EVEN BETTER Deflate-gate Analysis

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mh277907's picture

Which is more annoying? Deflategate or defenders of Deflategate?

buckeyebobcat

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11UrbzAndSpices's picture

Capitalizing on the popularity of this gif right now.....

If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special.

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Buckeye Knight's picture

Too long and don't care about Tom Brady's balls.

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Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Where's the Saban version?

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Get well soon Mrs.Naut 6-0 > 3-6.

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Buckeye Knight's picture

Here, but it's very outdated.  He lost to Oklahoma last bowl season and obviously to us this year.  No crystal ball for him.  If I knew how to make gifs, Urban as the Hamburglar stealing Saban's ball in this gif would be great.

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

I think that is the Saban version (from Spring Break).

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toad1204's picture
Cant wait until after the super bowl for this thing to die.

The offseason is the longest season.

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Doc's picture

I like to see the articles advertised below the main articles here on 11W.  The last few days there has been a picture of Tommy with the title of "14 of the biggest cheaters in sports."  Pure Michigan.

“Ain’t life grand when you finally hit it!”  DLR

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Hovenaut's picture

Hindsight is, and in, 2020

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

Nice one Hov, and very appropriate.

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JACKTATUMSFOREARM's picture

Cheaters Cheaters pumpkin eaters!

 

Nothing cleanses the soul like getting the hell kicked out of you - Woody Hayes

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

You have a dog in this fight M Man? Maybe just a little bit?

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M Man's picture

Now that you guys seem to want it to be an anti-Michigan/Brady story; yeah, I think I'm going to pick a side.

I thought it was interesting, no matter what.  For all of the guys typing "Yawn, etc." ...  Do you excitement masters spend Sundays watching the Browns and the Bengals?

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NW Buckeye's picture

Nope, I watch the Seahawks.  And I will be cheering for them against the Pats.  Still think deflategate is much ado about next to nothing.  Yawn..........

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Hovenaut's picture

Does watching either revoke the status in being an excitement master?

(Redskins fan here...it's a circus of the stupid in this area).

It's all good MMan - if I may say, I think your contributions are welcome here.

Hindsight is, and in, 2020

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

I just can't pick a side in the Super Bowl. There's something about Brady that bothers me (can't for the life of me figure out what), and my USC hate is legendary (to myself for personal reasons), so Pete Carroll can do no right in my eyes.

Having said that, although Belichick's reputation has taken some hits for cheating, and I hate how he handled his time in Cleveland, he is one hell of a coach who has found some innovative ways to always stay one step ahead of the NFL crowd relative to roster management, Offensive and Defensive schemes and the like. He is often copied, and by then he moves on to the next thing. No wonder Meyer spends time learning from him, because he has genius. 

As for Carroll, I understand he has brought in a former surfer who is now a sports psychologist of sorts whose sole job is to work on the relationships the players have with each other and amongst the coaches. The whole idea is to get coaches and players to understand and communicate more effectively with each other, especially in stressful situations, like when you defense is getting hammered on third down. This to me is brilliance again, something that Meyer might also look into, although the 2014 Buckeyes seemed pretty tight knit, had clearly bought in to the program, and seemed to be communicating pretty effectively.

Here's the links from today's WSJ about these two points. Quick reads and pretty interesting:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-dueling-legacies-of-bill-belichick-1422403614

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-shrink-on-the-seattle-seahawks-sideline-1422402204

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Hovenaut's picture

I feel the same...don't care for either franchise.

Expecting a competitive, entertaining game, but I'm so glad OSU won the NC...as a matter fact Ohio State has helped me through many a miserable Sunday/NFL season.

Hindsight is, and in, 2020

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M Man's picture

Since this is my OP, I declare you the winner.  Well played.

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Fatpants's picture

We've got Brady and Belichick on one side, Carroll and Sherman on the other.

I guess I'll go with household chores that day.

PG <3 PG

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mh277907's picture

Do you excitement masters spend Sundays watching the Browns and the Bengals?

Is that any worse than watching Michigan on Saturdays?

buckeyebobcat

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jenks's picture

I watch both actually (being a Bengals fan in Cleveland), and I will tell you that the Browns are the most entertaining team to watch (and follow, especially talk radio) in the NFL.  They manage to get themselves into and out of situations you couldn't even dream of.

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Citrus's picture

I am not the biggest Brady or Patriot fan but this whole thing is over-inflated. A little PSI? C'mon.

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tommrkr's picture

As far as I'm concerned, football season ended Jan 12 (or early Jan 13, rather.)

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CharlieBuckeye's picture

TOMMRKR - I will not and cannot let it end....just can't do it... Have the BIG and National Championship Games on DVR in "Keep Forever Mode". I have now watched the NCG at least 6 times and have the 3 hour video extension to re-watch the interviews and pundits after the game.

Please don't tell me it's over... I don't think my psyche could take it!

On to next year and GO BUCKEYES!!!!!

"To have a great life simply follow this rule:  Do not bring undo conflict into your life..."

