Five Things: Buckeyes Need Double Overtime to Escape Happy Valley

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c92996p's picture

Not very confident.  But I still have faith in Urban to use this performance as a stepping stone to better performances later on.

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KD_Bucks11's picture

At this point, I don't care if we do or don't make the playoff. Obviously, it would be great, but I just want to win the Big Ten, and then if we don't make the playoff beat someone in a bowl and gain confidence for next year.

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niblick's picture

If our oline doesnt improve A LOT, msu's dline is gonna face fuck us for 60 minutes and it aint gonna be pretty. Our oline flat out sucks.

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HYDEYOKIDS's picture

Eh it doesn't suck anymore. PSU has a decent D line and while the pass protection is not great they did open holes for Zeke. That didn't happen during the V tech game. Also there were definitely occasions where JT held on to the ball for too long. PSU's Defense started creeping up and playing closer and closer to the line as the game went on and we largely abandoned the pass game which would keep them honest. O line isn't great but I don't think they can be flat out abused anymore.

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TresselourgodUrbanoursavior's picture

I sort of agree?  The o-line is not very good, and people need to take off their scarlet colored glasses. I think it does not help that we don't the playbook open, though. Or throw quick passes. Or something. When we get timid like that, it just becomes a ruthless cycle. The coaches said they "had to trim the playbook," but how many times has that brilliant strategy actually worked.

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SlumLord6973's picture

See I don't think it is scarlet covered glasses. They rushed for over 200 yards. Elliot got over 100 of it. That isn't a perspective. Those are cold hard facts. Bad lines don't open holes like that. PSU was the top rushing defense in the big ten and they ran on it. I do not agree that the line was the problem. The issue I saw was being too predictable on first down which caused the team to get behind schedule. Then Barrett threw a couple pics which of course lead to the staff constricting the playbook further till it looked like the Jim Bollman show. Why did that happen? Was there a good reason for it? I don't know. Maybe Barrett hurt his shoulder but 12/19 for 74 yards total passing on the night is just completely unacceptable. Maybe they clammed up because the defense was playing so well. I don't know. But 74 total yards passing on the night? I believe sack yardage subtracts from the passing total? Or is it rushing? Can't believe I don't remember that. Hate getting old. Barret held the ball too long on a couple sacks. He was playing scared after throwing those pics. His confidence was gone. I could clearly see he was unable to pull the trigger.

Trimming the playbook made it easier to stop the offense because PSU had the entire team waiting for the handoff on first down. 

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osubuckeye134's picture

I don't remember being behind schedule a lot - except in the 4th when we played "not to lose".  I remember probably four 3rd and 1's that we couldn't convert for the life of us.  

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

SlumLord, I agree with you.  I think Hermann called a predictable game, and the PSU defense solved it in the 2nd half.  Our vertical passing game was non-existent, we threw one pass over 15 yards downfield all night??  We let PSU creep 8-9 men in the box and we failed to stretch the defense early.  We also failed to hit quick slants in the 2nd half when PSU started crowding the LOS and sent the run-blitz.

I hope Hermann learns from this and uses more surprises against MSU early.  It looked to me like Meyer and Hermann were determined to run the ball against PSU to establish the ground game.  Well, they did it, but they forgot to keep the defense honest.  Please-please-please do not make this mistake in East Lansing.

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southbay's picture

It seemed to me that there was less rotating of  personnel on defense against Penn State, so the starters had to play a lot more.  I was very concerned about fatigue, but I don't think it turned out to be a big factor.  Didn't see much of Raekwon, anyone else?

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Rjpfish2's picture

I saw Tyquan Lewis get some reps in the 2nd half around the time Schutt came in.  Don't recall seeing Jayln Holmes on the field at all... I thought Chris Carter Jr. would be able to eat up some space in the middle and spell Bennett/Washington, but he hasn't played much if any meaningful snaps.

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MrWiley7's picture

You're correct. There was not much rotating. The backups that I saw were Lewis, Schutt, Raekwon, and I thought I saw Worley for a few snaps. None of them played a bunch but Raekwon got more snaps than the other ones. Grant played pretty good though and they probably trusted their vets more in a game like that one. 

