Super Bowl?? Never heard of it...Is that a football thing or something? On the other hand, I do know a thing or 2 about football players, like - did you know Zeke Elliott likes Chinese food? That's called inside info - I'm sort of a recruiting expert...
Get busy living.
You didn't charge $10 to tell me that EzE likes Chinese food, so I doubt you're a real recruiting expert.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Get well soon Mrs.Naut 6-0 > 3-6.
$10 bucks will get you which restaurant he likes best...so...what's that credit card number?
Just charge it to 11w.
LOL, a local guy here did a start up webpage for Cincinnati Sports, it was a great little site, that just never really had enough money to take off. They had great coverage, a photographer they'd send to games. He had a fund raiser and we got enough money raised to send him to spring training. Anyway, it fell through, he just was making no money on the site and couldn't keep working for free so he took a gig with CBS sports.
When he parted from the site he said he was convinced only Recruiting Websites and Porn made money on the internet. I think Jason can probably share that sentiment as well.
I think the reported Alabama offer to Elliot is worth noting also. Coming in at the eleventh hour to offer to him is either and attempt at landing yet another 4 or 5 start recruit or simply a way to stir the pot.
Thanks for the Super Bowl ads.
Nothing says "You're a Loser" more than owning a motivational poster about being a Winner.
What makes no sense to me is one day there are reports that bama doesn't have room for bell at safety then the next day they offer EZE, allegedly as a DB
It could be Saban was informed that Bell chose Ohio State, and this is his way of trying to get back at Urban.
But that wouldn't help Saban have any more space. If there's no room for Vonn how could he have room for EZE
"Spaces"?! He don't need no stinking "spaces"!
@killernuts, the ESSSEEEECCCC doesn't acknowledge this concept of "room" or "scholarship limit". they oversign, that's how.
Cue Catch 5 in 3, 2, 1....
Brutus, no gripe from me on this - those are valad questions (if there is, in fact a real offer from Bama - this is the first I've heard of it). Bama is stacked at RB, and has 3 quality commits already with this class so I for one would be shocked to see them really pursuing more (unless there are unreported issues with the rehab process of Hart and Fowler who both were lost to ACL injuries last year) especially given Saban's love of a good 5-star DB like Bell.
Make their asses quit! - Nick Saban
Not all. I have heard reports that Fla doesn't.
Because he's vindictive?
I thought there was also a rumor that he wanted to move Bell to CB. I could be wrong.
Also, just because, this is pretty funny too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QPB9NBUG2g
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I have no problem with raising ticket prices if it leads to, you know, keeping good coaches. I am afraid the school will justify it in the name of higher education, but lets be honest, we just want them to hire better assistant coaches (in general terms, I have no problem with our current crop of assistants). And hopefully someday we can use it to pay players too.
I am not kidding.
High and tight boo boo
I have a problem with it. They make me buy Florida A&M at full price and then charge me extra for UM. I'm all for supporting the program and paying assistants but there is a supply curve and a demand curve and where they meet may not be at 105,000 people very much longer. I'm proud of the shoe being full 20 minutes before the games when PSU isn't full by the end of the 1st but that may not always be the case.
We're not poor but there will be a point where buying a season worth of tickets in order for me to drive 350 miles 2x per year will be too much. At some point I would rather just pick the 2 games I want to go to and pay $250 per ticket.
If they're going to charge extra for the big games (which I understand - it's a little ridiculous to have everyone be able to immediately turn around and sell them for twice face value), they need to drop the price for the early games no one cares about. Or schedule fewer games no one cares about.
You didn't mention that guy from that team in South Bend. I love you for that.
What better way to get a Buckeye's day off to a great start, than to tell a little story of a Wolverine getting called out?
Eh. C.Webb is the only player from M*chigan that I actually like. Unlike Shaq, he actually fits in with the TNT crew.
These will never get old.
They seriously need to bring back the Budweiser frogs. They've been absent long enough. :/
If the NFL cares about player safety, why is an 18 game schedule proposal still on the table?