Charlie Baker - OSU - 1986

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BUCK-I-FAN's picture

lol me too CharlieBuckeye. I have re-watched the MSU, Meatchicken, Whiskey, Bama, and Oregon games multiple times since Jan 13. the greatest thing about re-watching them is i can fast forward the other teams possessions. 

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unknownmusketeer's picture

Until the NFL announces - like college football - that the head coach is responsible for all actions of the other coaches, players, and staff, this will not matter. Fine Bill Belichick $10M. It won't matter to him. Kraft will just increase his salary.

The NFL has repeatedly shown that:

$ > Morals

Would Commissioner Goodell even think twice if advertisers didn't object? Advertisers are loving the extra attention. More eyeballs for their products.

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Boxley's picture

My head is stilllllll hurting form the data on the link you provided, but it still seems to support that............ they (Patriots)cheated and have been for some time, they just now got caught at it.

Not that anything is going to happen to them about it.

"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done." President T. Roosevelt

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CharlieBuckeye's picture

That is a gif that keeps on giffing - Always due an UV

"To have a great life simply follow this rule:  Do not bring undo conflict into your life..."

Charlie Baker - OSU - 1986

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Buckeyejohn's picture

Deflate-gate just makes you wonder what else the Patriots are doing to cut corners. The Patriots have outwitted most of the NFL for the past 15 years and I think we might only know a fraction of the questionable things they do. I don't think there is necessarily one major infraction that would shock the football world, but probably at least a dozen or so smaller things like deflate-gate. If there is any way a team can have an advantage on the gridiron, the Patriots organization has looked into practicing it. I don't think the Patriots have outright cheated to get where they are, but the organization is extremely clever with regard to finding hidden advantages. I'm not sure whether they should be discounted for this or praised for staying one step ahead of the competition at every turn. Tom Brady went to Michigan so I'm going to say discounted out of pure hate. Hopefully Richard Sherman deflates both of Brady's balls on Sunday. 

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Squirrel Master's picture

but its funny because saying the patriots are getting away with stuff insinuates that other teams (cough, cough..New Orleans, Seattle) don't. I highly doubt the Patriots are the only team cutting corners every chance they get. All teams try to outwit the NFL. Patriots just seem to get caught when they do it.

heck, the Steelers and Jets actively try to interfere with players on the sideline during plays.

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

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Run_Fido_Run's picture

Good find, M Man. Anything that debunks the stupid hysteria surrounding this bogus DeflateGate is alright in my book. It's been so bad this last week and a half that I've found myself listening to Paul Finebaum on satellite radio and feeling a sense of relief. When I'm escaping to Finebaum to get away from media stupidity, you know that the media hacks have really jumped the shark.

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

Finebaum actually trolls Bama as much as anyone else - at least he has seemed to this year. He's got plenty of material with Phyllis, Tammy, and the rest of the hootennannies calling in.

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Run_Fido_Run's picture

Another reason I've found myself flipping the dial to the Finebaum show is that they talk mostly about college football even after the season ended, whereas my regular favorite show - Mark Packer - goes to 100 percent college basketball talk the day after football season ends. I'd prefer that Finebaum reduce the call-ins from crazy SEC fans by about 90 percent, but at this time of the year, beggars can't be choosers. 

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

I like Packer a lot as well. He was pretty supportive of the Buckeyes as worthy of the playoff spot, and of course his side-kick, the one Eddie George!

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BrowardBuckeye's picture

The insecurity around all things TTUN is strong...

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M Man's picture

I love Deflate-gate not because I think it means anything, or because I am trying to prove anything.  I just like hearing people who know more than I do about statistics have a good argument.  Honestly, when I read the original Warren Sharp story, I was thinking about punching holes in it.  It was too good as a polemic.  The two Stats profs who wrote the Deadspin piece are very clever writers.  Good all around.  I got more enjoyment from both reads, than any NFL gameday.  So they are playing another football game?  Sunday?  Huh.

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John Cooper&#039;s lucky pig's picture

Good post, M Man, but I cannot let this attack on my thread pass without a response.

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M Man's picture

You've thrown down the gauntlet!

There was one thing about the Warren Sharp analysis that I found curious; it didn't succeed in taking the heat off Brady.  If the notion was that it was all an elaborate, stat-driven enterprise about "offensive plays per fumbles lost" you'd think that it would be a Belichick/Franchise problem.  But personalizing it as to Brady seems to be an irresistible storyline for the media.

Not that this would have anything to do with it:

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Buckeye Knight's picture

Oh oh!  You done did it now boy!  You got M Man fired up!

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RedStorm45's picture

We do all realize the original "GATE" was Watergate, and that had nothing to with water...right? RIGHT??

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John Cooper&#039;s lucky pig's picture

Riiiiiight. Next thing you'll tell us is that Deep Throat was an informant and not a movie. Whatever gets you to sleep at night, RedStorm.

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OSUpawn's picture

I thought "Deep Throat" was a verb......

I believe the SEC players put their pants on one leg at a time like we do.

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