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Knarcisi's picture

My quick 5:

1) D is continuing to improve and instilling more confidence every week.

2) Reality that JT still has a long way to go. 

3) Still, a positive builder for JT that he put the team on his back and pulled through when hurt and facing adversity. 

4) Gut check time for Meyer and Herman with offensive scheme and play calling. 

5) We should cease all playoff discussion and worry about one game at a time. 

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braneli's picture

Hear, hear!

"You are confined only by the walls you build yourself."

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Earthoid.'s picture

really? a freshman with 7 games experience has a long way to go?

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Knarcisi's picture

Yes.  Really. He was getting Heisman talk already. He's back to reality and has a long way to go. His decision making wasn't so great vs a defense with a pulse. 

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Earthoid.'s picture

forgot my sarcasm font.

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

Yeah, I think after Saturday we can forget all the Heisman talk.  Let's worry about winning the next game.

What's round on the ends and high in the middle? Tell me if you know!

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Toilrt Paper's picture

5) Gut check is worthless without better O-line play and, better QB play.

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Findog5's picture

Point 4 is a big issue. 

The more you act like a lady the more likely he’ll act like a gentleman. 

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brylee's picture

here we go...fire Hermann and Meyer!!!!

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Vberger's picture

Sorry but Herman must only have confidence when we play the cup cakes because any d with a pulse causes him to go into the same old conservative shell.

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Without being conservative Ohio State loses by 2 TDs. How many more sacks do you want? How many more INT's do you want?

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chitown buckeye's picture

There are a lot of quick high percentage throws and other plays to call to attack the edge and take some heat off the pass rush. So if the O-line is looking vulnerable we just turtle-up and hope for the best? That's what Herman does. Where are the jet sweeps, swing passes, roll outs, etc.. Any defense has a weakness it's up to our coaches to find it and help exploit it. Whenever we have gotten punched in the mouth offensively, we dumb down the offense to Runs or QB draws, instead of making in game adjustments. JT was used like a full back in the first half (for whatever reason) then gets hurt and then the injury causes us to put just about every offensive player as the wildcat. It should have never come to that had the gameplan loosened up the D from the get go like we have done every other game. Except big games in prime time.

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johnny11's picture

We ran 2-3 screens that got blown up for no gain or minimal yardage. The two picks came off of a slant and short dig route. All of his completions were hit percentage short yardage throws that weren't working. He was missing on his deep balls too. JT was having a bad game. Just face it we had a bad game overall stemming from multiple different things. Play calling was the most minimal problem we had Saturday night. 

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BrutusB's picture

Hard to blame him. We threw deep about four times- one was picked, one was almost picked. Barrett looks awesome when the defenses are terrible, but Herman gets to watch him against our defense every week. It's likely that he knows which throws he can't make at this point. 

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What Would Troy Smith Do's picture

I already hated the fact that MSU got a bye before us, but now I'm really worried.  If our offensive line can't stop Calhoun and Co. we are in trouble.  MSU's offense can play too.  I'm totally expecting to see us come out and run, run, run against MSU.  Yes, our O-line struggled, but shittier teams have played the same Oline yet put passing yards up against PSU.  We had some success running, which should loosen up the D so why the hell, can't we.  I honestly believe it is because of the play calling.

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Rjpfish2's picture

Cameron Johnston is a stud! I bet The Vest daydreams about coaching #95 while contemplating backgammon moves.

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Bamabucknut's picture

We play like last night at Michigan State we won't win the BIG 10.....again.

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jbirmmd's picture

"I still have no idea what the Buckeyes were trying to accomplish on the last possession of the 1st half. "

EXACTLY!  This irked me to no end.  Those plays and the pathetic attempts on 3rd and short around mid field are totally on the coaches.  If we make something of those three drives the game is over at halftime and our discussion is very different today. 

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BrutusB's picture

Could be worse- we could have spiked it when the clock was stopped. 

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

I know there's a lot of criticism of the playcalling, not enough downfield passing in particular, but considering interceptions led directly and indirectly to the first 10 points Penn State scored, it's hard to blame the staff for trying to button it up. I was saying in the third quarter that the Buckeyes had to try to stay out of obvious passing downs, because the protection wasn't there. So they finally throw on first down, and the ball gets picked. 