The NFL cares about profit. the NFLPA kind of cares about player safety...
What do you think the NCAA cares about?
Help is on the way.
Profit...what do you think OSU cares about...making MONEY. This particular discussion however, is in regards to the NFL
Well, yeah. But publicly they're all about player safety, changing the rules to lessen injuries, etc. So still talking about an 18 game schedule is a dumb PR move. "Let's make the game a little safer for the player, but subject them to 2 more games of hits."
Does anyone actually believe the NFL cares about anything besides turning a profit, and not being sued?
"The NFL" is an organization, not a person with feelings and/or a singular moral outlook. As such, the NFL would not "care" about anything, just as the NFLPA - another organization - would not care about player safety, either.
You're right, though, a business organization is concerned with profit; however, an organization's profit margins might be hindered if increasing numbers of the public/consumers perceive that organization to be "greedy, uncaring," etc.
Individual owners probably care about player safety - to a greater or lesser extent - even if their feelings/concerns are primarily motivated by desire for profit, concerns about legal liabilities, public image, and/or wanting to protect their teams' legacies.
Now, you're probably absolutely right that the NFLPA organization - which represents all the individual players (with individual feelings and moral views, etc.) - places a higher priority on player safety than does the ownership organization, which represents individual owners (with their own individual feelings and moral views).
Interestingly enough, though, the NFLPA seems to "care" less about (i.e., place lower priority on) the welbeings of past players from the 1960s, 70s, 80s, maybe because doing so would cut into their "profits."
And I heard a guy on the radio the other day pose an interesting question: What if the NFL (owners) announced, in response to the Seau family's lawsuit against the NFL, that they were going completely close-up shop (no practices or games, etc.) until such time as they could ensure that the game is safe. This radio pundit suggested that the fans would viciously turn on the Seau family, with the implication being that the fans place much higher priority on getting the entertainment products they desperately demand (i.e., a non-monetary form of "profit") than on player safety.
Sorry to be a semantic jackass with this, but I don't see it as helpful to demonize owners compared to players or the fans. We're all in it together, so to speak, with enough blame to go around. By all means, we might be more critical of how the NFL owners are responding to safety concerns versus how the NFLPA is responding, but let's not assume that individual players are caring and owners are uncaring and so forth.
An organization doesn't have feelings, but it can be concerned with getting sued, and that's where all this is going. Lawsuits(especially frivolous ones, like the ambulance chasers and the woman that spilled coffee on her crotch, and burned her genitalia) are changing American society for the worse, like it or not. Just my opinion.
I guess we need protection from ourselves and our stupidity(as Americans).
"If you're not changing, you're falling behind."
Shouldn't the NFL care about getting sued? Isn't making the NFL liable for the harm it causes the way to make it care about safety? Lawsuits are one way of making an entity that cares only about profits act as though it cares about other things, like the harm it causes to others through its activities.
There are frivolous lawsuits out there, sure, but it's not entirely clear that this is one of them. There is, obviously, an argument that all this harm isn't the NFL's fault, it's part of the "culture" of the NFL and football, but then the harm is really caused by the people who are paying to watch all this violence (namely, us, unfortunately), and one way to fix that is... make us pay to take care of the people who get harmed in providing us entertainment (through higher ticket prices, caused by higher costs to the league from player lawsuits).
WARNING: Kate Upton is a Michigan fan! Ogle at your own risk. (If you care)
“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.” - Woody
I can forgive her ignorance.
I thought Kate Upton was from South Carolina? What are your sources?
“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers
Ugh, what a whore.
That was a little harsh...
Like I said, I can forgive her ignorance. She's had to witness her beloved school get pounded by tOSU since she was 8. I need to comfort her.
This is who I had in mind
She's probably a ND fan. lol
I personally believe that US Americans... might be able to ignore your accidental misunderstanding; that is, if we all had maps.
(directed at IBall)
Buckeye in the desert of Washington state.
