century team in 2000. Named one of the best 50 players in NBA history at the end of the century.  And the most impressive IMO is that his jersey is the first jersey/number retired in Ohio State history, for ANY sport. Yes his basketball jersey was retired before Hopalong Cassidys, before Chic Harley, before Jesse Owens, before Jack Nicklaus.  Argueably the greatest Buckeye of all time in any sport but not good enough to beat out one and done Greg Oden or Lawrence Funderburke?  He had to 'modify' it after Buckeye fans who aren't 20 years old got on his ass about what a monumental eff up leaving Lucas off originally was.  It goes to show just how meaningless those kind of articles are

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johnblairgobucks's picture

Always fun to think about these things.

PG- Evan Turner

SG- Dennis Hopson

SF- Jim Jackson

PF- Jerry Lucas

C- Greg Oden

7 guys left for the beech- Clark Kellogg, John Havlicek, Deangelo Russell, Mike Connely, herb Williams, Mike Redd, *****Perry Carter*****(was one of my first favorites as a youngster watching the basketBucks

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