I do think, however, that a run-based attack could still have a little more variation. In particular, why didn't the almost totally rested Samuel (he had a catch) and Smith not get any carries?

If I were a Penn State fan (shudders), I'd wonder how the hell our punting situation could be this bad. Nessler and Blackledge kept harping on our field position advantage like it was somehow unfair, but there's nothing unfair about caring enough to recruit a decent punter.

The multiple ways we let the Nits stick around -- the pick six, the missed FG, the roughing penalties -- were very frustrating. Having said that, it will hopefully make us stronger for two weeks down the road. 

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INTLBUCK's picture

Certainly a lot of credit to Meyer and Co. for reaching all the way to Australia when we lost that stud punter recruit...

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MountainsAwait's picture

I'm very curious what exactly Urban was referring to when, at the end of the game, he said something like "there were some things going on that caused us not to be able to pass the ball downfield"??

Frustrating, because at halftime he said they needed to be less conservative...

Not sure where the disconnect is...true issues going on or play calling?  Both?

"Thousands of tired, nerve-shaken, over-civilized people are beginning to find out that going to the mountains is going home; that wilderness is a necessity..." -John Muir

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BrutusB's picture

He might have been referring to Barretts knee? I don't know. 

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BuckeyesALLDAY1's picture

This playcalling is horrible..JT has 20carries and a sprained knee by the end of the season his body will be beat up..All these backs EZe,Samuel (no carries SMH) Rod smith,Dontre,Jalin but our QB takes all the carries that's not a good recipe.

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johnny11's picture

Yah a lot of those carries were not on designed qb runs. They were on broken down plays or where JT may the correct/bad read on a zone a read play. 20 Carries was not by design last night with JT. 

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BrutusB's picture

They were trying to spare Barrett but the line couldn't hold up and he had to scramble. The only time they were calling designed runs were do or die time in overtime (no coincidence that the offense suddenly looked awesome)

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nickel beer's picture

I thought before the game, psu's defense was very good.  When your offense (o-line, in particular) is ... poor, there will of course be s-o-o much more stress on the team's defense.  I think that has to be taken into consideration when assessing psu's defense on the season so far (even before last night), so that's where I'm thinking that psu's defense is pretty darmn good--especially in comparison to msu's defense. 

Perhaps doubtful that psu's defense could pull off such a performance in Ohio Stadium, but still they're very good.  Likely our (the fans') expectations for domination would've been satisfied in Columbus. Anyway, for the players, last night was an excellent game to have played and come away from with a win.  For the Buckeyes as a team, the play-calling under certain stress again appears to be a weakness and exhibit certain unfavorable tendencies.  But, that for me is a criticism I keep separate from how I feel about the game last night and the players' performance overall.  Last night was no vatech performance. 

My confidence in the Buckeyes, including the Buckeye offense, is directly proportional to msu's self-confidence.  The better they feel about themselves, the better all of the Buckeyes will be playing (and play-calling) in EL ... when that particular game comes around. 

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AZVO's picture

4) Gut check time for Meyer and Herman with offensive scheme and play calling.

Couldn't agree more.  Not sure why they put JT at such risk - other than the fact that when given an opening he runs pretty well - but can we risk losing him?    If he is the distributor then where are the simple open routes for him to throw to?    Play calling seems to be at an all time low given the level of talent (good and mediocre) that we have to play with.     

I predicted PSU would have a stout D, but there were obvious openings that the press box could not see?  And adjustments after the half break?  Ummmmmmmm - where?  

But then again this is all my wife's fault.  For both the VaT game and PSU she scheduled some events that I could not avoid - I had to shave before going....     I never shave on Football Saturdays - the jinx was in....  sorry guys.  Blame my wife.  Perhaps easier than evaluating the O play calling.  Thank goodness I had my apple at half time so the D held up mostly well.  Close shave.

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bucknut3011's picture

Is your calendar cleared for Nov 8? Suggest you set the expectations early with the Mrs. :D

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ohiobobg's picture

Dammit woman!!!

