Full Court Press: Chris Livingston Lives Up To Top-5 Billing, Seth Towns Contacted By Ohio State, Shawn Phillips Visits

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Eph97's picture

I'm in shock now when I saw an OSU recruit wearing a WRA jersey. That's my alma mater and we've never had a bigtime recruit as far as I can remember and I graduated in the early 90's.

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Colin Hass-Hill's picture

Ha! Well congrats, because he's the top recruit in the state regardless of class.

Eph97's picture

I had to read up on him once I saw this and learned that his mom is really into academics (She herself enrolled at Neomed to become a pharmacist in her late 30's). Obviously, he could have gone to any basketball prep powerhouse in the country, but he chose WRA. I'm glad he did. Being a WRA alum opens up a lot of opporutnities in the Northeast Ohio area.

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Nate4bucks's picture

I was surprised, too! I’m from NE Ohio and I remember competing at WRA’s Longstreth Relays for track and Field. I used to love that meet. If you’re not familiar with WRA, it’s a very prestigious academy located in the quaint town of Hudson, Oh (between Akron and Cleveland). The school has the feel of a small Ivy league campus, and recruits some of the best students from around the country. I’m sure Eph97 would agree that WRA is more known for its academics than its sports teams. 

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Eph97's picture

WRA's greek revival architecture was modeled after Yale because that's where the founders were from. There was practically zero emphasis on being a sports powerhouse other than in soccer. We had epic battles with Walsh Jesuit back then.

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BuckeyeBen7.7's picture

The OH class of 2021 and 2022 is looking strong. If Holtmann can lock down the border, we’ll be in good shape!

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PhillyNut's picture

Generally having a degree from Harvard regardless of major sets a person up and is a major accomplishment. Just do not get going there to get a degree in sociology. Not knocking sociology as a degree, my daughter has that degree from another university. Just struggle with doing that at Harvard unless it is a road to getting a PhD or it is good for getting into law school.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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Kasino Royale's picture

I get your point but this was paid for by bball so why not?

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sonofsarek's picture

the highlight vid doesn’t show much. He scored 40, but against who?  I’ve seen tougher competition at the OSU rec center. Can he box out? Rebound? Play D? Find the open man?   Not turn the ball over when pressured?  

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CTownBucknut's picture

Well let's see, he's ranked as the #3 player in his entire class.  That means a lot of people who make a living out of scouting and ranking players feels he can play.  And in case you were unaware, ranking players is based on far more than how a kid does against inferior competition in a high school game.  It's how they do against other great players in AAU ball, tournaments, camps, etc.  

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High Street Street Fighter's picture

What became of the big man from Southeastern Ohio (Zach Loveday who transferred to Huntington Prep)? I remember he was one of the first guys Holtman visited after taking the OSU job. 

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Colin Hass-Hill's picture

Signed with Baylor. His game hasn't developed the way some hoped, which led to a slip in his ranking and his recruitment not blowing up the way it at one point seemed it would. OSU went with Zed Key, though it remained involved in Loveday until they ultimately got Key.

buckeyeinWI's picture

I would love to see OHIO STATE land Towns, but....

I'm guessing K. Wesson leaves early, and Andre is graduating...  so that evens things out for 2020-21 season with Sueing, and the two 2020 recruits (Key, Brown) coming on board...

Not sure OSU needs another wing, but Towns looks like a player.

GO BUCKEYES!

15-1 is SWEET!

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B1Gbuckeye's picture

I think Kaleb needs to stay for his own good if he wants a shot at the NBA. He is way too inconsistent. Some games he’ll go 7-11 from the floor like Indiana, and there is no doubt of who the best player on the court is. Then he’ll go 2-9 (first game against Indiana) from the floor and look nonexistent. He needs to be a constant 15 and 10 type of guy to go to the NBA.

I hope this is my rational side speaking and not the fandom side.

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CTownBucknut's picture

I get what you're saying, but I don't know that his draft stock will change much playing a 4th year.  Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if he stayed, but I think this is just what he is.  A very solid player, likely not an impact NBA player in my amateur opinion.  As for your other point, I think he's been fairly consistent this year.  Double digits scoring every game but 2, 5 rebounds plus every game this year, at least 1 block almost every game, etc.  A few down games, but that's all players.  