At least Melanie Iglesias's version of the Cat Daddy was better than Kate Upton's IMHO.
I had no idea what you were talking about when I read that. God bless you google search. ;_;
She was born in Michigan and her uncle is congressman Fred Upton
I think Elika is better looking than her. ;)
Suck up. :/
And who, Melanie or Kate?
Are you letting your Buckeye bias cloud your judgement?
Not only is Elika better looking, I'd bet that she could do a meaner Cat Daddy. While eating a steak & bacon sandwich. It ain't sucking up when it's true!
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."-Groucho Marx
Goals: Beat Michigan. Win the B1G East. Beat Michigan. Win the B1G CG. Beat Michigan. Win a Natty. Beat Michigan.
Suck ups everywhere! And a steak & bacon sandwich? Gross. :/
I think Elika is gorgeous and all, but no one is topping that Melanie Iglesias/Lisa Ramos "Cat Daddy". That was frakin awesome.
I had no idea what a Cat Daddy was before today. Sounds like jive talk from the 70s.
I assume the dance is related to the first definition:
A dude over fifty five who can still get it
Lionel Richie is one cat daddy you had better not leave your lady alone with
Aesculus excellentium cum MCMLXV.
Sounds about right.
Has it been 100% confirmed that Withers was the last person to give a final pitch to Bell? I thought Alex or Derek posted something yesterday that said Withers visited Bell in the morning and then went to see his father at work?
If it's true then that's huge. Having the last word in this situation can be a big advantage
Accoring to this, Bama staff met with him after Withers. Scroll to the end of the article. At this point, as long as Withers got in there after UT staff since it seems to be between UT and tOSU.
Ohio State co-defensive coordinator Everett Withers was at Ridgeland on Thursday morning and left campus to meet with Bell’s father, Vincent, at his job. Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart and new defensive backs coach Greg Brown were on campus Thursday afternoon to meet with Bell.
See I read that as well, and that's where I'm confused. The article says that Butch Jones and UT met with Bell in the evening. So what was the source saying Withers met with him Thursday evening? Kind of disappointed in the 11 warriors staff member who posted that information.
The article never says they met with Bell in the evening. Read it again.
Source that Withers met with Bell last night: Alex Gleitman of Eleven Warriors.
How firm thy friendship... OH-I-O!
Ummm, see the paragraph below darlin. It came directly from your Skull Session article.
"Lastly, five-star safety Von Bell, got a visit from Everett Withers last night. Withers was the last coach able to get a word in with Bell before he shut down his recruitment. Bell will be making his final decision this weekend."
I don't know what article you're referring to, but yours says that Withers was the last coach to speak with Bell. However, a link to another article/piece outside of 11 warriors says that Withers met with Bell in the morning and Butch Jones met with him in the evening.
My point is that 2 different sources are saying that 2 different schools met with Bell in the evening. Who is correct, and who really did get the last word in?
A) Please refrain from callin' me darlin' in that tone.
B) "I don't know what article you're referring to"- I was referring to the same article YOU were referring to. Seeing as how I was responding to your comment, that would make sense, no?
C) Again, the "link to another article/piece outside of 11 Warriors" never says that Butch Jones met with Bell in the evening, as you claim. So, again, please read it again. And, in case I am the one that was missing something in that article, please quote it for me, so I can see where it states that Butch Jones met with Bell last night.
Sorry if that offended you.
OK, so the article said that Butch Jones met with his coach Thursday evening, not Bell specifically.
But you still didn't answer what I wanted to know. Who spoke with Bell last?
That was answered in the Skull Session, but in case it wasn't clear: Assuming Alex is correct, and I have no reason to believe he isn't, Withers met with Bell again last night, making him the last to speak with him before he shut down his recruitment.
I'm not fully aware of all the rules here as they apply to OSU's contact with Bell specifically, but it's not unheard of for a coach to visit a recruit at school, and then later at his home that same day. So what you're reading isn't necessarily contradictory.