Though - it was probably my wife's fault, She had the Bama game on TV and I was relegated to streaming radio.

We need to do something about these wenches!!!!!

"you can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning"

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36buck's picture

hard to fault the line when psu has 9 in the box and all 11 within 10 yds and we do nothing but run up the middle then get in predictable 3d and long.

no intermediate passing game AGAIN???? Where are the slants etc and quick throws to the TEs???

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mb5599's picture

You're right.  MSU is going to stack the box and put their corners one on one with our outside recievers.  JT has to prove the can push the ball vertical.  Devin Smith has pretty much disappeared along with any deep pass plays. If I was Narduzzi thats what I would do.

Big B

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youngbuck32's picture

Are we incapable of running anything but qb draw up the middle when we go five wide? Do they think Barrett incapable of making single coverage reads? Seems like that's a slap in the face to Barrett.

Can't is the real "C" word!

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SnooBucki's picture

I don't know about anyone else but I don't know how I'm going to watch the Michigan State game. I have about 0% confidence in our ability to win a big game against good competition. I can't handle hearing the Buckeye haters run their chops.

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Geraffi's picture

I was at the game last night. The environment was insanely loud and raucous and the wind was absolutely whipping. When J.T. threw the pick six, PSU had renewed hope and the stadium was even louder. That play call should have been run all the way.

I commented to my buddy that on every third down, there was music blaring, or this repeating lion's roar that had to make it difficult for our offense to call plays. I haven't noticed that at other stadiums before. 

The wind had to be a huge factor. It looked liked every pass, put, or kick just floated and changed direction. The second pick was as ugly as the first.  It looked like J.T. Had a receiver over the top. Not sure if the wind played a factor or not. 

I think the play calling was so so. Running was our best option. I hoped for more quick hitters, screens and slants, but credit to the PSU D, they were aggressive and a good test of what we're about to see in East Lansing. 

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Geraffi's picture

I should clarify. The music and lions roar were playing loudly even through the audible and snap count   It continued until after the play started. I was somewhat close to the speaker, but have never heard anything louder. 

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Damonbuckeye's picture

After last nights piss poor play-calling there is absolutely no way in hell the bucks are winning in EL on November 8th... The same thing Urbs did with Withers last year needs to be done with Mensa after this season...

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Scarlet Veins's picture

I'm reading a lot of comments that display a major lack of confidence for the Bucks at MSU in 2 weeks. Although I understand some of the critiques and actually agree with a few, I don't think this translates into a bad showing in East Lansing. It wasn't a pretty game but sometimes a rugged dog fight is exactly what's needed to toughen up for better competition. The #1 thing to be successful in life, sports, relationships, you name it, is learning how to work through adversity. I saw that with this young talented team last night. They got the win with their backs against the wall...that's mental toughness and never tapping out. Proud to be a Buckeye fan today.

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Jim Tressel

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Zimmy07's picture

Michigan St has their own issues to deal with this year.

Purdue had the ball trailing by 7 with 3 min's left against Sparty.

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gunni070's picture

And Northwestern beat Penn State's ass in their own place.  Hard to compare anything this year.

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NuttyBuckeye's picture

Scarlet Veins, I certainly agree with you.  As much as I wanted to see our guys beat the piss out of Franklin's boys, it didn't happen.  Winning a tough slug-fest builds character, and this young team can use it.

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Osusam77's picture

Reposted. Let's face it. OSU is a good team but not playoff level. The O play calling was extremely conservative. In the first half, the D was controlling so it made sense to take what they could. The second half was just conservative. There was no creativity in the play calling . Nothing to put PSU on their heals. I don't thiink there was a single long pass to soften the D backs all night. The PSU backs were playing tight and the receivers were not getting open. I don't think Herman is a bad coach but there is a pattern here. In tough games we get ultra conservative which just feeds to the opposing D. Finally, disappointing night for both the wide outs and the O line. I thought they were better.

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Vberger's picture

Can someone, anyone please get on the coaches call in show on 97.1 and ask urban why in the hell do we not have the ability to line up under center on 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1.  Why do we need to be in the gun on those downs.  

