Would love to p/u Peppers. He looks like the kinda safety that will knock you the F out!!
was osu looking at him as a safety? he could definitely do either at the next level, but seems more valuable to have a corner that size than safety. i think that's where michigan is recruiting him
I'm going by what it say's under his pic. Who know's these days you just recruit and then plug em' in at both positions or at a multi-tude of positions and see where they do best.
Referring to peppers, I'm just wondering what Michigan's selling point was for an out of state recruit and how it was more effective than OSU's. The only thing I can think of is the fact that the depth at osu for db's is enough to scare him towards Michigan. If this is the case then I think that's too bad because no recruit as talented as him should have that mindset that they won't scratch the surface of the depth chart or have a hard time doing so as a 1st year unless he was coming from the juco ranks.
Good point. But there could be many reasons why he would lean to Michigan. For all we know, Hoke probably gives out yummy chocolate chip cookies and milk prior to the recruit leaving after their visit so it leaves them with a temporary impression of awesomeness to commit there. However, visit OSU and not receive your cookies and milk and Urban can say, "You will receive a nice ring and crystal ball if you play here." ; )
Don't think the Hokester leaves too many cookies on the table!
i don't think peppers is scared to compete. he said flat-out [in a bleacher report interview] that he thought he was the best player in the country, and intended to prove it. hoke and meyer seem to have different feels about them (having met neither of them, but reading quite a lot about them). both stress the family dynamic really well, which resonates with recruits, but urban seems to me to be more business-like as a recruiter, and has his record that can speak for itself. hoke is obviously passionate about michigan, and that might be an understatement. in his intro press conference he said they would have walked to michigan if they had to, and i believe the guy (would have definitely showed up to AA a little more trim if he had). some recruits like urban's personality more, some like hoke's. peppers happened to like the combination of athletic opportunity, academics, and coaching staff better this go around. i am confident osu will win it's share of battles
Hoke can't even walk from the Golden Corral to Hometown Buffet, let alone from San Diego to AACC!
I think I read that he grew up a UM fan.
yes he did. initially that was reported, then it was said to be kind of overblown...something along the lines of he played as michigan in ncaa football video games. later clarified that he was a legitimate fan growing up, but said he didn't want that to factor into his decision. that could definitely have given michigan a leg up on how much more he liked the visit. i know people here probably could care less about schembechler hall and the big house, but to a lifetime fan, probably a pretty great experience to see them firsthand like that
Last I checked, Peppers is a jr in H.S. Exactly how much winning winning has ichigan done lately? Especially against Ohio State? Maybe he just likes the colors. Or maybe he can appreciate the athletic prowess of a Hoke.
One day I will valiantly become a political prisoner of 11W jail.
i haven't said a single thing about winning in this entire thread....so not sure what you're talking about. i said he had an athletic opportunity at michigan, which he does. think of the tennessee situation. everyone in the country is scratching their heads at the recruiting class they're putting together, but long-time fans of tennessee might look at that as an opportunity to return tennessee to relevance. maybe some of the top targets on michigan's board feel the same way. michigan used to be a nationally elite team year in and year out. due to the RR disaster, decreased talent, and loads of attrition, michigan was left with memories of it's former self, but not much more. they're on the way back up, due in no small part to hoke. nobody said a thing about michigan winning, or winning vs. osu, because it hasn't happened much in the last 10 years.
@nmaxwell: Why on earth did you people 'coerce' lllloyd Carr into retirement? Did you really think Rich Rod was a better option? Sounds to me like you people got too cocky and wrecked a winning program. If it aint broke, don't fix it!
He's also very interested in the academic side of things and, although OSU is a great school, Michigan is considerably higher ranked in most programs. Note that Stanford is his only other finalist.
And LSU...but the only reason academically he would would have them listed is if he wants to be a chemical or petroleum engineer when his playing days are over.
The only hard day was yesterday
Would love Peppers,but being that we already have Webb,and a very good shot at Lattimore,how many Dbs are we gonna take with scholly limitations??Plus we're high on a few safeties,and our LBs.Class is going to fill up sooner than later.not saying you don't take a Peppers if he wants in,but we can only take about 20 this year.Not including d-linemen,QB,TE/HB,and of course the LBing crew this year.Gonna get real tight for a few spots/positions.
It'll be interesting to see where Lattimore plays. Webb is going to be a beast, and seeing as we took 3 corners (assuming Gareon and Cam stick there) last year, I wouldn't be shocked if Webb is the only true corner we take. Then, I think we take Erick Smith and Montae Nicholson as our safeties.
When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.
Like your thinking!! 2 safeties and 2 corners(with Lattimore,assuming they don't switch him to WR)
Good list of talent here, hoping to see a few (or more) of these young men in scarlet and gray.
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
A lot of great players in the defensive backfield! I like Urban's chances to land some good ones there. The 2014 recruiting class is going to be the best one yet!!
I always get a chuckle out of these kids when they say, "academics are another criteria I use to make my decision..." Please. I guess I'm getting cynical in my old age. Some of these kids barely pass the entrance exams.
I'm sure there are some kids that actually look at academics, but the vast majority of top high school players want to go where they can likely play early, and they want to win championships.
For every Craig Krenzel, there are probably 20-30 kids that are General Studies or Recreation majors. Especially at TTUN! I saw it right here on 11W!
"If you're not changing, you're falling behind."
with a lot of kids, i definitely think you're spot on. makes them sound more mature if they talk about stressing academics...peppers, however, has a 4.0 gpa i believe, and has gone from making bad decisions in his life to making good ones. i want to believe him when he talks about academics being important. otherwise, i don't think stanford would be as high on his list.
and as far as football majors go, michigan has plenty of general studies, but osu has a similar number of 'exploratory' majors as well. same difference
Wasn't the number something like 23-12, with UM having 23? That's nearly 100% more
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
michigan does have more (47) between their undeclared/general studies, but not by a lot (osu has 45 between exploratory, which is essentially general studies, undeclared, communications, and sports leisure combined). after that, we get to the 'real' majors, and each team has a small handful of engineers, afro american studies, etc. the original chart hanging up in the woody hayes athletic center conveniently forgot to show the 29 osu athletes either undecided or exploratory. the numbers are very similar.
i would imagine with the time commitments division 1 football has, most schools in the country look like that
Wow urban meyer n coombs will be doing work in these boys. Brown from texas would make this class unreal I like him the same as peppers
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Aint nobody like Peppers. He's like 2014's Jadeveon Clowney as far as the impact he'll have in CFB. Difference is, a defensive end gets his nose in alot more plays than a shutdown CB who's entire half of the field is avoided. Peppers will be a run-stopping monster too though and if OSU gets him and Webb, the opposing QB will have nowhere to throw. Plus throw in the CB beasts from '12 and '13!
Between Urban, Coombs, and Withers we have as good a chance as any with Peppers.
Love the topic, and great insight..but Peppers has already turn down OSU and been to AA several times.....This one may be in the bag already ...I think he's just waiting for the right time.
peppers has been to ann arbor once....same week as his osu trip. i think michigan gets him at the end, but i believe he's going to take a visit to stanford, the last school on his top list, over the summer. if that visit wows him too, i'd expect him to take officials to both, and maybe a few of his other top schools. if that summer visit doesn't wow him, i could see him committing shortly after to michigan. still, i worry about stanford. beautiful campus, top notch academics, recent success on the field, and a great coach in shaw