Ahh, you said that Withers met with Bell AGAIN last night, which was not mentioned in the Skull Session, only that he met with him last night. So then he met with him twice, once in the morning and again in the evening. Now that makes more sense, something that wasn't originally detailed and clarified.
What's wrong with darlin? He might be from Texas.
She, however, is not.
Priority #1: Beat Michigan
There's nothing wrong with darlin. There's something wrong with someone who wasn't able to comprehend what I was saying calling me that in order to imply that I didn't comprehend what he was saying. He might as well have told me to go make him a sandwich.
Your article says that Withers met with Bell Thursday evening and was able to get in the last word. However, another article (which you linked) said that Withers met with Bell on Thursday morning and then he went to meet with his dad at work. Alabama coaches met with Bell in the afternoon, and Butch Jones met with his coach in the evening.
So what I'm getting at is that your article contradicts what another article is saying. So who is correct??
Give him a chance to defend himself before you assume he's belittling you. Some people just talk that way.
Eh, I talk that way too, in the real world, but I read the "darlin'" comment the same way Elika did... that implied Aw shucks, Honey, you clearly don't understand what the men are talking about.
I'm not saying he intended to sound like a jerk, but it's notoriously difficult to use such colloquial phrases in text without it coming off badly, regardless of intent.
I read it that way initially, but I took a step back because he may not have meant it that way.
I guess i'm defending him because misinterpretations are what cause so many arguments online. The moment she saw "darlin" it seemed like her defenses went up.
As any of us who have ever written a cute/funny comment in an email and lived to regret it can attest, you're very kind for giving the benefit of the doubt, 'cause misinterpretations can and do start online word fights all. the. time.
Which is why it pays to be super careful when you're trying to be clever.
"Ron? I have a name. It's Dorothy. It's not Tootsie or Toots or Sweetie or Honey or Doll."
I knew this was coming.
Tangent: It's crazy to see Jessica Lange in that movie and then see her in American Horror Story on FX. 30 years...
Time is cruel.
So I guess "sweetheart" is out of the question? teasing. :)
Oh right the f*ck on Sarah...Tootsie! Perfect. Wow...
Yeah, you're right, but it can be a pain having to walk on eggshells all the time.
I don't think asking people to not belittle eachother is walking on eggshells. His comment clearly had that intent. If he would have simply stated it the way he has in posts following the initial comment, this wouldn't even be discussed.
I wasn't specifically talking about this situation.
Besides, if he had meant it to be offensive, I don't think he would have apologized to Elika.
in all fairness, judging from your food-porn and love of all things bacon, I bet you can make one HELL of a sandwich
Only speaks in swear_trek gifs
Smoked ham and sharp cheddar cheese with tomato, lettuce, onions, and pickles, smothered in dijon mustard on an onion roll. Please.
I like cookies.
No one holds a gun to your head and makes you or your kid play football. If you dont wanna get hurt, dont play...simple.
I agree completely. Again, it's PC.
There are vicious hits(and fist fights) in hockey as well, and you don't hear the Canadians bitchin' about safety.
And what about the UFC? I'm surprised that isn't getting more scrutiny.
There is a guy on the radio, world renkown, won't mention his name, that has been saying the media was going to try and kill football for over two years now. The dude is almost always right. He said this a couple years ago, and it's now coming to a head. Why the concern, all of a sudden, for player safety? Why do citizens need protection from every effing thing?
"No one holds a gun to your head and makes" you take a job, but employers are still required to protect workers' health and safety.
You guys are living in a super paranoid version of the world about a hundred years ago.
Whoa! There is a big difference between working at Walmart and playing in the NFL. Relatively speaking, NFL players are making a gazillion dollars, so yes, their is more risk. Now I do think they should use technology to make football more safe (better helmets) and tweek the game a bit when needed, but as a poster stated, no one is putting a gun to their head to make all that money. They can go work at Subway if they want (all due respect to Walmart and Subway workers).