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thebraxtonmillershow's picture

Not trying to be negative but realistic. I like Kaleb as a player but there's no chance he makes an NBA roster. Doesn't have the numbers or the measurables. He can play overseas if he wants. 

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CTownBucknut's picture

I don’t really see him as an NBA player either, to be honest. My main point is that I doubt a 4th year will change that, I think he kind of is what he is, a very solid college player. My guess is that he tests the waters after this season regardless, and I sure hope I’m wrong about his nba future 

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Buckeye24's picture

Kaleb can probably make a living overseas but in the NBA? Doesnt get off the floor and wont be able to guard in the league...

Artthedart

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ibuck's picture

Keeping Ohio hoops prospects for Ohio State is a quaint concept. Expecting Ohio kids to stay in-state—and attend OSU—is a scarlet-colored dream, whether suggested by 11W staff or commenters, for basketball, football, or any other sport.

Ohio State can build a quality program that develops kids in lots of ways (academically, socially, athletically, etc) and provides good life opportunities. And coaches can sell those opportunities, a family atmosphere, and personable, caring mentoring. OSU has only a few scholarships per year to offer, and other Buckeye players want minutes too. So it's ludicrous to fault coaches if Ohio kids choose to attend Harvard, Stanford, Duke, Notre Dame, or another Ohio university. It's not our dream they seek to fulfill, but their own.

As fans, we can hope they choose the Buckeyes, but it's unreasonable to expect that. What we can do is support those individuals that do choose OSU. A lot of folks on these forums do so, but there are knuckleheads here too, who, as Mark Titus says, imply they are dumbasses when they don't live up to our expectations. You don't have to be a genius to know which are the real dumbasses.

Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !

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Colin Hass-Hill's picture

It's actually interesting to look at where Holtmann has gone to fill his classes at Ohio State, because he has had to go elsewhere since the state's talent has been down.

  • Eugene Brown: Georgia
  • Zed Key: New York
  • Alonzo Gaffney: Ohio
  • DJ Carton: Iowa
  • E.J. Liddell: Illinois
  • Alonzo Gaffney: Ohio
  • Ibrahima Diallo: Senegal/California
  • Justice Sueing: Hawaii/California
  • Luther Muhammad: New Jersey
  • Duane Washington: Michigan/California
  • Jaedon LeDee: Texas
  • Justice Ahrens: Ohio
  • Kyle Young: Ohio
  • Musa Jallow: Indiana

Etzler/Meechie in 2021 will be Holtmann's first class with multiple Ohioans. 

Buxki84's picture

You have Gaffney listed twice.

I'd rather be a minute early than an hour early, 'cause I like to procrastinate.

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Colin Hass-Hill's picture

Oops. That's what I get for doing that on my phone. 

Kasino Royale's picture

If tOSU can get ONE of these Ohio 1 and Done kids to sign it would open up the program to new heights. 

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BuckeyeBen7.7's picture

Exactly. We have a pretty good group right now but if we could add a bona fide star like Russel, Sullinger or Ode , it would get special quick. Here’s to hoping that’s Carton next year, and Liddell or Gaffeny the next year.

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Buck61's picture

i see one common factor in all these kids, underweight for big ten basketball, 6'5' and 170lbs. i know they are mid teens in age but he should be in the 195lb range with that frame right now. no way were he even be ready for the G league.

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ibuck's picture

Remember: this is basketball, not football, wrestling or rugby—despite what refs often allow in the B1G. 

Agility, quickness, speed, etc are needed to get past opponents to score or snatch the ball. While strength is important, weight is not as important. See Reggie Miller or Steph Curry.

Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !

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mtrotb's picture

Colin, why you say Towns has two years left if this is his 4th year at Harvard??

mtrotb

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Colin Hass-Hill's picture

Good question. I wrote that because it's widely been reported that he has two years of eligibility remaining. I don't have that confirmed myself, but from my understanding it's due to him missing the entirety of the 2018-19 and 2019-20 seasons due to injury. 

I'll make sure to get confirmation on that.