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illich's picture

Hermann is a poor OC....cannot adjust to the defenses. PSU like Va Tech adjusted at halftime and Hermann was lost....I believe JT could call his own plays and make the necessary adjustments.

Why do the coaches rely on JT to carry the offensive run load as they did with Braxton?? Result Braxton shoulder injury, now JT with a gimpy leg!    Poor use of offensive run potential,ie: Marshall, Dontre,

Carl T.

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kalabuckzoo's picture

Dontre looked good last night with the ball in his hands (including ko returns), and samuel only had one touch if I remember correctly.  Don't get it.  Give these guys a chance.  Samuel hasn't been given anything since he fumbled vs. cinci.  A damn shame if you ask me, guy is electric and does nothing but gain yards.

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TheBadOwl's picture

I believe JT could call his own plays and make the necessary adjustments.

Except it was too loud for him to make the necessary checks and reads pre-snap last night. Couldn't move blockers around at all. That's why Herman had to call such a vanilla game.

Plus JT missed two wide open deep balls (poorly underthrown) and threw two absolutely terrible interceptions.

Yeah, it would've been nice if we had some more offensive creativity, but JT was not good last night and Herman was absolutely right to take the ball out of his hands and avoid more killer turnovers.

That kind of environment with a rattled freshman quarterback against a good front 7 = not the time or place to do creative playcalls. That's when you just hope that your guys can execute up front.

People here are too hard on Tom Herman. If he'd opened up the playbook and JT threw another INT or got sacked again (which would've happened a lot), people would have screamed that he got too cute with the playcalls.

Why do the coaches rely on JT to carry the offensive run load as they did with Braxton?? Result Braxton shoulder injury, now JT with a gimpy leg!    Poor use of offensive run potential,ie: Marshall, Dontre,

Because that's the only way that the offense works when the passing game and the perimeter run game are taken away. Penn State did just that, largely aided by the crowd. JT's inexperience absolutely killed the offense. Again, Herman had no choice but to use a vanilla gameplan. And it's not Herman's fault when our guys can't execute.

I think that it's unfair to expect the same amount of success offensively against Penn State and MSU (and Michigan, later) that we had against Rutgers, Cincy and Maryland, who have bad defenses.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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buckeyepastor's picture

Last night with the false starts we saw why Meyer in previous weeks was mad as hell about false starts in games where we were dominant and there was no crowd noise to worry about.   He was thinking, I'm sure, that if guys aren't keeping focused and playing disciplined under the best of circumstances, it's gonna be worse in Happy Valley - and it was.   Lots of self-inflicted wounds last night.  Roughing the QB calls were pretty questionable, but given how awful some of the other calls were by the officials, hardly worth mentioning.   But too many false starts.   Too many drives where it set us back in down and distance and put us in third and long on series when we should have had third and short.   

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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Born Woody's picture

Overall, it was a win and that's what counts.  Sometimes you grow up the most when you face adversity and overcome it.  JT had a terrible night throwing the football, however he wasn't given plays that allowed him to succeed in that respect.  It was too conservative and when we did go dynamic it was with plays that were almost too quirky.  I really fail to understand why we didn't throw the ball deep to stretch the D, or at least run 3-4 mid deep routes..... we were just too predictable.  I don't think that this game was as much a sign of our team's play as much as it was coaching mistakes.  JT was overused and when we have the weapons on offense we have and don't use them... its just a waste. 

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Earthoid.'s picture

Saying that this proves we have no chance against MSU is ridiculous.  If anything, this gives us even more fuel to take on MSU.  Sparty's defense is nothing like last year and even then we could have and should have beat them.  They are still riding last year's coattails in terms of perception.  The only half decent team they played (oregon) they got lit up.  In fact, I would even go so far as to say that PSU has a comparable, if not even better defense than Sparty.  PSU's D is for real and they've proven that.

As far as our D, another week and another noticeable improvement.  They were flying around killing guys out there, and best of all, they were wrapping up and tackling.  I remember at most 2 missed tackles last night.  And considering how long they were on the field because of offensive struggles, they performed admirably even when giving up td late.  Plus they got screwed on several bad calls that extended PSU drives.  I think that last PSU drive was 20+ plays.