Let's put this discussion in perspective though. Soldiers risk dieing for far less money and boxers get concussed sometimes multiple times in a fight. NFL players know what they are signing up for and have for years. That said, I am for better safety as long as the game isn't being completely sacrificed.
It's all about money and these lawsuits right now...
Whenever I see stories of PC run amok it makes me want to start throwing raw meat at a bunch of protestors like in the movie PCU. Those people won't rest until every commercial and every advertisement is stripped down to people wearing gray tee shirts, no make up and no discernable human traits (i.e. boobs).
"I find your lack of kalua disturbing" - Darth Lebowski
Yeah the PC thing has gone way overboard, i mean their is being respectful and all but damn anything you say now days someone under a rock somewhere is gonna be offended by whatever it is you said.
I'm offended that you can't respect people who choose to live their lives under a rock.
Hahahaha cant help it! my grandpappy hated people that lived under a rock, my paps hated them and i too can not respect their decisions!
Matter of fact, I'm offended by BuckeyeFreak4844's plain white avatar! What's the reeeeeal hidden message behind that?
One day I will valiantly become a political prisoner of 11W jail.
I used to have a avatar not sure where it went or how to put another on there lol
This was always one of my favorite Super Bowl commercials...
I'm having issues embedding media or even linking to sites, so this will have to do for now.
"Everything you see on the internet is true." - Abraham Lincoln
I have a question for you Elika(this can also be answered by any of the 11w staff). It's a 2 part thing.
1. Do you follow recruiting closely?
2. Is it a big deal to you when Ohio State gets or loses out on a particular recruit?
1. I suppose "closely" is all relative, but I'd have to say no. I try to keep somewhat up to speed on where they stand nationally, and with Alex's updates, but it's nowhere near the top of my list of interests or priorities, admittedly.
2. No. If they land a big recruit that gets Buckeye fans excited, I take some joy in things like that, but it never really makes or breaks my day.
Not even a small "Yes" with a fist pump when Ohio State got Pryor?
For me getting a recruit I wanted is like Ohio State scoring the first TD of the game. Not life altering, but it is exciting.
I don't meant this in the sameless self-promoting way it'll come across, but since you asked about my thoughts on when OSU got Pryor, not sure if you ever read this:
If you don't promote you, who will?
Nope, never saw it. I think I was taking a break from all things Ohio State in July(not that you care lol).
I get that Frank D was bothering you, but your reaction is the reason I rarely ever go up to talk to women I don't know.
Ahh, September 1st 2007. To be 23 again.
Elika, although I generally agree about Zwick and his career not matching his recruiting hype...he did give us 1 gem:
Would love to see a grey box that says Bell makes 24!
Grey boxes aside: Can we get a ruling on the "grey" spelling in the context of Buckeyes athletics?
In terms of general language usage, grey is more popular outside the U.S. (in other English-speaking countries), whereas gray is popular in the U.S.
Normally, the spellings are interchangeable, but is the Buckeye brand pretty much "scarlet and gray"?
And if "scarlet and grey" is making a comeback, should we blame that on the English-style pub N. High Street, Scarlet & Grey?
According to The Ohio State University style guide, the Americanized spelling "gray" appears to be the correct usage:
Scarlet and Gray
Uppercase when referring to the Buckeyes. Lowercase when referring to the colors.
She always roots for the Scarlet and Gray, even though she lives in Texas now.
She always wears scarlet and gray to the games.
I've often wondered this. I thought "gray" was the color, and "grey" was only used in context of a "greyhound dog" or "Greyhound bus."
I'm sure some English major will correct me if I'm wrong.
According to The Grammarist, the two are simply interchangeable spellings of the same word:
Gray and grey are different spellings of the same word, and both are used throughout the English-speaking world. But gray is more common in American English, while grey is more common in all the other main varieties of English. In the U.K., for instance, grey appears about twenty times for every instance of gray. In the U.S. the ratio is reversed.