To say we have no chance against Sparty is just stupid and false.

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Daddypete's picture

My thoughts on the game...

#1. I thought Zeke looked like he might have been playing hurt and they have no confidence in Curtis Samuel to hold on to the ball at this time.

#2. One of our running backs has got to display the ability to break that first tackle. We get YAC yards but our backs are brought down by the first defender to hit them.

#3. The defense was much improved but will have to play even smarter and better if we are to have a chance against MSU.

#4. Sorry to say this but it is obviously true: If we do not shore up the pass protection and get a little more creative (trying to be christian here!) in our play calling...MSU is going to treat us like their "little brother." We are going to get pasted in East Lansing if we do not improve.

#5. This team seems to struggle at night...have no idea why!

#6. All that said, as my Dad used to say, 'They don't ask how, they ask how many!"  GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!! We will take the W.

"Stand and Deliver!"

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Toilrt Paper's picture

#7 Ohio State's offensive weakness has been revealed. Defenses can crowd the line of scrimmage and DB's crowd the receivers. They do not fear the long pass, They know Ohio State's passing attack will only be successful throwing 20 yard and shorter passes. Dontre had his defender beat by 5 yards AGAIN. The play called for a 50 yard pass. JT wound up and threw it as hard as he could and it only went 40 yards. Under thrown by 10 yards. AGAIN.

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My buck's picture

In my opinion, when we are having a bad passing day, we need to feed the running backs.  Get them involved!  Where was Samuel?  Where was Rod?  It at least lets us get some consistency going.  There was no "flow" in the way the game was called.  When all else fails, The Ohio State University must be able to run that fricken ball and overpower the competition.  Then, use Marshal & Wilson to hit the edges. Run that ball boys, damn!!!  We've got power, we've got skill... Use it!!!!!

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BeatTTUN's picture

That game was a beauty contest winner
She looked pretty in the early rounds in a conservative outfit.
After surviving the initial cuts she stumbled a bit but was able to survive to the final round which happened to be the swimsuit competition.
In that round when you thought there is no way she could win she strides out and
Knocks you on your ASS

She smiles at the camera and says
"You are Welcome Bitch"

I saw Ryan Day hang 62 on Michigan...His hair was perfect.

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Colorado Johnny's picture

Love the heart and soul of these guys, but there is no chance we hang with MSU as they will blitz all night long. As of now, Herman and Co. have no answer for it. None. Also, Apple made it pretty clear that unless the ball just falls his way, he is suspect at best. Plays the man playing slap hands instead of going for the ball. Was really surprised to see Bennett not getting in there more. JT is a beast though. Cat put the team on his shoulders and took it home. But I hope after this we can all stop drinking the playoff Kool-Aid. I don't think I want to see this team get embarassed. I'll take a Big Ten Championship and a nice bowl win.

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Catfish Biff's picture

So, to throw off Barrett, show him something he hasn't seen. Bear front by VT and dropping linemen back into coverage by PSU. 

I worry how well prepared the offense will be against MSU.

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FROMTHE18's picture

OSU just needs to win. A B1G title is an epic achievement for this team. Screw playoff talk. Right now, I don't see this team staying with Michigan State, especially if HermanBall shows its ugly face. Yet, if they pull things together and have a bit of luck, they can win the B1G. The Heisman is over for JT IMO. Sure, things can fall in place and he can challenge but, no more of that. I really hope the offense stops running him, he should be a luxury not a necessity, we have too many other guys who can carry the ball in more creative ways. The O-line got a piece of humble pie at the right time, better now than in East Lansing. Hope Illinois is another blow out win and we keep people healthy. 

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UpIrons's picture

I do not like how things look against Sparty but we'd best not get ahead of ourselves and forget about Illinois at this point. Wish we had a bye week right now instead. I still can't help but think the play calling was conservative because they don't want to show more than they have to on film to MSU but sheesh, you still have to win the damn games in-between!

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BoFuquel's picture

Did we win? GO BUCKS!