You might find this graphic interesting, showing the relative use of the spellings in U.S. publications over time:
So I think we have it then...
Grey box = Evil, Bad News
GRAY box = box of happiness, joy, and undeniable elation
OR!!! or... or.. grey - a movie starring an awesome guy:
I like football
I believe Liam is from Ireland. That explains the "Grey" spelling.
Now I've seen it all....
What ya got for Earle vs. Earl? Pie charts?
Pie charts, no. However...
As you are undoubtedly aware, the name is largely derived from the English title of nobility, Earl. According to the gnomes at Wikipedia:
The title is Anglo-Saxon, akin to the Scandinavian form jarl, and meant "chieftain", particularly a chieftain set to rule a territory in a king's stead. In Scandinavia, it became obsolete in the Middle Ages and was replaced with duke (hertig/hertug). In later medieval Britain, it became the equivalent of the continental count (in England in the earlier period, it was more akin to duke; in Scotland it assimilated the concept of mormaer). However, earlier in Scandinavia jarl could also mean sovereign prince.
In modern Britain, an earl is a member of the peerage, ranking below a marquess and above viscount. There never developed a feminine form of earl; countess is used as the equivalent feminine title.
As with the gray/grey debate, the use of the letter -e appears to be a British preference. According to data from the Social Security Administration, the name Earl was the 994th most-popular name in the U.S. in 2006, down from 147th in 1962. Earle, on the other hand, is apparently so unpopular today that it is not ranked at all, only having shown up in the top 1,000 names recorded in three of the last 50 years: 1962, 1966 and 1968 (makes you wonder how many of those boys were born in Sandusky or Massillon).
Since you like graphs, here's a look at how popularity of the name Earl has trended over time:
I feel like I have learned something today. That's not easy at 48.
Call me weird, but I find this "gray/grey" debate almost as amusing as a...uh...gray box. I guess it looks like "gray" is the spelling in vogue.
I'm looking at your graph, Andy. Around the year 1825 "gray and grey" were in a virtual dead heat. But they both bottomed out right there. Then from that point forward, "gray" starts to pull away from "grey." What is it that could have caused the separation of "gray" from "grey" at that point?
I'm going with global warming.
Yeah. I'm pretty comfortable saying we should go with the way its done in the good ol' US of A and at THE Ohio State University.
If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. ~ Bruce Lee
Matter of preference, in my humblest opinion. I prefer English stylings, personally: theatre, centre, favourite, grey, etc...
I'm with you 100%.
Hodge: I'm schizophrenic on English/Euro stylings.
In the company of Anglophiles and especially affected American Francophiles, I will feign a mild degree of Anglophobia and a comically extreme degree of Francophobia.
When not trying to antagonize such people, I secretly indulge in English Premier League football, look back longingly on Arts & Crafts design, honor English ale, as well as love me some French food of course.
Man, looking at those JJ Watt tweets - dude could seriously choose from any number of women to date/marry. I forget how different a life professional athletes live from the rest of us. Guy is probably beating the women off with a stick. Assume he is single though, haven't researched.
My hair is getting gray enough that when I put on a scarlet shirt I'm automatically in the school colors!
Elika, Sarah & the rest of the staff. I just want to say thank you for all that you do. I first followed OSU recruiting with Robert Smith's recruitment and once took it as seriously as many do on this site. That was long before marriage & the kids. Coming to this site is a short diversion from the stressors of real life and I chuckle when I see people question the staff's sources, or nitpick articles, or openly fret about a recruit's decision. I for one appreciate all of your efforts, your insight, and your love of all things OSU and wanted to say thank you.
I think what makes JJ Watt so likeable is the guy made himself with hard work and determination. Sure, I still have nightmares of that game in Camp Randal back in 2010 where he terrorized the backfield. But, the guy is easy to root for.
Terry Tate Office Linebacker is too low on that list.
The words Terry Tate, Office Linebacker automatically make me laugh. That and Trunk Monkey.