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

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Osusam77's picture

So here is the problem against Sparty. They will put 6 or 7 in the box and blitz often. Our O line does not look like they will be able to control the line and JT will be rushed just like at VT. We better have a plan to deal with this and the receivers will need to get open. We need to make better use of our tight ends in this situation for blocking and passing. The problem we have been seeing is that against this type of pressure, Herman get conservative and the play calling is too predicable. This plays to the D scheme and the we get caught in this spiral. I don't think Herman is a bad coach, but this pattern is a concern and we haven't see anything to convince us that we can adjust. Very concerning. 

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ohiobobg's picture

Something I learned a long time ago: The D will always be more consistent than the O. It showed last night. We'll be fine.

"you can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning"

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Canukbuck's picture

Maybe I've missed it somewhere, but has anyone asked the most important question regarding last night's contest ???  How is JT's knee and how will it impact him for the game against Illinois ??  The last thing we need, going into East Lansing, is a gimpy QB.  Love Cardale Jones, but he's been handling mop up duty only and they won't let him throw down field - not a ringing endorsement if he is asked to take over the controls against Sparty .....

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Balkestud's picture

You guys who are defending the play calling by pointing to the interceptions and defensive pressure are missing the point. When you pass, down and distance and field position are factors that have to be considered. " We threw 2 picks so obviously we shouldn't pass" is incredibly flawed logic. Those early  3rd downs were perfect opportunities for play action rollouts. The point is when they expected us to run, we did. When they expected us to pass, we did. That is why we could not move the ball with any regularity, no imagination.

It gets kind of rough in the back of my limousine,

 

 

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Jcam3588's picture

You are also forgetting are QB had sprained his knee late in the 2nd Quarter, so want his HC & OC to now send him on PA (which alone require time to develop) Roll-Outs with an O-Line that is struggling to provide time? Lets not be couch coaches & let the guys who actually watched game film & studied their opponents do their jobs...

"Because I couldn't go for three."

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Balkestud's picture

except the 3rd downs I referenced were prior to his injury, so not really sure what you are talking about

It gets kind of rough in the back of my limousine,

 

 

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jaxbuckeye's picture

Didn't think I could possibly hate PSU more than I already did but I stand corrected. Their fanbase is the most arrogant, whiny group I've ever seen in my life. They've never had a loss in which they weren't cheated of a victory. Seriously,  I hate them more and more each day. 

With the irrelevance of Michigan, there is no team/fanbase I despise more than PSU. 

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CentralFloridaBuckeye's picture

Great article Chris.  Let's hope this close game helps to galvanize the team going forward!

Go Bucks!!

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koryjay's picture

This is me being superstitious, but it's time to burn the alt white unis. We've worn them twice and almost lost to teams we were favored to roll both times. I personally love them, but let's shelve those things!

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SaudiBuckeye's picture

Exactly, love them all-whites but need to put them in a trunk in the attic! 

And in both games we start the game as if we are going to win easily and wind up having to come up with a big defensive last play of the game. 

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The Rill Dill's picture

Ijust woke up.  I had a dream where it took Urban Meyer and crew double overtime to beat a team with 46 scholarship players, a new coach, and a backup O line?  It was almost the exact dream I had during the Michigan State, Clemson and Virginia Technical games.  

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SaltyD0gg's picture

Two observations:

1. Has there ever been a quieter 18 tackle performance than Perry's on Saturday? I can remember one.

2. The punting disparity was a great as I've ever seen on one field. Johnston was ridiculous (in a great way), while the PSU punt game was just ridiculous.

Pain of Discipline

Pain of Regret

Take Your Pick

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OSU_1992_UFM's picture

I'd be curious to see TOP in first and second half. IMO the defense was out there wayyy too much because of the lack of production from the offense...hard to stop Hackenberg for that long

Spring football is like non-alcoholic beer.  It looks like what you want, but only intensifies your desire for the real thing--Earle

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Chris Lauderback's picture

1st Qtr: OSU 8:27, PSU 6:33

2nd Qtr: OSU 10:08, PSU 4:52

3rd Qtr: OSU 10:22, PSU 4:38

4th Qtr: OSU 5:27, PSU 10:33

OSU_1992_UFM's picture

I'm half right...I'll take it

Spring football is like non-alcoholic beer.  It looks like what you want, but only intensifies your desire for the real thing--Earle

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